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Mid School BMX (>87) 1989 to 2003 (<05) => Mid School ( Keep the faith ) => Topic started by: bmx_freestyler on November 19, 2015, 03:28 PM
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Found this bike on a Classifieds Portal.
First impression was HARO Master out of the 90's.
But the interbar between the double top tubes is tubular, whereas the Haro shows a plate-like design.
Decals says "Cycle Craft", and the sticker on the top tubes "Five o two".
Can anybody confirm this design as a Cyclecraft?
If so, which building date and model - also grateful for further/any informations help to id this frame :)
Note: Seller told me that he has swapped the handlebar over the years.
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894138/DSC_0731.jpg)
For me the decals seems to be original; sticker at the front says "Made in Taiwan":
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894104/DSC_0714.jpg)
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894107/DSC_0716.jpg)
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894108/DSC_0717.jpg)
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894110/DSC_0718.jpg)
Some close-up's (quality of the welds):
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894114/DSC_0743.jpg)
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894115/DSC_0720.jpg)
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894116/DSC_0721.jpg)
The chainstay tubes are all closed at the end (HARO-like):
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894117/DSC_0726.jpg)
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894122/DSC_0725.jpg)
Brakes are all "Dia-Compe" (front: Bulldog; rear: AD-990 [buliding date 1994]; levers: Tech77 with locking):
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894123/DSC_0715.jpg)
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894131/DSC_0723.jpg)
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894133/DSC_0728.jpg)
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894135/DSC_0730.jpg)
Stem is "SR" (original? Not sure because of some blue colored parts on the screws...):
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894147/DSC_0729.jpg)
Bottom view of the fork:
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894165/DSC_0737.jpg)
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894166/DSC_0738.jpg)
Over all a really nice bike ;D
Only the serial at the bottom bracket is not clear to me.
Also it can be seen that the part of the serial number has been kept open during painting of the frame... maybe original or re-powdered?
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/28894180/DSC_0739.jpg)
Many thanks in advance for every hint in this context :bow:
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Cyclecraft normally have distinctive drops front and back and I've never seen them do a freestyler. The serial is all too organized for them too.
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Cyclecraft are my favourite brand, I've never seen a twin top tube one. The oddest thing they have is the Block, which is still a single top tube but unusual forks.
As far as I know the tube ends were never solid either. At least I've never seen solid ones.
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it's a brand made in germany not the US cyclecraft.not many were ever made think due to copywrite branding
remember there being a test in uk ride in the early 90's .has a similar haro twin top tube and a mongoose hooligan oval downtube.
will have a dig around to see if i can find the issue
would be interested in the F+F ;)
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That's a cool looking frame
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That's a cool looking frame
You are absolutely right - thanks ;D
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@ That Swan Guy & Monk_Wally_Honk:
Yep, this was my first impression, too.
Particularly the rear drop outs on CycleCraft (US) bikes appears like clearly U-shaped single part welded below the lower chainstay (with open tubular ends).
Seems that "gary4130" has mentioned the solution:
Obviously this one here is based on a similar German brand (not US), namely "Cycle Craft".
@ gary4130:
In fact I haven't recognized the oval cross section of the down tube until You've mentioned it!
Studying his shape more in detail the downtube nearly appears complex.
Now I've measured the cross section near the bottom bracket (BB) and near the steering tube (ST):
BB tube-width: ~ 5/3" (~43mm)
BB tube height: ~ 8/6" (~34mm)
ST tube width: ~ 8/6" (~34mm)
ST tube height: ~ 5/3" (~43mm)
As You can see, the cross section of the down tube near the BB is quasi inverted compared to his end near the ST.
Would be fantastic if You're able to find the mentioned test inside the "UK Ride" :daumenhoch:
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It looks very much like a copy of a 92-93 master even the forks look similar
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It looks very much like a copy of a 92-93 master even the forks look similar
Yep, that was my first impression, too.
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In the meantime I've studied the Trade Mark register here in Germany.
In fact a wordmark called "CYCLE-CRAFT" has been registered 1994 in Germany particularly for "bicycles".
Holder was "Mr. Sascha Gros". He was the owner of a firm called "CycleCraft e.K." (has produced bicycles).
Than in 2011 this Trade Mark has been deleted based on a holder request...
The same holder has also registered a wordmark called "cycle craft" (without the hyphen) in 1998 for bicycles, accessories thereto and other stuff like bags, clothes and so on.
Against this background "gary 4130" is absolutely right by saying that "cycle craft" (as displayed on the bike) can be traced back to a German firm.
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By the way:
The firm is still alive (http://www.cyclecraft.de/ (http://www.cyclecraft.de/)) producing high quality mountain bikes, racing bikes and so on... :bellend:
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hi michael pics finally uploaded :-[
many thanks to john for scanning them for me-cheers john :daumenhoch:
hope this clears up that it's a 'german' made cyclecraft
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l79/gary7071/img376%20copy_zpslcnj5nwx.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/gary7071/media/img376%20copy_zpslcnj5nwx.jpg.html)(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l79/gary7071/img377%20copy_zps4mxbuca5.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/gary7071/media/img377%20copy_zps4mxbuca5.jpg.html)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l79/gary7071/img379%20copy_zpsl2luueso.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/gary7071/media/img379%20copy_zpsl2luueso.jpg.html)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l79/gary7071/img380%20copy_zpsutr2ifn4.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/gary7071/media/img380%20copy_zpsutr2ifn4.jpg.html)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l79/gary7071/img378%20copy_zpsdla9nr3u.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/gary7071/media/img378%20copy_zpsdla9nr3u.jpg.html)
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It looks quite cool, have you bought it?
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It looks quite cool, have you bought it?
Deeman,
It is me who bought this bike here in Germany a few weeks ago ::)
Gary was able and so kind to dig relevant informations about it and post them here - many thx, Gary :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
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Every day is a school day :daumenhoch:
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It looks quite cool, have you bought it?
Deeman,
It is me who bought this bike here in Germany a few weeks ago ::)
Gary was able and so kind to dig relevant informations about it and post them here - many thx, Gary :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
Nice one, it looks quite reminiscent of a RL20 II. Are you going to restore it or leave it as it is? :daumenhoch:
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few more pics michael ;)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l79/gary7071/img381%20copy_zpszqozjm96.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/gary7071/media/img381%20copy_zpszqozjm96.jpg.html)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l79/gary7071/img382%20copy_zpsray7advy.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/gary7071/media/img382%20copy_zpsray7advy.jpg.html)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l79/gary7071/img383%20copy_zpsmaixhpsk.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/gary7071/media/img383%20copy_zpsmaixhpsk.jpg.html)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l79/gary7071/img335%20copy_zpsjta00rlb.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/gary7071/media/img335%20copy_zpsjta00rlb.jpg.html)
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Fantastic good job, Gary!
Your investigative skills are absolutely impressive (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/yes/two-thumbs-up-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Studying the content of the magazine it can be said that this F/F-set containing really good quality (full chromoly, geometry, stiffnes...) :) :daumenhoch:
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It looks quite cool, have you bought it?
Deeman,
It is me who bought this bike here in Germany a few weeks ago ::)
Gary was able and so kind to dig relevant informations about it and post them here - many thx, Gary :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
Nice one, it looks quite reminiscent of a RL20 II. Are you going to restore it or leave it as it is? :daumenhoch:
Until now I had no idea about the significance of these "Cyclecraft Freestyle F/F-set".
In fact it is Gary's effort who has identified the quality and rareness of this F/F-set :daumenhoch:
In the near future I will try to make a decision about the further way of the bike...
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Thats SO cool.
Please keep it as original as possible ... those grips tho :buck2: ;D
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Thats SO cool.
Please keep it as original as possible ... those grips tho :buck2: ;D
Hehe, not sure about the grips - interested in? :coolsmiley: :LolLolLolLol:
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Cleanup + nice grips= job done! :daumenhoch:
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Ditch them ceedub copies and put some nice knee savers on it too. :daumenhoch: