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Title: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on March 14, 2016, 02:26 PM
Is this the way these days to sell your BMX items?

Ask a set price per person, times it by 59, leaving you with, what seems to be more than you would have got for it by placing it up for sale, and everyone is happy, right?

Although I see a lot of people asking, for what I feel, is a lot more than what the item is worth, it seems to work, doesn't it?

What are your thoughts, if any  ???
Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: CustardLips on March 14, 2016, 03:20 PM
Anybody who partakes in such raffles is aiding and abetting these greedy cnuts.   Thumbs down
My thoughts are stay well clear.  ???
Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: nosepickben on March 14, 2016, 03:33 PM
Anybody who partakes in such raffles is aiding and abetting these greedy cnuts.   Thumbs down
My thoughts are stay well clear.  ???

Agreed. Unfortunately, for the right items, there will be people queueing up to get a 'bargain', then probably selling it on.
Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: Retrodan72 on March 14, 2016, 04:04 PM
Anybody who partakes in such raffles is aiding and abetting these greedy cnuts.   Thumbs down
My thoughts are stay well clear.  ???

I raffled my Dyno Compe, the baby blue one. £10 a go, 49 numbers, £490 back.

I donated £100 to the Macmillan Nurses, so it meant I got £390, about £60 or £70 less than it cost to build.

Hardly greedy.
Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: kalex on March 14, 2016, 04:26 PM
There's a few sides to it.

It's hard shifting a complete but at 1/59 th of the price people will have a go

The actual winner gets a bargain.

I can see why sellers do it and why others buy the tickets

So people that are against it never take part in phone in to vote etc game shows and the like as they make profit off that.

Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: CustardLips on March 14, 2016, 05:07 PM
Anybody who partakes in such raffles is aiding and abetting these greedy cnuts.   Thumbs down
My thoughts are stay well clear.  ???

I raffled my Dyno Compe, the baby blue one. £10 a go, 49 numbers, £490 back.

I donated £100 to the Macmillan Nurses, so it meant I got £390, about £60 or £70 less than it cost to build.

Hardly greedy.

My comment wasn't aimed at you Dan... more so that Terry said "bmx items" which I'm guessing means parts. ??? If that is the case... raffling parts for over inflated prices is taking the piss.  "nono"
Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: griff on March 14, 2016, 05:09 PM
not a fan tbh
Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: Retrodan72 on March 14, 2016, 05:21 PM
Anybody who partakes in such raffles is aiding and abetting these greedy cnuts.   Thumbs down
My thoughts are stay well clear.  ???

I raffled my Dyno Compe, the baby blue one. £10 a go, 49 numbers, £490 back.

I donated £100 to the Macmillan Nurses, so it meant I got £390, about £60 or £70 less than it cost to build.

Hardly greedy.

My comment wasn't aimed at you Dan... more so that Terry said "bmx items" which I'm guessing means parts. ??? If that is the case... raffling parts for over inflated prices is taking the piss.  "nono"

Nice back-pedalling Nick.  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: pickle on March 14, 2016, 05:21 PM
I prefer raffles you can fix  ;)
Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: factory pilot on March 14, 2016, 06:17 PM
Not seen a lot of it about .. But then I'm not on FB etc

I liked Dan's raffle and the raffle prize for Cleethorpes was one of my all time favourites ....
It's not always about greed.

Completes can be a pain in the arse to shift and are usually sold at a loss to the builder/owner so why not?

Raffling parts ... That is a step too far IMO... That's a different matter.

The raffle idea should be a bit of fun and a win win situation for all involved.

Just saying like ....
I guess if there's been a ton of these on FB then it would just get very tired very quick

Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: dancetothedrummersbeat on March 14, 2016, 07:14 PM
I've nothing against it as such. The seller sets the ticket price, and if there isn't enough interest, they have the right to either refund or wait until every ticket is sold.  You buy your ticket and take your chance, but obviously the odds are massively stacked against you. If you do win, I think it's upto you what you do with it regarding splitting etc. Why should you feel guilty? If your asking price for the individual parts is too high, they won't sell.  Everyone has paid the same amount per ticket, and the draw is fair, so it's not like there has been behind the scenes dealings/sob stories trying to knock the asking price down for a complete (didn't this happen at MK the year before last?) - Someone giving a cock & bull story about his son wanting a bike, and it then appeared on ebay the same week. I don't know the precise details, but it sounded dodgy. Bad form within a community such as ours  "nono"

Not sure I would go down the raffle route, but it can be a good way to shift a complete as Dan plus a few others like Paul and Gaz H have done. They also made a complete or partial contribution to a local charity/good cause. Hats off to them  :4_17_5:, although it's upto the individual why they want to sell/what they do with the proceeds
Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: Skate71 on April 02, 2016, 07:53 PM
I have joined a few Old School BMX Facebook pages today - can't quite believe what I am witnessing.

The raffling of Old School BMX's has turned into an epidemic.

How can people be asking for a combined monitory value via 59 tickets - which actually surpasses the value of the bike, even if split!!!???

An example witnessed today - a £200 bike, 59 tickets sold for £10 = £590.00 - Less £100.00 charity donation = a bike valuation of £490.00. You could not split this particular bike twice and expect to bring in £490.00 for it.

Thinly disguising the blatant profiteering by giving a token gesture % to charity does not cut it for me.

Its a disgrace  :(
Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: griff on April 02, 2016, 08:15 PM
I have joined a few Old School BMX Facebook pages today - can't quite believe what I am witnessing.

The raffling of Old School BMX's has turned into an epidemic.

How can people be asking for a combined monitory value via 59 tickets - which actually surpasses the value of the bike, even if split!!!???

An example witnessed today - a £200 bike, 59 tickets sold for £10 = £590.00 - Less £100.00 charity donation = a bike valuation of £490.00. You could not split this particular bike twice and expect to bring in £490.00 for it.

Thinly disguising the blatant profiteering by giving a token gesture % to charity does not cut it for me.

Its a disgrace  :(

I'm on very few FB groups so not seen this myself
Doesn't sound like I'm missing much here  Thumbs down
Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: pickle on April 02, 2016, 08:18 PM
Must feel very strong about it to make it your first post  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: dancetothedrummersbeat on April 02, 2016, 11:54 PM
 :welcome to rad by the way  :)
Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: Skate71 on April 03, 2016, 09:04 AM
:welcome to rad by the way  :)

Thanks for the welcome, I find navigating the forum somewhat non fluid, so tend to use the RAD facebook page more.

Just working my way around here, love the technical and powder coating section  8)

Title: Re: Bonus Ball Raffles
Post by: CustardLips on April 03, 2016, 09:29 AM
:welcome to rad by the way  :)

Thanks for the welcome, I find navigating the forum somewhat non fluid, so tend to use the RAD facebook page more.

Just working my way around here, love the technical and powder coating section  8)

Stick with it mate and :welcome to Rad.  :daumenhoch:
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