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Mid School BMX (>87) 1989 to 2003 (<05) => Mid School ( Keep the faith ) => Topic started by: Stodgy on February 21, 2007, 08:47 AM
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Me and pete drove 110 miles last night to the seaside at Eastborne to pick a bird...then treated ourselves to a bag of fish n chips overlooking the pier and then 110 miles home again!
She was well thumbed, but in excellent nick for her age...much better than I expected and luckily much older than I thought too...
1993 Hoffman Condor...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/dpmk1condor1.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/dpmk1condor2.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/dpmk1condor3.jpg)
Finally! And it's all thanks to my eagle eyed friend Harris - who from now on will be refered to as 'Our Lord Dan'. I can't thank you enough mate - I am forever in your debt.
And a big thanks to birthday boy Pete Quadrophenia for coming all the way down with me! It was a most excellent adventure.
The restoration begins, oh and the search for 93 Condor forks to replace the Super Forks attached...apparently the previous owner snapped them!
:daumenhoch:
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:shocked: Woah, nice one Dave!
Looking forward to seeing that after you've worked ur magic. :daumenhoch:
Brian.
ps. happy birthday Pete!
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g1/brian4130/misc/WildStallyns.jpg)
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Looks cool mate! eastbourne is full of old birds :crazy2: but that one looks the mutz!
Can't wait to see her once you've put her through the 'Ten years younger' program :daumenhoch:
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good luck with that seat post mate.
19mm drops?
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Well done Dave, really pleased for you. I have been trying to get you one but you (and magic Dan) got there first. Make sure you dont say what it cost you or someone will tell you that you have ripped the owner off and that you should have paid more!
Look forward to seeing its progress, and it finished. Did I tell you I had 2 TNT stems? Do you want them both now?
Yesterday I remembered someone else I used to ride with who had an early condor. I will still try and get it for you.
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good luck with that seat post mate
;D
And yup, 16mm drops - but luckily Mark knows a man...
Alex - thanks mate, all leads to track down those other F&F's would be awesome mate - and thank you for all your investigation!
Luckily, the guy knew what is was, so he got the right money for it on ebay.
So, all's good!
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top stuff mate, well chuffed it all come of and the eagle landed in the right hands.wont
take long to get her up and flying again. :4_17_5:
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is fuzzynod doing it dave?
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is fuzzynod doing it dave?
His race car mate will be re-constructing the drop-outs like on Fuzzy's one...the pattern is allready there, so it's just a matter of paying race-car supremo wages. But it'll be worth it.
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well, if its anything like fuzzy's it will be pukka. that welder is an alchemist.
funny, same bikes....same problem...
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Yeah, it was a bit weird...they were the first batch, would have shipped together, we're then ridden all their lives by one person, competed on, comps won on and then left in a garage for 3 years before being re-discovered - then ending up with some old git!
Oooo spooky... :D
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lets start a rumour that all hoffman bikes are haunted.
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They all hold the spirit of Mr. Hoffman and our Lord Dan Harris.
Wooooooooooo
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I was bidding on that too :LolLolLolLol:
Mind you I thought it was going to go for a steal and was surprised it went as high as it did. ;)
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arrr so it was you one of the other bidders :)
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I was bidding on that too :LolLolLolLol:
Mind you I thought it was going to go for a steal and was surprised it went as high as it did. ;)
I saw your bid go in Si...it'll be interesting to find out who Bidder 4 was who came in with 20 secs to go! Pushed it right up! ;D
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yep, happened to me to......in the last 5 seconds.....
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::)
I didn't think that Bidder 4 was you dude?
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mind you it would have had to have been a deep pocket project to have won the condor .
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no bidder 4 wasnt me, i didnt bid.
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mind you it would have had to have been a deep pocket project to have won the condor .
Yep...had the quote for the drop-out metal work from Fuzzy Mark...gulp.
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My max bid was about 30 so I certainly didn't push things up that much. :LolLolLolLol:
Thought I was going to get a bargain for a while at itwas at a fiver for a while.
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stodgy somethings are priceless ,sell your bum to pete. :LolLolLolLol:
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i think he already did.......
he rang me last night, beck picked up the phone, and all she heard was "it smells of fish"
that is a true tale, ask miss boo.....
