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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: mivvi on January 17, 2007, 10:52 AM
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I am starting to build my 84' Haro and not sure what stem should go on it? I have a couple of Group 1 stems but didn't they come later? I would prefer not to use a Group 1 as they are really heavy, im building this bike as light as I can. I also have the correct bars so don't really want to go down the one piece Vector bars route if poss. Any help would be great, thanks!
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b157/mivvi/DSC00305.jpg)
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Depends - are you going for 'factory complete' or just era correct?
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Doesn't really matter. I just thought when I bought the frame, perfect I have a group 1 stem. Then I realised how heavy they were!
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Tuf-neck
Pro-neck
Suntour
Anlun
Tioga
ACS
Sugino?
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Ah, plenty to choose from then,! ;D
Out of interest, what would have been the correct part fitted to an 84' leaving the factory?
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This do ya'
1984 Haro Master Factory Build Components
These components are the same for White and Chrome bikes
Grips: Oakley B2, Blue
Bars: Vector Bob Haro, Chrome
Stem: Redline Forklifter
Brakes: Dia Compe MX900, Annodized Blue with Tech 3 Levers and Green Cables
Headset: Hatta Alloy, Annodized Blue
Seatpost Clamp: Dia Copme Hinged, Annodized Blue
Seatpost: Anlun Layback Smooth, Chrome
Seat: Cycle Pro Shotgun II, Blue
Wheels: Skyway Tuff IIs with coasterbrake, alloy front hub, White
Tires: Cycle Pro Snakebelly
Cranks: Sugino CT 175mm, Chrome
Chainring: Sugino 43T, Annodized Blue
Pedals: MKS Grafight, Black
Paul :coolsmiley:
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Bars: Vector Bob Haro, Chrome
Stem: Redline Forklifter
Huh ???
Vector Bob's and a stem? ???
I think not. The bars are VC8's and the stem.....well ask Jay :LolLolLolLol:
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http://www.harofreestyler.com/master.html
I added the forklifter :-\
:coolsmiley:
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Out of interest, what would have been the correct part fitted to an 84' leaving the factory?
Sorry, I missed your post asking to know.
There has been some discussion on the stem. The first test of a complete '84 Master showed a Tioga stem, but it did say this would be changed for production. Jay has a test where the stem is quoted as being a Suntour Power stem and I must admit, I'm now coming around to this being fact. I thought that it was an Anlun (but not the same type as on the sport), but I think now the suntour makes more sense.
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Thanks Phil for your input and Paul for the Link that's damn handy to have. So what is the stem in the top pic? Here are the bars I will be fitting once chromed.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b157/mivvi/84Bars.jpg)
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Those bars on dan's '84 are VC8's and the stem is an Anlun (as supplied on the '84 Sports). If I remember correctly he used to have just Bob Haro bars on that '84 and has since updated the picture, but not the text.
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Dunno about a suntour stem but according to the 1984 haro catalog it was a forklifter , they probably changed it without notice :-\ , Like they do ;)
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The catalogue is a late '84 one - look at the picture, does that look like a forklifter?
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WOW , Attitude , did i say it was . Just stating what it said in the catalog . Is it not from 84 Like mivvi asked YUP it is .
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No attitude - just asking a question. Please don't read something into my posts that's not there, ok :daumenhoch:
The catalogue is from '84, but I've never seen a complete '84 factory picture with the forklifter stem. The forklifter stem had a potts mod and personally, I'd never put a pott's mod stem on an '84 - my opinion only of course.
Edit: I should re-phase that to say The forklifter stem had a potts mod and personally, I'd never put a pott's mod stem on an '84 unless it's a Redline RL20 - my opinion only of course.
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FYI
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/e250/Christmoose/Haro/00054.jpg)
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Handlebar Stem - Tioga (will be changed for production)
So what you getting at ??
I try and help someone out with information Provided by Haro and i get a nit picker picking at the slightest detail . No wonder people get fooked off and leave :crazy2:
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Group Hug Time (http://www.nordinho.net/vbull/images/smilies/ghug.gif)
I think you've both been making the same point and prove how difficult interpretation of the written word can be :daumenhoch:
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Group Hug Time (http://www.nordinho.net/vbull/images/smilies/ghug.gif)
I think you've both been making the same point and prove how difficult interpretation of the written word can be :daumenhoch:
I have no beef with anyone :daumenhoch: , just seemed like he (moose) was trying to put me down :'(
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Group Hug Time (http://www.nordinho.net/vbull/images/smilies/ghug.gif)
I think you've both been making the same point and prove how difficult interpretation of the written word can be :daumenhoch:
I have no beef with anyone :daumenhoch: , just seemed like he (moose) was trying to put me down :'(
I'm sure it was not intended that way, Moose is a top bloke and always very helpful :daumenhoch:
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I don't doubt that for 1 min Marty :daumenhoch:
I know he knows his stuff and has some great bikes , i just quoted from the haro catalog , thats all ;)
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Handlebar Stem - Tioga (will be changed for production)
So what you getting at ??
I try and help someone out with information Provided by Haro and i get a nit picker picking at the slightest detail . No wonder people get fooked off and leave :crazy2:
Mivvi, it's your bike, you put whatever stem you want to build it with
snav69 - When I build my bikes, I'm interested in detail (nit-picking as you call it), that's just the way I am and I'm not going to apologise for it.
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:daumenhoch:
I think there has been too much falling out over the past few days with various members , i don't want it to carry on with me at the wheel ;)
Lets just let it rest :)
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you pair of gays.
an SR stem will do ;)
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Hey, chill out lads. There was a lot of changes at the times of these bikes being built and a lot of different views on it. You have both given me all the info I needed and I appreciate the help. Shake hands and lets just get on with each other for the sake of this great hobby. Thanks again all! Mivvi. ;)
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you pair of gays.
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
:daumenhoch:
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I don't have a problem with anyone in this thread and am not falling out with anyone. Don't read any emotion into my posts as it's not there :daumenhoch:
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Forklifter's were on 85s...just to keep this going :LolLolLolLol:
Alright Marcus...awesome frame though...when are you seling it??? ;)
Cheers
Fraser
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Hey Fraz! How is it going fella? You looking after that 85' mate, or you still trying to find all the parts you need? Im after another 85' actually as I do miss it but it was too good to build up and ride, so after a scruffy one, well one day anyhow. Glad you like the 84' I have now, im well pleased but have only just got around starting to getting the parts for it. A long way to go but that's all the fun. Let me know how the build is going anyhow. :daumenhoch:
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The bars are VC8's and the stem.....well ask Jay
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Well come on Jay, you going to comment! ;D
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if you like a stem put the fooker on it
simple
Dave
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stick a suntour power on it thems still chep to
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This is mine............. If you are using those Haro bars , i would just build it as you would like , maybe close to factory spec , but with a few higher end parts , go for tuf/pro neck , maybe lose the white tuffs for blue /black ,just my thoughts , but its your build mate ..........
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/q66/harogenone/builds_2006_017.jpg)
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That's looking nice Jay, fair play. Im building it for my brother as he had one bitd and I found some of the original parts from his bike in my parents garage. The frame he sold but with Landing gears so I still got the original forks. We can't remember the original build he had but im going to go for a Tuf Neck as you stated. Had a slight heart attack when he mentioned it had black MX1000's on it! He doesn't know what the prices are like these days, lol. After some 3 piece Haro cranks or flights and he had Pro-class rims so I got a clearer picture of what im after now. Thanks for the pic Jay. :daumenhoch:
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Hello all !
In early 85 (february), the master had a silver Redline Forklifter pierced stem, blue Hatta headset, the bars were 71 or 73 centimeters Anlun 4130 chromed, it had Skyway II plastic hub white, Sugino CT 175 cranks, MKS Graphit X black pedals, blue DC MX 1000 with blue DC Tech 3 levers and green cable, blue Haro seat with Anlun cr-mo chromed hinged seatpost, Oakley B2 grips in blue with donuts, Panaracer national Freestyle tires, TYC chromed chain, blue DC MX seatclamp, etc... It was avalaible in white or chrome and the complete bike weighed 12,5 kilogramms. I'm not a French, but it was available like that in early 85 in France.