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Title: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: jimwise68 on January 07, 2007, 11:11 PM
I've got a pro-racer (or I thought it was) so has Hooga75, we noticed today that the frame sizes are different. does anyone know the different geometries of the hutch range (Pro Racer, Raider,Pro Star, Expert etc)?

thanks

Jim
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: winnit93 on January 07, 2007, 11:24 PM
pro racers and pro stars are the same frame just different components
try johans site http://users.pandora.be/jjrbmx/hutch/HUTCHfactory.html
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: daz bmx it! on January 08, 2007, 07:55 PM
The Top tube on mine was 18 1/2" it was an Expert Racer ;)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b270/daz1969/dazpic090.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: jimwise68 on January 08, 2007, 09:06 PM
I found this on a Hutch website:

http://users.pandora.be/jjrbmx/hutch/HutchSizes.gif (http://users.pandora.be/jjrbmx/hutch/HutchSizes.gif)

Gonna go out with the tape measure!  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: jimwise68 on January 08, 2007, 11:02 PM
Right, I've been out with the tape measure and here are the sizes, can't measure the angles of seat post and headtube though.

TT = 19"
TT outer diam = 1"
Downtube outer diam 1 3/4"
BB Height = 11 1/4"
Chainstay length = 14 1/2"
Wheelbase 35 3/8"

Which means it could be either a Pro Racer or a Hollywood. It has the wheelbase of the Hollywood but the rear seat stays aren't welded below the TT like the Hollywood. It also has no serial number and i think the hollywoods had serial numbers as they were later. The other thing is that it has holes drilled inthe forks which the Pro Racer didn't. They may be forks added later.

I'm all confused, but it does seem to be a Pro Racer.

Anyone shed any light?
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: mark j on January 08, 2007, 11:38 PM
From what I've sussed out the frame numbers started late '83 and hollywood's came out in '85. But on the first hollywood ad the seat stays are in line with the top tube not below........  ??? And the pro racer forks from '84 were drilled but not on the pre-serial......mix-n-match?????
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: jimwise68 on January 08, 2007, 11:43 PM
It must be an early pro-racer with later forks then.
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: jT Racing on January 09, 2007, 11:41 AM
i think hutch had less of a clue than we do. Bit of a cowboy organisation that hutch was.
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: RATTY on January 09, 2007, 11:15 PM
Jim, its an obvious snide!!! Bring it to me and I will dispose of it for you  :angel: Dont want snides on this site
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: mark j on January 09, 2007, 11:52 PM
I noticed last night the seat stays on my hollywood are parrallel with the top tube....... ??? Maybe it's an eastern fake? A hutch bollywood :LolLolLolLol:

Well I thought it was funny.......

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v213/mikamagic1/hutch1-1.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v213/mikamagic1/hutch2.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: RATTY on January 09, 2007, 11:55 PM
Mark I will extend my offer to you as well, send it down to me, and I willdispose of it for you  :angel:
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: LXIX on January 09, 2007, 11:56 PM
i see hutch pedals  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: mmm yum yum how much?
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: mark j on January 10, 2007, 12:03 AM
Mark I will extend my offer to you as well, send it down to me, and I willdispose of it for you  :angel:

If you can get me a hamster that will live forever Tony I'll swap you, I'm sick of the heartache..... :'(
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: LXIX on January 10, 2007, 12:04 AM
ill do you a tortoise for the pedals,ok?
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: RATTY on January 10, 2007, 12:11 AM
Mark I will extend my offer to you as well, send it down to me, and I willdispose of it for you  :angel:

If you can get me a hamster that will live forever Tony I'll swap you, I'm sick of the heartache..... :'(
Mark, next time get the sproggs a "degu" live up to 6 years and a lot more intelligent than a hamster. or go the whole hog and get them a pot bellied pig!!!!
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: mark j on January 10, 2007, 12:28 AM
I haven't got kids Tony, the hamster's for me and the mrs to replace them.  As for the pot bellied pig I've had one of them for a few years.....a bit of cake and sex in the city and she's happy. I'll have a look at a degu, thanks Johnny Morris   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: RATTY on January 10, 2007, 12:30 AM
Your welcome mate, you still got my address to send that snide too?  :2funny:
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: LXIX on January 10, 2007, 12:31 AM
wheres my fish food you have my adress ? ill swop you a bmx thing for tub of fish food tropical
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: RATTY on January 10, 2007, 12:32 AM
wheres my fish food you have my adress ? ill swop you a bmx thing for tub of fish food tropical
Mark, pm your addy again, i will sort a fishy treat out for you :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: LXIX on January 10, 2007, 12:37 AM
ill do it we can trade i have some nice bits that i dont need that will come in handy
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: RATTY on January 10, 2007, 12:40 AM
nice one, lmk what sort of fish you have got as well.....
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: LXIX on January 10, 2007, 12:44 AM
they eat aquarian tropical flakes when i can be bothered to buy some ,somtimes they eat each other if i havent had time to get to the pet shop  :LolLolLolLol: :2funny: :2funny: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: Trev on January 10, 2007, 12:45 AM
somtimes they eat each other if i havent had time to get to the pet shop

 :LolLolLolLol:   :2funny:  :2funny:
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: RATTY on January 10, 2007, 12:51 AM
Oh Mark, the rspca will be round to sort it, FFS mate, if you cant look after the fish what chance has that poor CW got, send it to me now :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: LXIX on January 10, 2007, 12:54 AM
 :LolLolLolLol: they eat each other all the time even when i feed them  :idiot2: fish i have one that  cost £70 she is a chilid she eats  everything even stones and rocks  :shocked:
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: LXIX on January 10, 2007, 12:55 AM
talking about phaze 1 did you see the mad auction for jarrets phaze one in usa? it went crazy
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: LXIX on January 10, 2007, 12:57 AM
ill post the link if nobody saw it i know some did but they arnt talking about it for obvious resons  :2funny:
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: RATTY on January 10, 2007, 01:02 AM
Mark the fish are called cichlids "siklids", if they are over 6" big, you might wanna feed em more than flake food, thats prob why they chomping each other. And I did miss that stateside one so please post the link, thanks
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: Trev on January 10, 2007, 01:06 AM
ok i will be keep it between ourselves here ok?

and the 100+ people who've viewed this thread  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: Trev on January 10, 2007, 01:09 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270075213518&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting



so who is this?
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: LXIX on January 10, 2007, 01:11 AM
who who sold the frame? jarrett justice it got £1500 just for frame
Title: Re: Anyone know the difference of Hutch Frame dimensions and sizes.
Post by: Trev on January 10, 2007, 01:12 AM
who who sold the frame? jarrett justice it got £1500 just for frame

never heard of him.... but then again i wasn't a racer...
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