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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: oberonspacefruit on March 12, 2007, 10:03 AM
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mods feel free to add options ;)
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Skyway for me :4_17_5:
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had to add at least 1 :LolLolLolLol:
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::) pk ripper of course :daumenhoch:
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Even though I don't like them very much I would say it would be the Raleigh Burner. Even people who were not really into BMX in the 80's mention a Raleigh Burner when BMX is mentioned.
Myself i like a Gen1 :daumenhoch:
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I'm sorry to have to say this....but a Burner for me.......if it wasn't for the horrible Burner (of which i loved mine BITD) an awful lot of kids would never of had the pleasure of BMX!
All the rest (for me) were never an option.....just dream bikes.
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has to be the PK Loopy for me ! :)
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its got to be the raleigh burner
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Had to add one too. But, I didn't vote for it...
For me it has to be the Raleigh Burner.
Where else would we be without the bike that bought BMX to the masses?
It's the bike that supported a whole industry on it's shoulders by encouraging trial of the sport at a low price...people got hooked, and then upgraded to a decent bike that suited their needs.
A true icon.
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i reluctantly voted burner.
first bmx i saw was a team murray, but seing a tuff burner with blue tyres blew my melon.
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Had to add one too. But, I didn't vote for it...
For me it has to be the Raleigh Burner.
Where else would we be without the bike that bought BMX to the masses?
It's the bike that supported a whole industry on it's shoulders by encouraging trial of the sport at a low price...people got hooked, and then upgraded to a decent bike that suited their needs.
A true icon.
my thoughts too :daumenhoch:
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Gotta be the PK Ripper for me , I remember reading BMX Weekly & other mags and the Shiners ad stood out beyond all others :4_17_5:.
The Burner was the start for loads to go on to greater things so I understand the voting for that , I never had one or wanted one though so I could'nt say it was an Icon for me .
My 1st proper BMX was a Pro Star then GT Pro .
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Gotta be the PK Ripper for me , I remember reading BMX Weekly & other mags and the Shiners ad stood out beyond all others :4_17_5:.
The Burner was the start for loads to go on to greater things so I understand the voting for that , I never had one or wanted one though so I could'nt say it was an Icon for me .
My 1st proper BMX was a Pro Star then GT Pro .
The Ripper is a Design Classic !! It should be in the Tate Modern ! :4_17_5:
....my 1st BMX was a Pro Star too !! ;)
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but seing a tuff burner with blue tyres blew my melon.
Sums it up as only Phil could!
Matt, knowing what we know now, no-one would have wanted a burner, but as a thirteen year old kid seeing a blue and yellow vision with weird yellow wheels, was a massive turning point in a lot of lives. :buck2:
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knowing what we know now, no-one would have wanted a burner, but as a thirteen year old kid seeing a blue and yellow vision with weird yellow wheels, was a massive turning point in a lot of lives. :buck2:
[/quote]exactly i got a burner but i wouldnt have one know
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burners are gonna be up there but rippers where like those lambo contach posters, they just looked so cool
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Without a doubt it's gotta be the Skyway T/a. Track, park, wherever. It was there. :daumenhoch:
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burners are gonna be up there but rippers where like those lambo contach posters, they just looked so cool
if a Ripper was a Lambo, the what was the Burner ? The Ford Escort ???
I guess it depends how you define 'iconic' ? As accessable to the masses ? Or desired but unattainable by most ? ::)
Never had a Burner myself btw, not then, not now, not ever ! :D ;D
icon (REPRESENTATION) Show phonetics
noun [C]
a very famous person or thing considered as representing a set of beliefs or a way of life:
Marilyn Monroe and James Dean are still icons for many young people.
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Shame my moderator powers don't extend to making sure the Burner don't win :crazy2:
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Shame my moderator powers don't extend to making sure the Burner don't win :crazy2:
well, lets just keep voting for the Ripper !! LOL !!
