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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: snav69 on November 06, 2006, 11:30 PM
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Just got this outside of ebay (naughty naughty) but can't make up my mind what it is.I will post my own pics tomorrow but would like an expert eye over the ebay listing for it.When i got it home i started to give it a bit of a polish and under the gusset there is remains of red paint.Would redline have painted over chrome or do you think someone decided to paint it ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&item=200042797235&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
Cheers Guys , looks like i'm on an info trip today :LolLolLolLol:
Paul :coolsmiley:
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Ref. his update on the auction .........
I told him it was'nt a PL20 , I said it was maybe 600a or MXII . I asked him to measure the headtube & it should be 4 inches .
Matt
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I'll measure the headtube in the morning :daumenhoch:
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Also the fork type looks MX :daumenhoch:
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Matt, im sure that bike was listed earlier this year, and I emailed him then to tell him...perhaps he thought I was mad, oh yeah, I am :tickedoff:
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Matt, im sure that bike was listed earlier this year, and I emailed him then to tell him...perhaps he thought I was mad, oh yeah, I am :tickedoff:
:LolLolLolLol:
You're not mad Tony , the seller was :crazy2:
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If you look at his feedback its the first thing he bought on ebay :coolsmiley:
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well spotted paul, I probably mailed the original seller then!! (see matt I am Nuts)
still a nice bike, check the serial number to see what year it is, deffo mx style forks..and was there graphite tuffs mentioned somewhere.
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Heres the thread i set up about the graphite tony
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=22362.0
I will look for the redline serial thread and see what turns up
Paul :daumenhoch:
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Here it is after i have changed some of the parts that were on it , as you can see in picture 5 there is the remains of red paint under the gusset.Also in picture 3 you can see that there is no triangle strenghtener bit that i understand is on the 600a.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/n164/snav69/Redline1.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/n164/snav69/Redline2.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/n164/snav69/Redline3.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/n164/snav69/Redline4.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/n164/snav69/Redline5.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/n164/snav69/Redline6.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/n164/snav69/Redline7.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/n164/snav69/Redline8.jpg)
I look forward to your replies :daumenhoch:
Paul :coolsmiley:
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i am liking redlines more and more :daumenhoch:
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Don't think it is a Series 3 102B frame (600a) as they should have the little gusset behind the seat tube/rear upper stays as you say and as mine has
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Paul another beautiful Redline.
Why are they so overlooked, we seem to be getting more by the week which is good.
I love a redline me!
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It sure does look nice in the flesh Jim , Just haven't got a clue what it is yet :-\ somebody will know what it is :daumenhoch:
:coolsmiley:
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redlines are class, you can keep your hutches and your proclass gooses (well perhaps not proclass ::)
Snav that is one great looking bike, well done
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That's nice... how long is the top tube?
The rear drop outs are tidy, notice the the rounded tube ends... Proline stylie
600cxl... nice :daumenhoch:
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Cheers Bren , i will measure the top tube tomorrow .Does the 85 at the beginning of the serial indicate the year?? as the serials i have seen on redlines (80's ones) start with R then another letter for the year . I will see if i can find anything on that 600cxl you mention. :daumenhoch:
Paul :coolsmiley:
Could only find this on the WWW http://www.23mag.com/mags/bpl/bpl86.htm , they did a test on the 600cxl in the april edition but showns no piccys :(
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http://ajkbikes.com/downloads/catalogs/catalogs.htm (http://ajkbikes.com/downloads/catalogs/catalogs.htm)
If your interested in selling or trading the frame set let me know :daumenhoch:
85 for 86? not sure...
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Thanks for that Bren , only got the bike on sunday so it may be a while before its sold , but i will let you know when i get shut :daumenhoch:
Paul :coolsmiley:
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i hope you aint stripped parts off yer bros prostyler for that one ;)
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Naahh mate , the prostyler is boxed up and sealed and won't be seeing daylight in quiet a while :LolLolLolLol:
:coolsmiley:
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identifying frames is fun, part of the mystic of collecting from years ago when the numbers didn't matter unless you needed them to give to the cops to get it back after some scum stole it. stickers are useless cause anyone can put em on. looking at as many examples of the same thing seems to be the best way cause most frames had their own peculiarities. here's my thoughts on your frame.
i'm thinking it's a 1985 MXIII. it wouldn't be earlier due to the bends along the bottom of the drop out. there's no BB cross brace. it's a 4" head tube with correct forks.
the 600 was the full moly frame but with a little gusset above the brake bridge on the seat tube. i'm not 100% sure but i think the 600's had the serial stamped on the rear drop outs. if i'm incorrect please don't shoot, maim or kill me.............it'll mean that i'll have learnt something as well.
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/redline/734
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/redline/1215
having said that, you've built a very fine example of what i think were the best bikes of their time. redline of course.
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Interesting stuff. Trying to identify a frame is good fun :) , i love the not knowing , how old , what model , is it rare etc etc i love learning off other restorers and hopefully we will all hit a common ground as to what it is :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
Paul :coolsmiley:
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Bren , I just measured the top tube and centre to centre it is 19 1/2 " (approx) Hope this helps :daumenhoch:
Paul :coolsmiley:
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v337/2elliot/600cxl2.jpg)
600cxl...
Trade for a PL20 frame set?
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Bloody Hell , a pl20 . I would love to in the future mate as i have only just got it , but rest assured that you will be the first person i contact when i do.Do you think i should re-powder the front section red ?? as it looks like thats what it used to be or should i just leave it ?? there is dulling/lifting of the chrome around the BB but not rust (if you know what i mean) . it was probably caused when they tried stripping the paint.
Thank You again Bren , its very much appreciated.I have never seen a 600cxl and probably won't see another as i never knew there was one :LolLolLolLol:.
Paul :coolsmiley:
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Snav, dont seem so expensive now, perhaps the find of the month??? :daumenhoch:
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Brenn, as ever, got it! :LolLolLolLol:
he is the redline guru.
Looks like a great find you have there Paul. I've never even heard of the 600cxl.
But glad to see another Redline. There seems to have been a real spate of the lately.
As Tony said they are a class bike. Just got a real air of beauty and class.
lets all go find some more.
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Got mine last night Jim :smitten: Nikky accused me of drooling over it last night, she must be mad :2funny:
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Got mine last night Jim :smitten: Nikky accused me of drooling over it last night, she must be mad :2funny:
is she sure it was just drool ::) ::) ::)
Hurry up and get it posted , I need to see it :)
Jim you are right about the redlines , very sleek and dare i say it , sexy :-[
:coolsmiley:
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Tony, will you be quiet about that PL :'(
Get it built up for the ride on Sunday mate. I wanna see it in the flesh. :daumenhoch:
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Do you think i should re-powder the front section red ??
Can do, I was liking the green... for a bit of a change.
BMXStop do the decals or you can get them on ebay, I think they are on the RL20 II sheet. Not sure how good they are though...
Did you down load the 1986 lit on the link I posted, check out the 800pl, you can see where the powder stops and the chrome starts :daumenhoch:
It will be mine... oh yes ::)
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Cheers Bud , Yes i downloaded the catalog :daumenhoch: .I think it would be good to get it back to how it should be , even though it looks very very nice in chrome it should be red up front . I will probably take it to the powder coaters next week.
So Bren , is it an unusual bike to see ie - not common , i wouldn't ask if it was rare as even though i have never seen one don't mean that there aint loads knocking around :) .
Your help and information has been priceless , Big Thank You :4_17_5:
Paul :coolsmiley:
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REDLINES RULE ill be riding mine in less than a week :smitten: :daumenhoch: :laugh:
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Yes, it's the 1st one I've seen over here, been a few on Ebay.com but they don't go for big money... it's from era that time forgot ;)
MXII sort of or less, but a lot more unusual :daumenhoch:
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excellent info bren. i didn't even know that model existed, or if this was a world wide model or marketed in a particular continent. i wonder if it was a later version of the mxII/III with a fancy paint job. so many unknowns is what it's all about, good fun.