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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: NORTY40 on February 04, 2015, 10:46 PM
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I received this email from Justin this morning , seems to me as though he has been shat on tbh :-\
Just thought i would post it up as Justin has always been a top guy to deal with from my experiences , he has even refunded overpayments on shipping charges on more than one occasion without being asked . He also supported MK last year with a load of stuff sent over for the raffle etc . Might be nice if a few of us could back him up .
Yeah i know we can get them from Alans in the UK but im pretty sure if Alans hadn't got them we would be relying on Justin to get them in .
Dear valued Hambassador:
(NOTE: This is a bit long, but I want you to hear the WHOLE story and make an informed decision. Thank you in advance for taking the time!)
We have been selling A'ME products for over 7 years and have the LARGEST selection (in stock, ready to ship) of A'ME products in the world (over 90 different products). We are also the ONLY company in the U.S. that exclusively serves the old school BMX community - we don't just have some old school/retro products as an afterthought: Old school BMX is our sole business with over 1700 different products in stock, most of which are custom made for us.
However, we have some competitors who are unable to match our selection or our service. They have spent the last few years contacting John Svenson, the owner of A'ME and telling them how we are unfair competition. They tell Svenson that we are uncutting the price of A'ME grips. They tell Svenson that because we operate from a residential address we don't have the same overhead as they do. These are lies. Our price for A'ME's grips is higher than any of the companies complaining about us (mainly because it just costs more for us to provide such a large selection). Also, while the two buildings we operate Porkchop BMX out of are zoned residential (they are two houses next to my personal residence), Porkchop BMX pays a mortgage on them equal to or more than most bike shops pay for the space they rent. We have plenty of overhead including a $1 million of liability insurance, inventory insurance, pay a ridiculous amount of corporate income tax, unemployment tax, worker's comp insurance, property tax, local business license (which allows us to operate out of the residential property legally), 3 employees, etc. (And this is all before we buy any products or materials to package your orders with). If their overhead is more than ours, it is due to their own poor business decisions - not because we are getting any sort of breaks.
Now, A'ME has re-released the Unitron grips. And will not sell them to Porkchop BMX. They point to the complaints mentioned above. When pressed on whether he has looked at the Porkchop BMX website to verify these claims of undercutting prices, the owner of A'ME responded that he doesn't have time to keep up with all of his dealers prices - all he knows is he gets complaints about us. (Complaints not from those who buy A'ME grips... complaints from our COMPETITORS who want nothing more than for you to be forced to buy from them).
After 7 years of fighting to keep A'ME grips stocked at Porkchop BMX (Svenson has threatened numerous times to cut us off but has never told us why until today), I've had enough. If A'ME will not allow us to stock the Unitron grips, a grip that is only of interest to our customer base, the old school BMX community, we are dumping A'ME as a brand that we carry. They obviously do not value our business and I do not think it right for them to continue to be rewarded for their arbitrary decisions that do nothing but hurt you, the end user of the grips.
If you agree that Porkchop BMX should have these grips and want to buy them from us, please let your voice be heard by e-mailing John Svenson at sales@griposusa.com or give him a call at 702-835-0681 (Nevada, USA number). The only thing that might change his mind is hearing from the end users of his products and realizing that Porkchop BMX is where YOU want to buy A'ME products.
Thank you for your continued support - we are working hard to have the largest (and most interesting) selection of old school BMX parts in the world and we can't do it without you!
Justin Earl
President of www.PorkchopBMX.com
P.S. Send me a screenshot of the response you receive from A'ME and your address and I'll send you out of some free stickers!
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Justin is a good lad, I sent a polite email to a'me already and would urge anyone else to do the same.
Sounds like he's been on the receiving end of a bunch of crybaby shit stirrers
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Justin is a good lad, I sent a polite email to a'me already and would urge anyone else to do the same.
Sounds like he's been on the receiving end of a bunch of crybaby shit stirrers
Nice one Griffster :daumenhoch: It does seem to me as though he hasn't been treated in the right manner :(
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SENT hello -
I have heard of your issue with porkchopbmx.
I hear a small number of people in the bmx community that have an unfounded negative view of porkchop site . these people are counterproductive / negative and offer the community nothing. they are mostly private bike builders who have something against reproduction parts or are associated with competitors.
it is not uncommon for success to cause jealousy.
If you are going to listen to a voice you should listen to justin at porkchop bmx because he is not only a benefit to the community but very professional and personable. it is because of this that he has such a good reputation with his customers.
p.s. I am in the uk and porkchopbmx is the first place i look for A ME grips.
Putting a negative spin on the A ME company name could disillusion established supporters.
Regards
Rob
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I just fired one over too. I use them quite a bit for the small spare stuff that gets lost. I have actually had about 3 separate orders from them over the last few months.
Just ordered some extra thick washers for the hubs and some oldschool wheel nuts, stuff like that.
Not been able to bang a set of those to these little orders people try to build up a bit, could be not such a great move for ame.
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Maybe if the whingers gave customers as good service they wouldn't need to do the shit on him.
As said PC is good for stuff not always available here, like the mini grips.
Worth an email I reckon.
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I don't know the full the story behind it all but i have a feeling some of the complaints have come from people who won't even consider shipping to the UK ::) ....... something which Justin has never had any issues with .
Thanks for your support lads :4_17_5:
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I wonder if A'ME will reply..?
Might take them a while to answer everyone :teef:
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No doubt an attack on Justin from a few sad individuals with their own agendas. I've never had anything other than excellent service from Justin. International orders have arrived quickly, and I have also been given a partial refund when shipping costs have been overestimated.
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Can't believe this one guys, as we all know Justin is a top guy, and as Joff says he's done the same from me and I have also spent a few quid with him over the years and also been one of the Robinson fanatics pushing for a couloir range of early pad sets which he invested in and now there available.
Top man, I will be emailing A'me later too.
Dazzle
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Mr angry from the UK email sent :yahoo_silent:
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Email sent. :daumenhoch:
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posted something up on the FB group too (since I know Joffy's not going on there any time soon :teef:)
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got to be more to this than meets the eye.
My view is let them sort it out amongst themselves.
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posted something up on the FB group too (since I know Joffy's not going on there any time soon ever :teef:)
I've edited that for you John. :daumenhoch:
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posted something up on the FB group too (since I know Joffy's not going on there any time soon :teef:)
No sh1t man !! :LolLolLolLol: Only just got 'What's app' and im struggling with that !! :D
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posted something up on the FB group too (since I know Joffy's not going on there any time soon ever :teef:)
I've edited that for you John. :daumenhoch:
:LolLolLolLol: ;) :daumenhoch:
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got to be more to this than meets the eye.
My view is let them sort it out amongst themselves.
There possibly is John , always two sides to every story . I guess it's upto the RADsters to decide whether they want to send an email or not . I posted it up because Justin has always been a top lad with me and he didn't need asking twice when it came to supporting MK14 etc. From what i have read on various sites it does seem as though he has been stitched up . I also know from running my own business that this does happen from time to time no matter how good you feel your customer service or supplier relationship is ::)
If any RADsters don't feel comfortable sending an email ..... don't ;)
Justin has emailed me this morning and he thanks you all for the support :4_17_5:
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posted something up on the FB group too (since I know Joffy's not going on there any time soon :teef:)
No sh1t man !! :LolLolLolLol: Only just got 'What's app' and im struggling with that !! :D
I couldn't get on with whatsapp so binned it off
Will probably do the same with Twitter too as I'm struggling to see the point of that either
Might give that ello a go but so far don't know anyone else on it
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I sent this but got no reply.
Dear John
Disappointing to read that you won't sell the new release of Unitron grips to Porkchop BMX. I have been an avid fan of A'ME grips since starting to ride BMX bikes in 1979 and switched from Oakley to A'ME in 1980 or thereabouts. I still have two pairs of og, bought in the 80s, A'ME grips; one pair new in their box and one used pair from one of my bikes.