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tuffy
supergoose is a great bike but i think the Pk ripper was the dream bike of the masses
race, freestyle the lot :daumenhoch:
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i had a burner as my first bike :4_17_5: i voted burner
i wanted a ripper so i built this
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/c73/craigtheman/DSCF0310.jpg)
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I cast my mind back to when i was a kid and there was only one bike for me and that was the Performer, freestyle was my thing and the bike that was all over my walls was the Performer.
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burners are gonna be up there but rippers where like those lambo contach posters, they just looked so cool
if a Ripper was a Lambo, the what was the Burner ? The Ford Escort ???
I guess it depends how you define 'iconic' ? As accessable to the masses ? Or desired but unattainable by most ? ::)
Never had a Burner myself btw, not then, not now, not ever ! :D ;D
icon (REPRESENTATION) Show phonetics
noun [C]
a very famous person or thing considered as representing a set of beliefs or a way of life:
Marilyn Monroe and James Dean are still icons for many young people.
burner = DAF
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I had one of those Lambo posters on my wall
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I voted for PK Ripper, even though I have never had one or wanted one. For me though it is one of the most beautiful frame and forks ever made, and you could never mistake any other frame for it.
As for the Burner, again I never had one, but that was probably because I missed the whole Burner thing as I was living in the US when BMX started over here and by the time I returned to the UK I had already started racing so a Burner was never an option. Thing is with the lower end Burners I look at them and every angle is wrong. I like the Aero Burner though :daumenhoch:
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I cast my mind back to when i was a kid and there was only one bike for me and that was the Performer, freestyle was my thing and the bike that was all over my walls was the Performer.
Me too dude, that's why it had to be added to the list. :smitten:
I love Performer's...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/stodgy_gt_pit_big_4.jpg)
But a Mk1 Burner is still the most iconic in the UK IMO.
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Deffo Burner.Although i always liked the supergoose 3 and was well chuffed when i got one.I hadn't heard of rippers ,but then again i didn't race. :daumenhoch:
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Rippers were the dream bikes of the day .. Thankfully i never had to suffer a burner, First BMX was a puch murray which was bought from a car showroom :idiot2: but it was prolly just as shit as the burner was..
I don't even think the burner was out when i had my first bmx :-\
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Well, I'm at a loss :(
The Burner is fookin' winning, I can't believe it :'( :idiot2:
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burner for me as well im afraid :-[ and i think the ratios are pretty accurate as well rippers and tas were aspirational but when i think of they day burners is what i remember
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Iconic!!!! 8) 8) 8) 8)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/h65/burnerworld/Tuff1.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/h65/burnerworld/Tuff2.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/h65/burnerworld/Tuff3.jpg)
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Its a tricky one, yeah the burner is the most well know because they were cheap and alot of people had them. So is a ford focus but i would not call one of them iconic :-\ :-\
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the tuff burner is an enigma really why did they spend so much on wheels for a complete POS
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the tuff burner is an enigma really why did they spend so much on wheels for a complete POS
So that Average Joe could get a cool looking BMX bike without spending £200+
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i reluctantly voted burner.
first bmx i saw was a team murray, but seing a tuff burner with blue tyres blew my melon.
Must admit first bmx i saw was a blue mk1 burner. Hooked ever since :D :D :D
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the tuff burner is an enigma really why did they spend so much on wheels for a complete POS
So that Average Joe could get a cool looking BMX bike without spending £200+
cant argue with that
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Yes you can, go on :LolLolLolLol:
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i cant , when i think of what else was around then it was a nice bike , i had an alien out of a catalogue POS my mate had a yamaha BYZ (fookin quality bike) peugeot black lions never seen one since and my other mate had a tuff burner, six month later we started to see better bikes ie mongooses even silverfoxes but the tuff looked rad
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You know I'm going to play devils advocate here and say none of those are the most Iconic. I think the Raleigh Grifter was the most iconic. Ok it wasn't a true BMX, but how many of us started out on one of those and rode it the way we would end up riding our bmx's a few years later. I would say it was raleighs first attempt at making a BMX.
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mongoose motomag for me because redline has no representation :coolsmiley:
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Got to be the burner, hands down !!
