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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: workshyfop on February 20, 2007, 11:54 PM
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had tuffs bitd, and found them heavy, flexy and very poor braking. quickly changed over to araya aeros and found these much preferable. anyone else of the same school of thought??? in process of building up aero reflex and will have red large flange suzues with gold rims and red nipples. ??? is this acceptable for period of bike, or do you all think it should have tuffs???
any input much appreciated...........
thanks in anticipation of your feedback. Best wishes , Neil.
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yes . they are.
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Araya's are cool as fook and they do the job rather well.
but.....
Tuffs look ace, Thus, they are the bestest.
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amen
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its kind of like asking what is the best caliper brake.
Yes, its the ACS BOA
But, we all pay big for MX1000's
Why?
they look cool.
Tuffs rule.
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so its all down to looks then, rather than performance? :'( no wonder i don't pull too many ladies then............!!
know what you mean though, tuffs just look right for that period..........i would like to ride it as well mind.......
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ride it then.
tuffs served well for many a fine jouster.
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i ride on tuffs
and Dia Compe brakes.
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do they stop you??...........only joking. alloy rims will give me better braking though?????? as opposed to tuffs. also, tuff pads are essential for using with tuffs, or are the standard type dia-compe pads adequate???
thanks again for your advice to my inane questions.
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I found that you really need tuff pads to get the best brakes. Not sure about other types such as ACS, Vans and the copies available but the Dia-Comp pads were pretty useless.
I have kool stop ones on my bike now and they aren't too bad but they are getting on a bit now so might have gone a bit hard.
I bought some copies from Wilkinsons a few weeks back for 70p, they are black, and look the same apart from not having writing on them. Not sure how perform yet though.
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I always liked a Tuff but the guy that i rode with as a kid never had a pair, it's horses for courses, innit?
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Ya know what I'm gonna say! LOL...
Tuffs are so cool!
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had tuffs bitd, and found them heavy, flexy and very poor braking. quickly changed over to araya aeros and found these much preferable. anyone else of the same school of thought??? in process of building up aero reflex and will have red large flange suzues with gold rims and red nipples. ??? is this acceptable for period of bike, or do you all think it should have tuffs???
any input much appreciated...........
thanks in anticipation of your feedback. Best wishes , Neil.
no they not ,go with what you feel like :daumenhoch:
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Tuffs are the dogs danglies,they just look so coool! ::)
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Before this turns into another 'Whats better Tuffs or......' thread :2funny: I think its only right I tell you Tuffs are the ONLY way forward.
Its been debated on here several times and everyone finally agrees, just ask Graham (Ruler), he'll give you a 1000 reasons why you should go tuffs over anything else, just ask him ;) ;) :D :D ;D
Just My Tuppence,
Stace
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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I live for my Tuff wheels. I wont use anything else. Ever.....
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get what ever yer fancy !!!! ITS YOUR BUILD
but tuffs seam to finish em off nice i had a set bitd but i killed em in the first few months of havin the bike but i was a bit of a crash test dummy back then !!!!!! im hopein the ones iv got now will last longer :2funny:
my dyno with tuffs
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k317/sonic-1-2006/dynocompewithtuffs001.jpg)
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has greame not put his tuppence worth in yet :LolLolLolLol:
yes, it would look better with tuffs.
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erm.......
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v255/rombloke/all2.jpg)
Dave
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tuffs are the dogs weena and mx1000s are sweet as fook my arayas do stop betterer but the tuffs do it for me
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if its a freestyle bike then its gotta be tuffs if its a out and out race bike then its gotto be spokes
if its a cross over sought of bike ie skyway ta , mongoose, etc then tuffs as they look more old school
In my opinion
dave do you wanna swap them wheels you got off jim for some alloy tuffs in black ;) maybe a bit of brown love aswell to make up the difference :-* or cash its up to you you know them wheels spoil that picture dont ya ;D
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v651/waxintaxin/Picture569.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v651/waxintaxin/Picture112.jpg)
Tuffs look cool , so can spokes , But nothing says 83 like a Tuff
But your bike , you choose
Rich
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flaz....like the ones on the left here...the ones on the right...or the pair behind the pair on the right....lol
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v255/rombloke/DSCF0007-1.jpg)
no ta mate....the chrome arayas are staying on the blyther replica....thanks tho fella
although saying that i do have a pair of chrome rims in the middle front of the pic, waiting with the pair of wide flange hubs zip tied to em....maybe???
Dave
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hmmm 棕色愛我愛您久時間 :-*
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tuffs for freestyle
spokes for racing............imo :angel:
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tuffs for freestyle
spokes for racing............imo :angel:
Quoted for truth.
If you are building a freestyle bike, then tuffs are a must. However, Tuffs should bo no-where near a race bike UNLESS, the race bike is a Skyway T/A then it is acceptable.
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tuffs for freestyle
spokes for racing............imo :angel:
Quoted for truth.
If you are building a freestyle bike, then tuffs are a must. However, Tuffs should bo no-where near a race bike UNLESS, the race bike is a Skyway T/A then it is acceptable.
Agreed :daumenhoch:
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i dont agree, look how good richs quad looks with them tuffs.
what i would admit, is if you are a serious racer, and really want to get the edge, then maybe dont use tuffs.
anything else, tuffs rule.
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i dont agree, look how good richs quad looks with them tuffs.
For looks yes I agree Tuffs look good on any bike (race or freestyle) - but for practical use it's spokes for racing and tuffs for freestyle for me ;)
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modern old school rules dictates "tuffs on everything"
but actually bitd people rode on both.
and by the end of the 80's tuffs were very much in the minority
spoked wheels were always commonplace in freestyle. were the norm by 86-87. and were always better wheels.
and not just for serious racing either
serious anything bmx, alloys were always the way to go. in the beginning some knew that. eventually everyone knew it.
i started riding in 83 and rode right up until the end of 89
i didnt see the glorious tuff wheel years that people hold in high regard
i had tuffs, but never a complete set. pegs would murder the hubs on them.
tuff wheels do personify a certain era of bmx. and they will always suit an 80's ride. some bikes even benefit from tuffs! take daves haros - you couldnt imagine a haro replica that had alloy wheels.
however put mags on anything after the 80's and it's not good. in my opinion.
the black/white rule of tuffs for freestyle and spokes for racing is just not how it was.
look in the old action bikes.
as for what is "acceptable" put what you like on whatever bike you like (so long as the year is right!)
THAT is how it was. dress codes for bmx is a new thing
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its kind of like asking what is the best caliper brake.
Yes, its the ACS BOA
But, we all pay big for MX1000's
Why?
they look cool.
Tuffs rule.
boa's werent around pre 85, that's why
after 85 i would image people would run fs880's, up until boas came along.
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i'm well sorted now anyway. spokes for the aero reflex (this will be my rider) and i just bought a '85 master in green with nearly all green parts - including tuffs and mx1000's just so i can drool over it as this is what i really wanted BITD, but my parents wouldnt fork out that sort of cash so i had to "make do" with my pink rickman freestyler (which i really,really wish i still had). mind, still wish i had the hutch pro racer which i picked up for £40 complete (hutch bars/araya aeros etc) towards end of the '80s when people were giving away decent gear. thanks for all your feedback - much appreciated
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you're sorted then mate!!!
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Tuff's are the wheels that you couldn't afford (well parents couldn't afford) back when you were a lad unless you were one of hte spoiled lot,and now when your our age (30ish) you can spend your own hard earned cash and get the wheels you dreamed off instead of making do with cheaper acorn mag wheels
So, make your dreams come true and buy some real skyway tuff wheels