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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: Bfellows on February 15, 2015, 09:54 PM
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I've been giving it some thought today and i've decided i'm about done with old school. I'm not giving up completely....... Not much hope with 3 mid school and a pit bike build on the go, but i've had my fill of faked, fooked and general shite tat often being pedelled as mint NOS.
I like engineering and resto work so have decided to stick to what i enjoy and spend more time resurrecting wrecks and the odd mid school build rather than building 80s show bikes.
I've been lucky enough to have built every bike i ever wanted back when i couldn't afford them and a few more besides all with the help of the RAD members, but every time i get screwed over i lose a bit of the love. I''m going stick to scrubbing tyres in the ensuite ;)
Bert
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I'm feeling a bit like that myself Bert :-\
I have knowingly used a couple of re-pop items on builds but, with the mass of reproduction parts out there and, as you rightly say, people selling hard to find parts and being told they are genuine NOS items, only to find they are not, makes it too hard for me to build mint bikes. That and the ever soaring costs of these parts.
I am enjoying putting together a few beaters at the moment with genuine used old school parts and actually riding them to be honest :daumenhoch:
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Funnily enough i don't have a problem with repop bits, just with the blatent fakery, or misrepresentation of parts. At least with midschool you generally know what you're getting as the cost and weight of materials to fake bits would be enough to put people off ;D
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left oldschool for midschool some time ago ... midschool is much more fun :daumenhoch:
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I just class everything as not NOS, its much easier that way.
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Never say never....
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Mid school is probably the way to go Bert I would like a Morales at some point :daumenhoch:
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Even some of the mid parts are getting pricey - mostly by chancers mind..... I'm building what i like to look at now, rather than trying to track down OG air.....
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I'm feeling a bit like that myself Bert :-\
I have knowingly used a couple of re-pop items on builds but, with the mass of reproduction parts out there and, as you rightly say, people selling hard to find parts and being told they are genuine NOS items, only to find they are not, makes it too hard for me to build mint bikes. That and the ever soaring costs of these parts.
I am enjoying putting together a few beaters at the moment with genuine used old school parts and actually riding them to be honest :daumenhoch:
did bert mention repop ? you are a bad man terry . :LolLolLolLol:
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Thank you for the (Top Quality) parts you have sold me Bert...
One day I'll get the bike / bikes finished...
The problem I have is the cost of the parts...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tuf-Neck-Inverted-Stem-1-Quill-fits-cook-Bros-laguna-powerlite-/191511191221?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c96f4deb5
This is a stem I want... :(
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Don't think that's a marker for what you'll have to pay... just another chancer init. :uglystupid2:
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Thank you for the (Top Quality) parts you have sold me Bert...
One day I'll get the bike / bikes finished...
The problem I have is the cost of the parts...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tuf-Neck-Inverted-Stem-1-Quill-fits-cook-Bros-laguna-powerlite-/191511191221?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c96f4deb5
This is a stem I want... :(
Jesus wept, thats pushing it...... I'm not knocking the whole OS thing, but when completes are heading toward 2nd hand Porsche Boxster money........
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I know exactly what you're saying , prices have gone mad. I'm building my last os at the min a gen 1 freestyler and like you say I could buy a nice vintage motor for the same price. Thank fook it's neally finished. No more buying for me.
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I know exactly what you're saying , prices have gone mad. I'm building my last os at the min a gen 1 freestyler and like you say I could buy a nice vintage motor for the same price. Thank fook it's nealky finished. No more buying for me.
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:LolLolLolLol: I'm skint Nick, can't aford to do it anymore fella.
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:LolLolLolLol: I'm skint Nick, can't aford to do it anymore fella.
Until the next one Denzil :LolLolLolLol:
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:LolLolLolLol: cracker
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Classic...
You'll be back with something...'Green'...
Fook me 1978...
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Gets me every time
Even sadder than the end credits of 'the littlest hobo'
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I cant afford either but kuch prefer midschool as I remember the stuff cos I was riding it bitd init :slayer:
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Now it would cost £1500 to build a tatty supergoose rider with no chance of ever making it look mint.
I would like to build a 1978 motomag monoshock but the cost of parts is slowing me down some what
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the way prices have gone recently have ruined it for me, too many people just interested in money and not the love of it, there are still some decent people out there though. :)
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Yep.. Prices have gone up.. Loads more at this hobby than ever. So the dilemma is.. Do you sell your gear to someone that's just going to keep it for a week and sell it to the new money For double..
I've seen a Hutch pro racer F&F with set of powerbends go for £600.. So sell it cheap and feed the greed.. No way!!
All this new money won't be around for long.. 👍
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Now it would cost £1500 to build a tatty supergoose
Really...? Using gold & platinum?! That seems expensive...
