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Title: original condition vs restored
Post by: ameobic dysentry on September 28, 2006, 03:29 PM
'ello there,

Got to say that I do prefer the look of survivor bikes before they get all done up, powdercoated with shiny new tyres that will never touch dirt again.  Its just a personal preference but I think that when they are in their original state with all the scratches, random stickers and mismatched parts, they reflect the history of the bike better - they all tell a story about the history of the bike and I think it is a shame when it all gets painted over/replaced.  I can understand a restoration if the bike is totally wrecked, but otherwise I think it can be kinda cool to keep it how it is.  Anyone got any bikes from back in the day that haven't been restored back to the impeccable factory spec?  I've posted this in the freestyle section cos I like all the random parts that you used to get on freestlyers ie mismatched tuffs, all sorts of clashing colours and parts, that accumulated over the life of the bike.
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: jimmyp on September 28, 2006, 03:33 PM
I agree up to a certain point, like to keep all my bikes as original as poss ie parts ext  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: SaMAlex on September 28, 2006, 03:51 PM
I agree. i was just about to start stripping down a frame to get it re-painted but then I was looking at some pics of when I rode it and thought it would be better to keep it looking the same. I need to get hold of the same parts I used back then but its easier now cos Im not trying to make a bike that looks like new, just that looks like it did when I rode it, even down to the stickers of the time.
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: harris on September 28, 2006, 03:52 PM
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/colour060.jpg)
one in question and i do agree to a point but some just need to be rebuilt this is boarder line.
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: greentoad on September 28, 2006, 03:56 PM
Dan

Don't you dare.....if you touch that, the history and soul of that bike will be lost forever.

Think about all the stickers, how could they ever be replaced or replicated. And I doubt very much if you could get a lot of the parts / items undone without them snapping / breaking / rounding off. The seat clamp is a one off with the rough sawn edges too, plus all the drill holes, welds etc etc.

 :10_2_12:

J.
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: harris on September 28, 2006, 03:58 PM
only messin mr toad   :D  its stayin as it is.  :)
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: ameobic dysentry on September 28, 2006, 04:10 PM
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/colour060.jpg)


Mega!  I love it!
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: DR VINOAH on September 28, 2006, 04:18 PM
i would rather walk on broken glass bare footed

than see harris restore that genaration uno haro :4_17_5:

im gonna petition the UN ,and have the H man put under house arrest :daumenhoch:

i have the same predicament with the MXII ,im doing for me neighbour

i would leave it as i found it,

 like this

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/f278/vin501/whole-bike-two.jpg)


,but i wanna have a go as well

and the owner,wants it looking like this

 (http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/f278/vin501/johns-bmx-1.jpg)

but i dont think thats 2 drastic a change between the two pix :angel:

and back to rOm its home :4_17_5:

for some lazy sunday sessions
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: brass monkey! on September 28, 2006, 04:22 PM
Dan - they should put that bike in the TATE mate !!  ;)

Its a work of art !!
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: Stodgy on September 28, 2006, 04:24 PM
What, you mean like this:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/gt_resto_2.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/gt_resto_1.jpg)
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: DR VINOAH on September 28, 2006, 04:28 PM
ps

dans haro if not already

should be one of radbmx,s mascots

along with the 24K gold hutch and some others i cant think of @ the mo :angel:
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: harris on September 28, 2006, 04:28 PM
cool ass performer im likin that as it is or was..who remember this it was a pos when it arrived deffo restoration the bench mark house hold paint styley.
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/Image743-1.jpg)
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: ameobic dysentry on September 28, 2006, 06:40 PM


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/gt_resto_2.jpg)

I like this alot Stodgy - many thanks for the photos everyone

Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: Steve P on September 28, 2006, 06:55 PM
I'd like to get my hands on that Gen1 and restore it . . . hefty project with the gusset weld though I do like a challenge

Give me first dib dobs if you decide to sell it Dan :daumenhoch:

Steve
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: Waxintaxin on September 28, 2006, 07:05 PM
Difficult one

A bashed up frame that means nothing to me is screaming to be restored  but i ride them and all the scars are my scars so i guess that counts a bit

Rich :)
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: othomas2 on September 28, 2006, 10:27 PM
Probably not what you are looking for but.... here's my only survivor.

Totally agree with what you are saying too.  ;)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v665/othomas2/P1030399.jpg)
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: gmac on September 28, 2006, 11:08 PM
Nowt wrong with either restored or original, but you can't beat a decent survivor  ;)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d158/gmac-01/IMG_0772.jpg)
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: SaMAlex on September 28, 2006, 11:30 PM
I saw that gen 1 when it was being sold, then the guy put up some pics of him riding it way back. The bike was exactly the same! It was so cool. It really made me sad that he was selling it. I dont know the guy but it was almost like he was selling the photos of his youth. He cant have needed the money or the space that bad!
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: DR VINOAH on September 28, 2006, 11:44 PM
Nowt wrong with either restored or original, but you can't beat a decent survivor  ;)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d158/gmac-01/IMG_0772.jpg)

thats real sweet guy :daumenhoch:

"swoop" rupe testing the pro class two four

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/vin501/rupe-and-proclass-twofour.jpg)



Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: Bob_Acid on September 29, 2006, 03:35 AM
i like the best of both worlds. At MK this year we had them all; the show and shine bikes restored or NOS plus all the NOS parts about looking like an 80's bike shop but with the untold survivors and semi restored riders laying about covered in track dirt it looked like any track or trails would have. i just love milling about soaking in all that nostalga  :daumenhoch:

I'd hate to see all the  mingėrs restored as much as i'd hate to see all the NOS and restored bikes used and abused. The balance looks about right from where i'm sitting :)

I love it all me ;)


Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: Reggie on September 29, 2006, 10:18 AM
cool ass performer im likin that as it is or was..who remember this it was a pos when it arrived deffo restoration the bench mark house hold paint styley.
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/Image743-1.jpg)

Damn that looks like some 14 years old school metalwork project... YUK!
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: harris on September 29, 2006, 10:23 AM
yes your right but wave the magic  stick and ha presto   :LolLolLolLol:.still a strange one thou.
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/new034.jpg)
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: ameobic dysentry on September 29, 2006, 11:35 AM

(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/Image743-1.jpg)

Yep I think this one does qualify for a resto - I think when a bike has been painted with red hamerite it has lost its 'original charm'. 
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: Coastvl on September 29, 2006, 01:21 PM
You've all seen these before but here they are. Both are survivors of mine from early on in life. Some new bits like grips and tires but thats about it. The supergoose now has new AME"S too.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v108/coastvl/bike%20bits/bikes040.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v108/coastvl/bike%20bits/2006-07-17005.jpg)
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: duncan on September 29, 2006, 01:42 PM
Fantastic!
Your climate over there can only help to preserve them too.
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: harris on September 29, 2006, 01:43 PM
they look great i have a pair of them but need to build m up .yours have just got me thinking   you git and im to busy my head will be banging now hunt hunt hunt . :LolLolLolLol: .
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: DR VINOAH on September 29, 2006, 02:15 PM
gotta say the supergoose with the bottema,s

still rocks ,i love it

i said i love it.................. :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: region11 on September 29, 2006, 02:16 PM
My TA.  Last addition it had was a pair of Jive grips back in 94.  I am gonna get it re chromed, cos its all flaked at the headtube and its a bit dull.  but it's still cool.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v260/hutch1970/Skyway076.jpg)

Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: OrgasmDonor on September 29, 2006, 02:57 PM
Difficult one

A bashed up frame that means nothing to me is screaming to be restored  but i ride them and all the scars are my scars so i guess that counts a bit

Rich :)

second that, i build my bikes as riders so i do mix n match to get the best feel of the bike and so its up to the job in hand
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: selfpreservation on September 30, 2006, 05:34 PM
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/colour060.jpg)
one in question and i do agree to a point but some just need to be rebuilt this is boarder line.
thatll look nice when its finished :smitten:
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: RATTY on September 30, 2006, 07:21 PM
Most of my bikes look like the haro....
All the NOS big buck bikes are nice but they are bikes, your ment to ride em, not hang em on the wall...

Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: oberonspacefruit on September 30, 2006, 07:34 PM
aaah..there just bikes
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: jT Racing on October 01, 2006, 07:35 PM
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/j87/townytownsend/P7020006.jpg)

if they make it on thier own, leave em as is.
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: harris on October 01, 2006, 07:39 PM
i must admit there do seem to be alot turning up in the last month or 2 .i mean riders just get on and go type ,where have they been hiding ,must be the indian summer .that kuwey is amazing condition as was daves gen 1 just needing a good clean.i hope to find one soon you lot cant have all the luck   :)
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: danny silverstreak on October 01, 2006, 07:41 PM
sell me the haro harris  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: Dingobmxer on October 01, 2006, 08:03 PM
I bought this and someone has buchered the dropouts so I have had to make spacer washer thingies to mount the rear wheel safely,
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/bike25.jpg)
I thought about having the dropouts fixed then restoring the bike with nos parts and decals ect ect ect... but then I wouldnt be able to do this with it
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/DSC_0599.jpg)

which in my eyes would be sacrilige
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: RATTY on October 02, 2006, 12:18 AM
Well said dingo..I crashed my proline today...much more fun than hanging it on the wall :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: DR VINOAH on October 02, 2006, 12:41 AM
Well said dingo..I crashed my proline today...much more fun than hanging it on the wall :daumenhoch:

ouch :angel:
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: Dingobmxer on October 02, 2006, 07:36 AM
I hope you and the bike werent too badly hurt Ratty?
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: RATTY on October 02, 2006, 08:52 AM
I hope you and the bike werent too badly hurt Ratty?
 :) DINGO :)
The bikes ok, a few scratches, but its not show finish anyway, my shoulder and knee are killing this morning but compared to some peoples injuries on here mine ranks a 1/10. I met Zippy dixon yesterday at Braintree, he is just recovering from a broken wrist...get well soon  mate :)
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: Frosty on October 02, 2006, 11:44 AM
Different horses for courses

Here's one of each, the rebuilt from the start of my revisit to bmx bought as a rusty frame only, laserlite and a survivor GHP that has just had some survivor XC II pedals put on it!

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y91/frosty_paul/GHP/GHPKuwi.jpg)

Must admit I'd rather get that Gen 1 refurb'd, just because I love the replica bikes built by Dave et al :smitten:
Title: Re: original condition vs restored
Post by: zed4130 on October 02, 2006, 01:18 PM
Im with you ratty i still ride and my every day bike is a dk 6pack and its been every were last trip was spain in the boot of our bar i had a right laugh over there hot dusty and no rain .my old diamondback is nearly all original i changed the tires and pedals and brake blocks as didnt want to ware them out .I love these old bikes a bit like bmx's in barns. :uglystupid2:
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