Definately not the most wanted but gotta be the most iconic countrywide. I assume you aren't referring to just bmx'rs? If you asked anyone other than a bmx'r the name of a bike, they'd probably come back with 'burner' !?!?
Shame really :2funny:
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this is a icon :daumenhoch:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m279/zed2000/buffR.jpg)
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yup!
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has to be the burner for me too.
i'd have killed for one of them at the time.
anybody that got a burner at the time would have been over the moon with it bad angles or not.
who looked at such things as a kid.
as for the ripper.
yes now it is an icon but at the time i can remember everyone going on about how bad they were cause they broke lol.
mind never stopped me having one now lol.
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v229/dordymush/ygoiu.jpg)
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Yeah love those ultra burners ::) ::) ::) ::) :LolLolLolLol:
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Have to agree it would be the Skyway TA and well excited that they are bringing out a 25th anniversary model, got my name on that waiting list but I won't hold my breath.
Where is the DB Silver Streak on that list or the best bike made in the 80's, the Harry Leary Turbo.
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Yeah love those ultra burners ::) ::) ::) ::) :LolLolLolLol:
PMFSL, yep that is why everyone loves a black and gold Ripper. Reminds them of the Ultra Burner! :LolLolLolLol:
So that's why it won bike of the year... :10_2_12:
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my mate had a yamaha BYZ (fookin quality bike)
I had a Yamaha BYZ, I loved that bike, I really need to get hold of one. Here is a picture of me on my Yamaha (complete with Kuwi stickersand Skyway padset) racing in 82 at Southampton.
Please note the absolutely MASSIVE race helmet. I was such a fashion icon.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v518/stidds/stiddsracing.jpg)
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Its a tricky one, yeah the burner is the most well know because they were cheap and alot of people had them. So is a ford focus but i would not call one of them iconic :-\ :-\
A vw beetle was cheap crap, look how iconic and popular that is :daumenhoch:
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you can't compare a beetle to a raleigh burner!!!
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Its a tricky one, yeah the burner is the most well know because they were cheap and alot of people had them. So is a ford focus but i would not call one of them iconic :-\ :-\
A vw beetle was cheap crap, look how iconic and popular that is :daumenhoch:
Iconic for the design though, most probs. And that they were bullet proof and went for ever which can't be said for the raleigh burner
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"bullet proof and went forever" more like rust buckets and catch fire. Still love them though. ;)
For anyone outside of or just starting into BMX the Burner was the bike they knew. The Ripper and TA were iconic to those in the know and that is why the Burner is winning the vote.
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Obviously all the burner boys voting for that pile of shite carbospec heavy steel grifter copies called burners...lol
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Talk about iconic design, and they never snapped
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g2/jimmyp12/mongoose2.jpg)
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When did Rippers make an appearance? I never saw one bitd. Only bikes I remember from very early 80s were Mongoose, Skyway, Puch, Hutch, Torker, Redline, Robinson, raleigh, wilson, Kuwahara, ProStar & Diamondback. Was there one called a Magnum or something? I may have just made that up :crazy2: grey matter playing tricks...
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i had to vote for the pro performer, i wanted one from the minute i saw one, it took me all of 84 (selling every other toy i owned, doing odd jobs for my neighbours) to get the money for one when i was 13, for two years solid me and bike went and did everything together,
then i sold it for a ford escort / girls ;)
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Its a tricky one, yeah the burner is the most well know because they were cheap and alot of people had them. So is a ford focus but i would not call one of them iconic :-\ :-\
A vw beetle was cheap crap, look how iconic and popular that is :daumenhoch:
yeah but good for jumping over 'on a RIPPER :2funny:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m279/zed2000/sepkripperjump.jpg)
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Its a tricky one, yeah the burner is the most well know because they were cheap and alot of people had them. So is a ford focus but i would not call one of them iconic :-\ :-\
A vw beetle was cheap crap, look how iconic and popular that is :daumenhoch:
yeah but good for jumping over 'on a RIPPER :2funny:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m279/zed2000/sepkripperjump.jpg)
Nice pic :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :daumenhoch:
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Its a tricky one, yeah the burner is the most well know because they were cheap and alot of people had them. So is a ford focus but i would not call one of them iconic :-\ :-\
A vw beetle was cheap crap, look how iconic and popular that is :daumenhoch:
Theres a broken Ripper in the Tech and Resto Section,it wasn't that one was it.. :LolLolLolLol: who said burners where crap!! :LolLolLolLol:
yeah but good for jumping over 'on a RIPPER :2funny:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m279/zed2000/sepkripperjump.jpg)
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Its a tricky one, yeah the burner is the most well know because they were cheap and alot of people had them. So is a ford focus but i would not call one of them iconic :-\ :-\
A vw beetle was cheap crap, look how iconic and popular that is :daumenhoch:
Theres a broken Ripper in the Tech and Resto Section,it wasn't that one was it.. :LolLolLolLol: who said burners where crap!! :LolLolLolLol:
yeah but good for jumping over 'on a RIPPER :2funny:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m279/zed2000/sepkripperjump.jpg)
Have you stuck those supergoose decals on yet dude :smitten: :smitten:
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Have you stuck those supergoose decals on yet dude :smitten: :smitten:
Not yet dude they are to good,didn't want to use them up,but i've just got another set off the same guy,so i will put them on now. :4_17_5:
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When did Rippers make an appearance? I never saw one bitd. Only bikes I remember from very early 80s were Mongoose, Skyway, Puch, Hutch, Torker, Redline, Robinson, raleigh, wilson, Kuwahara, ProStar & Diamondback. Was there one called a Magnum or something? I may have just made that up :crazy2: grey matter playing tricks...
The PK Ripper appeared latter part of 70's I think , it depended really on when you got into BMX also . The TA (83 ?) for instance is a pup compared to the Ripper . I saw the Shiners ads from about 81/82 so that vision of a Ripper came early on .
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rippers broke?
mk1 burners fell to bits
seen the build quality where the tubes meet the BB?
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I would have to say the Burner also. :LolLolLolLol:
It was the bike that made bmx affordable for everyone.
Matt
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:daumenhoch: if its good enough for the buff'mister :daumenhoch:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m279/zed2000/buff8.jpg)
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where's all the action pics of the iconic burner?
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Littlewoods catalogue. :D
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and another ::)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m279/zed2000/RL-Osborn-PK-endo.gif)
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No one is disputing that the Ripper is an awesome bike and an Icon in their own right.
But, the Tuff Burner was the first BMX I ever saw and it blew my socks off. Compared to all the other dross bikes that were around at the time, this was the dawning of a new era.
That is why IMO it is THE most iconic BMX. Whatever came after it is irrelevant. I know the Ripper had been in production since the late 70s compared to the early 80s for the Burner, but they hadn't really hit our shores or got any notoriety until the craze really took off and the Burner is one of the bikes that helped the craze take off. So the Ripper should thank the Burner for that! :daumenhoch:
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::) am i driving you mad yet ::)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m279/zed2000/IMG_0001_edited-2.jpg)
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That is one cool dude, zed :smitten:
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ok lucy 'just for you ::)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m279/zed2000/IMG_0004_edited.jpg)
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T/A
would have been the ripper if they were more attainable, but the T/A trancended it's own era.
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Though it pains me to say it, the humble Burner. I think the dream icon is the Ripper though.
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No one is disputing that the Ripper is an awesome bike and an Icon in their own right.
But, the Tuff Burner was the first BMX I ever saw and it blew my socks off. Compared to all the other dross bikes that were around at the time, this was the dawning of a new era.
That is why IMO it is THE most iconic BMX. Whatever came after it is irrelevant. I know the Ripper had been in production since the late 70s compared to the early 80s for the Burner, but they hadn't really hit our shores or got any notoriety until the craze really took off and the Burner is one of the bikes that helped the craze take off. So the Ripper should thank the Burner for that! :daumenhoch:
Blah , Blah ,Blah , Blah , Blah , Blah :LolLolLolLol:
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ok lucy 'just for you ::)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m279/zed2000/IMG_0004_edited.jpg)
I bet that ripper broke in half once it got down that ramp........ :LolLolLolLol:
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What about the Patterson pro????
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Zed, the only problem is that Buff didn't ride a stock Ripper at all, it was a specially made one with thicker tubes, etc. It just looked like a Ripper :LolLolLolLol:
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It's not called a Burner for no reason you know......
BURN......ER
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where's all the action pics of the iconic burner?
Will these do... 8)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/h65/burnerworld/Action1.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/h65/burnerworld/Action3.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/h65/burnerworld/Action2.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/h65/burnerworld/Action4.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/h65/burnerworld/Action5.jpg)
And just check out these kids (all on Burners)... having round the track...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/h65/burnerworld/BurnerShot1.jpg)
dreaming of one day becoming something like their Hero...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/h65/burnerworld/Action6.jpg)
8) 8) 8) 8)
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Zed, the only problem is that Buff didn't ride a stock Ripper at all, it was a specially made one with thicker tubes, etc. It just looked like a Ripper :LolLolLolLol:
still a ripper marty ::)
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Zed, the only problem is that Buff didn't ride a stock Ripper at all, it was a specially made one with thicker tubes, etc. It just looked like a Ripper :LolLolLolLol:
still a ripper marty ::)
You got me there, just a beefier version of a Ripper :LolLolLolLol:
Cool to see the pics of the old Westway track even if it is a Burner ;). Just noticed the Heff's sticker on the green forks in the last pic of Ruffs :daumenhoch:
Perhaps there are two aspects to this Icon lark, to a BMXer from the inside looking out a true BMX bike like the Ripper or TA is the Iconic bike but to the public who are outsiders looking in, then the Burner is probably the Icon :daumenhoch:
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No one is disputing that the Ripper is an awesome bike and an Icon in their own right.
But, the Tuff Burner was the first BMX I ever saw and it blew my socks off. Compared to all the other dross bikes that were around at the time, this was the dawning of a new era.
That is why IMO it is THE most iconic BMX. Whatever came after it is irrelevant. I know the Ripper had been in production since the late 70s compared to the early 80s for the Burner, but they hadn't really hit our shores or got any notoriety until the craze really took off and the Burner is one of the bikes that helped the craze take off. So the Ripper should thank the Burner for that! :daumenhoch:
Blah , Blah ,Blah , Blah , Blah , Blah :LolLolLolLol:
:D :LolLolLolLol:
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not at all, the trusted old mongoose around 79/80 was the bike to have,
everyone around where we lived payed into a club at our local bike shop,
can't remember how much i paid a week but when it was paid up, :smitten: :smitten:
never looked back, still love the sport today, i'd say more today :)
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here's me flying high ( well about 4 inches) on me Buff Turner. 83-84 maybe
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a322/tricknuts/burner.jpg)
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Then again who said icons have to be any good?
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v432/Lazarou63/madonna-see-through-1.jpg)
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Then again who said icons have to be any good?
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v432/Lazarou63/madonna-see-through-1.jpg)
i'd hit it :smitten:
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Then again who said icons have to be any good?
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v432/Lazarou63/madonna-see-through-1.jpg)
yeah but we would all have a go with madge's funbags :buck2:
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Really?
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v432/Lazarou63/madonnayikes.jpg)
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ok i take it back :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
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ok i take it back :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
:LolLolLolLol:
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I voted for the Ripper ???
I think the TA was the best all round F&F.
But the ripper was like no other & what a name "PK RIPPER"
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id still give her one :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
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I voted for the Ripper ???
I think the TA was the best all round F&F.
But the ripper was like no other & what a name "PK RIPPER"
THE TRUE ICON :4_17_5:
Like I said before , the only evidence is the early Shiners ads in the mags ;)
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Beard,
Spot on ... :daumenhoch:
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burner all the way
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Talk about iconic design, and they never snapped
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g2/jimmyp12/mongoose2.jpg)
i couldnt agree more but im biased
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TA for me but i always wanted a ripper. Its close with the votes between the two!!! I thought the ripper would be miles clear of it. Burner will win obviously cos they were common as muck but a true great. :daumenhoch:
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i voted ripper, even tho ive never been fussed, but then i remembered browsing through the museum a couple of years ago and there was a bike i glanced upon that brought those long hot early eighties old school summers back to me in an instant, and although i like to jest about them, there is probably nothing more evocative than an "extra burner"
youd have to sell alot of lucky heather to buy one now :LolLolLolLol:
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id still give her one :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
me too. god invented paper bags for a reason you know :2funny:
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Burner will win obviously cos they were common as muck but a true great. :daumenhoch:
a true great?
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For me it HAS to be the Ripper (even non BMXers know the "PK Ripper") followed very closely by Haro freestyler (Gen1 obviously)
:) DINGO :)
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who gives a flying shite what non bmxers know?
they don't, that's for sure.
ripper is the one though!
can't believe this forum has voted the raleigh burner as the most iconic bike of the 80's.
fooking hell.
the burner was popular for like 1 year. 1 YEAR. the 80's were 10 YEARS LONG. where the fook were yer?
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who gives a flying shite what non bmxers know?
they don't, that's for sure.
ripper is the one though!
can't believe this forum has voted the raleigh burner as the most iconic bike of the 80's.
fooking hell.
the burner was popular for like 1 year. 1 YEAR. the 80's were 10 YEARS LONG. where the fook were yer?
It just enforces the fact its an icon!
I dont gice a fcuk about cars but know the name Porshe and Ferrari, same thing :rant:
:) DINGO :)
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you cannot compare the burner's 1 year of popularity to a porsche or a ferrari
most iconic bike of 1983 . . . maybe. at a push. to some.
but the 80's? come on
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Some iconic pics of the eighties :LolLolLolLol:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p88/dirtbiker250f/bmx2.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p88/dirtbiker250f/bmx.jpg)
Took em at me mums last night :) she has loads of em
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you cannot compare the burner's 1 year of popularity to a porsche or a ferrari
most iconic bike of 1983 . . . maybe. at a push. to some.
but the 80's? come on
I was talking about the Ripper, I hate Burners :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1:
(even though they were made here in Nottingham and I was at the launch at the factory)
:) DINGO :)
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lol i see
i don't hate burners. they were were only really around for a year or so. the people who were into bmx got on something better. the people that weren't just left them in the shed.
got to wonder if more people would have stuck with bmx if they had got something better to start with. not more expensive either. just a better designed bike. did more harm than good in my eyes. raleigh had the chance to make bmx huge in this country. and they blew it. big time. they were the household name, the name that the bike buying parents trusted, they had the years of bike building experience. they had the market cornered. the shops loaded with their stock.
they didn't just drop the ball. they rammed a rusty spike through it then shoved it in a bucket of acid.
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lol i see
i don't hate burners. they were were only really around for a year or so. the people who were into bmx got on something better. the people that weren't just left them in the shed.
got to wonder if more people would have stuck with bmx if they had got something better to start with. not more expensive either. just a better designed bike. did more harm than good in my eyes. raleigh had the chance to make bmx huge in this country. and they blew it. big time. they were the household name, the name that the bike buying parents trusted, they had the years of bike building experience. they had the market cornered. the shops loaded with their stock.
they didn't just drop the ball. they rammed a rusty spike through it then shoved it in a bucket of acid.
Ohh nasty
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i like the burner restos i see on here
i have big respect for anyone that takes any bike and restores it to such mint condition. whether it be a burner, or a hutch. same deal
but to say a burner is the iconic bike of the 80s . . . waaaaah?
did you spend that decade hankering after a tuff (or TOUGH as it turns out) burner?
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burners may have only been about for a year round your end gra! and maybe in the shops for a year......
But i tell you man, up here they were around for a lot longer that that....my thigh muscles still bear the scars.....
they were the main bike on the estate that i lived on, i never saw a kuwahara, ripper, ta, even a goose.
they were groundbreaking in terms of the bikes that the local kids had, looked way better, and performed way better than all the choppers, grifters, cowhorn bikes that were there contemporaries.
i never got a new burner, but spent 5 years swapping, upgrading, and restoring my way up the burner heirachy, red mk1, gold tuff burner, chrome burner etc....
I suppose it would be ok if your parents presented you with a nice new ripper on christmas morning, but mine would say "whats wrong with the one you got?"
the argument of "well the geometery is all over the place" would have got me a slap!
burners were icons for some of us.
i restored a mk1 recently, and took it to the skatepark, and there was no way on gods earth i would even consider riding over the lip of the ramp....it felt like it would snap as as soon as the wheel went over the coping.
but as a memory, of what got me into bmx, and got me into it again years later, unfortunately, has raleigh stamped all over it.
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i had a GHP all top bollox on it and then snapped the frame, while it was gettin repaired i used a burner frame along with all my bits and it rode particulaly well, along with the GHP pro forks and tonne weight frame it actually felt invincable and served me well till the geezy was repaired. i nearly bought a caravan!!!!!!!! :LolLolLolLol:
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i never got a new burner, but spent 5 years swapping, upgrading, and restoring my way up the burner heirachy, red mk1, gold tuff burner, chrome burner etc....
5 years of burner ownership?
you were on a burner in 1987?
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erm, yeah, i left school in 88, and i got the twip toptube mystery in the 5th year, just before i left.
give or take a year.
i hated the first ones i had though.
the red one came as a scratched up f+f and lacked any of the wild colours of the new burners.
by the time id traded up by swapping shit, it was a reasonably decent bike.
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burners may have only been about for a year round your end gra! and maybe in the shops for a year......
But i tell you man, up here they were around for a lot longer that that....my thigh muscles still bear the scars.....
they were the main bike on the estate that i lived on, i never saw a kuwahara, ripper, ta, even a goose.
they were groundbreaking in terms of the bikes that the local kids had, looked way better, and performed way better than all the choppers, grifters, cowhorn bikes that were there contemporaries.
i never got a new burner, but spent 5 years swapping, upgrading, and restoring my way up the burner heirachy, red mk1, gold tuff burner, chrome burner etc....
I suppose it would be ok if your parents presented you with a nice new ripper on christmas morning, but mine would say "whats wrong with the one you got?"
the argument of "well the geometery is all over the place" would have got me a slap!
burners were icons for some of us.
i restored a mk1 recently, and took it to the skatepark, and there was no way on gods earth i would even consider riding over the lip of the ramp....it felt like it would snap as as soon as the wheel went over the coping.
but as a memory, of what got me into bmx, and got me into it again years later, unfortunately, has raleigh stamped all over it.
Amen brother! :daumenhoch:
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jesus.
where i lived, 100's of kids got burners in 83
by xmas 84 99% had stopped riding
those that continued all upgraded to better bikes
by "better" i am talking superfox, dp, rickman - that kind of better
not TA's though. there was the odd GT about. and maybe a haro or 2. oh and few gooses.
i ended up with most of them :)
in the gang i rode with in 85-87 it was dp's and fox's (there was a shop not too far away that had the MT range.)
oh i did ride with a kid who had a mk2 burner, but he never had a mk1 burner. started off on the mk2.
and another mate had an old DB silver streak.
another riding buddy of mine had a zapper, then a rickman
after 87 it was just me on my own really. i rode my fox until it bent/cracked, then a gen one haro. i rode with a skateboard gang on ghetto ramps.
we were kinda influenced by what we saw in action bike.
hence the alloy wheels. as that was what was in action bike, after 85.
i always wanted a burner before i had a bmx, as they were in the shops
but after riding a year, and reading the mags, no one wanted them. fook knows what happened to them all. there must be loads of them kicking around somewhere in stafford. in the late 80's they were literally worthless. the tuff's on them were fooked after a year's hard riding, and the bikes were too hoopty to use a base for anything worthwhile
the mk2 burner showed promise when they "went for it with chromo aero tubes" - we expected a raleigh TA. however they must have gone for it in the lead factory as the mk2's seemed even heavier than the mk1's.
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i was stuck on my burner for 3.5 years or so. A mate put me out of my misery ny donating a F+F. The F+F was the only burner bits left on it by then.
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was the same in my neck of the woods, burners,choppers etc.
Of the high end bikes I can only recall some richo (local landlords boy - who moved down from Rom) he had a TA, that was it, everything else started as a burner, falcon pro or something else and gradual upgrades of components and the odd f+f (DP etc) to a much better stead, but had never seen a hutch or ripper etc in the flesh!!
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if you look at this thread from a different angle, then one of THE most iconic bikes of the eighties has got to be mr fiolas yellow gt, everyone can picture that bike in an instant im sure, i dont think anyones bike stood out as much as that initially did BITD.
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jesus.
where i lived, 100's of kids got burners in 83
by xmas 84 99% had stopped riding
those that continued all upgraded to better bikes
by "better" i am talking superfox, dp, rickman - that kind of better
not TA's though. there was the odd GT about. and maybe a haro or 2. oh and few gooses.
i ended up with most of them :)
in the gang i rode with in 85-87 it was dp's and fox's (there was a shop not too far away that had the MT range.)
oh i did ride with a kid who had a mk2 burner, but he never had a mk1 burner. started off on the mk2.
and another mate had an old DB silver streak.
another riding buddy of mine had a zapper, then a rickman
after 87 it was just me on my own really. i rode my fox until it bent/cracked, then a gen one haro. i rode with a skateboard gang on ghetto ramps.
we were kinda influenced by what we saw in action bike.
hence the alloy wheels. as that was what was in action bike, after 85.
i always wanted a burner before i had a bmx, as they were in the shops
but after riding a year, and reading the mags, no one wanted them. fook knows what happened to them all. there must be loads of them kicking around somewhere in stafford. in the late 80's they were literally worthless. the tuff's on them were fooked after a year's hard riding, and the bikes were too hoopty to use a base for anything worthwhile
the mk2 burner showed promise when they "went for it with chromo aero tubes" - we expected a raleigh TA. however they must have gone for it in the lead factory as the mk2's seemed even heavier than the mk1's.
Gra, I think you are getting wrapped up in a desirable bike. No one thinks a burner is desirable or good. They were shite and weighed the same as a small country, but we didn't know that back in the early days as there was nothing to compare it to, it was just an insight of things to come
But in 1982/83 when most people were riding beaten up grifters or racers with bars turned up or racers with cow horns. This little blue and yellow bike was something from another planet.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/h65/burnerworld/Tuff2.jpg)
That is what makes it an icon cos it changed what kids wanted and put BMX on the map for a whole generation of kids.
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yeh iconic for 82/83
1 year
not the 80's!!!
i think i rode for too long.
did people who rode before the rise of the burner want one?
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:LolLolLolLol:
It may have only been for a year or two, but it helped kickstart the BMX generation in this country. So it HAS to be an Icon for that reason alone.
I would have killed for one BITD, i only had a red and yellow MK1 burner. :'(
I think you are just denying yourself your love of Tuffs! ;D
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tuffs were the best thing about that bike.
the bikes i would have killed for were the smart ones in the mags
like the kuwis and the gooses
i remember wanting a burner, but that was because they were actually in the shops, and fairly affordable. but really all i wanted was just a "bmx". and i got one. a right POS from a garage or somewhere. but after 1 year of riding, wanting a burner was the last thing on my mind.
i see what you mean about iconic though. to the masses (who rode for like 10 minutes) the raleigh burner was bmx. on the other hand, to the masses, "streetdance" is probably an "iconic" hiphop track from the 80's. i guess i just can't see it from a layman's point of view.
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on the other hand, to the masses, "streetdance" is probably an "iconic" hiphop track from the 80's. i guess i just can't see it from a layman's point of view.
PMSL that kinda sums it up!
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I had my super burner for 2 years but even after the first year i had bought black skyways for it and cw handlebars ;)