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Title: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: login_user on February 01, 2007, 08:57 AM: OK what is the visable differences between a mongoose supergoose3 (us) and a pro class, i thought that it was in the rear brake bridge holes on the super3 the outer 2 where round but on the pro class the outer 2 where slotted??

Can any one shed some light?

Right your given a frame stripped down to bare metal no decals, nothing.How do you tell whether that frame is a US version Supergoose 3 or a Pro class
Cheers :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Whats the difference???????
Post by: theRuler on February 01, 2007, 09:29 AM: Quote from: login_user on February 01, 2007, 08:57 AM
i thought that it was in the rear brake bridge holes on the super3 the outer 2 where round but on the pro class the outer 2 where slotted??

i thought that too

but other than that i think they look the same

although the supergoose 3 is a different shape to the cali so maybe the pro class is different to the super?

who has both?
Title: Re: Whats the difference???????
Post by: Nosnod on February 01, 2007, 02:39 PM: I thought the Proclass had different sized tubing?
Title: Re: Whats the difference???????
Post by: RATTY on February 01, 2007, 02:54 PM: Oh well, we aint done this thread since last year, Ill get me comfy chair, weighing scales micrometer and a cyanide pill >:D
Title: Re: Whats the difference???????
Post by: login_user on February 01, 2007, 03:35 PM: Quote from: RATTY on February 01, 2007, 02:54 PM
Oh well, we aint done this thread since last year, Ill get me comfy chair, weighing scales micrometer and a cyanide pill >:D

No Ratty!! That was the UK supergoose3 and US Supergoose3 :2funny:
Title: Re: Whats the difference???????
Post by: RATTY on February 01, 2007, 03:49 PM: Oh well, we aint done this thread since last year, Ill get me comfy chair, weighing scales micrometer and a cyanide pill >:D

:'( :-\ :-X :-[ ???
Title: Re: Whats the difference???????
Post by: selfpreservation on February 01, 2007, 04:56 PM: i dont know about geometry but the proclass has tubes that are made of different wall thicknesses to save on weight , they do look very similar though , ive only ever seen 4 of them and that was 22 years ago my mate had on he was 12 as well and he broke it three times at the toptube/seattube join in a year and got it replaced each time under warranty :wtf: they dont seem to be able to handle much punishment for general bmx street ramp riding , probably ok going round a track though
Title: Re: Whats the difference???????
Post by: sawzall on February 01, 2007, 10:35 PM: the down tube is thicker than the top tube on the pro class,1"1/4 (down tube) 1"1/8 (top tube)
Title: Re: Whats the difference???????
Post by: login_user on February 02, 2007, 11:15 AM: Quote from: sawzall on February 01, 2007, 10:35 PM
the down tube is thicker than the top tube on the pro class,1"1/4 (down tube) 1"1/8 (top tube)

So Is my supergoose3(us version) what are the 3 holes like in the rear brake bridge round or elongated? :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: selfpreservation on February 02, 2007, 07:01 PM: Quote from: login_user on February 01, 2007, 08:57 AM
OK what is the visable differences between a mongoose supergoose3 (us) and a pro class, i thought that it was in the rear brake bridge holes on the super3 the outer 2 where round but on the pro class the outer 2 where slotted??

Can any one shed some light?

Right your given a frame stripped down to bare metal no decals, nothing.How do you tell whether that frame is a US version Supergoose 3 or a Pro class
Cheers :daumenhoch:
weigh it
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: kdw712 on February 03, 2007, 12:34 PM: come on pro class owners check your brake bridges please

though i did think both bikes had round holes
and it was purely as mentioned above, the weight difference due to the thin wall pro class tubes

thats how i found out mine was n't a PC but a super :'( :( :'(
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: zed4130 on February 03, 2007, 12:43 PM: so it's all down to size then >:D :2funny:
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: Bananaman on February 04, 2007, 04:43 PM: Top tube is 90mm and the bottom tube 100mm ish and the brake bridge has round holes in it :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: kdw712 on February 04, 2007, 05:03 PM: Quote from: bananaman on February 04, 2007, 04:43 PM
Top tube is 90mm and the bottom tube 100mm ish and the brake bridge has round holes in it :daumenhoch:

:daumenhoch: ;)
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: Jonnyboy bmx on February 04, 2007, 06:45 PM: I have had both framesets and the Proclass is a world away in weight difference. The proclass is light as fook, you just know its mega special :smitten:
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: Bananaman on February 04, 2007, 06:50 PM: Jon, has yours got any holes in the brake bridge>.....................

Stidds has none, check the museum :-[
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: login_user on February 04, 2007, 07:19 PM: Quote from: bananaman on February 04, 2007, 06:50 PM
Jon, has yours got any holes in the brake bridge>.....................

Stidds has none, check the museum :-[

Is stidds an early one?? coz i think they only had 1 hole,It seems it's only the weight thats different,the geometry looks the same the tubes are the same diameter,but i think i saw slotted holes in the later pro class's
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: Jonnyboy bmx on February 04, 2007, 09:58 PM: Quote from: bananaman on February 04, 2007, 06:50 PM
Jon, has yours got any holes in the brake bridge>.....................

Stidds has none, check the museum :-[

Yes mine does have the 3 holes in the brake bridge.
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: kdw712 on February 04, 2007, 10:06 PM: stidds is a 82 model - very early
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: login_user on February 04, 2007, 10:20 PM: Quote from: Jonnyboy bmx on February 04, 2007, 09:58 PM
Quote from: bananaman on February 04, 2007, 06:50 PM
Jon, has yours got any holes in the brake bridge>.....................

Stidds has none, check the museum :-[

Yes mine does have the 3 holes in the brake bridge.

Are they all round or are the outside 2 elongated? What year is it?
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: Jonnyboy bmx on February 04, 2007, 10:33 PM: It has round holes. it is a 83 model.
I will try and find a pic of the brake bridge for you..
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: login_user on February 04, 2007, 10:35 PM: Quote from: Jonnyboy bmx on February 04, 2007, 10:33 PM
It has round holes. it is a 83 model.
I will try and find a pic of the brake bridge for you..

So it is exactly the same apart from weight as my US supergoose 3. ;)
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: Jonnyboy bmx on February 04, 2007, 10:45 PM: Proclass

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v221/bmxjon/Picture001.jpg)

Supergoose

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v221/bmxjon/Picture652.jpg)

As far as i know weight is the only difference you can tell between the two framesets.
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: login_user on February 04, 2007, 10:47 PM: How much lighter is IT Johnny??? :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: Jonnyboy bmx on February 04, 2007, 10:54 PM: Quote from: login_user on February 04, 2007, 10:47 PM
How much lighter is Johnny??? :daumenhoch:

LOL, i wish i could tell you mate. Got the proclass f&f first, didnt weigh it before i built it into a bike.
Later got the supergoose f&f and sold it on again without weighing it. Sorry fella, all i can say is there is a real difference. The proclass is as light as a feather.
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: login_user on February 04, 2007, 11:15 PM: Quote from: Jonnyboy bmx on February 04, 2007, 10:54 PM
Quote from: login_user on February 04, 2007, 10:47 PM
How much lighter is Johnny??? :daumenhoch:

LOL, i wish i could tell you mate. Got the proclass f&f first, didnt weigh it before i built it into a bike.
Later got the supergoose f&f and sold it on again without weighing it. Sorry fella, all i can say is there is a real difference. The proclass is as light as a feather.

Soz about the grammer,got any pics of it built up?
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: Jonnyboy bmx on February 05, 2007, 12:05 AM: (http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v221/bmxjon/Picture184.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v221/bmxjon/Picture187.jpg)

:daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Help Whats the difference?pro class v us Super3
Post by: kdw712 on February 05, 2007, 12:06 AM: pro class frame is about 3lbs 13 oz and the forks are 1lb 10oz roughly ;)

sure my supergoose frame was near 6 1/2 - 7 lbs