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Title: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 21, 2015, 10:45 PM: Hi all..
midlife crisis kicking in and going back to roots..
Just bought this today..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1985-Haro-Master-Freestyler-Old-School-BMX-skyway-Tuffs-Pro-Neck-GT-Hutch-Bob-/331504827155'ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=wPms6qNKXce3yvLt5AVrz%252Frarb0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

What do you think .
I think I got a bargain as I see frames alone go for much more...
Just ordered new bits already and it hasnt landed yet ...
Anyway..
Going up in my attic tommorow and bringing down my old original bike I bought back new in`84
I bought a rebel freestyle pro frame and forks (with reynolds 4130 tubing I think..) from a small bike shop top of Crwys road oppsite the police station in Cardiff.
Back then I removed all the goodies from my year old `83 ultra burner (as I kept snapping the frames x2 and bars x3 all replaced warranty at my local halfords in Barry >:D )
What A Great bike that rebel was..so light and strong doing all the ground tricks and jumps on home made ramps and jumping off bus-top roofs :uglystupid2:
Cannot wait for it to arrive , as I always wanted a Haro freestyler or a pro performer back in the day but couldnt afford either so I built my own to my budget..
welll...
passed caring what everyone thinks when it lands..
And the comments that I am to old..
bring it on !!!
wish it was `84 again...
happy dayyyyysssss..
Ady
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: BMX1973 on March 22, 2015, 04:40 PM: :welcome to :radbmxsmilie: :daumenhoch:

Both are nice bikes but not completely original.
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: griff on March 22, 2015, 05:25 PM: Welcome to RAD Ady
Dunno about 'bargain' but not too bad a deal, you can always upgrade bits as you see fit :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 22, 2015, 06:52 PM: Thanks for your replies...
Been looking for a chrome framed haro for some time now as most available have painted frames or over priced chromed frames..
I wanted something complete with a few scuffs here and there as this is going to be "used" as some listed were just too nice to be abused..
I know there are not if any original parts like the "new" skyways etc.. but why have a original bike with the price tag it commands, and thought in the back of your mind that you might mark these nice nos or original components trying your old school tricks..( I hope :daumenhoch: )
And was happy what I payied when it ended..
Anyway..
Going to change a few bits when it arrives and cannot wait to get back into it again.
Got my old rebel freestyle pro down today got a bit of work to do as the chrome frame is a bit pitted in places any tips would be great please..
Cheers all....
:radbmxsmilie:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: bobbbbsy on March 22, 2015, 07:26 PM: i would reccomend building or buying a new skool bike to ride . so so much better feel . :coolsmiley:

keep the old skool stuff for rideouts/ showing off.
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: griff on March 22, 2015, 08:07 PM: Bobbbs has a point about using a new school for riding, I got a haro master when I got back into BMX and after a few goes in the skate park ended up going NS (cheaper/lighter/stronger etc)

Can't beat OS for cruising though :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: senzo milano on March 22, 2015, 08:23 PM: Always love those Haro Masters :smitten: :smitten:

Nice one :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: bobbbbsy on March 22, 2015, 08:26 PM: what happened to your haro griff ?

its like utility car buying . would you really want a 80s car when you could have a 2000 and something car or a 2015 car at best .
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: griff on March 22, 2015, 11:08 PM: Quote from: bobbbbsy on March 22, 2015, 08:26 PM
what happened to your haro griff ?

I flogged it to make way/pay for the Ripper Bobbbbs :( was a shame as it had given me some good memories but didn't have the room or funds to build something else otherwise
I do prefer the PK though so all good ;)
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: oldscool on March 23, 2015, 09:14 AM: :welcome to :radbmxsmilie: Gt is a good buy.
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: In2bmx on March 23, 2015, 09:46 AM: :welcome to Rad :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 23, 2015, 02:43 PM: Quote from: griff on March 22, 2015, 08:07 PM
Bobbbs has a point about using a new school for riding, I got a haro master when I got back into BMX and after a few goes in the skate park ended up going NS (cheaper/lighter/stronger etc)

Can't beat OS for cruising though :daumenhoch:

Hi Griff,
I think your correct...
Looking now at NS and shocked what you can get for your money..
So now looking to go down that root..
Being cheeky..
What NS bike did you get after?
Or what would you all recommend.
I Would like somthing light must be freestyle with a long frame.
Would love to get a OS gt frame as they are pretty light and strong.. Then buy a NS used gt pro take off the goodies and have the best of both worlds.
Have seen this done and looks great ..
But they said they have issues with the NS forks and have to modify them..
here is the link...
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=172215
again many thanks for your replies..
cheers all...
Ady 8)