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Well it aint far off Devil ! if you do the math :popcorn:
£30 grips
£400 F/F
£200 handlebars (if you can find them) stainless with the thickness of tin foil
£180 wheels
£ $$$ mongoose snake bellies if you can find them
£200 double clamp stem taken from Davy Jones's locker (these have gone through the roof in the last few months and regret selling my nice OG one to Steve) kick myself everyday :LolLolLolLol:
£60 bb
£60 cranks
£150 seatpost (if you can find one) stainless also tin foil thickness
£40 seatclamp
£120 brakes
£80 seat
£40 headset
£60 pedals
£160 for a pad set (if you can find them)
£15 chain soon adds up and then add a spider and chainring to that if you want to ride it :LolLolLolLol:
And if you want NOS it might as well be 24 carat
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Just to get back on track - its not about the money. I'm happy to pay for what i need for builds and can just as easily walk away from what i think is excessive. I've never done the Hutch, or VDC thing for this reason.
I'd love to own some of the VDC builds that i've seen, but i've a couple of kids that take priority money wise. Pre kids i'd have bought a Nomura without a second thought, but i like to think i've got my priorities right?
To quote the great Peter Griffen, what really "grinds my gears" is the blatent misrepresentation of some parts that is basically just fraud. I accept the old buyer beware argument as well as the fact that genuine mistakes happen and i never get my knickers in a twist without good reason.
I'm just titsed off with the muppets who think they are being clever trying to screw people over for the sake of a couple of days wages. They should really just get a paper round and grow up, go back to school, get a proper job if they're that desperate for money.
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Well it aint far off Devil ! if you do the math :popcorn:
£30 grips
£400 F/F
£200 handlebars (if you can find them) stainless with the thickness of tin foil
£180 wheels
£ $$$ mongoose snake bellies if you can find them
£200 double clamp stem taken from Davy Jones's locker (these have gone through the roof in the last few months and regret selling my nice OG one to Steve) kick myself everyday :LolLolLolLol:
£60 bb
£60 cranks
£150 seatpost (if you can find one) stainless also tin foil thickness
£40 seatclamp
£120 brakes
£80 seat
£40 headset
£60 pedals
£160 for a pad set (if you can find them)
£15 chain soon adds up and then add a spider and chainring to that if you want to ride it :LolLolLolLol:
And if you want NOS it might as well be 24 carat
Sorry for taking it off track a wee bit Bert but I can't help pointing out that a tatty supergoose or the bike below for the same money, this is where you start to realise that the price of bmx stuff is getting out of hand a bit.
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/hooliganbbb72/maxresdefault_zpsjyl6nsyl.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/hooliganbbb72/media/maxresdefault_zpsjyl6nsyl.jpg.html)
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Now it would cost £1500 to build a tatty supergoose
Really...? Using gold & platinum?! That seems expensive...
I agree... £1500 should build you more than a tatty Supergoose.
For me It's all about biding your time, waiting for the right part at the right price and when needed putting your restoration skills to the test. Think some folk get the impression that if it's not NOS it's not bling. :-\
I've usually got three builds on the go so i pick up bargains for my builds as and when. When you've only got one build on the go and need a part your limited to what's available at the time and perhaps feel you've got to pay through the nose to finish it. ???
There's plenty of chancers out there tryna make a quick buck and drive prices up but there's also plenty of decent folk who aren't. :)
Patience is the key. :daumenhoch:
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Now it would cost £1500 to build a tatty supergoose
Patience is the key. :daumenhoch:
^^ yep :daumenhoch:
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Well it aint far off Devil ! if you do the math :popcorn:
£30 grips
£400 F/F
£200 handlebars (if you can find them) stainless with the thickness of tin foil
£180 wheels
£ $$$ mongoose snake bellies if you can find them
£200 double clamp stem taken from Davy Jones's locker (these have gone through the roof in the last few months and regret selling my nice OG one to Steve) kick myself everyday :LolLolLolLol:
£60 bb
£60 cranks
£150 seatpost (if you can find one) stainless also tin foil thickness
£40 seatclamp
£120 brakes
£80 seat
£40 headset
£60 pedals
£160 for a pad set (if you can find them)
£15 chain soon adds up and then add a spider and chainring to that if you want to ride it :LolLolLolLol:
And if you want NOS it might as well be 24 carat
i think some of th prices you have quoted are a bit on the steep side tbh,
£120 brakes ?
£400 frame set ?
£180 wheels
£60 BB
£60 crank?
all a bit high imo
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It's a tricky one Andy - if you want to build a decent mk1 Supergoose (or Team Mongoose) you could be looking at close to these numbers for the specific bits.... maybee £1,500 is little high but you'd definitely not do it for a grand (unless you were lucky enough to have been given a frameset in the firstplace :angel: )
Some of those prices are too low actually - the grips for instance, the padset if you want originals and let's face it, you're never gonna get a set of Mongoose stamped snakebellies so forget them as well, as Snoopy stated :daumenhoch:
£400 for the f&f and £200 for the stem is where it's at I'd say these days :-\
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Now it would cost £1500 to build a tatty supergoose
Really...? Using gold & platinum?! That seems expensive...
I agree... £1500 should build you more than a tatty Supergoose.
For me It's all about biding your time, waiting for the right part at the right price and when needed putting your restoration skills to the test. Think some folk get the impression that if it's not NOS it's not bling. :-\
I've usually got three builds on the go so i pick up bargains for my builds as and when. When you've only got one build on the go and need a part your limited to what's available at the time and perhaps feel you've got to pay through the nose to finish it. ???
There's plenty of chancers out there tryna make a quick buck and drive prices up but there's also plenty of decent folk who aren't. :)
Patience is the key. :daumenhoch:
Very true, but i've never had any patience :LolLolLolLol:
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Very true, but i've never had any patience :LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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It's a tricky one Andy - if you want to build a decent mk1 Supergoose (or Team Mongoose) you could be looking at close to these numbers for the specific bits.... maybee £1,500 is little high but you'd definitely not do it for a grand (unless you were lucky enough to have been given a frameset in the firstplace :angel: )
Some of those prices are too low actually - the grips for instance, the padset if you want originals and let's face it, you're never gonna get a set of Mongoose stamped snakebellies so forget them as well, as Snoopy stated :daumenhoch:
£400 for the f&f and £200 for the stem is where it's at I'd say these days :-\
guess i better snap up the 2 "T" stamped frames i've been offered for a lot less and flip them then ;) :LolLolLolLol:
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Now it would cost £1500 to build a tatty supergoose
Really...? Using gold & platinum?! That seems expensive...
I agree... £1500 should build you more than a tatty Supergoose.
For me It's all about biding your time, waiting for the right part at the right price and when needed putting your restoration skills to the test. Think some folk get the impression that if it's not NOS it's not bling. :-\
I've usually got three builds on the go so i pick up bargains for my builds as and when. When you've only got one build on the go and need a part your limited to what's available at the time and perhaps feel you've got to pay through the nose to finish it. ???
There's plenty of chancers out there tryna make a quick buck and drive prices up but there's also plenty of decent folk who aren't. :)
Patience is the key. :daumenhoch:
I'm a chancer...I want to rip-off everyone.
I hate bikes; I just want to make as much money as possible, buy a spaceship & move to Wolverhampton.
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Now it would cost £1500 to build a tatty supergoose
Really...? Using gold & platinum?! That seems expensive...
I agree... £1500 should build you more than a tatty Supergoose.
For me It's all about biding your time, waiting for the right part at the right price and when needed putting your restoration skills to the test. Think some folk get the impression that if it's not NOS it's not bling. :-\
I've usually got three builds on the go so i pick up bargains for my builds as and when. When you've only got one build on the go and need a part your limited to what's available at the time and perhaps feel you've got to pay through the nose to finish it. ???
There's plenty of chancers out there tryna make a quick buck and drive prices up but there's also plenty of decent folk who aren't. :)
Patience is the key. :daumenhoch:
I'm a chancer...I want to rip-off everyone.
I hate bikes; I just want to make as much money as possible, buy a spaceship & move to Wolverhampton.
See ya then. :P
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hobby has changed beyond all recognition.
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hobby has changed beyond all recognition.
I dunno about that
For sure a few have come and gone, but just going by the amount of help & advice I've had with my current build from people on this forum* I'd say Rad is still most definitely RAD :daumenhoch:
* including you, you big bufty :teef:
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Now it would cost £1500 to build a tatty supergoose
Really...? Using gold & platinum?! That seems expensive...
I agree... £1500 should build you more than a tatty Supergoose.
For me It's all about biding your time, waiting for the right part at the right price and when needed putting your restoration skills to the test. Think some folk get the impression that if it's not NOS it's not bling. :-\
I've usually got three builds on the go so i pick up bargains for my builds as and when. When you've only got one build on the go and need a part your limited to what's available at the time and perhaps feel you've got to pay through the nose to finish it. ???
There's plenty of chancers out there tryna make a quick buck and drive prices up but there's also plenty of decent folk who aren't. :)
Patience is the key. :daumenhoch:
I'm a chancer...I want to rip-off everyone.
I hate bikes; I just want to make as much money as possible, buy a spaceship & move to Wolverhampton.
