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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: jimmyp on March 24, 2007, 07:41 PM
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So suddenly as we know it in the late 80s, was the mountain bike to blame?. :( :( :( :'( :'( :'(
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Nintendo.
All the kids who rode BMX got too old to ride them... :LolLolLolLol:
The next generation wanted to play computer games as Nintendo marketed their games consoles better than bike companies marketed their bmx's.
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Nintendo.
All the kids who rode BMX got too old to ride them... :LolLolLolLol:
The next generation wanted to play computer games as Nintendo marketed their games consoles better than bike companies marketed their bmx's.
The thing is i had a com 64 and it never put me off bmx cos in the summer thats all we did all day and night, ride around on our bikes :(
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He's right you know, and women was the other reason!! :daumenhoch:
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all things seem to die when you stop doing them :daumenhoch: but did they ?
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On "Joe Kid", Bob Osborne mentions some crazy statistics regarding the sales of nintendo consoles versus bmx's.
Can't remember the figures, but I do remember it was kinda shocking.
Brian.
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I think it was mainly the Gameboys that swayed them. It was a different class to Donkey Kong and Snoopy Tennis and that Popeye game in the boat...
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Fooking games machines, bastards. :LolLolLolLol:
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if i wasnt so busy playing my ps2 i would comment some more :LolLolLolLol:
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if i wasnt so busy playing my ps2 i would comment some more :LolLolLolLol:
its all your falt, you killed bmx :LolLolLolLol:
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if i wasnt so busy playing my ps2 i would comment some more :LolLolLolLol:
its all your falt, you killed bmx :LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol: but i never stopped riding :yahoo_silent: :angel:
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if i wasnt so busy playing my ps2 i would comment some more :LolLolLolLol:
its all your falt, you killed bmx :LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol: but i never stopped riding :yahoo_silent: :angel:
Thats my point, i had games machines when i was a kid, comy 64, comy Amiga, Sega Mega Drive, but it was just somthing else i did as a kid. It never stopped me riding my bike, so did it really kill bmx, im not so sure. I thought that as soon as mountain bikes came out that was it, one kid got one then everyone had to have one :'( :'( :'(
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I stopped when I got a Car.
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skateboards for me and everyone around cumbria.
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there was probably many factors, but i think the main one was the marketing of bmx. a lot of smaller manufacturers got swallowed up by the huge multi-nationals in the name of marketing. no-one wanted to be seen on a bmx you could buy from kmart no matter how good their pro rider was.
oh, and also, every generation after mine are just a bunch of lounge room lazy bastards :LolLolLolLol:
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I thought it died when mountain bikes came out... i never liked /wanted or owned a mtb and didn't get my first bmx which i'd always wanted untill mtbs had just come out!! But in a way the mtb craze eventually died out and bmxs once again became the cool bike to own ...i also notice nowadays even "old" guys n gals can get away with riding them in the streets and no one bats an eye lid or thinks "your a bit old to be riding that" lol
I dont think skateboards had anything to do with it either as they've always been around , plus me and my friends had them aswell as bmx's anyway.
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for me, around 84 my manager and owner wanted me to turn pro racing,
i just couldn't see it, how could i earn a living riding a bike that i rode
every week :crazy2:
anyway got a job working on cars and used to just ride my bike and practice my tricks in
break time then one day i felt emberrased to ride a bike,
thought everyone was looking at me for the wrong reasons so
that was it, bmx, game over :'( >:(
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I quit bmx for breakdancing in 85, and this was the same for most of the kids around my way. I tried to do both for a while, but in the end breakdancing took over. I'm not saying breakdancing killed bmx, but it certainly didn't help.
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Mcdonalds and nintendo and nonces!
Mcdonalds,when i was a kid mcdonalds was a treat now kids have em every day,just look at all the fet kids about do you think they really want to go out on a bike?
Nintendo,why go out when you can do all the things you would have done sat in front of a tv!,we made camps played soldiers,made bows an arrows,and rode bmx all day long!