:radbmxsmilie:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: bobbbbsy on March 23, 2015, 02:54 PM: we the people crysis 2014 or 15 is a good buy . has goos spec . 21 inch .

http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/product/66208/WeThePeople_Crysis_2014_BMX_Bike

or social narc

http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/product/56715/Social_Narc_2013_BMX_Bike

this is the cheap good stuff . the only way is up .
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: thebigdog on March 23, 2015, 03:08 PM: :welcome

I spotted the GT on ebay as its not far from me , but take a closer look at the seat tube?? Looks to me like its had a extra bit welded on it? Looks crap!
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 23, 2015, 03:32 PM: Quote from: bobbbbsy on March 23, 2015, 02:54 PM
we the people crysis 2014 or 15 is a good buy . has goos spec . 21 inch .

http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/product/66208/WeThePeople_Crysis_2014_BMX_Bike

or social narc

http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/product/56715/Social_Narc_2013_BMX_Bike

this is the cheap good stuff . the only way is up .

Cheers bobbbbsy...
just looking now..
the social narc looks great and lightish..
many thanks again...
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: insectbones on March 23, 2015, 03:37 PM: Its always worth having a look on ebay for decent used new school bikes too.

Late last year I picked up a S&M LTF with decent parts on it for less than 300 quid :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 23, 2015, 04:32 PM: Hi Bones..
Using your expertise..
Is this any good/price spec etc....
http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1730269/?directtofirstphoto
Very local just up the road to me ..
But the top of the frame looks a bit short as looking for a 21"..
What do you think ;)
or..

http://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/112639947/custom-bmx-strong-light-good-condition.html
But looks a bit battered....

Finally very cheap..
Dont know what frame copy skyways wheels??
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/12021490/
Sorry to trouble you all..
Cheers..
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: insectbones on March 23, 2015, 04:58 PM: I have no expertise ;D

There are plenty on here who have decent knowledge about NS bikes, i'm not one of them

Have a look in the new school park section on here and see what people are building, and do some research on whatever frame you think of getting.

If you can try before you buy, do it.

Where are you based?
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 23, 2015, 05:08 PM: Hi There,

Just so much choice...
Will have to do a bit of research..

Based near Cardiff South Wales..
Where are you based..
Cheers..
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: insectbones on March 23, 2015, 05:16 PM: Used to live not too far from Cardiff, Hay-on-Wye :daumenhoch:

There must be some skateparks near or in Cardiff? Get yourself down to them and talk to the kids, see if you can blag a go on any of their bikes, see what suits you. I did this and they were all really helpful.

I'm right down south now on the coast :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: bobbbbsy on March 23, 2015, 08:10 PM: anything that has SC , stolen , exposure parts on is not too great . the middle 1 is probably the best bet but if you treade it off against slkighttly more for a better new bike it becomes not worth it . last 1 is pos .
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 23, 2015, 08:47 PM: Quote from: bobbbbsy on March 23, 2015, 08:10 PM
anything that has SC , stolen , exposure parts on is not too great . the middle 1 is probably the best bet but if you treade it off against slkighttly more for a better new bike it becomes not worth it . last 1 is pos .

Last 1 pos :D :D
Didnt know at 1st what you meant...
Made me chuckle..
Total agree pos...
looking at something that has the best of both worlds flatland and freestyle..
just found this looks amazing..
but £££
http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1246906/
Or
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Custom-built-BMX-flatland-bike-/261816305205?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cf577c635

Again I would like to say many thanks to all above for your helpfull replies...
Been on the New section and learn so much..
Many thanks..
Cheers...
Ady :daumenhoch:

:radbmxsmilie:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: griff on March 23, 2015, 09:04 PM: If you're planning on spending that kind of money..

I'd recommend getting a site tag and heading over to the for sale section where you can find this
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,180809.0.html

But otherwise just be patient, look at loads and then buy something or you'll only end up having to buy over n over again

How tall are you? That may help narrow things down a bit..
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 23, 2015, 09:22 PM: Hi griff,

Nice frame..
But looking for something sort of complete to practice on at first..
But like you said I will end up buying over again like this haro I just bought...
I just seen a PK ripper which I should have bought so watch this space ::)
Anyway..
5ft 9" and the wrong side of 40 (sigh...)
Cheers all...
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: griff on March 23, 2015, 09:37 PM: Quote from: Ady on March 23, 2015, 09:22 PM
Hi griff,

Nice frame..
But looking for something sort of complete to practice on at first..
But like you said I will end up buying over again like this haro I just bought...
I just seen a PK ripper which I should have bought so watch this space ::)
Anyway..
5ft 9" and the wrong side of 40 (sigh...)
Cheers all...

