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Title: Frame id help
Post by: pvtspoon on May 14, 2015, 08:56 AM
Hi Guys new here first post

ive had this bmx since i was about 8yrs old im now 35 i was given it by my dads late brother he got the frame from a scrap/junk yard or something no one can really remember & done it up its got no S/N anywhere & ive always woundered what the frame was & if its worth restoring again ? its been sat in the garden for years so in bit of a state

(http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac12/Pvtspoon/IMG_2079_zpsabht4aao.jpg)


Meany thanks for any help
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: pickle on May 14, 2015, 10:20 AM
 :welcome to RAD, i have absolutely no idea what that is, sorry.  At first i thought it looked like a Raleigh shopper that's been cut and welded to something else  :-\  never seen anything like it
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: Tel-boy75 on May 14, 2015, 11:12 AM
The way the seat tube curves into the downtube is something I haven't seen before. Interesting. Is that a European bottom bracket?
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: pickle on May 14, 2015, 12:04 PM
I'd say it looks like it should/would've come with a banana seat type set up as well by the look of those rear dropouts
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: Danny61379 on May 14, 2015, 12:55 PM
Never seen a frame like that before, I think it looks pretty cool though maybe wort doing a cheap tart up on it possibly and keeping it as it was your late uncles ?  :welcome btw.
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: deeman on May 14, 2015, 04:03 PM
Welcome to  :radbmxsmilie: mate.
That is a very unusual looking frame and unlike anything I have ever seen before either. Looks like it was definitely a freestyler.... It doesn't look like it is fantastic quality but I think you should restore it just because of it's rarity! It is kinda weird but kinda cool, Could make a very interesting build. Is that a union jack on the headtube? could be a clue....
Damo  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: pvtspoon on May 14, 2015, 05:18 PM
thanks for all the help guys the forks, hangles & seat where bits he added, he had the frame striped and resprayed white so the union jack are aftermarket, i'll get some more pic over the week & try find a S/N 
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: deeman on May 14, 2015, 06:43 PM
maybe it's a homebrew special? was your uncle handy with a welder? would make sense why no one recognises it!  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: pvtspoon on May 14, 2015, 11:03 PM
maybe it's a homebrew special? was your uncle handy with a welder? would make sense why no one recognises it!  :daumenhoch:

the family remembers he ether swapped it for something or got it from the tip but remember it was just the frame & he had it striped & resprayed, I'll prob land resorting it even if it worth nout anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: fischflo on May 15, 2015, 12:03 AM
 ....just get wild  tall bars and a banana, could become a cool commuter :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: deeman on May 15, 2015, 10:51 AM
maybe it's a homebrew special? was your uncle handy with a welder? would make sense why no one recognises it!  :daumenhoch:

the family remembers he ether swapped it for something or got it from the tip but remember it was just the frame & he had it striped & resprayed, I'll prob land resorting it even if it worth nout anyway  ;)

Restore it anyway dude, it is worth it for the memories if nothing else. It could be a really nice build with a repowder and some nicer parts without having to cost a fortune. Get a site supporters tag and take advantage of the for sale section in here. I can see it with some tuffs, some nicer bars, a nicer seat.....be sure to post the results if you do I would love to see it   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: pvtspoon on May 16, 2015, 07:34 PM
found a photo of when i was given it all fresh in 1988ish

(http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac12/Pvtspoon/Picture%20or%20Video%20003_zps12ye9bqq.jpg)

so ive spent this evening looking for a S/n or any thing to help id it & found nothing but found a sticker under the white paint on the downtube (sorry if i got the name wrong) hoping these might help id it i use sime light thinner to get the white paint off
(http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac12/Pvtspoon/73216d10-e7df-4007-9abc-2ed24168755b_zps2s5mclt4.jpg)

And this sticker on the tube from the seat
(http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac12/Pvtspoon/IMG_2084_zpsmnzv7ka8.jpg)
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: deeman on May 16, 2015, 09:25 PM
No, still no clue! What does that sticker say? motocross? what does it say under the thinners also...hard to see from pic. It looks like it may have been a seventies frame which may have had a motocross theme.....may have had mudguards etc, which has been built with later bmx parts
Either way I like it...deserves a restoration of some sort...try and get it back to how it was....or completely remodel it!

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: peteox on May 16, 2015, 10:13 PM
Could be a starting point?

http://www.mtb-museum.de/bonanza/index.htm
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: deeman on May 17, 2015, 01:08 AM
Could be a starting point?

http://www.mtb-museum.de/bonanza/index.htm

Well done dude, that was exactly the sort of thing I had in mind  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: oldschoolace on May 17, 2015, 02:38 AM
It's deffo European,  probably French as bi-cross is a French abbreviation of bicycle motocross. There are quite a few companies it could be but it's deffo chopper to bmx crossover period bike. Try looking at mbk/motobecane, Peugeot and kalkoff on the off chance it's not French
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: Seripper on May 17, 2015, 04:18 AM
I had similar frame like this when I was as kid which is part of "Bonanza Rad". It was very popular in Germany back in the 70's.
http://www.bonanzarad.net
Title: Re: Frame id help
Post by: pvtspoon on May 17, 2015, 12:38 PM
It's deffo European,  probably French as bi-cross is a French abbreviation of bicycle motocross. There are quite a few companies it could be but it's deffo chopper to bmx crossover period bike. Try looking at mbk/motobecane, Peugeot and kalkoff on the off chance it's not French

had another go at the frame this morning the down pipe sticker says " RANCHO "

(http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac12/Pvtspoon/0496fc27-0a05-4e61-8c2b-726fd35b5de3_zpsflfgwarh.jpg)

then pipe with the seat say's " BR-CROSS "

(http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac12/Pvtspoon/IMG_2087_zpsxkjt1ivw.jpg)
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