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:LolLolLolLol:
run some dropout reducers or run my hubs for now.
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My max bid was about 30 so I certainly didn't push things up that much. :LolLolLolLol:
Thought I was going to get a bargain for a while at itwas at a fiver for a while.
I know mate - it's no problem, I was happy to pay what I did even with the work that had to be done. And I'm glad the guy got what it was worth - he was a really nice fella.
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i think he already did.......
he rang me last night, beck picked up the phone, and all she heard was "it smells of fish"
that is a true tale, ask miss boo.....
;D true true
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I was obliged to keep schtumm on this one, and I too was shocked at the end price. Thought it'd probably go for around £50 if someone else with a well-trained eye had picked up on it.
Did anyone go for the 16mm axle wheels?
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me :) got them to.
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Oh, well done.
What's the deal with them? The two restoration Condors I've seen on here have both had the 16mm axles. Were they a team item?
Was this a team-issue bike? Wouldn't mind knowing some of its history.
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Hia Wayne - I think it's just coincidence.
I believe people started going for 16mm axles in the search for ultimate strength.
Both this frame and Fuzzy's one were owned by competing riders, so chances are they were both hardcore and heavy on parts. The guy who we picked the frame up from said his mate was forever breaking parts, so he made his own...look at the headset and the hubs aparently made by him.
I'm looking forward to finding out more history about it. There were competition tags on the bars which were with the frame (Phil won them in another auction from the same guy), they read: KOC Custom Riders, KOC Red Bull and KOC 99. That's all the info I have at the moment, but am going to have a chat with the seller tonight to see if I can glean a bit more. Oh, I also know that it was owned by the same guy from 92 through to 2003 and he rode it constantly - he only changed frame when he won a new one in a comp in 2003.
The seller was really pleased that it was going to be restored and was going to let it's previous owner know - he now lives in Canada. So, no doubt we can get to the bottom of it's full history.
Should be a fun project.
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good job i sent the hoff decals dave :daumenhoch:
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good job i sent the hoff decals dave :daumenhoch:
Thanks Rory - yeah I thought they would be perfect for this when I saw it on the bay, but it turned out to be a 92 so they are like the ones I have already repro'd for Fuzzy Mark.
Sweeeet.
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Yeah, it was a bit weird...they were the first batch, would have shipped together, we're then ridden all their lives by one person, competed on, comps won on and then left in a garage for 3 years before being re-discovered - then ending up with some old git!
Oooo spooky... :D
Hey Dude a little less of the Git if you please. :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :2gunsfiring_v1:
Well done and welcome to a fairly exclusive club. Love those super forks and stem by the way. :smitten:
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Yeah, it was a bit weird...they were the first batch, would have shipped together, we're then ridden all their lives by one person, competed on, comps won on and then left in a garage for 3 years before being re-discovered - then ending up with some old git!
Oooo spooky... :D
Hey Dude a little less of the Git if you please. :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :2gunsfiring_v1:
Well done and welcome to a fairly exclusive club. Love those super forks and stem by the way. :smitten:
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Little Update.
Just noticed on the stem that the back of the top plate has been ground down to allow for clearance of that massive headset when run upsidedown (he had the stem upsidedown on the bars)...shame. And acording to YGT's superfork guide, they are Gen 2 superforks, US made.
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well thats enough about the bike, the fish and chips was pukka, 3 bits of fish, yes 3, so gotta find more bikes for sale in eastbourne now so we can return, there was also loads of old people there in the hotels that i think were not gonna make it home
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yo birthday boy ,wheres my stick of rock then.
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can you get a closer pic of headset dave :)
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What is it with Stodgys threads? This one is another 3 pager, and no-one has even started fighting on it!
I think he has several log ins and they are all just him talking to himself! (well, apart from this reply, cos I know this isnt him,)
Oh, Im confused now. Im off for a lie down...
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alex you forget this is the midschool section.very few venture in hear :LolLolLolLol:
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What is it with Stodgys threads? This one is another 3 pager, and no-one has even started fighting on it!
I think he has several log ins and they are all just him talking to himself! (well, apart from this reply, cos I know this isnt him,)
Oh, Im confused now. Im off for a lie down...
Brilliant double bluff.
::)
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well thats enough about the bike, the fish and chips was pukka, 3 bits of fish, yes 3, so gotta find more bikes for sale in eastbourne now so we can return, there was also loads of old people there in the hotels that i think were not gonna make it home
They were fecking excellent fish n chips.
The funny thing was, we were driving down the seafront and Pete was going..."oooo, ooo, there's an italian ice cream shop down here on the right", "there's a fish n chips shop down that road", "there's a big pie shop on the corner in half a mile time"...
He plots the whole damn country by his stomach!!!
;D
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yo
did the owner have a part in manufacture of said headset and hubs ,
the story unfolds . who is the mystery ex owner :)
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v472/billstup/Photo-0146.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v472/billstup/Photo-0150.jpg)
Are these what your looking for Dave ?
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Yes Bill they are...please don't tell me your teasing me!!!
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yo
did the owner have a part in manufacture of said headset and hubs ,
the story unfolds . who is the mystery ex owner :)
Apparently he did. And YGT Mark has just been on to Dan to say that the headset and hubs are by a small UK company called Rekka...well I think I may have found some evidence to support that:
Sticker on the top tube reads 'Equipped by Rekka Engineered Like a Brick Shithouse'
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/condorrekkasticker.jpg)
Headset:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/condorheadset1.jpg)
And got the seat post out!
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/dpcondor5.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/dpcondor4.jpg)
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Yes Bill they are...please don't tell me your teasing me!!!
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They are on my Big Daddy, but I`ll only let them go if the right forks come up for that, so if you can find a set of ramp room made Big Daddy forks then they`re yours :daumenhoch:
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quality find dave you lucky sod :)
consider them found.
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rekka stuff was hard to get even in uk bitd !
nice find , mason still has some rekka headset bits for sale if any use to you :daumenhoch:
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Bill...it just so happens I have a minty first gen Ramp Room made pair of big daddy forks here:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/1stgenbigdforks1.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/1stgenbigdforks2.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/1stgenbigdforks3.jpg)
I presume we have a deal?!
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rekka stuff was hard to get even in uk bitd !
nice find , mason still has some rekka headset bits for sale if any use to you :daumenhoch:
Nice one thanks for the info Rory!
And thanks for the positive ID on the Rekka stuff YGT Mark - :daumenhoch:
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Forks and frame in 3 days this collecting is to easy now Im off to juggle soup!!! :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:
Fecking awesome dude.
RIDE ON.
:daumenhoch:
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(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/tvtime-output-16_50_06.jpg)
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i think he already did.......
he rang me last night, beck picked up the phone, and all she heard was "it smells of fish"
that is a true tale, ask miss boo.....
Its true. I thought Oh Christ I am getting a pervy phone call but turned out to be not the case ;)
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i think he already did.......
he rang me last night, beck picked up the phone, and all she heard was "it smells of fish"
that is a true tale, ask miss boo.....
Its true. I thought Oh Christ I am getting a pervy phone call but turned out to be not the case ;)
Not even a little bit? ;)
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you jammy .....pah....im not even gonna bother
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Thanks Billy - you're a diamond geezar.
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did i mention the fish?
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Think I'm gonna cry.. I love a happy endings :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Bru :daumenhoch:
Aw, don't, you'll set me off...
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did i mention the fish?
The fish was brilliant Pete - 3 pieces each!!! We are fat piggies.
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Thanks Billy - you're a diamond geezar.
:4_17_5:
You should thank Dan Harris really, it was him that the Big Daddy came from :daumenhoch:
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Weird the similarities check out the stickers on my frame when I got it .
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/fuzzynod/RADBMX/RIMG1480.jpg).
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this is to similar :)
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Oh my god, this is getting far too spooky now...Phil said it was haunted...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/dpcondor4.jpg)
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Thanks Billy - you're a diamond geezar.
:4_17_5:
You should thank Dan Harris really, it was him that the Big Daddy came from :daumenhoch:
I love Dan - he is indeed the man.
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Yo Fuzzy,
did you see any evidence of the original colour of that condor when you got it ... or did it actually come in green?
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Yeah there was a bit of blue on there but I already knew from the original owner it was blue .
Darren Claggit not long after he bought it from backyard as a frame and forks kit.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/fuzzynod/RADBMX/CLAGGITSCONDOR.jpg)
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Dave, awesome find and looks like yours and Fuzzy's have some real history to them - fantastic :daumenhoch:
I'm really pleased you got your holy grail, these Hoffmans are just the business and I can't wait to get my Flash built up :daumenhoch:
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too spooky...feck me i reckon fuzzynod just photoshopped those stickers...
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too spooky...feck me i reckon fuzzynod just photoshopped those stickers...
Nah, he's too old to know what Photoshop is...
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:2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1:
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Age is nothing, your as Old as you Dream.
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:LolLolLolLol: you was getting the dropouts repaired :2funny:
was there anyother goodies in that lot not been id yet.
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i had a mail just now from the guy the bits come from
he said he hopes im happy with all the bits.and he would
love to see it restored.and chuffed it made more than he thought . :)
and any problems please let him no.cool
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too spooky...feck me i reckon fuzzynod just photoshopped those stickers...
Nah, he's too old to know what Photoshop is...
Harris is right I have just negotiated you a special price for the dropout repair .I managed to get it UP to £450.
Is not that the idea????
Must be my AGE eh? :tickedoff:
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whoops...
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i had a mail just now from the guy the bits come from
he said he hopes im happy with all the bits.and he would
love to see it restored.and chuffed it made more than he thought . :)
and any problems please let him no.cool
Nice one Dan - I was gonna give him a call tonight to get some more info on the owner.
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too spooky...feck me i reckon fuzzynod just photoshopped those stickers...
Nah, he's too old to know what Photoshop is...
Harris is right I have just negotiated you a special price for the dropout repair .I managed to get it UP to £450.
Is not that the idea????
Must be my AGE eh? :tickedoff:
;D
Note to self: must get Mark's mate to do the drop outs before taking the piss.
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i have his work number if you cant wait :angel:
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Dont worry Dave, I have got a man who can re-do your drop-outs if you want. I was only keeping quiet cos I didnt want to take Marks glory of fixing a Condor. My man will do a great job, wont charge much at all .... but it might take him a good few months to get round to doing it. And your condor will be at the back of the que behind 2 PKs, an 84 sport, a Gen 1 Haro, a Mk1 pro burner and a 91 dirtbike. Wow, thats quite some que!
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;D
They all yours Alex?
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No, just one. Can you guess which? ha ha. Yep, the dirtbike! Oh, hang on, the 84 sport is mine too. The PKs are "Vert Squerts" (He's riding one in the "Mons Jams" shots), the Gen1 belongs to the guy who does the work (Geoff) and the Pro burner is a mate of mines, but Im building it for him.
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i have his work number if you cant wait :angel:
Far too tempting...he might get a restraining order out on me! ;D
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nice find mate,can't wait to see the complete bike built :4_17_5:what parts are you going for ?
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nice find mate,can't wait to see the complete bike built :4_17_5:what parts are you going for ?
Pretty similar to Fuzzy Mark's bike as it's close to the original spec - with exception of a couple of bits to ring the changes from Marks...
Watch this space! :daumenhoch:
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ace find stodge, well pleased for you
it was dan that i got my hardest to find bike off!!!
as for the drops - they look like they are cut for gack hubs. super huge axles
but phil rekka used to make hubs too (aswell as other stuff). maybe they were cut for a rekka rear hub
all UK stuff. rekka used to ride at KOC and his bike had some high quality home made stuff
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if you havent heard of "gack" it's a guy who rode and worked with hoffman for years and years. chris gack i think his name is.
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yep, Kris Gack. got his own line of frames and bits too. pumped out quality stuff.
(wasn't he one of the first dudes to use oversized axles?)
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the gack hubs he made in the early nineties had super big axles.
these were the hubs that mongoose kinda copied
gsport hubs are the best though. 22mm axles. you wont bend them fookers. bolt in too with 14mm bolts
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if you havent heard of "gack" it's a guy who rode and worked with hoffman for years and years. chris gack i think his name is.
Yip - know all about Mr Gack grae, I have a box full of gack bits on various builds :daumenhoch:
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then dont "fix" the drops - run the gack hubs!!!!!
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ace find stodge, well pleased for you
it was dan that i got my hardest to find bike off!!!
as for the drops - they look like they are cut for gack hubs. super huge axles
but phil rekka used to make hubs too (aswell as other stuff). maybe they were cut for a rekka rear hub
all UK stuff. rekka used to ride at KOC and his bike had some high quality home made stuff
Dan is a little eagle-eye fecker eh?!
They are Rekka hubs in the wheels that went with the bike and a Rekka headset too...just about to call the guy we got it from...so might have some more news in a bit.
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it's gonna be hot
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I believe it was Phil Rekka's bike - the chap we picked the frame up off said that the previous owner was phil someone (didn't catch the name at the time), and he made all his own parts because he just broke everything else...so, it's history is slowly coming together...I just tried phoning the seller, but there is no answer...
Dan has the wheels from the bike and Phil has the bars, cranks and pedals...
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without sounding nosey, what sort of money do early condors get... just gimme a rough guide. might be able to get my hands on one but dont wanna pay over the odds..
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without sounding nosey, what sort of money do early condors get... just gimme a rough guide. might be able to get my hands on one but dont wanna pay over the odds..
As much as you wanna pay dude and dependent on condition - they don't come up often...in fact this is only the second in 2 years that I know of. I really couldn't put a guide on them.
Sorry - not much help I know. But they are just not about, but if you really really want one then pay what you feel comfortable with.
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UPDATE
Right, just spoke to the guy I got the frame off.
It was ridden and owned by a guy called Phil Evans from Hastings - he competed at a high amatuer level, everything from flatland to vert all on the Condor.
He was a machinist and engineer and definately made the hubs & headset on the bike...so is he the 'Phil' that ran Rekka? I don't know yet, he's going to find out for me.
He was well know in Hastings and the surrounding area, and had big dreds a few years ago...he was also good friends with the owner of Backyard.
Ring any bells with anyone?
Did he and Darren Glaggit have any connection?
Hmmmm all these questions and more will be answers when we go 'through the keyhole'...da da da daaaaa
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without sounding nosey, what sort of money do early condors get... just gimme a rough guide. might be able to get my hands on one but dont wanna pay over the odds..
they seem to be very underated imo. all the condors that come up seem to go for cheap, unless its one of us numpty's, and when you show them to people you meet a lot of head scratching.
people appreciate them for being a "nice looking bike" but not, it seems, the ethos behind them, and if you know that, you will be willing to fork out your soul, if not, they are just a cheapish (in cost) outdated chrome frame from the nineties.
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dreads is a good identifyer
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without sounding nosey, what sort of money do early condors get... just gimme a rough guide. might be able to get my hands on one but dont wanna pay over the odds..
they seem to be very underated imo. all the condors that come up seem to go for cheap, unless its one of us numpty's, and when you show them to people you meet a lot of head scratching.
people appreciate them for being a "nice looking bike" but not, it seems, the ethos behind them, and if you know that, you will be willing to fork out your soul, if not, they are just a cheapish (in cost) outdated chrome frame from the nineties.
Thanks Phil - that's what I was trying to say. :)
Read Mat Hoffmans book 'Ride of my life' and you'll sell your house and pimp your wife to buy one.
:)
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and i sold one 5 months back ??? what a dip i am o i am yep me a dip .but it aint far away >:D
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i've just paid 100 euros for this, having only seen this photo.. is it early? i think it is cos the bridge by the back brake looks like yours but the stickers are wrong i guess....
mug or smug?
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b253/rakas17/condor.jpg)
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woo fookin hoo!
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fook the stickers man.
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woo fookin hoo!
what does that mean? sarcasm? excitement?
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has it a serial number
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ill give you you 100 euro's to take that pile of crap off your hands
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i bet you would :LolLolLolLol:
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has it a serial number
dunno yet.... bit of a gamble but i wanted to snap it up. 70 quid aint that much of a heart breaker, i thought i'd risk it.
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Smug as fook I would say...early frame with 1995/96 stickers.
Lucky lucky find dude!!!!!
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cool, i'll get pics up when it comes. :daumenhoch:
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I'm so glad I got mine Rakas, because I would have had to kill you. Count yourself lucky.
;) ;D
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rakas your pic .your mate who has this do you no if he has advertised this
last year on a different forum,as the pic looks familiar.
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harris, i never said it was a mate, just a badly listed ebay item.
have a look , see what you think, what do you make of the forks i might get?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AL%3ARTQ%3AUK%3A1&viewitem=&item=140088626593&rd=1
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:daumenhoch: what the forks that are on it.
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he just said that i'll get both pairs.. sounds like, pitch forks and some green hoffman ones..
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bonus :4_17_5:
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I'm so glad I got mine Rakas, because I would have had to kill you. Count yourself lucky.
;) ;D
if you didn't just get one and i knew you were looking i probably would have let you have it.. i've been lookin for a condor of some sort but not as much as you by the sounds of things :daumenhoch:
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I got a letter from Kris Gack back in 1991 when he first started making hubs and he was using 1/2" axles to begin with according to his letter.
Later on he became in charge of production when hoffman started producing inhouse.
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i must say this thread is wicked ,ive learnt alot of it in the last few days.9 pages and easy going stuff.
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i must say this thread is wicked ,ive learnt alot of it in the last few days.9 pages and easy going stuff.
Me too :daumenhoch: Way better than any other thread this long at the moment :LolLolLolLol:
You've got to love the Hoffman bikes, when I got my Flash and was waiting for it to arrive I was unsure (as you know Dan ;)) of whether to keep it, I wanted a Condor or a Hutch then when I got it and took it out of the box WOW! Quality welds, great chrome and a cracking looking bike. These Condors are the same and it's great to read about the history of the bikes that Mark and Dave have now got. The Rekka connection is awesome and really adds to the value of the bike, not financially but in terms of its heritage, just like the action shot of Mark's bike - shows they were riders, ridden well and used for what they were designed for :daumenhoch:
Pete, were the fish and chips that good?
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ye the 1990s bikes have a limited audience as not many rode back then
which makes it our job to help push it forward in the way it needs.
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I'm so glad I got mine Rakas, because I would have had to kill you. Count yourself lucky.
;) ;D
if you didn't just get one and i knew you were looking i probably would have let you have it.. i've been lookin for a condor of some sort but not as much as you by the sounds of things :daumenhoch:
Thanks dude - man, I love Rad, there are good people on here.
And Dan, you're right this has been a good thread - thank you all for your input! Awesome.
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mark this kris gack i take it he carried on making or modifying products into the later 1990s
like the peregrines as ive a couple of sets of the phat jack 10/14 slotted vershions with big bearings
and much fatter spokes,they are that big they dont fit any other peregrine rim.so did
they /he get them specialy made or would you think peregrine made them for him.
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mark this kris gack i take it he carried on making or modifying products into the later 1990s
like the peregrines as ive a couple of sets of the phat jack 10/14 slotted vershions with big bearings
and much fatter spokes,they are that big they dont fit any other peregrine rim.so did
they /he get them specialy made or would you think peregrine made them for him.
I think so Dan - I believe he was with Hoffman until late 97/98...
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phil evans is the rekka guy
could never remember his surname
they used to call him rekka!!! because of his products
or at KOC, phil rekka, so you knew it was the rekka guy
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condor, rekka ,, all rad finds , cant wait to see what you build :daumenhoch:
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from what i remeber kris gack stayed with hoffman just when hb moved production to taiwan and then left.
He started off gack bikes but didnt do to well and i think this is what caused him to close up shop.
I am not even sure if kris welded his gack frames himself ... i think he outsourced them.
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so what rims fit on those oversized spokes dan?
i turned down a set of the hubs, purely on that one point.....
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the rims are pergrine super pros.i have one full set but need 2 more rims.
the holes are oversized from stock so finding a set could be tricky.
i might mess about and lace them to some z rims as i can drill out the holes.
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yeah good idea, could you not drill the holes on another steel/alloy rim? super 7x's?
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i could but many 48 hole rims are usualy butted they have the eyelets in the holes. :-[
i will look into drilling out some of my spare corroded superpro rims.
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phil evans is the rekka guy
could never remember his surname
they used to call him rekka!!! because of his products
or at KOC, phil rekka, so you knew it was the rekka guy
Brilliant! So, has anyone got any pics of Phil riding?