Do you really think my prices were high ? I think £252 is taking the p#ss for a seat post, this is a good example
Ebay 161608217192 sorry I don't have a link, and their are also a scuffed set of bars on their for £176 :idiot2:
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It's an expensive hobby, I have not been around long compared to most but I believe I am lucky to be around realistic and grounded members on here who have been kind enough to ask a fair and reasonable price for parts and also at times hung on for me to get the funds together to buy those parts, I would also like to think I too have passed that good will onto others when I have sold parts and would extend that to anyone on here.
I enjoy this hobbie and have a fair to middling collection of bikes, not all the parts are NOS or I fact mega bucks but there right for me and that's my choice.
It's what you make off it, you sell to buy a good friend told me, trouble is I rarely sell ???
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It's an expensive hobby, I have not been around long compared to most but I believe I am lucky to be around realistic and grounded members on here who have been kind enough to ask a fair and reasonable price for parts and also at times hung on for me to get the funds together to buy those parts, I would also like to think I too have passed that good will onto others when I have sold parts and would extend that to anyone on here.
I enjoy this hobbie and have a fair to middling collection of bikes, not all the parts are NOS or I fact mega bucks but there right for me and that's my choice.
It's what you make off it, you sell to buy.. ;)
Don't get me wrong i'm not moaning about anyone on RAD , This is a fair place to buy items and from what I have experienced peeps are also good at describing items accurately on here but mongoose parts aren't always easy to find in the UK.
I bought a set of bars from the states a while back and they were bent, after paying £110 for them I was pretty p#ssed
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Here's a link snoopy. :daumenhoch:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=161608217192&alt=web
£252 for a seat post is taking the piss but that doesn't mean it's the going rate. It all depends on what you're willing to pay... if it's too expensive just move on and wait for the next one to come along. :daumenhoch:
There's always some fooker out there trying to screw every fooker else ... that's life i suppose. ???
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At his rates, it would cost 5 grand to build a supergoose :coolsmiley: thanks custard for putting up the link :daumenhoch:
Funny thing is, I know these parts are getting hard to find but for example a gold double clamp stem is making all the money and peeps are paying it, BITD I couldn't wait to remove it and replace it with a pro neck II because it was deemed ugly and heavy :LolLolLolLol:
I just bought a NOS mongoose stamped seat post clamp ::) for £78 so I probably want my head testing anyway
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It's an expensive hobby, I have not been around long compared to most but I believe I am lucky to be around realistic and grounded members on here who have been kind enough to ask a fair and reasonable price for parts and also at times hung on for me to get the funds together to buy those parts, I would also like to think I too have passed that good will onto others when I have sold parts and would extend that to anyone on here.
I enjoy this hobbie and have a fair to middling collection of bikes, not all the parts are NOS or I fact mega bucks but there right for me and that's my choice.
It's what you make off it, you sell to buy.. ;)
Don't get me wrong i'm not moaning about anyone on RAD , This is a fair place to buy items and from what I have experienced peeps are also good at describing items accurately on here but mongoose parts aren't always easy to find in the UK.
I bought a set of bars from the states a while back and they were bent, after paying £110 for them I was pretty p#ssed
Your right mate, it's outside here were it gets daft, I just look at these adverts and prices and laugh at these star Gazers, there is one Born everyday.... :LolLolLolLol:
I wouldn't give it the time of day, I put it into a context, of small minority of lunatic's that you simply cannot take seriously.
In fact there it is bingo, The title of a new thread....
An Extraordinary Minority of Star Gazing Lunatics.
Anyone want to get it started feel free...
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It's an expensive hobby, I have not been around long compared to most but I believe I am lucky to be around realistic and grounded members on here who have been kind enough to ask a fair and reasonable price for parts and also at times hung on for me to get the funds together to buy those parts, I would also like to think I too have passed that good will onto others when I have sold parts and would extend that to anyone on here.
I enjoy this hobbie and have a fair to middling collection of bikes, not all the parts are NOS or I fact mega bucks but there right for me and that's my choice.
It's what you make off it, you sell to buy.. ;)
Don't get me wrong i'm not moaning about anyone on RAD , This is a fair place to buy items and from what I have experienced peeps are also good at describing items accurately on here but mongoose parts aren't always easy to find in the UK.
I bought a set of bars from the states a while back and they were bent, after paying £110 for them I was pretty p#ssed
Your right mate, it's outside here were it gets daft, I just look at these adverts and prices and laugh at these star Gazers, there is one Born everyday.... :LolLolLolLol:
I wouldn't give it the time of day, I put it into a context, of small minority of lunatic's that you simply cannot take seriously.
In fact there it is bingo, The title of a new thread....
An Extraordinary Minority of Star Gazing Lunatics.
Anyone want to get it started feel free...
I think this particular seller just wants peeps to know what he's got but has no intension of wanting to sell anything