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Title: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 19, 2007, 06:07 PM
I have recently started to have a LOT of pain in my elbow, I cant think of an incedent where I banged it so am a little worried as to what is wrong?
I am struggling to grip my handlebars as the acute pain in my elbow makes it VERY uncomfortable.
Any ideas? Arthritus maybe?
I have a day off on the 30th so if it isnt better I will go to the Doctors then
Thanks
  DINGO
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: rory on January 19, 2007, 06:15 PM
sounds like tennis elbow , ive had adreneline injections in both and it worked instantly.
does yor elbow hurt when arm straight and say holding a cuppa, if so tennis elbow
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 19, 2007, 06:17 PM
I cant even straighten my arm, lifting anything or trying to cut cables at work just results in really sharp pain
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Superkav on January 19, 2007, 07:17 PM
Could be RSI from work or you might even have a bad back and the nerves are being affected. When I had a prolapsed disk I had anle pains too.
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 19, 2007, 07:22 PM
I can feel the pain directly in the elbow, it feels a lot like when I fractured my wrist years ago but like I said I cant remember banging it  :uglystupid2:
I am just worried cos right at this moment i cant ride any of my bikes,BMX/MTB or road bike as I cant hold on  >:(
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Geth on January 19, 2007, 07:26 PM
Loooong rest.
I had something similar years ago from working allen keys on bolts at work.
Had to swap hands for a long time!
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: selfpreservation on January 19, 2007, 07:33 PM
get one of them elasticated support bandages they help a lot
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 19, 2007, 08:24 PM
Got one of the, got it on at the moment, I have tried most things
Elasticated bandages
Tiger Balm
Lavender oil
Deep Heat
Ice packs
they all work with varying degrees of sucsess but if I stop using them it comes straight back  >:(
I think the only solution is a trip to the Quacks but I am VERY phobic of the Doctors in this country
 :) DINGO :) 
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: lazychubs on January 19, 2007, 08:53 PM
leave ya todger alone then lol   :P
i suffer from it in both elbows due to my job
i use ibuleve (spell check)
works real good
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Bob_Acid on January 19, 2007, 09:36 PM
Tennis elbow Mark, i had it for a couple of years, it's the reason Sandro stopped riding bmx's :(
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: LXIX on January 19, 2007, 09:45 PM
if you are a electrician its your tendons i have the same does your arm ock up at a point just befor straigt? if so its not tenis elbows but tendons
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 19, 2007, 09:51 PM
I am a Sparky  :shocked:
yes it locks up at the same point and fooking hurts like hell, although the lavender oil I have used on it tonight has eased it some
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: LXIX on January 19, 2007, 09:54 PM
 ;) im a sparky too have the same
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 19, 2007, 10:29 PM
so how do you deal with it Mark?
Its been about 6 weeks on and of and it diving me fookin nuts  :2gunsfiring_v1:
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: LXIX on January 19, 2007, 10:41 PM
i find if i rest it for a week or so try use my other arm for  a couple of weeks it comes right pain goes and seems to get get stronger , i  can now straighten it , i think to heal it total they have to cut the tendons and strech them,  dont need that but i can get by
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dark Diggler on January 20, 2007, 09:19 AM
so how do you deal with it Mark?
Its been about 6 weeks on and of and it diving me fookin nuts  :2gunsfiring_v1:
 :) DINGO :)

NHS direct on line, look up bursitis, (inflamation of the protective film that covers the joint-the busar)in most cases it goes away, but have a look and speak to yer quack :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 20, 2007, 11:55 AM
so how do you deal with it Mark?
Its been about 6 weeks on and of and it diving me fookin nuts  :2gunsfiring_v1:
 :) DINGO :)

NHS direct on line, look up bursitis, (inflamation of the protective film that covers the joint-the busar)in most cases it goes away, but have a look and speak to yer quack :daumenhoch:
Thanks dude I will check that out, I saw a tennis elbow support at the gym today but it was a small. I will get one in town later and see if that helps also
Thanks for the advice everyone and keep it coming  :daumenhoch:
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: zed4130 on January 20, 2007, 12:12 PM
sounds like old age dingo  :2funny: i have pain every were 'my missis says im a pain in the arse 'but i have no pain there yet  :2funny: but every thing ive done to my body hurts these days  :'( but thats life i suppose since ive broken most things  :2funny:
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 20, 2007, 03:51 PM
sounds like old age dingo  :2funny: i have pain every were 'my missis says im a pain in the arse 'but i have no pain there yet  :2funny: but every thing ive done to my body hurts these days  :'( but thats life i suppose since ive broken most things  :2funny:
Oh cheers mate  :LolLolLolLol:
Its deffo old age, I have had two motorbike accidents and lost count how many bmx/mtb accidents,I have been knocked out over 10 times and I guess its all catching up with me now  :rant:
BUT I dont wanna be on the scrao heap JUST yet so am looking to fix this problem so I can wait for the next one  :LolLolLolLol:
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Bob_Acid on January 20, 2007, 04:47 PM
we should call you Lucky Mark :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 20, 2007, 05:08 PM
we should call you Lucky Mark :)

 :LolLolLolLol: Cheers Bob,
I was just talking to Mirka about injuries and I have scars from every country I have ridden a bike in  :LolLolLolLol:
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: dev on January 21, 2007, 07:13 PM
YOUSE JUST AN OLD GIT!!! ;D.  but  seriously! I have broken both my legs, knackerd my crusiate ligaments and snapped the tibula plateau clean of one side of my knee so they hurt loads. I was told by a moto-x rider to try using glucosamine it alledgedly helps to restore/strengthen  the ligaments and and cartlidge around joints, bit sceptical but i now take 1 a day and although they still give me grief the improvement is great i dont limp around like a old git now :) give them a go it might help. Cheers dean
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: zed4130 on January 21, 2007, 07:47 PM
dingo's right thought add them up i bent my spine in 1987 broke my wrist twice broke' my rib cage '4 fingers '8 toes'the base of both my feet'twisted my foot backwards now got 2 plates and 5 pins' I think thats it  :2funny: bl##dy bikes  :2funny: Thats not including how many stiches ive got  :crazy2:
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: TwoBobRob on January 21, 2007, 11:59 PM
I'll agree with Geth;  it's a long rest thats needed, and/or a complete change of activity.  I had similar pains in both my elbows through a work related thing. I wasn't riding BMX at the time, it took 18 months to go away....  Now when I have more than a fortnight away from riding I get the pains back in my elbows, but it subsides after an equal amount of time.

As for work,  I now refuse to lift/pull beyond my ability. This has caused some problems, but I'll not now jeopardise my health for a job    :angrysoapbox:
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 24, 2007, 11:42 AM
STARTED TAKING GLUCOSAMINE YESTERDAY AND ALREDY ITS FEELING ABOUT 50% BETTER AND i NEARLY HAVE FULL RANGE OF MOVEMENT BACK  :daumenhoch:
Thanks guys oops caps lock
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Sanmarcopizza on January 24, 2007, 08:24 PM
Tennis elbow Mark, i had it for a couple of years, it's the reason Sandro stopped riding bmx's :(

Who said I quit LOL.

I am still suffering even though I haven't done anything for ages. A simple test to see if it's tennis elbow is to straighten your arm , if you can and stretch your fingers out straight. With the other hand apply pressure to the top of your fingers and try and lift them while pressing down. If its tennis elbow it will kill near your funny bone.

I have had 2 cortisone injections in each elbow. 3 of them worked but eventually it comes back. My advice if you do have a jab is to avoid using your arm for a week or so. It will feel better within 24 hrs, but unless you let it heal you may run the risk of a recurring problem.......like me.

As an alternative ice regularly, rest, ibuprofen and voltarol gel.
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 24, 2007, 09:15 PM
Thanks for the advice San,
yesterday I couldnt even lift the sugar container out of the cupboard with my bad arm but today I can after double dosing with the glucasomine but the pain is still there,
I wanna buy a tennis elbow brace but cant find one  :2gunsfiring_v1:
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: billstup on January 24, 2007, 09:33 PM
After trying your test San I have come to the conclusion that I`ve got tennis elbow too  :(
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Bob_Acid on January 25, 2007, 04:16 AM
it took about two years for mine to sort itself out   :(
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 26, 2007, 05:20 PM
bought a tennis elbow brace today, basically a 2" wide strap that you velcro round your arm and it takes the pressure off the tendons and it works  :smitten:
hopefully the tendons can rebuild themselves now they are not being stretched all the time?
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: billstup on January 26, 2007, 06:45 PM
Been to the doctors today, and it looks like I`ve just strained the tendon that goes from the wrist to the elbow, which is nice  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 26, 2007, 08:18 PM
good news Bill  :daumenhoch:
I am at the quacks on Tuesday so hopefully mine wont be major either (although strained tendon is bad enough  :( )
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: billstup on January 26, 2007, 09:25 PM
Mark it`s fooking killing me, I can hardly lift my cup of tea to my lips, but now I know what it is I feel a bit better about it  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Sanmarcopizza on January 26, 2007, 09:31 PM
Tennis elbow makes itself known where the tendon joins the bones on the outside of the elbow, near your humerous (funny bone). Bend fingers and cock wrist upwards whilst having your elbow bent and have a good press around the bones at the outside of the elbow. If it's sore there it is tennis elbow. Tennis elbow supports are designed to clamp the tendons before their attachment to the bone, thus deflecting strain away from the damage tissue. Just a bit more info for any/all of you. Golfers elbow is similar but is on the inside of your elbow. I have had both at the same time.
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 26, 2007, 09:42 PM
San I am pretty sure mine is tennis elbow  :2gunsfiring_v1:
Billy get some glucosomine and a brace, mine has worked wonders, two days ago I couldnt lift the sugar pot out of the cupboard, tommorow I hope to ride  :daumenhoch:
The strap works in the same way as a patella strap for all you footballers out there
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Sanmarcopizza on January 26, 2007, 09:43 PM
And are you actually going to ride next Weds ?
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 26, 2007, 09:49 PM
Yes mate, even if I have to dope myself up with pain killers, how about you?
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: billstup on January 26, 2007, 09:59 PM
San I am pretty sure mine is tennis elbow  :2gunsfiring_v1:
Billy get some glucosomine and a brace, mine has worked wonders, two days ago I couldnt lift the sugar pot out of the cupboard, tommorow I hope to ride  :daumenhoch:
The strap works in the same way as a patella strap for all you footballers out there
 :) DINGO :)

Went down the local Holland and Barrets and got 3 large containers of the glucosomine (360 tabs) yesterday after your earlier posts Mark, and have got a tubular support on between my wrist and upper arm which seems to be helping, also using Ibuleve gel 3 times a day.
The bird in Holand and Baretts said that the glucosomine takes up to 3 months to get it to the system, so I`m takeing 2000mg a day to speed it up a bit  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Sanmarcopizza on January 26, 2007, 10:04 PM
I can't speak for H&B but you need to buy quality vitamins & supplements. You may as well not bother takin cheap ones for what they do.
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: billstup on January 26, 2007, 10:08 PM
How can you tell if they`re good or not though San ?
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 26, 2007, 10:08 PM
Mine were £19 for 60!!!!!!!!!!!
I nearly fell through the floor mas I thought I had picked up the £5 ones   :LolLolLolLol:
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 26, 2007, 10:10 PM
mine are
glucosamine with omega 3 and also chondroitin
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: billstup on January 26, 2007, 10:24 PM
Mine should have been £36 for 120, but they had a special on and they were only £8.95 for 120, so I got 360 to last me the year out  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 26, 2007, 10:26 PM
Mine should have been £36 for 120, but they had a special on and they were only £8.95 for 120, so I got 360 to last me the year out  :daumenhoch:
Jammy Git  :LolLolLolLol:
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: billstup on January 26, 2007, 11:23 PM
Just for you Mark :

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v472/billstup/Photo-0129.jpg)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: dev on January 26, 2007, 11:57 PM
Sorry guys but can you really read the last 2 pages of this post without laughing, im in tears! you sound like a bunch of old gits!!!!! :laugh: Damn thinking about it we are ::)  Mark/bill gald the gluco helps, i am triple dosing next week, i have just for some stupid reason which aquired  a major bollocking from the missis bought home a honda cr250r motocrosser and entered a race next sunday all in a week! 1st race in 4 years. The mind is stong, the body thinks it is! Dev
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: billstup on January 27, 2007, 12:35 AM
You`d better see if you can get hold of some morphine then  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: tricknuts on January 27, 2007, 08:25 AM
had tennis elbow myself once...


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a322/tricknuts/IMG_3863.jpg)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: zed4130 on January 27, 2007, 08:27 AM
its all a pain 'my neck went thursday night at work i cant turn it now and it really hurts 'docs monday i suppose 'ive had it for years as bent my spine in 1987 so i get a lot of back problems  :'(  that goes to my neck  :'(
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: rory on January 27, 2007, 08:32 AM
 get the shots in elbow joints , they are free at docs !
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: zed4130 on January 27, 2007, 09:27 AM
get the shots in elbow joints , they are free at docs !
I wonder if they could stick that in my head  :2funny:
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 27, 2007, 12:48 PM
Just for you Mark :

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v472/billstup/Photo-0129.jpg)

now that is just showing off!!!!!
better send some over to Dev by the sound of it  :LolLolLolLol:
Just done a 2 hour cross country ride and could actually hold on to the bars so things are on the up  :daumenhoch:
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 30, 2007, 05:05 PM
Just got back from the doctor who said I can do pyhsio but it is basically what I do at work or leave it to heal naturally  :uglystupid2:
When I mentioned the injections she said "oh yeah we can do that I suppose" and then gave me a form where I have to go and buy the vial of drugs and come back for them to inject it,FFS what do I pay National Insurance for???
best thing is they only have one doctor who can inject it and they are away untill next week so I have to suffer another week  :2gunsfiring_v1:  :2gunsfiring_v1:
 :) DINGO :)
 p.s AND she said do I really want an injection because of the risk of getting an infection
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: rory on January 30, 2007, 05:47 PM
your doc is out of order , ive had two shots in each elbow and one in shoulder for free , the needle goes
about an inch in and with no anesthetic its not to bad, i have heard some places charge about £6 PER SHOT
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: billstup on January 30, 2007, 05:48 PM
Mine was really hurting after the Sunday sesh at Rom, but resting it the last couple of days seems to have helped  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Flaz on January 30, 2007, 06:53 PM
i had a quaterzone (spellcheck) for tennis elbow nearly 2 yrs ago  and it aint come back yet (touch me woody and whistle)

tennis elbow is rsi  and is common in painters,, apparently i can only have 1 more set of injections  :-\    then  ? ? ? ? change jobs 
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: rory on January 30, 2007, 07:09 PM
 me doc told me i can only have three in my life time ,so one more and its game over
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 30, 2007, 07:18 PM
I am a Sparky and told the Doc this is what caused it then she asked me if I play raquet sports  :tickedoff:
My shot is gonna cost me the price of a prescription  :tickedoff:
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Bob_Acid on January 30, 2007, 07:46 PM
I've had two qtrzone shots and i didn't have to pay for either of them. It was the same though in that i had to wait for a particular doctor to sort it out.

Mark get the shot sone as soon as, then wait a while before you go anywhere near your bike. it will be hard because the shots work quite quickly and you will think it's ok. TBH mine both went again after the shots but then i was back on my bike in about two weeks. It took acupunture to sort out my really bad left arm and acupunture is not something i ever want to have to try again. phisio helped a lot too and i still do it now before i go out on me bike. Which hasn't been that much lately  :(
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Sanmarcopizza on January 30, 2007, 07:49 PM
Mark, take my advice and go really easy on your arm once you have had the jab. I have said it once already but will say it again, you must lay off tearing into your arm cos it will feel better and quickly, but you can cause further damage. For the best results I would put it in a sling as much as possible to avoid the temptation to use it. Hard I know in your job, but for long term gain it will be worth it.  I went in to quickly after all of mine and now I am fooked.
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: se-bmxer on January 30, 2007, 07:55 PM
me doc told me i can only have three in my life time ,so one more and its game over
Fook me im a gonna then, i had tennis elbow for 2 years went to docs and he'd inject my elbow and if it didn't work then it was off to hospital for a larger injection
did this for 2 years then the consultant said ok we'll operate on it, when he was cutting my elbow open he said we should have done this a year ago  :idiot2:

I think i had about 12 injections in 2 years, but mine was a very rare case

Also my doctor is a mountain biker so he understands that i need to be back on my bike a quick as pos
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 30, 2007, 08:30 PM
Thanks for the advice guys, bike riding isnt what tears it up, its work that does that and I have been using a band/brace thing, using my left hand as much as possible and now use a battery screwdriver all of which helps massively, I dont use pain killers as they mask the pain and and only use lavender oil on the joint not any other gels ect..., I have suffered bad joints before and all of these things help me personally.
I am totally amazed that so many of us are affected by this particular injury and its never really came to light before,
maybe we need a common injuries thru BMX thread?
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Ow elbow pain, advice needed please
Post by: Bob_Acid on January 31, 2007, 04:14 AM
It's come to light loads of times before Mark, you just didn't take any notice :)
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