Nonces,because of them people are to scared to let there kids stay out late or go to the park on there own,or even ride to other parts of town to meet there mates!
Its a whole new world to when we were kids,full of fast foods and disposable lifestyles an i for one think thats really quite sad.
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Why did BMX die ????????????????????????????????????????
it didnt, it had a little nap, jeez, we all get tired at some point...
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Mcdonalds and nintendo and nonces!
Mcdonalds,when i was a kid mcdonalds was a treat now kids have em every day,just look at all the fet kids about do you think they really want to go out on a bike?
Nintendo,why go out when you can do all the things you would have done sat in front of a tv!,we made camps played soldiers,made bows an arrows,and rode bmx all day long!
Nonces,because of them people are to scared to let there kids stay out late or go to the park on there own,or even ride to other parts of town to meet there mates!
Its a whole new world to when we were kids,full of fast foods and disposable lifestyles an i for one think thats really quite sad.
Bingo ;)
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Why did BMX die ????????????????????????????????????????
it didnt, it had a little nap, jeez, we all get tired at some point...
The same can be asked of skateboarding, and BMX like skateboarding certainly went through a dark and lonely period but it didn't die, more like a diet and it lost some fat. Someone mentioned about the big brands and I think that has a lot to do with it, when the mainstream and huge corporates move in the budgets get consolidated and the little guys can't compete. When the interest wanes the big guys move out and the little guys come back in which is what happened to BMX.
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one of my fave's
According to today's regulators and bureaucrats, those of us who were kids in the 60's, 70's and early 80's probably shouldn't have survived, because our baby cots were covered with brightly coloured lead-based paint which was promptly chewed and licked.
We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, or latches on doors or cabinets and it was fine to play with pans.
When we rode our bikes, we wore no helmets, just flip-flops and fluorescent 'spokey dokey's' on our wheels.
As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or airbags - riding in the passenger seat was a treat.
We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle and it tasted the same.
We ate chips, bread and butter pudding and drank fizzy juice with sugar in it, but we were never overweight because we were always outside playing.
We shared one drink with four friends, from one bottle or can and no-one actually died from this.
We would spend hours building go-carts out of scraps and then went top speed down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into stinging nettles a few times, we learned to solve the problem.
We would leave home in the morning and could play all day, as long as we were back before it got dark. No one was able to reach us and no one minded.
We did not have Play stations or X-Boxes, no video games at all. No 99 channels on TV, no videotape movies, no surround sound, no mobile phones, no personal computers, no DVDs, no Internet chat rooms. We had friends - we went outside and found them.
We played elastics and rounders, and sometimes that ball really hurt! We fell out of trees, got cut and broke bones but there were no law suits.
We had full on fist fights but no prosecution followed from other parents.
We played chap-the-door-run-away and were actually afraid of the owners catching us.
We walked to friends' homes. We also, believe it or not, WALKED to school; we didn't rely on mummy or daddy to drive us to school, which was just round the corner.
We made up games with sticks and tennis balls. We rode bikes in packs of 7 and wore our coats by only the hood.
The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke a law was unheard of...They actually sided with the law.
This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers and problem solvers and inventors, ever. The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas. We had freedom, failure, success and
responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all. And you're one of them. Congratulations!
Pass this on to others who have had the luck to grow as real kids, before lawyers and government regulated our lives, for our own good. For those of you who aren't old enough, thought you might like to read about us.
This my friends, is surprisingly frightening......and it might put a smile on your face: The majority of students in universities today were born in 1986........They are called youth.
They have never heard of We are the World, We are the children, and the Uptown Girl they know is by Westlife not Billy Joel.
They have never heard of Rick Astley, Bananarama, Nena Cherry or Belinda Carlisle.
For them, there has always been only one Germany and one Vietnam.
AIDS has existed since they were born. CD's have existed since they were born. Michael Jackson has always been white.
To them John Travolta has always been round in shape and they can't imagine how this fat guy could be a god of dance.
They believe that Charlie's Angels and Mission Impossible are films from last year. They can never imagine life before computers.
They'll never have pretended to be the A Team, Red Hand Gang or the Famous Five.
They'll never have applied to be on Jim'll Fix It or Why Don't You. They can't believe a black and white television ever existed. And they will never understand how we could leave the house without a mobile phone
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if i wasnt so busy playing my ps2 i would comment some more :LolLolLolLol:
its all your falt, you killed bmx :LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol: but i never stopped riding :yahoo_silent: :angel:
Thats my point, i had games machines when i was a kid, comy 64, comy Amiga, Sega Mega Drive, but it was just somthing else i did as a kid. It never stopped me riding my bike, so did it really kill bmx, im not so sure. I thought that as soon as mountain bikes came out that was it, one kid got one then everyone had to have one :'( :'( :'(
It was like that around here...the same lad who was the first to get a BMX, (red burner)....then a Supergoose....then a Haro FST I think (the white frame)...was the first to get a mountain bike as soon as one appeared in the shop...but he was quite spoilt and just got what he wanted when he wanted. BMX lasted a bit longer for me becuase I was heavily into the racing and that stopped mostly I think cos my dad got ill and couldn't take me to all the meetings anymore...but by then everyone was riding moutnain bikes around here...cept me....I went on to get a racer cos I'd always wanted one. :)
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one of my fave's
According to today's regulators and bureaucrats, those of us who were kids in the 60's, 70's and early 80's probably shouldn't have survived, because our baby cots were covered with brightly coloured lead-based paint which was promptly chewed and licked.
We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, or latches on doors or cabinets and it was fine to play with pans.
When we rode our bikes, we wore no helmets, just flip-flops and fluorescent 'spokey dokey's' on our wheels.
As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or airbags - riding in the passenger seat was a treat.
We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle and it tasted the same.
We ate chips, bread and butter pudding and drank fizzy juice with sugar in it, but we were never overweight because we were always outside playing.
We shared one drink with four friends, from one bottle or can and no-one actually died from this.
We would spend hours building go-carts out of scraps and then went top speed down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into stinging nettles a few times, we learned to solve the problem.
We would leave home in the morning and could play all day, as long as we were back before it got dark. No one was able to reach us and no one minded.
We did not have Play stations or X-Boxes, no video games at all. No 99 channels on TV, no videotape movies, no surround sound, no mobile phones, no personal computers, no DVDs, no Internet chat rooms. We had friends - we went outside and found them.
We played elastics and rounders, and sometimes that ball really hurt! We fell out of trees, got cut and broke bones but there were no law suits.
We had full on fist fights but no prosecution followed from other parents.
We played chap-the-door-run-away and were actually afraid of the owners catching us.
We walked to friends' homes. We also, believe it or not, WALKED to school; we didn't rely on mummy or daddy to drive us to school, which was just round the corner.
We made up games with sticks and tennis balls. We rode bikes in packs of 7 and wore our coats by only the hood.
The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke a law was unheard of...They actually sided with the law.
This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers and problem solvers and inventors, ever. The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas. We had freedom, failure, success and
responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all. And you're one of them. Congratulations!
Pass this on to others who have had the luck to grow as real kids, before lawyers and government regulated our lives, for our own good. For those of you who aren't old enough, thought you might like to read about us.
This my friends, is surprisingly frightening......and it might put a smile on your face: The majority of students in universities today were born in 1986........They are called youth.
They have never heard of We are the World, We are the children, and the Uptown Girl they know is by Westlife not Billy Joel.
They have never heard of Rick Astley, Bananarama, Nena Cherry or Belinda Carlisle.
For them, there has always been only one Germany and one Vietnam.
AIDS has existed since they were born. CD's have existed since they were born. Michael Jackson has always been white.
To them John Travolta has always been round in shape and they can't imagine how this fat guy could be a god of dance.
They believe that Charlie's Angels and Mission Impossible are films from last year. They can never imagine life before computers.
They'll never have pretended to be the A Team, Red Hand Gang or the Famous Five.