Most of us on here are the wrong side of 40 :LolLolLolLol:
Look for something with a top tube around the 20.8" - 21" length & go from there
I'm about 5'8" & my frame is 20.8" with a set of decent sized bars is plenty roomy :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 23, 2015, 09:45 PM: Cheers Griff :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Devilock on March 23, 2015, 09:55 PM: Quote from: griff on March 23, 2015, 09:37 PM

Most of us on here are the wrong side of 40
I'm about 5'8"

We're all 19 & Griff is 4' 8".
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: bobbbbsy on March 23, 2015, 10:08 PM: >:D

devilrich just looks young because he eats at holland and barret .

im not the wrong side of 40 i ll have you know ! :teef:

you can do flatland on the new street bikes . they have low step over height .

a pro flatlander for haro uses a modern street bike with no brakes .
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: griff on March 23, 2015, 10:09 PM: Quote from: Devilock on March 23, 2015, 09:55 PM
Quote from: griff on March 23, 2015, 09:37 PM

Most of us on here are the wrong side of 40
I'm about 5'8"

We're all 19 & Griff is 4' 8".

:bellend:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 27, 2015, 05:22 PM: Mr Bob arrived today..
Put it all together as in bits..
Stood back looks the nuts..
Out the back tries my first trick as you do...
and the rear caliper snaps ::)... Dia compe bulldog Thumbs down

Dia Compe MX1000 in the post should arrive Monday... :slayer:

:radbmxsmilie:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: bobbbbsy on March 27, 2015, 05:25 PM: we told you to buy stuff that works :D
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 27, 2015, 05:30 PM: Quote from: bobbbbsy on March 27, 2015, 05:25 PM
we told you to buy stuff that works :D

Still looking mate...

Gives the name Bob a bad name :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: bobbbbsy on March 27, 2015, 10:25 PM: haro ?
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 28, 2015, 10:14 AM: Quote from: bobbbbsy on March 27, 2015, 10:25 PM
haro ?
As "bob" the bobbing dog says...
Oh yes..
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 28, 2015, 05:22 PM: And my other bitch..

Full power bafang bbs02 750w mid drive cube 29'er

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Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 28, 2015, 05:24 PM: Thinking of getting this....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMX-bike-20-6-Proper-frame-We-The-People-bars-Fly-Suelo-flatland-forks-/281621185726?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4191ee44be

What do you think.....

Cheers all... :daumenhoch:

:radbmxsmilie:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: bobbbbsy on March 28, 2015, 05:28 PM: ask if its a proper ttl frame . seen loads of people complaining they snapped theirs .
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: bobbbbsy on March 30, 2015, 09:49 PM: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sunday-Funday-Pro-BMX-Parts-Frame-Bars-Forks-amp-Odyssey-Twombolt-Cranks-/151635228158?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 30, 2015, 10:16 PM: Quote from: bobbbbsy on March 30, 2015, 09:49 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sunday-Funday-Pro-BMX-Parts-Frame-Bars-Forks-amp-Odyssey-Twombolt-Cranks-/151635228158?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276
Hi bob...
Just emailed him .
Just Asked about the top tube size..
He has it up with gumtree for £110..
Anyway..
Not having much luck with my haro .
New dia comp brakes arrived today and the front is damaged.. ::)
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Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: bobbbbsy on March 30, 2015, 11:23 PM: oh yeah . should be straight :D. return.
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on March 31, 2015, 06:44 AM: Quote from: bobbbbsy on March 30, 2015, 09:49 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sunday-Funday-Pro-BMX-Parts-Frame-Bars-Forks-amp-Odyssey-Twombolt-Cranks-/151635228158?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276

cheers bobbbey...
just bought it...
£125 posted... :slayer:
:daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: bobbbbsy on March 31, 2015, 04:45 PM: thats a quality buy .. strong as hell . great cranks to. was it free post ?

superbike dan on here if you want new powdercoat and bmx city for wheels and bb.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMX-Wheels-Counterfitt-Alienation-Felon-Wheelset-CLEARANCE-RRP-239-99-/400713880805?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item5d4c6894e5

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMX-Bottom-Brackets-Counterfitt-22mm-Mid-BB-/161444441873?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2596d6af11
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Devilock on March 31, 2015, 05:01 PM: Quote from: bobbbbsy on March 31, 2015, 04:45 PM
thats a quality buy .. strong as hell . great cranks to. was it free post ?

superbike dan on here if you want new powdercoat

Just leave it, build it & ride it.
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on April 01, 2015, 07:15 PM: Quote from: bobbbbsy on March 31, 2015, 04:45 PM
thats a quality buy .. strong as hell . great cranks to. was it free post ?

superbike dan on here if you want new powdercoat and bmx city for wheels and bb.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMX-Wheels-Counterfitt-Alienation-Felon-Wheelset-CLEARANCE-RRP-239-99-/400713880805?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item5d4c6894e5

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMX-Bottom-Brackets-Counterfitt-22mm-Mid-BB-/161444441873?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2596d6af11

oooh Yes..
Free postage.. :slayer:
Bought a few bits already...
A complete bike with good custom bits fitted which I will strip down..
COLONY plastic pedals black with blue alloy ends , blue vocal 25t chainwheel , Kool Stop Brake Blocks Salmon Pads better braking..blue gyro inc cables..basically going hint of blue with the orange frame bits :slayer:
Frame and bits arriving next week due to easter hols...

Anyway...

Well..
As you are aware I had a problem with these damaged dia compe mx 1000 from..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360950123174?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&var=630298616036&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Sent them loads of pics of issus..
This was there reply..

please return the brake in its original box and original pads.. we will have to forward it to diacompe for appraisal.. providing it hasn't been damaged it will be replaced

cheeky git :D

So basically go back to diacompe (in japan :idiot2: ) for them to say its damaged and no refund (uk seller )
yea right...
Got a good mind to sent it all back for a full refund at my cost as free postage originally..
But his feedback is a bit iffy as some have returned and no refund as not recieved goods so dont know what to do..(would send recorded)
Plus there are no other site I can find that sell at that price... ::)
So I dont know what to do...

Or option 2..
Feck it..
Bend it back.. >:(
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: bobbbbsy on April 02, 2015, 03:00 PM: sounds like an idiot . hate firms who try and weasel out of refunds . its a chance they take and something they should do straight away .
stay firm that you want a refund .report to ebay if it dos nt come.
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Tel-boy75 on April 02, 2015, 04:45 PM: Ebay will provide a refund if you send back to the seller as damaged. I would open a case against the seller before sending back though. The seller then gets an amount of time to sort issue or Ebay will refund you.
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on April 02, 2015, 08:25 PM: Quote from: Tel-boy75 on April 02, 2015, 04:45 PM
Ebay will provide a refund if you send back to the seller as damaged. I would open a case against the seller before sending back though. The seller then gets an amount of time to sort issue or Ebay will refund you.
Hi all..
decided to bend it back..
not prefect but better than it was...
Here is the pic of the bike finshed..
Not original but happy as I always wanted one..(but also love to have a pk ripper quad angle watch this space... 8)
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Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: Ady on April 02, 2015, 08:56 PM: Well...
just brought down my original back in the day bike I put together back in 1983 (GLC song)
Striped down my 1982 ultra burner and used the bits on the rebel freestyle pro frame forks and bars..
bits fitted B.I.T.D
Suntour headset .
Araya rims.
tuf neck chainwheel with sugino cr-mo crank.
shimano platforms
531 reynolds layback seat post (came with frame)
Lee chi mx levers (one has faded brown was black)
sr seat clamp..
ritchey seat which had a fabric cover in white black checker but it just disintegrated when brought down from attic.. ::)
mx 1000 dia comp again front gone brown..(1983 copies as to dear to buy back then ::) )
rebel freestyle pro frame and forks bars and seat post all with reynolds 531 tubing which I bought new in `83 ...
some pics of it un touched since `83...
Going to clean up to the best of my abilities and order some bits and bobbbbsy :daumenhoch:
Again watch this space 8)
You dont see many of these Uk made bikes...
Enjoy..
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Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: bobbbbsy on April 08, 2015, 02:53 PM: wow. cool survivor . dont ever sell it !
Title: Re: Hi all going back to my roots
Post by: CustardLips on April 22, 2015, 09:36 PM: Liking the Rebel. :)
:welcome to Rad Ady. :daumenhoch: