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Mid School BMX (>87) 1989 to 2003 (<05) => Mid School ( Keep the faith ) => Topic started by: ED209 on February 21, 2016, 11:00 PM
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So I bought a TNT Pro from the states for my daughter for £150 ... she loved it ... but it was a survivor frame and I didn't want to restore it as it had all its own decals.
Nicky Custurdtits decided to part with a TNT Longfella ... and I already had had some interest my Pro the frame ... so I did the deal on mine and bought Nicks...
Speaking to Nick and then Daz who used to own it I had the full downlow on its history and prototype status ( due to its fat tubed rear triangle on a early Longfellow frame )
Here's the frame as Daz got it ...
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and how Daz built it ...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/n258/ODFLYER/100_1700.jpg)
and Nick's advert which one me over :-)
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I got it built up quick as my daughter was keen to get riding but I've got some plans to stamp my own mark on this frame :smitten:
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It looks sweet Ed...what have you got planned? I prefer the new decals :daumenhoch:
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Nice!
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It's a knocking bet I'll regret selling this. :-\
Looked cool in candy blue... maybe the forks are still chrome underneath Ed. ???
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I've got some plans to stamp my own mark on this frame
What scratches from where you fall off it!
Lovely buy this Ed, I dithered over it for a while too. Bet its proper comfy to ride
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Its a 10 from Len :daumenhoch: and me :4_17_5:
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I've got some plans to stamp my own mark on this frame
What scratches from where you fall off it!
Lovely buy this Ed, I dithered over it for a while too. Bet its proper comfy to ride
You'd never reach the bars pixie boy :-)
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I've got some plans to stamp my own mark on this frame
What scratches from where you fall off it!
Lovely buy this Ed, I dithered over it for a while too. Bet its proper comfy to ride
You'd never reach the bars pixie boy :-)
I have to concur, I'd look like those 7 year kids you see that've stolen their dads Cube mtb from the shed and are trying to ride it while looking cool
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It looks sweet Ed...what have you got planned? I prefer the new decals :daumenhoch:
new decals are coming :-) I didn't like either of the old style decals
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Nice ed
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It looks sweet Ed...what have you got planned? I prefer the new decals :daumenhoch:
new decals are coming :-) I didn't like either of the old style decals
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Where you found them Ed... was looking for a set of them for ages. :-\
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dib dobs when you sell it Ed!
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:LolLolLolLol:
That looks really nice Ed, we racing at MK then??
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Now that would be fun to watch!
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don't watch Olly, blag a ride and join in the fun :daumenhoch:
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No thanks I rode that track, literally 10ft and slid out! Taking skin off my knee! I got burnt and learned my lesson lol
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dib dobs when you sell it Ed!
noted LOL
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It looks sweet Ed...what have you got planned? I prefer the new decals :daumenhoch:
new decals are coming :-) I didn't like either of the old style decals
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Where you found them Ed... was looking for a set of them for ages. :-\
A guy had a NOS set of the ones on my other TNT on US ebay for silly money ... I got intouch with him and he offered me these which I snapped up :4_17_5:
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It looks sweet Ed...what have you got planned? I prefer the new decals :daumenhoch:
new decals are coming :-) I didn't like either of the old style decals
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Where you found them Ed... was looking for a set of them for ages. :-\
A guy had a NOS set of the ones on my other TNT on US ebay for silly money ... I got intouch with him and he offered me these which I snapped up :4_17_5:
Nice one. :daumenhoch:
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Looking forward to seeing this one come together. These bikes ride awesome as well. :smitten:
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No thanks I rode that track, literally 10ft and slid out! Taking skin off my knee! I got burnt and learned my lesson lol
Bit top heavy?? ;)
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:LolLolLolLol:
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Come back for another ogle of this lovely bike. I had two white bikes, I painted one and sold the other, this TNT would fill a void in my collection. Giz a go Ed...... :-X
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Come back for another ogle of this lovely bike. I had two white bikes, I painted one and sold the other, this TNT would fill a void in my collection. Giz a go Ed...... :-X
Your white one slipped into the soon to be created void left by this one benny boy. :LolLolLolLol:
What's the plan Ed... repowdered. ???
And whatever you say please don't say yellow cos you got them stickers. :angel:
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Leave it white please!
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Come back for another ogle of this lovely bike. I had two white bikes, I painted one and sold the other, this TNT would fill a void in my collection. Giz a go Ed...... :-X
Your white one slipped into the soon to be created void left by this one benny boy. :LolLolLolLol:
What's the plan Ed... repowdered. ???
And whatever you say please don't say yellow cos you got them stickers. :angel:
Yellow 'cause I got them stickers :laugh:
Not :LolLolLolLol: I was toying with baby blue ...
But I'm gonna make Ben happy ... its staying weiss :coolsmiley:
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:LolLolLolLol:
That looks really nice Ed, we racing at MK then??
sounds like a plan Rob :daumenhoch: might be up for that
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It's a knocking bet I'll regret selling this. :-\
Looked cool in candy blue... maybe the forks are still chrome underneath Ed. ???
Its nice but looked a bit Hutch ... not seen any other blue ones tho?
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It's a knocking bet I'll regret selling this. :-\
Looked cool in candy blue... maybe the forks are still chrome underneath Ed. ???
Its nice but looked a bit Hutch ... not seen any other blue ones tho?
There are a few metallic blue TNT's floating around in various threads on the museum. Quite an unusual colour for TNT's.
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From memory, the forks had the common tyre rub on the inside of the legs which is why I got them powdered. I was a bit of a mid race bike slut and I have never enjoyed riding anything more than a TNT. The only thing that came close was a factory team hyper (once again, with fatter stays) but the TNT still blew it away
Enjoy the build, its one of those frames that looks fast standing still, awesome bikes :daumenhoch:
just thought i'd add that the exact team hyper has appeared in the for sale section, what are the chances of that?
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"mid race bike slut" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
but in a good way :LolLolLolLol:
I love your buildz Daz ... always have always will ... between you and MSJ its a fuukin high bar set for anyone building a mid race bike
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Just picked up some TNT wheels from the states ... stoked :4_17_5:
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Just picked up some TNT wheels from the states ... stoked :4_17_5:
That's a long way to go to pick up some wheels,
You should have just got the seller to ship them ;D
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Just picked up some TNT wheels from the states ... stoked :4_17_5:
That's a long way to go to pick up some wheels,
You should have just got the seller to ship them ;D
you should be in Leicester at the comedy festival Paul ;D ;D ;D ;D
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(http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/img_6500_zpsaj9es3bv56ce146677_blowup.jpg)
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Nice hubs Ed. :daumenhoch:
What are the rims. ???
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ive just put some blue label TNT hubs on my TNT ;)
gotta love a set of TNT hubs :smitten:
are they hollow axles Ed ???
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Nice hubs Ed. :daumenhoch:
What are the rims. ???
Arayas I think
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ive just put some blue label TNT hubs on my TNT ;)
gotta love a set of TNT hubs :smitten:
are they hollow axles Ed ???
they don't look like it Paul? are they supposed to be?
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Nice hubs Ed. :daumenhoch:
What are the rims. ???
Ukai rims :daumenhoch: probabaly gonna rebuild on my Sun Chinooks :angel:
(http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/img_6506_zpsfhiboqoj56ce1471e5_blowup.jpg)
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ive just put some blue label TNT hubs on my TNT ;)
gotta love a set of TNT hubs :smitten:
are they hollow axles Ed ???
they don't look like it Paul? are they supposed to be?
The early TNT hubs were hollow axles, mine are the same as these (blue label) but have hollow axles
I'm sure MSJ will be along to put us right as he is the man with the knowledge ;)
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As with all Mid School history exact change over dates are a bit sketchy, but below is the info I pieced together while building my HFD. Also keep in mind that hardly any of these hubs have survived with all their original hardware, although Ed your hubs look like they have got proper 90's hardware including nuts and washers. :daumenhoch:
The very early TNT hubs (pre 90's) had hollow axles and were USA made (24tpi). They shared hardware with brands like GT and DK (as well as others). Both your guys hubs appear to be late 80's as the have the flat TNT logo on them. Pic below is for decal reference as hardware isnt original.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v513/standardracer/Brentpics005.jpg)
The 90's versions had solid axles and were still USA made (24tpi). These had the same hardware as Crupi, JP, Hyper etc. The decals on these had the 3d TNT logo.
(http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/tnt3_copy10_blowup.jpg)
In the early 2000's TNT stopped making Revolvers and Derringers. They started back up a few years ago but the shells are slightly different now and the hardware is 26tpi (Made in the east). These have no decals and the new TNT dynamite logo etched on them. The old decals also dont fit nicely on the new version as the flat area in the middle is different widths. Original TNT hubs are the same front and rear.
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee232/FREESTYLE-FREEK/TNT_REVOLVER_HUBS_zps9a0ba628.jpg)
They also recently made a batch of the first gen hubs that look like son lites but thankfully have made some subtle changes to these as well.
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Mine are the same as the top picture of Jon's. Large flange (revolvers) with red TNT stickers but solid axle in 24tpi.
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Love posts like this, superb knowledge Jon :4_17_5:
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got a few bits to go but nearly done ... I'm LOVING the new decals
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Looks spot on Ed. :daumenhoch: :smitten: :smitten:
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Looks great Ed... knew I'd be spewing once I'd seen it built. :LolLolLolLol:
I planned on getting it powdered yellow with them decals originally but couldn't find any... ya jammy tw@t. :tickedoff:
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Looks stunning Ed :daumenhoch:
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is there any difference in these Derringer hubs other than the decals?
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Looks spot on Ed. :daumenhoch: :smitten: :smitten:
Cheers Jon ... I'm seriously stoked on it ... it just wasn't happening for while ... then I had a result in finding the decal set that I wanted that had a more 90s look AND scored a TNT wheelset ( Derringer hubs on chrome Ukai rims )
I'm just after a set of pedals and a micro adjust post to get it finished ... think I'll need to get the cranks powdered white as they are in a bad way even for survivors :angel:
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The blue labels look like they've got more machined sections than the red labels... or maybe it's just the angles. ???
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is there any difference in these Derringer hubs other than the decals?
Hub shells are the same. Early reds might have hollow axles but generally speaking the only difference is the decals. :daumenhoch:
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is there any difference in these Derringer hubs other than the decals?
Hub shells are the same. Early reds might have hollow axles but generally speaking the only difference is the decals. :daumenhoch:
Jon the decals on my hubs ( red ) are peeling and I have replacement decals ( blue ) to match the frame ... would you leave them ( carefully gluing them back down ) or use the new ones?
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is there any difference in these Derringer hubs other than the decals?
Hub shells are the same. Early reds might have hollow axles but generally speaking the only difference is the decals. :daumenhoch:
Jon the decals on my hubs ( red ) are peeling and I have replacement decals ( blue ) to match the frame ... would you leave them ( carefully gluing them back down ) or use the new ones?
Do what works for you Ed. :daumenhoch:
I know what its like to have a build that is so close to being done, and how a little thing like that can make or break it. At the same time I only refinish things if they have already been refinished by a previous owner, as I know how hard it is to find original stuff these days. Its a tough call that we all have to choose between so just go for what you feel is best for the bike.
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Nice bike Ed ;)
Leave the original hub decals on buddy as they say "it's only original once " :daumenhoch:
And FFS get some hollow axles ;D :LolLolLolLol:
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That looks awesome, lovin the decs :daumenhoch: I think white cranks would spoil it tho :-\
Is the crossbar on those bars butted/tapered?
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Nice bike Ed ;)
Leave the original hub decals on buddy as they say "it's only original once " :daumenhoch:
And FFS get some hollow axles ;D :LolLolLolLol:
why would I replace the original axles? ;D
"1991 TNT DERRINGER HUB.
Durable, High Quality, Precision, High Performance, Flip Flop, Bright Dipped & anodized for long life, Equipped with Hollow or Solid Axles, Available in 28 and 36 hole patterns. Made in the USA."
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That looks awesome, lovin the decs :daumenhoch: I think white cranks would spoil it tho :-\
Is the crossbar on those bars butted/tapered?
the bars are butted/tapered Daz :daumenhoch: I think they are GT bars ... I like 'em :daumenhoch:
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is there any difference in these Derringer hubs other than the decals?
Hub shells are the same. Early reds might have hollow axles but generally speaking the only difference is the decals. :daumenhoch:
Jon the decals on my hubs ( red ) are peeling and I have replacement decals ( blue ) to match the frame ... would you leave them ( carefully gluing them back down ) or use the new ones?
Do what works for you Ed. :daumenhoch:
I know what its like to have a build that is so close to being done, and how a little thing like that can make or break it. At the same time I only refinish things if they have already been refinished by a previous owner, as I know how hard it is to find original stuff these days. Its a tough call that we all have to choose between so just go for what you feel is best for the bike.
I'll keep 'em original them ... I'm sure I can stick 'em back down ok :angel: cheers Jon
so happy with it :slayer:
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Ed, Bike looks awesome.
I managed to re-glue a Hula Hoop decal, Removed with lighter fluid, Old glue removed with lighter fluid and re-stuck using spray mount :daumenhoch:
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Ed, Bike looks awesome.
I managed to re-glue a Hula Hoop decal, Removed with lighter fluid, Old glue removed with lighter fluid and re-stuck using spray mount :daumenhoch:
sweet - cheers Gaz ... I will try that on the edges that have lifted 8)
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Frame & Fork : 1991 TNT Prototype Longfello
Wheels : Red label TNT Derringer hubs laced to Ukai 36h rims
Bars : GT
Seat : Selle Turbo
Grips : Jive Handles with Jive donuts
Tyres : Cheng Shin 2.1 front and 1.75 rear
Seatpost : early Primo Rod
Brake lever : DC Tech77
Brake : Odyssey Pitbull
Pedals : Odyssey Tripple Trap
Cable : Odyssey Slic
Cranks : GT Profiles
Chainwheel : TNT
Chain : Izumi
Stem : TNT
Headset : Tioga Beartrap II
Seatpost clamp : Odyssey Posi-stop
Extras : Ron C Headwrap / Sharp lever grip
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My thanks go to Nick Custardlips for parting with the frame, forks and seat ... MidschoolJon for the inspiration to build sexy race bikes ... Olly for the stem ... Nic for the peds ... Lenny Lentini for the Primo post ... and everyone who's comments helped drive the build :daumenhoch:
I thank you all ... now I'm off for a razzz!
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Ed that is 'Super smashing great. Ooh I could crush a grape!'
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thanks Lee ... and no its not for sale :surprise:
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Love it Ed. :smitten: I woulda kept it if i coulda found that decal set. ???
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Looks great :daumenhoch:
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thats Lee ... and no its not for sale :surprise:
not ever or just not at the moment?
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thats Lee ... and no its not for sale :surprise:
not ever or just not at the moment?
yes :-*
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Real nice is that Ed :daumenhoch:
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No fat pegs "nono"
Quite like it though :daumenhoch:
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Looks great Ed.. :daumenhoch:
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Nice one Ed, it would look much better in my garage or in my hands at bolehills. :daumenhoch:
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Nice one Ed, it would look much better in my garage or in my hands at bolehills. :daumenhoch:
hahaha ... its too short for you Hightower :surprise:
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Ha ha, too short!!
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Ha ha, too Spen!!
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I like that a lot
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Very nice bike! Enjoy your ride :daumenhoch:
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Beautiful :4_17_5:
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Beautiful :4_17_5:
Thanks Carl :-)
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Not bad, I've seen worse :daumenhoch:
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Amazing work ed looks incredible, can I nick a lap round mk on it ;D
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Amazing work ed looks incredible, can I nick a lap round mk on it ;D
yes mate of course ... if you can prize it out of NosepickBen's hands :slayer:
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That's really nice Ed, white bikes look so cool :daumenhoch: Is that my old pitbull on there?
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That's really nice Ed, white bikes look so cool :daumenhoch: Is that my old pitbull on there?
yes mate :-) it was pefik fistblump
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That's really nice Ed, white bikes look so cool :daumenhoch: Is that my old pitbull on there?
yes mate :-) it was pefik fistblump
Stoked it ended up on such a rad bike! :daumenhoch:
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That's really nice Ed, white bikes look so cool :daumenhoch: Is that my old pitbull on there?
yes mate :-) it was pefik fistblump
Stoked it ended up on such a rad bike! :daumenhoch:
big cuddles for you at MK ... has your daughter seen The Little Prince yet?