YGT Mark - thanks for the info dude - it'll be interesting to find out when Gack left Hoffman. They were still making Gack High Roller Hubs, Rims and Wheelsets into 1998...then at the end of 98 they made the same stuff but without the GACK name on them.
Here are a pair of my High Rollers from late 97 - you can see the GACK name on the rim and hub:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/DSC03237_small.jpg)
Then this is a hub from late 98, same design just with the GACK name removed:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/36ea_1.jpg)
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Searching for pics of Phil Evans at the moment and came across this:
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/xup.co.uk/picture-index.htm
He definately rode at the 1998 KOC Red Bull event as the comp tag was still on the bars...
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Mark - the coincidences continue...my frame was from Backyard too...
Wooooah.
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result. :)
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gonna get the searches affected a bit with this
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.agoride.com/bmx/docs/img_paragraphe/000043/004228_vP.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.agoride.com/bmx/events/king_of_concrete_2002_14265_41_5.htm&h=150&w=200&sz=10&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=vubdEWZz1nHQ1M:&tbnh=78&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dphil%2Bevans%2Bbmx%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den
check the prince of concrete on page 2
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oooooo whos a good lad :)
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Nice one Phil! Just gotta find some pics now.
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apparently thats him, from my search.....on the black flatland type bike.....
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(http://www.agoride.com/bmx/docs/img_paragraphe/000043/004228_vP.jpg)
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Nice...just need to find one of him on the Condor...
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lol...i know, i was hoping ......but hey..its all part of the story....
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I just asked a few mates about Phil. One of them was mates with him, and has pictures of him changing his kids nappy in a VW bus outside Nottingham wheels park sometime in the 90s. Unless his bike was in the background of the shot, I dont expect you want to see them! ha ha
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I just asked a few mates about Phil. One of them was mates with him, and has pictures of him changing his kids nappy in a VW bus outside Nottingham wheels park sometime in the 90s. Unless his bike was in the background of the shot, I dont expect you want to see them! ha ha
Nice one...do they remember the bike? Or just the poo? :daumenhoch:
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Im sure he does. "another of those condors with the silly angels". What more is there to remember?
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LMFAO! :LolLolLolLol:
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I just asked a few mates about Phil. One of them was mates with him, and has pictures of him changing his kids nappy in a VW bus outside Nottingham wheels park sometime in the 90s. Unless his bike was in the background of the shot, I dont expect you want to see them! ha ha
just watch.
by hook or by crook we will find this phil evans.
i just hope its me who does it, cos by the time i do, this thread will be 40 pages long, have pictures of stodgy's gleaming restoration, and phil evans will be forced to re examine his life after he realises he has been under silent scrutiny for the last 6 months.....
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LMAO
Phil - it's no worry, the guy who sold me the frame is still in touch with him...it'll be nice to get some pics of him on the bike when it was fresh and minty...I'm sure we will! Roll on page 40 - can't wait until this one is finished!
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good luck with that seat post mate
;D
And yup, 16mm drops - but luckily Mark knows a man...
Alex - thanks mate, all leads to track down those other F&F's would be awesome mate - and thank you for all your investigation!
Luckily, the guy knew what is was, so he got the right money for it on ebay.
So, all's good!
only because someone told him what it was as he was going to take the 30 quid i offered but had too many pm for it ;)
as soon as i saw it i knew it was a condor with late forks ,pleased you got one as you been asking about mine for a while . will build mine again one day if ever find forks
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i have a picture of phil evans riding at the rom jam in 99 in a ride mag i was reading earlier
and probably all the hoffmans came from backyard, as they were most likely the only importer back then
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get the picture man...
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not sure that flatland pic earlier in this thread is phil evans?
i remember him more as an old school rider.
i'll try and take a pic of the rom pic with my phone later
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no, i wasnt sure either, but it was gleaned from typing in google images
phil evans bmx
then his name is on the page as prince of concrete, but thats 2002.....
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the flatland guy is sam foakes.
in the pic i have from rom he could be riding that condor.
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great find then mate :)
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cool,
so do we think that he rode koc (oo'er) in 2002, or are there 2 phil evans's?
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cool,
so do we think that he rode koc (oo'er) in 2002, or are there 2 phil evans's?
he probably rode in 2002
KOC was always a bit of an old school reunion
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Yeah, I didn't think that flatland pic was Phil Evans, as he definately rode the condor in that comp...come on then Grae - let's have that Rom pic!
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rather than starting a new thread, i thought i'd contribute to this one ;) , just got this condor delivered yesterday, wonder if anyone can tell me what year it is? Serial number is KFI01452
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k180/scooby180374/Condor.jpg)
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looks 96/97
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Yep 96/97 Taiwan made with 1" Superforks and stem.
Saw that one on Ebay - get it built! Both me and Fruity have one of those, they are real nice!
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/DSC03230_small.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/condor_purple_10.jpg)
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excellent chaps, thought it might be - does anyone have any decals available as mine has no fork decals and the frame decals are scuffed in places?
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rather than starting a new thread, i thought i'd contribute to this one ;) , just got this condor delivered yesterday, wonder if anyone can tell me what year it is? Serial number is KFI01452
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k180/scooby180374/Condor.jpg)
nice one, was just a few miles down the road from me that one, unfortunately i didn't see it in time... :(
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Brian.
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v260/oberonspacefruit/98t8066-1.jpg)
a bit more hoffy goodness.
c'mon graeme with the pic already!
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c'mon graeme with the pic already!
Yeah come on, you not finished yet?!
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mark this kris gack i take it he carried on making or modifying products into the later 1990s
like the peregrines as ive a couple of sets of the phat jack 10/14 slotted vershions with big bearings
and much fatter spokes,they are that big they dont fit any other peregrine rim.so did
they /he get them specialy made or would you think peregrine made them for him.
Are these the ones you got off me at Xmas Epic? I should be able to find the history on them if they are as they came from a kid round my way.
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no the ones igot from you where 1 front peregrine hub ,2 rears a pair of superpro wheels rear was a sealed haro hub. :)
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Little Update...
After some intensive investigation by lord Fuzzy of the Nod and myself (mainly Mark to be fair!), we can conclude that this is indeed a 1993 Ramp Room Condor with the revised thicker drop-outs, pegbosses and headangle. The changes were annouced in late 1992 and marketed as the 93 Model.
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c'mon graeme with the pic already!
Yeah come on, you not finished yet?!
i need a scanner
someone post me one?
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Little Update...
After some intensive investigation by lord Fuzzy of the Nod and myself (mainly Mark to be fair!), we can conclude that this is indeed a 1993 Ramp Room Condor with the revised thicker drop-outs, pegbosses and headangle. The changes were annouced in late 1992 and marketed as the 93 Model.
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so is it the grail?
or does the search go on for a 92 model?
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head angle not as relaxed as you thought then?
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head angle not as relaxed as you thought then?
Nope, doesn't look like it. We need to do final measurements, but I believe it was only the SE built ones with the lazy headtube.
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Little Update...
After some intensive investigation by lord Fuzzy of the Nod and myself (mainly Mark to be fair!), we can conclude that this is indeed a 1993 Ramp Room Condor with the revised thicker drop-outs, pegbosses and headangle. The changes were annouced in late 1992 and marketed as the 93 Model.
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so is it the grail?
or does the search go on for a 92 model?
Hmmmm, don't know yet...it is still the grail, but I'll never rest until every Hoffman is mine! Wooooaaahh ha ha ha ha ha.
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Good thing is, the forks I got from Billy are the correct ones but with the newer sticker design from late 1993.
So the frame and forks are a correct set now!
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you got a taj too?
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you got a taj too?
Yep yep. :)
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i really gotta that episode of hi-5 transferred from vhs to .avi
they go into the hoffman factory (as it was in 92/93) and he has brand new frames, showing them off
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i really gotta that episode of hi-5 transferred from vhs to .avi
they go into the hoffman factory (as it was in 92/93) and he has brand new frames, showing them off
Yeah, I've got Fuzzy marks copy of that...he pulls a brand new chrome one out of box...makes me goo every time. ;D
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i really gotta that episode of hi-5 transferred from vhs to .avi
they go into the hoffman factory (as it was in 92/93) and he has brand new frames, showing them off
Yeah, I've got Fuzzy marks copy of that...he pulls a brand new chrome one out of box...makes me goo every time. ;D
Oh yeah that is the one you were copying to dvd when I still had hair!!!! :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: