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Title: Hard anno? ... or not! as the case may be :-)
Post by: ED209 on January 23, 2017, 06:58 PM
I've got some Primo cranks.

Not painted as Synstrip won't touch them.

Not normal anno as Oven Pride won't touch it.

I know you can get 'Hard Anno' ... so what will shift that?
Title: Re: Hard anno?
Post by: dancetothedrummersbeat on January 23, 2017, 07:15 PM
I've got some Primo cranks.

Not painted as Synstrip won't touch them.

Not normal anno as Oven Pride won't touch it.

I know you can get 'Hard Anno' ... so what will shift that?

I bought a bullseye powerdisc a while back that was hard anno. Neither oven pride or super strog caustic soda would touch it. I was getting it re-chromed anyway, but thought i'd do the prep/polishing to save time and money with the chromer. In the end i had to get hockley chrome to strip it and then prep and chrome it. Might be worth giving them a quick call if nobody else can help you out. Might either be acid or some kind of reverse electrolysis method to sort it out. If you need to contact Hockley, ask for Lee  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hard anno?
Post by: Spen69 on January 23, 2017, 11:43 PM
I think there was a head gasket stripper that shifted it? Don't wander off and leave it or your cranks will be a blob of disolved alloy though..... :shocked:
Title: Re: Hard anno?
Post by: ED209 on January 24, 2017, 02:16 PM
I think there was a head gasket stripper that shifted it? Don't wander off and leave it or your cranks will be a blob of disolved alloy though..... :shocked:

no worries on that front S=dawg ... they are cromo :-)
Title: Re: Hard anno?
Post by: oldtired on January 24, 2017, 05:43 PM
cro mo?   not  alloy type ?   
Title: Re: Hard anno?
Post by: boofy44 on January 24, 2017, 09:58 PM
Can't ano chromoly.
Title: Re: Hard anno?
Post by: griff on January 24, 2017, 11:32 PM
Are you sure they're not powdercoated?
Some powdercoats can be tricky according to this old thread
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=154189.0
This one mentions gasket remover
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=175026.0
Title: Re: Hard anno?
Post by: MartyC on January 25, 2017, 04:27 AM
You can't anodise steel...

http://www.finishing.com/374/71.shtml

Any pics of the cranks Ed?
Title: Re: Hard anno?
Post by: ED209 on January 25, 2017, 11:28 AM
thanks for the feedback lads ... I was thinking that about anno as well

they are deffo steel ... Synstrip didn't touch them tho ... I'll get some pics up

 :)
Title: Re: Hard anno? ... or not! as the case may be :-)
Post by: BrianP on January 25, 2017, 12:35 PM
Are these Primo Excel cranks Ed?
Might be more like a black electro plate finish, as I remember these had the Primo logo etched into the arms?

Brian  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hard anno? ... or not! as the case may be :-)
Post by: ED209 on January 25, 2017, 02:50 PM
Are these Primo Excel cranks Ed?
Might be more like a black electro plate finish, as I remember these had the Primo logo etched into the arms?

Brian  :daumenhoch:

Thats the badgers Brian :-)

Pics below ... it seems to be a finish over chrome?

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/16358751_10158245091285599_2104745558_n.jpg?oh=c2926546f97025d55f9d6ab872d4f141&oe=588ACF97)

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/16358389_10158245091800599_1938978394_n.jpg?oh=070cb7d72268189b91dedcfc76fd4708&oe=588BD98D)

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/16244099_10158245091510599_88657199_n.jpg?oh=b081d0e2fa5b05d55f8d6d1686036aef&oe=588AAB23)
Title: Re: Hard anno? ... or not! as the case may be :-)
Post by: Spen69 on January 25, 2017, 04:14 PM
No chance Ed, that will need reverse chroming to remove it mate. I think it's a colour added at the chroming stage not put in the lacquer finish afterwards  :-\
Title: Re: Hard anno? ... or not! as the case may be :-)
Post by: oldtired on January 25, 2017, 06:23 PM
spen may be right,  looks like a chemical process,     ed if you've got one, try a brass wire brush in a drill on the pedal boss in the pic, where it's damaged ,if it brings the black off , then i can get em shiny for ya ,by cutting em back with polish,    those directors Lman had off me had only been prepped ready to shine up ,  first cut, provided the chemical finish is on the surface of the chrome then they will polish up ,   tbh it looks surface applied , on top of a basic chrome, or possibly nickle plate  :-\
Title: Re: Hard anno? ... or not! as the case may be :-)
Post by: ED209 on January 26, 2017, 08:52 AM
its deffo a finish over the chrome as they have worn in 3 layers ... the black has worn to show the chrome .. then the chrome has worn to show the bare metal.

They must have been ridden well to wear through the black finish, then chrome ... down to bare metal.

I kind of like that so I might just leave 'em :-)
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