Today I still ride BMX both my bikes, a race bike and a park bike run your grips plus I collect vintage BMX bikes, 10 of them and 6 run A'ME grips all of which were bought from Porkchop. These are guys who are not the cheapest but they offer unrivalled knowledge, customer service and a fantastic range of parts to the BMX Community. They have been fantastic ambassadors for A'ME products and it's disappointing that they are being treated this way and excluded from selling the Unitrons, a grip that they know their customers will and do want to buy from them.
Justin says that you won't check out their website to see that they are a real business and to see what they put into the sport and community but you will listen to folks, heck you must listen to folks if you are refusing to supply Porkchop because some of your other customers don't like competition and complain to you about it. If those customers of yours treated their customers better, contributed to the community and valued their customers as much as Justin and his team do they wouldn't need to complain about competition.
Hopefully you will do the right thing; get A'ME products sold through retailers that value the brand and who are true ambassadors for your products, retailers like Porkchop.
Yours sincerely
Marty Coughlin
Perth, Australia
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got to be more to this than meets the eye.
My view is let them sort it out amongst themselves.
Whilst I agree with the first part as PC has certainly rubbed a hell of a lot of people up the wrong way.
However I reckon it's in our own best interest to help him out.
Based on when Alan doesn't have the stock you can get it from PC, other US retailers either won't ship to you like BMXGURU, charge exorbitant shipping or people buy direct from AME and then wack them on the bay for you to pay through the nose.
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I think Justin and PC are another invaluable spoke to our hobby called old school BMX. I've bought many bits and bobs and repop parts over the years .... ( Think both types of viscount seats and Kenda freestyle tyres especially in my case ) and always had an A1 service.
It seems illogical for A'me to avoid them?
I'll send an email off now! :daumenhoch:
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I emailed AME saying I was disappointed that Porkchop do not stock the Unitron, if I get a response I'll post it up.
I do try and use local specialists but have ordered the odd pair of Grips along with other small parts from Porkchop.
Good Luck Porkchop :)
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Politely but seriously sent with a heart felt and logical plea for reason and sense to prevail. :daumenhoch:
Good luck Justin and good luck PCBMX!
Thanks for always keeping it :radbmxsmilie:
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I just got this reply... From A'me
We now have an exclusive distributor in the UK for all A'ME Grips
including the Unitrons.
If you would like we'd be happy to supply you with their contact information.
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:00 AM, 'antony frascina' via Sales
<sales@griposusa.com> wrote:
Dear Sir or Madam,
I have just heard the sad news from Justin at Porkchop BMX that he will not
be able to stock the latest re-issue of A'me Unitron grips. I am actually
quite shocked to hear this as his website has long been the number one stop
for us enthusiasts who have been restoring and bringing back to life old
school bmx bikes for several years now. Justin and his shop have always been
invaluable to many of us here in the UK who are part of an ever expanding
and thriving scene. He has always stocked A'me grips and has always been my
first port of call when I have required to purchase some for my latest build
or to replace worn out ones on bikes that I ride. Obviously I was very
excited to hear about the re-release of the Unitrons and naturally assumed
Porkchop would be my stockist of choice due to my history with the shop and
his competitive pricing and willingness to ship to the UK.
I hope that you can see sense and listen to the many loyal Porkchop customers
who are hopefully getting in touch with you over this issue.
Kind regards, Antony Frascina,
A'me and Porkchop fan and supporter.
Liverpool, England, UK
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John A. Svenson
Gripos LLC
6155 Sage Brush Street
Las Vegas, Nevada 89120
Tel. (702) 835-0681
Direct (702) 690-2993
Fax (702) 924-2582
**PLEASE NOTE NEW ADDRESS & DIRECT TELEPHONE NUMBER
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:uglystupid2: :2gunsfiring_v1: :tickedoff:
Guess they don't want to know?
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I just got this reply... From A'me
We now have an exclusive distributor in the UK for all A'ME Grips
including the Unitrons.
If you would like we'd be happy to supply you with their contact information.
