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Title: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 26, 2005, 06:09 PM
Okay... I am leaving myself wide open to Burner Abuse here but hey!! You were kind about my Ultra Burner so maybe you will be kind on these...

Finished these in time for last Saturday's Burner Bash @ Billing Aquadrome, Northampton.

MK2 Team Replica Burner

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/IMG_0756.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/IMG_0757.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/IMG_0755.jpg)

Please be nice...  :-[ :-[ :-[

This one might not be everyone's cup of tea... (or can of tango!!)

MK1 Custom (Beard1973 Burner)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/IMG_0747.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/IMG_0740.jpg)
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: theRuler on September 26, 2005, 06:51 PM
i'm not a fan of the later burners but the old ones stir up memories!!!

is your "daily ride" a burner? i mean do you hit up the bowls on the ultra?
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: scary_leary on September 26, 2005, 07:07 PM
As usual beard, lovely attention too detail.
I love the care u take right down to the correct picture angles.

My ultra is ready for building up (just waiting for the correct forks  :) ) orb?...also got a heron badge last nite.

Sorry didn’t make it too the bash, I was originally collecting parts from radmans and going on too the bash..but the parts weren’t ready, so I never made it…been closer too Blackburn then I’d loved to have gone.
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: motomagII on September 26, 2005, 08:37 PM
team burner very nice mate .the other im afraid nasty .worse than the tango ads that is .julians colours are really nice would love to have seen it at the bash .
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 26, 2005, 09:24 PM
the other im afraid nasty .worse than the tango ads that is .

Hey.. Thanks for your honesty dude.. Nasty or not? she won Best Mk1 Custom at the Bash!  8)

http://www.vert-ego.com/gallery%202nd%20%20Burner%20bash%20Billing%2005.htm

Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: dordymush on September 26, 2005, 09:27 PM
man how tall are you.you must be 8 ft with them seat posts.love that team burner though.
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: theRuler on September 27, 2005, 08:13 AM
is your "daily ride" a burner? i mean do you hit up the bowls on the ultra?
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 27, 2005, 09:33 AM
I have a Mk2 Cromo that I would call my 'daily ride'... though I did build the 'orange' beard1973 Burner as a daily rider...

Never more than a casual rider, so never hit the bowls... though I guess its never too late to start!!  ;)
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: Stodgy on September 27, 2005, 10:19 AM
Lovely builds Beard - you do go the whole mile and it's good to see 'em!
 :)
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 27, 2005, 10:23 AM
Lovely builds Beard - you do go the whole mile and it's good to see 'em!
 :)

Thanks Stodgy... Appreciate your comments!  ;)
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: pickle on September 27, 2005, 10:25 AM
I'm with TheRuler with Burners, like the early ones but the later areo style ones didn't do alot for me.

Round my way (me included) the only original part Burners had on them were Tuffs, the rest was all copy stuff  :)  council estates hey, don't you just love em!  :)

My MK1 GS ended up snot green with blue Z rims, then blue tuffs......copy CW bars (yes they all ended up with them!)  ;) but how i loved it!!   :D

Hated it though when you used to see kids riding around with the bars all the way back, or forward.....used to really wind me up!  >:(
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: theRuler on September 27, 2005, 10:40 AM
without sounding mean to burners, the reason i dont like the mk2's is this:

when i first got into bmx at 10 years old, any old unbranded crap would do. everyone had a burner, or an iron horse, or some piece of shit from a petrol station. but after a year or so of being into it, reading the mags, seeing the good bikes, we knew what was good and what was baloney. raleigh jumped on the aero tube bandwagon, and it just seemed corny.

however good the mk2 burner was, "burner" always meant cheap poorly designed bikes to us, so not many were into them (compared to the hoards of people on mk1's).

times are different now. don't matter what's cool and what aint.
i remember riding a mk2 super tuff burner when i was about 13 (a friends bike)
it was a weighty giant rigid thing. it confirmed my view (at the time) of burners.

i'd like to try one now i am bigger (and stronger!) and see what they really ride like.

can't fault the workmanship on those burners though beardy boy.

whats the toptube length on the mk1's btw? i remember them being super small (and thats when I was super small!)
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 27, 2005, 10:46 AM

can't fault the workmanship on those burners though beardy boy.


Cheers Ruler...!!  ;)

Oh and scary_leary... Its Beard.! Not Bread.!....

It was funny once... Now your offending my beard!!  ;D
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: theRuler on September 27, 2005, 11:04 AM
although i remember seeing marvin "540" browne on a mk2 burner on bmx beat, i dont remember ever seeing anyone compete on a mk1 burner.

and for some reason, mk1 burners make me think of kids with really big heads.

if i see one i will buy it though!

yo breadbeard do you consider the mighty raleigh vektar as a collection piece?
a kid over the road from me had one, the same time i had my fox 4styler.
it had a radio!
mind you i had GT wheel discs. we were both fruity on so many levels
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 27, 2005, 11:45 AM
I wouldn't collect Vektars but I know a guy who does!!  :D

A few other pics for your Burner Loving Viewing....

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/IMG_0762.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/IMG_0760.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/IMG_0749.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/IMG_0753.jpg)

Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: theRuler on September 27, 2005, 11:54 AM
bet you use daz on them pads!

love the decals on the orange burner
good job bro.

was there ever a cromo mk1 burner, in that shape?
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 27, 2005, 11:58 AM
Mk1 Cromo... Not mine (sadly)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/burner6.jpg)

Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: theRuler on September 27, 2005, 12:00 PM
but not in the shape of the gusset one?

there's a project for ya.

copy a mk1 burner frame, using 531 tubing, so it looks burner, but is strong and light.

better yet - do it in aluminium. what a repro that would be.
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 27, 2005, 12:11 PM
My build skills are limited... But its an interesting idea!!  ;)

Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: theRuler on September 27, 2005, 12:19 PM
i bet you have a mk1 burner frame or 2 spare that you could carefully cut up to make patterns
before you cut them, make jigs.

then buy the material and find a good welder!!!

you would be the burner lord.
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 27, 2005, 12:24 PM
Its a cool idea... be a one off thats for sure...!!

If I was to undertake that project.. I would give u some recognition for proposing the idea!  ;)

The Burner Lord... I like it...!!  :D
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: Stodgy on September 27, 2005, 01:10 PM
Hey Beard - let's see a pic of the whole collection together...how many have ya got now? The builds I've seen of yours are some of the best of any brand and you should be very proud of what you have achieved.

Seeing the Burner pics really brings some strong memories/emotions back - my first BMX was a Super Burner (with a lovely flaky gold finish)...learning endos and wheelies...oh, happy days!  :)

I agree with you that the Burner bashing really needs to stop. Raleigh bought BMX to the masses and has to be responsible for the explosion of popularity in the early 80's.

It's companies like Raleigh, with all their corporate spend, who are able to build markets which can then sustain the smaller niche brands.  So, by building bikes with huge economies of scale and passing those savings to the customer, they encouraged people to 'sample' the sport before investing heavliy in trendy brands.

We all have a lot to owe to Raleigh - most people on RadBMX must have owned one at some point and, after all, where would we be without Andy Ruffell, Sam Woods on the mic and all those early Burner pics in Action Bike and on the TV?

Come on guys, give the bashing a rest and appreciate what Beard and the rest of the Burner boys are doing. None of you can deny the passion and attention to detail that goes into these builds.

Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: theRuler on September 27, 2005, 01:23 PM
burn 'em off with a burner
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 27, 2005, 01:57 PM
The Collection (so far!!)  8)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/1Group.jpg)

Sorry pic is a bit small.. Photobucket keeps reducing it!!..  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: SAND N DIRT on September 27, 2005, 06:50 PM
Due to the amazing(!!) pictures I am more and more for this brand although it is still not JMC hihi...,
but that 1st picture is VERY fresh for sure. Well done!

I think you are happy now, not?

 ;)

Could you please be so kind to post pictures of that black and gold one? I almost think that one is the definition of os bmx for the uk! I mean that positive btw.
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 28, 2005, 09:57 AM
Just for you sander...  8) 8)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/eb489c36.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/Picture010.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/Picture008.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/Picture009.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/Picture014.jpg)
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: theRuler on September 28, 2005, 10:00 AM
i want that ultra

where do you live?  ;)
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 28, 2005, 10:32 AM
Sunshine Capital of South Yorkshire............. BARNSLEY...  8)
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: theRuler on September 28, 2005, 10:34 AM
no i mean whats your address and what times are you out?

(http://students.washington.edu/mtilley/images/burglar.gif)

 ;)
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 28, 2005, 10:37 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: theRuler on September 28, 2005, 10:57 AM
post pics of the extra burner!!
i like that too!
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 28, 2005, 11:02 AM
This was my first complete resto...

Sprayed the frame and forks myself with the old Aerosol's  ;)
Faded effect took some mastering but was chuffed with finished article...

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/DSCF0004.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/DSCF0002.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/DSCF0006.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/DSCF0005.jpg)

Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: theRuler on September 28, 2005, 11:03 AM
good job with the rattle cans beard!

if i get a burner f and f i will paint it like that!!!
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: SAND N DIRT on September 28, 2005, 12:23 PM
Why are they so clean?
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 28, 2005, 12:36 PM
Because dirt would make them EVEN heavier!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: theRuler on September 28, 2005, 12:57 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: jon016847 on September 28, 2005, 01:53 PM
Not big into burners myself, But I have to say - you have done an amazing job on those and asthetically they look the business,

I love seeing a group of bikes together, but most of yo know that already

So how many burners do you need to complete the full set ?

Jon W
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 28, 2005, 02:06 PM
Well.... I am a long way off..!!!

Mk1 - Red
Mk1 - Blue
Mk1 - Blue Tuff
Mk1 - Super
Mk1 - Super Tuff
Mk1 - Night
Mk1 - Extra                       ---DONE---
Mk1 - Chrome
Mk1 - Ultra (Black)            ---DONE---
Mk1 - Ultra (Silver)
Mk1 - Cromo (Tange)
Mk1 - Pro Burner

Mk2 - Red
Mk2 - Blue
Mk2 - Blue Tuff
Mk2 - Super
Mk2 - Super Tuff
Mk2 - Night
Mk2 - Chrome
Mk2 - MAG Burner
Mk2 - Ultra (Black)
Mk2 - Team Replica       ---DONE---
Mk2 - Cromo (Raleigh)  ---DONE---         
Mk2 - Cromo (Tange)
Mk2 - Aero Pro
Mk2 - Team Aero Pro

Julian Taff has 21 Fully Restored Examples... And they are breathtaking...

Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: jon016847 on September 28, 2005, 02:22 PM
WOW that is some goal !!

My JMC goal was one of every frame 20" model  03rd Generation's, you are goiing for model and colour and generation !

That will keep you going for a bit !!!

Keep us posted on the progress !

I
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 28, 2005, 02:26 PM
I haven't got the resources to do every model... I hope to build 10 bikes in total.. I have 6 completed inc a Mini Burner.

Bits are so hard to find now, as everyone will agree, and most bits are running out fast or ALL GONE!!  :(

Thanks for your praise on my builds.. Having seen your amazing collection it comes as a Real compliment..

Cheers Beard1973 (Dave)
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: theRuler on September 28, 2005, 02:42 PM
i'll keep my eye out for burner stuff for you.
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 28, 2005, 02:43 PM
Cheers Ruler..!

Try Pkradmans Skip!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: Stodgy on September 28, 2005, 03:25 PM
Hey Beard - saw this and thought of you...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RALEIGH-BURNER-V-BAR-PAD-SKYWAYHUTCH-OLD-SCHOOL-BMX_W0QQitemZ7185927942QQcategoryZ22677QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Any good to ya?
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 28, 2005, 04:05 PM
Thanks Stodgy...

I do an hourly scan of eBay for all things burner!!  ;)

Sad... I know...  :D
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: BuffaloUK on September 30, 2005, 02:19 PM
The builds are very good and I'm in no way am criticising them - but I really do not like burners, too heavy and with some of the worst geometry ever seen on a BMX bike; as for building one out of good materials wouldn't that be a waste of tubing?

Seriously good job on the builds, of course it is each to their own.

Has anyone done a build showing how the burner would have been set up for everyday riding with huge CW copy bars set waaaaaay forward, eeww, it make me shudder at the thought.
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on September 30, 2005, 02:35 PM
blah blah blah....  :-X
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: mileyboy on November 09, 2005, 10:56 AM
hi beard - could you post a picture of a rear dropout off one of your aero pro's please-i'm trying to id a frame-and i really hope its an aero pro-where did they stamp these frames?
thankx
mileyboy
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: beard1973 on November 09, 2005, 11:40 AM
Hi Mileyboy..

Here is a pic of the rear drop out on Aero Pro Frame.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/IMG_0896.jpg)

Frame is stamped under Bottom Bracket

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/IMG_0897.jpg)

Hope these help with ya frame ID problem.. ;)
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: mileyboy on November 09, 2005, 06:29 PM
thanks mate-no help tho but great photos!
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: dordymush on November 10, 2005, 08:02 PM
that drop out looks like a fish  ???.
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: kusam on November 10, 2005, 08:04 PM
Lol...it does too...a pike  :o
Title: Re: Latest Burner Resto's..
Post by: theRuler on November 11, 2005, 02:27 AM
a 3 eyed fish?

called . . . . blinky?
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