They'll never have applied to be on Jim'll Fix It or Why Don't You. They can't believe a black and white television ever existed. And they will never understand how we could leave the house without a mobile phone
I love that and its all true :) :) :)
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I got a car and got married , I loved that car.
so not the wife then ;D
andy what was your story, how did you stop bmx?
don't know if you read mine, mad, if only i had a dad
that could have guided me :(
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For me the reasons were simple:
1) Drugs
2) Drink
3) Birds
4) Car
5) Work
6) Drugs
7) Drink
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mad, if only i had a dad that could have guided me :(
Dan, I know what you mean my step dad just wanted us to go to work and leave home. I worked at a bike shop for nine months after leaving school, did a lot of freestyle stuff - small comps and the like and generally rode a lot but not really thinking I could earn a living out of it so I got an office job to earn some better money and build a career, got a Road Bike (racer), bought an Escort Mexico, discovered girls and dropped out of riding BMX bikes for a while ::)
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Marty You had a mexico :shocked: I loved them bitd , I had a mk 2 escort 1600 sport with big wheels and capri seats lol.
I did this did to it five up in Burnham Beeches park at 4am racing a Tickford Capri!
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g114/martycoughlin/scan0011.jpg)
Thankfully it had a full roll cage and harnesses in the front seats, the guys in the back just got thrown about a bit but we were all OK!
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after getting mugged at 13 on my bmx i stopped riding and going out for about a year or so (school included missed the 3rd year, didnt go once ;D ) but what i did do was learn how to break dance and bodypop in me bedroom
spent the insurance money from my bike on a vic 20, a sergi tachinni and a lacoste track suit and a pair of nike wimbldon supreme trainers ;)
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andy your story is so true, like i said in mine, my team manager wanted me to
go pro but couldn't see it myself, just jacked it all in and carried on with life.
around 2002 and my ten year old boy started to ride his bmx, took him over to
rom he loved it, in 2004 he won rom jam and this was the turning point,
knew bmx was back in my life, :4_17_5:
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after getting mugged at 13 on my bmx i stopped riding and going out for about a year or so (school included missed the 3rd year, didnt go once ;D ) but what i did do was learn how to break dance and bodypop in me bedroom
spent the insurance money from my bike on a vic 20, a sergi tachinni and a lacoste track suit and a pair of nike wimbldon supreme trainers ;)
Good choice of clothes, you were lucky not have them taxed too :LolLolLolLol:
We used to go to a sports shop in Shepherds Bush called Mancini's (I think), the locals used to follow you up the road (or chase you if you spotted them) and tax you before you got to wear any of it :LolLolLolLol:
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I wasted a lot of years listening to people telling me it was for kids and just going with the flow.
Well I dont care now and I dont give a toss what anybody thinks I am just enjoying myself and it keeps me fit. I still go to the gym every day and I think that has helped a lot with my bmx. I intend to keep bmxing for as long as I can now and reclaim a few of those lost years. I might even try and learn a new trick this year lol.
I can't agree with the bit about the woman as mine has always been cool with BMX, she was with me in the 80's when i rode then again in the early 90's and is still behind me now. The rest though is spot on :daumenhoch:
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i was ok till about 24 as i raced road bikes and mtb's and still rode bmx :daumenhoch: then i got involved with a sex maniac byatch from hell >:D and i got into drinking and fights and drugs ,not good and i had a child ive never seen :-\ i left her in the end ,as she was sh#ging my so called mate :knuppel2: i went ballistic and off the rails for about 3 years ,and i nearly done 10 years in in prison :'( but that sorted me out and i was ok but then another byatch from hell but thats another story you wouldnt believe that one :crazy2: now im well on track and back on my bmx and got a great lady and nearly 3 kids :daumenhoch: so all well that ends well :daumenhoch:
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sounds like a lot of us had mad birds/wives that turned us against the things we loved to do,luckily for me ailsa's a good 'un and has no probs with me riding at weekends.
ps andy good luck with the wedding & let me know how mauritius is i think we're going for the honeymoon.
priv
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wasn't it that we started looking for 2 legged bikes ::) that would give you a ride. Life moves on and trends are what they are.
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Cheers Priv , wait till you see the pics , White Miami vice styleeee suit , No shirt but a pastel pink T shirt., Old school checked slip on vans. Cool as fook.
Sounds cool. Don't forget the shades... 8)
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Cheers Priv , wait till you see the pics , White Miami vice styleeee suit , No shirt but a pastel pink T shirt., Old school checked slip on vans. Cool as fook.
Sounds cool. Don't forget the shades... 8)
yeah and a cut down pump action ::) and a white ferrari testarossa or black daytona :daumenhoch:
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andy you never know ,a shotgun is a handy thing :idiot2: :LolLolLolLol:
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From a US point of view,mainly what I experienced BITD.
Around the time freestyle started to grow,major bike co's drove the mom & pop style mini mfg's out of the picture.They were small time indeed compared to DB,SE,Red Line ETC.They did however make some really good bikes that were cheaper but just as well built if not better in some cases,they never had mass market adverts like the big boys but did still manage to scrape up enough respect by them to keep big boy quality up to par.
Freestyle started growing in leaps & bounds so many big boys focused on their new market & bmx got the second fiddle role,some freestylers drove their own value thru the roof & took earnings away from racers.Harry Leary & Mike Dominguez are a classic example,Harry really didn't like Mike & attempted to get him fired from DB.Mike was taking earnings away from Harry in his eyes cuz he managed to score a huge contract from DB & Harry got squat,DB started focusing more on FS than BMX & that took the piss out of Harry even more.BMX bikes suffered in quality cuz the focus was now on FS bikes & the kids riding BMX's grew up & mostly left BMX behind due to driving,women,alcohol ETC.
Once that happened with both FS & BMX the bike co's took it as a sign that it was more of a fad & the next generation was less interested,some bike co's downsized or closed up & others just managed to get by.
The good news is that our little community is bringing both FS & BMX back into the spotlight,that & the new era of extreme sports like the x games which tour the US bringing out the old schoolers with their kids.It has come full circle & right now we're on the upside of the completion of that circle,with us taking our time with our interests & getting our kids into the sport we are at the beginning of a new wave 20" madness. :daumenhoch:
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But not for this wedding Zed. Them days are over mate lol.
what a quote :shocked: :shocked:
priv
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Girls.
MTB seemed like the next natural progression with regards to riding bikes.
Have you seen that someone has asked for a MTB section to be added on here.
See it only takes a bit of time before they try to muscle in. History is gonna repeat itself as it always does.
Funny thing is I have been riding OS BMX again for nearly as long as I did BITD, so why ain't I as good as i was? :crazy2:
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For me it was Cars and Uni...
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Im putting it down to fooking mountain bikes :knuppel2: :knuppel2:
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there was probably many factors, but i think the main one was the marketing of bmx. a lot of smaller manufacturers got swallowed up by the huge multi-nationals in the name of marketing. no-one wanted to be seen on a bmx you could buy from kmart no matter how good their pro rider was.
oh, and also, every generation after mine are just a bunch of lounge room lazy bastards :LolLolLolLol:
OH SO SO TRUE !!!
I've sold a FLY Diablo new school bmx I used to ride to my nephew,
I really think only he wanted it ,coz he likes to hear what fun I used get out of BMX as a kid
but he wont be like us lot.
He and so many of his mates cant be arsed either getting a big spade out in the woods nearby or to get on the train for a 20 minute trip to the indoor park at Burnley.
Fook me BITD my bike took me everywhere and it's doin the same again today ,
WHOOOOOPPPEEEEE
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there was a massive skateboard boom after bmx.
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I raced till 1991, each week there would be less riders and tracks closing down, it was depressing. My parents told me they wouldnt take me any more as it was dieing, i was gutted
i wasnt taken with mtb's and i didnt like computer games, i kept riding my racebmx but never met any other riders for years
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there was a massive skateboard boom after bmx.
Somthing that you had as well as a bmx though :-\ :-\
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i always felt the in house fighting between the UKBMX and NBMXA didnt help.Maybe if they had got there sh!t together more televised big events would have been organised like another kellogs track wars etc then more big sponsers would have got involved and possibly BMX would have been in the spot light longer.
my own story was i was the only kid who raced bmx in my school so had no one to ride with,then the local bmx shop (american connection) closed around 85(they made the hustler f+f set) with the owner,who also ran a saturday ramp session at the local indoor center took his qtr pipes with him,there was no one else to ride with there either so graffiti,girls etc took over.My looptail ripper was then the most expensive paper bike i ever owned.
:daumenhoch:
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MTB's you'll notice have lasted lots longer than the first initial boom period of BMX
This is probably due to the age of the people interested in the sport
In the 80's BMX was marketed primarily at under 18's, and therefore treated by many ( TV media and advertising companies ) as a fad
It could have been different
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for me it was probably......................DRINK ! (in my best irish father Jack tyoe accent !) :LolLolLolLol:
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Im putting it down to fooking mountain bikes :knuppel2: :knuppel2:
LISTEN EVERYBODY IT WAS FOOKING MOUNTAIN BIKES ALRIGHT
Companies pulled the plug on BMX because it wasn't new anymore
And Kids wanted the new bikes MTB's
Companies do what sells !!!
YEAH and MTB 'ers go and talk about em somewhere else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :tickedoff:
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i stopped and my mates because we found beer and birds end of .no cometition when your 14.15 ish
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For me it was the introduction of the ghetto blaster or as we used to call it bitd the 'WOG BOX' (cant really call it that now). It was all about how many Watts ya had or if it had detachable speakers!!!!!!
Mine was a hitachi. The nuts! I got badly into music and listening to Tim Westwood on Capital radio on a Saturday night. I loved and still love hip hop but only the old 80-early 90's stuff. I wasted thousands and thousands on records and would only buy the US imported versions with the celophaned covers.
I used to love pumping them watts, listening to Roxanne Shante, as my old Skyway TA sat in the garage on its way to getting rusty........ GUTTED, and it brings back the great memories but at least BMX is back now!! :daumenhoch: Who said it ended...............
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Bauer Turbos and street hockey definately killed off bmx round my way.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/e280/Spicybob1/bauers.jpg)
Everyone I rode with bought a pair and joined a team! Me inclusive.
Just bought a pair off the bay
Im as bad on them as I am on a bmx today!
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it was entirely down to Drink, Cars, Birds (mainly psyco ones - my ex threathned to sell my bike to which i told her she'd go first!! guess what she DID!!) and Jobs.
Not necessarily in that order tho!!
not sure that mtb, skateboarding, brakedancing or any of the other factors are truly responsible the fault really lies within us all!! bmx died because too many of us allowed ourselves to become sidetracked we lost sight of what compelled us to ride in the first place!! an as a result local an national scenes died out both in racing an freestyle.
The desire to ride miles just to find someone to ride with or somewhere to ride lost its attraction cos you couldnt guarantee there would be a session at the end so gradually we all stopped bothering.
Fortuneately we have now seen the error of our ways an got back on our bikes an by the sound of it traded in wifes/partners/careers who werent supportive for new improved models (i know have i recently broke my collar bone riding an whereas my ex would have killed me my new missus has been spot on!!)
So now we find ourselves at the threshold of a new chapter in bmx i personally plan to keep on riding till i cant physically do it nothing is gonna get in the way (barring injury) an i feel privaleged to have you all along for the journey.
Ride on an this time lets all keep the faith an remember the real reason we do this!!!
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its down to the rationalization of principals before we discovered women drugs and drink ,bikes were NO1 but as we have become boared/ accustomed to all of the above and they seem normal, bmx has become vibrant again cause we no longer have to aspire to the goals we had when we were 15 anymore as they are in our past or present now we look on bmx as a time of discovery in the same way as we probably viewed women , drugs, drink BITD
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hehe women, bmx, drink and drugs?
sounds good to me. when do we start?