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:00 AM, 'antony frascina' via Sales
<sales@griposusa.com> wrote:
Dear Sir or Madam,
I have just heard the sad news from Justin at Porkchop BMX that he will not
be able to stock the latest re-issue of A'me Unitron grips. I am actually
quite shocked to hear this as his website has long been the number one stop
for us enthusiasts who have been restoring and bringing back to life old
school bmx bikes for several years now. Justin and his shop have always been
invaluable to many of us here in the UK who are part of an ever expanding
and thriving scene. He has always stocked A'me grips and has always been my
first port of call when I have required to purchase some for my latest build
or to replace worn out ones on bikes that I ride. Obviously I was very
excited to hear about the re-release of the Unitrons and naturally assumed
Porkchop would be my stockist of choice due to my history with the shop and
his competitive pricing and willingness to ship to the UK.
I hope that you can see sense and listen to the many loyal Porkchop customers
who are hopefully getting in touch with you over this issue.
Kind regards, Antony Frascina,
A'me and Porkchop fan and supporter.
Liverpool, England, UK
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John A. Svenson
Gripos LLC
6155 Sage Brush Street
Las Vegas, Nevada 89120
Tel. (702) 835-0681
Direct (702) 690-2993
Fax (702) 924-2582
**PLEASE NOTE NEW ADDRESS & DIRECT TELEPHONE NUMBER
what a lovely, personal response that was
glad I've got a pair of Sharps coming in the post!
let's see if they replied to the mail I sent last night... hang on
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Yeah so understanding eh Griff!
A'me they are all heart and soul aren't they! :crazy2: :Aresehole:
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no reply for me yet, but I imagine they have a few to get through
here's the email I sent
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The more we send the more likely they are to change their minds ... People power and all that!
C'mon boys keep at it! :4_17_5:
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I sent this 3 hours ago:
Hi John,
I am contacting you with in regards to the news that A'me are currently in discussions with Justin Earl of Porkchop BMX, and that you may no longer be supplying products to their business.
Can I firstly express my sadness in hearing this news, as I regularly buy products from Justin - including A'me products, and as a very keen Old School BMX collector will find it an effort to find an alternative supplier, that can equal the quality of the parts and their delivery service that Porkchop provide.
I have been building bike for 7 years, and have been buying off Justin for 6 of those, and in that time, have always been very impressed with the conscientious approach that he, and his Team provide whilst running their business.
The communication that Justin and Team provide to us collectors over here in the U.K. is second to none, and due to the fantastic reputation that Porkchop BMX have, their business has spread widely across the Old School BMX community, and they are now regarded as serious players in the BMX building business. This is why people, such as myself, regularly return to them, time after time, to source our parts.
I hope that any difference of opinion between yourselves can be easily resolved, and you can both help each other in keeping the Old School BMX scene well, and truly alive.
P.S. Is there any chance that A'me will be reissuing the Dual grip at all? They are an awesome looking grip, that I would happily put on my bikes.
Kind regards
Dan.
No reply, as yet. :yahoo_silent:
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I have been building bike for 7 years,
The Harper Lee of the BMX world.
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I have been building bike for 7 years,
The Harper Lee of the BMX world.
Don't even know who that is mate, so over my head. ???
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She wrote To Kill A Mockingbird in 1960 and has just announced the follow up.
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You probably wouldn't ;-)
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She wrote To Kill A Mockingbird in 1960 and has just announced the follow up.
I still don't get it. :-[
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Because you said you'd 'been building bike for 7 years'. i.e., 1 bike - quite slow.
I attempted a little joke funny, that wasn't much of a joke or that funny.
Still, A'me grips are nice.
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Because you said you'd 'been building bike for 7 years'. i.e., 1 bike - quite slow.
I attempted a little joke funny, that wasn't much of a joke or that funny.
Still, A'me grips are nice.
Oh right, ok. :daumenhoch:
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I've just got an almost identical reply. :(
Quote:
"We have an exclusive disributor in the UK for all A'ME Grips. If you'd
like their contact information please let us know"
factory pilot did you reply? :-\ Does not answer the point we are all trying to make!
I just got this reply... From A'me
We now have an exclusive distributor in the UK for all A'ME Grips
including the Unitrons.
If you would like we'd be happy to supply you with their contact information.
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:00 AM, 'antony frascina' via Sales
<sales@griposusa.com> wrote:
Dear Sir or Madam,
I have just heard the sad news from Justin at Porkchop BMX that he will not
be able to stock the latest re-issue of A'me Unitron grips. I am actually
quite shocked to hear this as his website has long been the number one stop
for us enthusiasts who have been restoring and bringing back to life old
school bmx bikes for several years now. Justin and his shop have always been
invaluable to many of us here in the UK who are part of an ever expanding
and thriving scene. He has always stocked A'me grips and has always been my
first port of call when I have required to purchase some for my latest build
or to replace worn out ones on bikes that I ride. Obviously I was very
excited to hear about the re-release of the Unitrons and naturally assumed
Porkchop would be my stockist of choice due to my history with the shop and
his competitive pricing and willingness to ship to the UK.
I hope that you can see sense and listen to the many loyal Porkchop customers
who are hopefully getting in touch with you over this issue.
Kind regards, Antony Frascina,
A'me and Porkchop fan and supporter.
Liverpool, England, UK
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John A. Svenson
Gripos LLC
6155 Sage Brush Street
Las Vegas, Nevada 89120
Tel. (702) 835-0681
Direct (702) 690-2993
Fax (702) 924-2582
**PLEASE NOTE NEW ADDRESS & DIRECT TELEPHONE NUMBER
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Not replied yet but totally agreed .. Missed the point .. Will reply and reiterate our points ! :daumenhoch:
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I replied with this but have heard nothing as yet :pilky:
Thanks for your swift reply. I am aware of UK stockists ( alans bmx to name but one ). I was writing to support Porkchop BMX and its importance in the old school bmx scene and how A'me would be missing out on loyal customers if they were to snub Justin on the distribution of your iconic grips now and in the future. I feel that Porkchop has been unfairly treated in this instance and really hope that you can reverse your current decision.
Kind regards again, AntonySent from my iPhone
On 5 Feb 2015, at 16:07, John Svenson <jsvenson@griposusa.com> wrote:
We now have an exclusive distributor in the UK for all A'ME Grips
including the Unitrons.
If you would like we'd be happy to supply you with their contact information
--
John A. Svenson
Gripos LLC
6155 Sage Brush Street
Las Vegas, Nevada 89120
Tel. (702) 835-0681
Direct (702) 690-2993
Fax (702) 924-2582
**PLEASE NOTE NEW ADDRESS & DIRECT TELEPHONE NUMBER
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I've had a message of Justin tonight via FB (soz Joff).
Justin has been told by A'me that they will continue to supply him with products, providing that he places a $10,000 minimum order with them - something none of his competitors have to do. >:(
So looks like they're discriminating him now.
Poor show from A'me. "nono"
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Fookers still haven't even responded to the email I sent last night ::)
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Fookers still haven't even responded to the email I sent last night ::)
I haven't had a response to mine either John , mine went last night aswell :-\
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Fookers still haven't even responded to the email I sent last night ::)
I haven't had a response to mine either John , mine went last night aswell :-\
At least we're in good company! :-*
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I've had a message of Justin tonight via FB (soz Joff).
Justin has been told by A'me that they will continue to supply him with products, providing that he places a $10,000 minimum order with them - something none of his competitors have to do. >:(
So looks like they're discriminating him now.
Poor show from A'me. "nono"
Is that for US exclusive distribution? There could be reasons for that level of investment.
Also, has any one asked alan if he moaned too, as he has UK ' exclusive' distribution?
I'd moan if I was selling stuff in the UK and my customers could buy imported product cheaper.
Rightly so as well.
Also, By his own admission, this isn't the first time they have had a fall out.
None of us know the true ins and outs here and there could be really good reasoning for the decisions being made.
Just a thought....
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I've had a message of Justin tonight via FB (soz Joff).
