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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: Picklez on September 04, 2016, 08:12 PM
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Hi Guys, got these in with a deal on one of my frames. Not being knowledgeable with these bars I wondered whether anyone could help id the age etc for me. As far as I know they could be anything from gen 2 (post vdc) right up to 2016's, so any insight would be much appreciated:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/j230/picklez69/IMG_5005_zpsrrekutxd.jpg) (http://s81.photobucket.com/user/picklez69/media/IMG_5005_zpsrrekutxd.jpg.html)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/j230/picklez69/IMG_5006_zpsw9gbbggt.jpg) (http://s81.photobucket.com/user/picklez69/media/IMG_5006_zpsw9gbbggt.jpg.html)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/j230/picklez69/IMG_5009_zpsqnyllyqx.jpg) (http://s81.photobucket.com/user/picklez69/media/IMG_5009_zpsqnyllyqx.jpg.html)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/j230/picklez69/IMG_5010_zpsx6qexqff.jpg) (http://s81.photobucket.com/user/picklez69/media/IMG_5010_zpsx6qexqff.jpg.html)
Thanks.
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Those look like mid to late 80's ones, however they have no knurling which suggests very early ones?
Is there any stamping on the ends?
Has the knurl been removed?
The very early bars had a flat bend at the bottom, bit like Star Bars, no knurl
Then a straight knurl, bit more curved at the bottom
Then diamond knurl with more curve again.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks buddy, great info & very helpful.
Just had a much closer look at them, it's difficult to say for certain as the powder is quite thick. Couldn't be 100% without stripping them but I can't see any evidence of stem area knurling or bar end stampings ('Pro' etc). Interestingly on the frame I got in the same deal (pre serial pro racer) I can make out the brake bridge stamping - just. So maybe there is no knurling etc, just wouldn't want to bak on it. Stem clamp area is quite crimped at the back, much like lots 80's bars suffered when young gorillas over tightened their stems (of course never did that myself BITD :whistle:). Just trying to get an idea on age etc to understand whether it's worth sorting the stem area and storing them away for later or just leaving them etc.
Got some early 80's log bars I could offer them up against (sweep, bend radii comparisons etc) but they're buried deep in the loft and was being lazy, trying to save climbing through the mounds of cack I have up there to find them.
Thanks again :4_17_5:
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Looking at them again,and taking into account the Hutch frame, they are probably mid 80's gen3, they would have had the chequered flag style decal.
Deffo worth keeping as is, chroming and sorting out the crimp would be uneconomical in my view.
Decal em up and use them!
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I've got a set that need i.ding Andy... I'll post a pic later see what you think. :daumenhoch:
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I think the stamping was introduced after GT bought the company in the late 80s.
By way of reference, here's my first generation ones:-
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/Trident393/BMX%20Stuff/Kyodo%20awa%20odori%20163.jpg) (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/Trident393/media/BMX%20Stuff/Kyodo%20awa%20odori%20163.jpg.html)
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I think the stamping was introduced after GT bought the company in the late 80s.
By way of reference, here's my first generation ones:-
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/Trident393/BMX%20Stuff/Kyodo%20awa%20odori%20163.jpg) (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/Trident393/media/BMX%20Stuff/Kyodo%20awa%20odori%20163.jpg.html)
those Bars though!!gimme!!! :shocked:
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They make your grips look funny :teef:
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They make your grips look funny :teef:
I'm not keen on them myself due to that reason. Each to their own though and all that. A good score, and great info coming from radsters in the know :daumenhoch:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/af3/dancetothedrummersbeat/images9A1VBJ1P_zpsposbw8pu.jpg) (http://s988.photobucket.com/user/dancetothedrummersbeat/media/images9A1VBJ1P_zpsposbw8pu.jpg.html)