Justin has been told by A'me that they will continue to supply him with products, providing that he places a $10,000 minimum order with them - something none of his competitors have to do. >:(
So looks like they're discriminating him now.
Poor show from A'me. "nono"
Is that for US exclusive distribution? There could be reasons for that level of investment.
Also, has any one asked alan if he moaned too, as he has UK ' exclusive' distribution?
I'd moan if I was selling stuff in the UK and my customers could buy imported product cheaper.
Rightly so as well.
Also, By his own admission, this isn't the first time they have had a fall out.
None of us know the true ins and outs here and there could be really good reasoning for the decisions being made.
Just a thought....
Very true and some valid points TJ, but this is a global economy nowadays and when buying stuff online like many people I don't really want to have to shop all over the place; I guess I am lazy!
I also think that
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I only buy Jives :popcorn:
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Justin is a top bloke. hope a'me change their attitude on this one.
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I only buy Jives :popcorn:
well aren't you just missing out on all the fun then
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I've sent a very polite email asking why A'ME is discriminating against Porkchop, and the old school community.
I do not expect a reply, but let's see...
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I've had a message of Justin tonight via FB (soz Joff).
Justin has been told by A'me that they will continue to supply him with products, providing that he places a $10,000 minimum order with them - something none of his competitors have to do. >:(
So looks like they're discriminating him now.
Poor show from A'me. "nono"
Is that for US exclusive distribution? There could be reasons for that level of investment.
Also, has any one asked alan if he moaned too, as he has UK ' exclusive' distribution?
I'd moan if I was selling stuff in the UK and my customers could buy imported product cheaper.
Rightly so as well.
Also, By his own admission, this isn't the first time they have had a fall out.
None of us know the true ins and outs here and there could be really good reasoning for the decisions being made.
Just a thought....
Very true and some valid points TJ, but this is a global economy nowadays and when buying stuff online like many people I don't really want to have to shop all over the place; I guess I am lazy!
I also think that
hear that.
thing is, the word exclusive is being banded about, by ame, and pointing customers towards the entities that hold that status.
thats a commercial decision usually around financial commitments and how easy people are to deal with.
put simply, if someone is prepared too, and they are not, then the person who is, is going to get the prefered position.
I cant tell someone how much they can sell my product for, but i can control the supply particularly if I dont have the monopoly on my market.
shit is what shit is.
you want a result here? then get everyone to boycott the grips....
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good points there JT. - So if i get it right A'me want to stop Porkchop from undercutting prices that make life hard for UK distributors. -- Porkchop could promise to sell for the same price as that main competitor in the UK Hm..
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I've had a message of Justin tonight via FB (soz Joff).
Justin has been told by A'me that they will continue to supply him with products, providing that he places a $10,000 minimum order with them - something none of his competitors have to do. >:(
So looks like they're discriminating him now.
Poor show from A'me. "nono"
Is that for US exclusive distribution? There could be reasons for that level of investment.
Also, has any one asked alan if he moaned too, as he has UK ' exclusive' distribution?
I'd moan if I was selling stuff in the UK and my customers could buy imported product cheaper.
Rightly so as well.
Also, By his own admission, this isn't the first time they have had a fall out.
None of us know the true ins and outs here and there could be really good reasoning for the decisions being made.
Just a thought....
Very true and some valid points TJ, but this is a global economy nowadays and when buying stuff online like many people I don't really want to have to shop all over the place; I guess I am lazy!
I also think that
hear that.
thing is, the word exclusive is being banded about, by ame, and pointing customers towards the entities that hold that status.
thats a commercial decision usually around financial commitments and how easy people are to deal with.
put simply, if someone is prepared too, and they are not, then the person who is, is going to get the prefered position.
I cant tell someone how much they can sell my product for, but i can control the supply particularly if I dont have the monopoly on my market.
shit is what shit is.
you want a result here? then get everyone to boycott the grips....
Good points again JT :daumenhoch:
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good points there JT. - So if i get it right A'me want to stop Porkchop from undercutting prices that make life hard for UK distributors. -- Porkchop could promise to sell for the same price as that main competitor in the UK Hm..
Pork chop can't be forced to change their pricing strategy, but would appear to have been resistant to suggestions it should charge more.
This is the only control mechanism left, particularly if you are under pressure from other 'exclusive' resellers.
I would have put my money where my mouth was and bought the lot. They are gonna sell whichever way
Other option is to get limited runs made just for you... Again, requires financial commtment. Again, this would appear to be what Ame have asked for....
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intricate! ...looks like not much can be done but (continue to) write mails of praise to Ame..
at least we now see that its not necessarily (just) defamation going on, thanks for the insight :daumenhoch:
good points there JT. - So if i get it right A'me want to stop Porkchop from undercutting prices that make life hard for UK distributors. -- Porkchop could promise to sell for the same price as that main competitor in the UK Hm..
Pork chop can't be forced to change their pricing strategy, but would appear to have been resistant to suggestions it should charge more.
This is the only control mechanism left, particularly if you are under pressure from other 'exclusive' resellers.
.of course Ame could charge different prices...... just sayin :-X. That's why i was hinting towards a compromise towards equalising (word?) the benefits. Like: Porkchop could raise the shipping costs specifically for Unitrons sent to the UK. --- Don't know if this would satisfy the competitor, but in case its a UK competitor, he could be, as most british customers would normally prefer the nearer seller (other circumstances being the 'same'). And Porkchop could count on its base of loyal customers.
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It should not be possible to buy grips from the USA and get them delivered to the UK for less than the UK distributor can sell them for.
Either A'me is overcharging charging the UK distributors for the product, or the UK distributors are adding too much margin...
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and thats the crux of the problem.
there is no 'exclusivity' if someone operates a web based just in time business model ( from home) . Super efficient inventory management and low overhead, vs established commercial entities with larger overheads and bigger and older stock holding.
Porchchop can sell for less margin, but probably end up with the same if not more net profit.
An open minded approach and lots of communication would have probably allowed an effective work around, some colours going one way, some another etc....
I'd be very suprised if AMe change their mind, particularly as Porkchop have gone so public with it.
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We live in a global marketplace, and in the end (in the UK) we should not be forced to pay higher retail prices for A'Me products in order to protect a distributor from competition.
If the established commercial entities with larger overheads can't compete, they shouldn't be complaining to a supplier about the competition, and spend the time working on their business plan to make themselves more competitive.
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everyone needs to get a grip
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We live in a global marketplace, and in the end (in the UK) we should not be forced to pay higher retail prices for A'Me products in order to protect a distributor from competition.
If the established commercial entities with larger overheads can't compete, they shouldn't be complaining to a supplier about the competition, and spend the time working on their business plan to make themselves more competitive.
agreed.
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I don't know Justin as I don't buy from him, but I have 1 question?
Is he complaining about paying a lot of Corporation Tax or his rate of Corporation Tax?
If I ever complained about the former (and I pay a lot) I'd get told to "fook off" and deservedly so...
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I don't know Justin as I don't buy from him, but I have 1 question?
Is he complaining about paying a lot of Corporation Tax or his rate of Corporation Tax?
If I ever complained about the former (and I pay a lot) I'd get told to "fook off" and deservedly so...
If I have it right, neither, he's stating that he pays no differently to any other bricks and mortar business or any other internet business (except Apple, Google, Microsoft and the like who it seems pays varying amounts below what they really should).
It's about being taken seriously as a business and being able to buy products to sell to sustain that business.
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I don't know Justin as I don't buy from him, but I have 1 question?
Is he complaining about paying a lot of Corporation Tax or his rate of Corporation Tax?
If I ever complained about the former (and I pay a lot) I'd get told to "fook off" and deservedly so...
If I have it right, neither, he's stating that he pays no differently to any other bricks and mortar business or any other internet business (except Apple, Google, Microsoft and the like who it seems pays varying amounts below what they really should).
It's about being taken seriously as a business and being able to buy products to sell to sustain that business.
Ah yes, I misread/interpreted.
I did find it odd someone would complain about making money.