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Old School BMX 1980 - 1988 => Old School Freestyle (frame stands and kickturns galore!) => Topic started by: Flatcap on May 19, 2007, 10:31 AM
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As the post would suggest....what freestyle trick did you invent.
Many may dispute this but I THINK (and if I'm wrong don't jump on me) I invented the Tailwhip Jump. Southsea Skatepark around 83 I was trying to do a Can Can jump out of the bowl just in front of the main key hole bowl that everyone jumps out of. As I was practicing them my foot slipped off the other pedal as I stepped over the frame and the frame unintentionally spun round which gave me the idea. Next time I tried to do it and I meant to kick the frame round but didn't get my feet back on the pedals. Anyway, after many attempts I managed to get my feet back on the pedals and ride out which I think was probably one of the first Tailwhip Jumps. Albeit not as high or as stylish as they do it these days. Jess Dyrenforth did witness it if he remembers but no photographer was there at the time so you only have mine, Dave Slade's and Jess D's word for it.
My mate Sid (Warren Siddall) who was one of the pioneers of street invented the BB grind which he first did on a bench, the pictures were in Action Bike at the time. I remember all the fuss that was made about it, Nick Phillips was the one who made the most fuss about it but it was hugely different and original for the time.
As I said, if I'm wrong about the Tailwhip Jump then please accept my apologies but as far as I know no one had done it before then, in fact, Mike D had only just done it on the floor on BMX Beat.
So come on guys - what's your claim to fame?
:daumenhoch:
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the falling off with style trick :LolLolLolLol:
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i think i invented the "no handed face plant" :2funny: :LolLolLolLol:
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i think i invented the "no handed face plant" :2funny: :LolLolLolLol:
thats a great trick dwain and it has so many variations ;D
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barspin roll-in.. documentary evidence on the 20 video! 1990... my one and only contribution.....
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in the mid 80s whilst i was into the racing scene.
we would jump the big step ups at ipswich track
before and after meets.i did a variation table top
360 very high and round the wrong way,never rearly
saw anyone else do this as it was hard sketchy
and rarely pulled ,but the bike would end up flat
but facing inside.not outside like the norm.
so 360 table top airing to the left with bike facing inside.
maybe it was crap so it never much caught on.lol
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when i was a kid i used to do steam rollers holding onto the rear peg ....... this was arround 1988/89 i believe.
Not sure if anyone else did them back then
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i didnt invent it, but I mastered the Bale >:D
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dan that sounds like a untable top
i used to do the no handed endo bitd
ie footjams they called now
that was untill i snapped me knee cap in two doin em
and macmark was there aswell
was in 83 or 84 i think
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there were quite a few tricks i "invented" but most had already been invented, but i hadn't seen anyone else do them before. so although they had been before, i'd never seen them and therefore in my own mind, made them up.
one was the vasquash or swivel, which came to these shores in 86. i had done them before then, but am sure riders were doing them in the states before me.
there were plenty of linking tricks which i use to do which i had never seen anyone else do at the time, but then they became common practice. squeaker to decade - pedal picker to decade - framewhip to woody hops to name but a few...
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Myself and Steven Dalet both learned and pulled suicide no handed kickturns in (probably) 82. 83 at the very latest. :)
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there were quite a few tricks i "invented" but most had already been invented, but i hadn't seen anyone else do them before. so although they had been before, i'd never seen them and therefore in my own mind, made them up.
i agree, definate gray area, some documented and some not
Can-can Lookback
Decade kickturn
Inverted 540
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so many things have probably been invented across the globe at the same time, thats the problem.
i remember reading bmx plus in about 89 and it was marvelling at how a dirt jumper called chris daily was the only guy who could do candybars on a straight jump(previously only done on vert) i was surprised because i had been doing them for over a year, and was also doing no footed ones on dirt at that point. i also recall doing things like barspin tyretaps, barspin fakies, double seat grab barspins, barspin to tailwhip, tailwhip footplant to fakie, and fakie footplant to 180 out before i saw anyone else do them. theres probably more but i don't want to sound like im blowing my own trumpet lol! :LolLolLolLol:
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all that and you can blow your own trumpet as well
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The ` stupple` how original :daumenhoch:
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i guess a tricks not officially yours till its named after you, lolZ.
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there were quite a few tricks i "invented" but most had already been invented, but i hadn't seen anyone else do them before. so although they had been before, i'd never seen them and therefore in my own mind, made them up.
i agree, definate gray area, some documented and some not
Can-can Lookback
Decade kickturn
Inverted 540
don't know about the others, but i'm pretty sure the inverted 540 is yours...
but saying that, i think your can can lookbacks might have been the first proper ones i'd seen as well. craig c had done the can can x-up but not sure if he had stretched it to a lookback. i'm sure i saw you do them before i saw hoffman do 'em.
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i invented a trick called the s'express,one foot over the bars on the peg the other foot on the toptube.
what a great trick i can't think why it didn't catch on.
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i agree, definate gray area, some documented and some not
Can-can Lookback
but saying that, i think your can can lookbacks might have been the first proper ones i'd seen as well. craig c had done the can can x-up but not sure if he had stretched it to a lookback. i'm sure i saw you do them before i saw hoffman do 'em.
Andy, even if anyone did do can can lookbacks before you, not many came close! That trick is YOURS!
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/cancanlookback.jpg)
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(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/e305/andyirwin/irwin-pix-one.jpg)
I know its crap but it is mine and I never saw anybody else do it bitd , but that might be because its crap. Oh yeah I can still do it .
:LolLolLolLol:
I've got a video of me from BITD doing that trick!!! How fecking funny is that.
:daumenhoch:
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As the post would suggest....what freestyle trick did you invent.
Many may dispute this but I THINK (and if I'm wrong don't jump on me) I invented the Tailwhip Jump. Southsea Skatepark around 83 I was trying to do a Can Can jump out of the bowl just in front of the main key hole bowl that everyone jumps out of. As I was practicing them my foot slipped off the other pedal as I stepped over the frame and the frame unintentionally spun round which gave me the idea. Next time I tried to do it and I meant to kick the frame round but didn't get my feet back on the pedals. Anyway, after many attempts I managed to get my feet back on the pedals and ride out which I think was probably one of the first Tailwhip Jumps. Albeit not as high or as stylish as they do it these days. Jess Dyrenforth did witness it if he remembers but no photographer was there at the time so you only have mine, Dave Slade's and Jess D's word for it.
My mate Sid (Warren Siddall) who was one of the pioneers of street invented the BB grind which he first did on a bench, the pictures were in Action Bike at the time. I remember all the fuss that was made about it, Nick Phillips was the one who made the most fuss about it but it was hugely different and original for the time.
As I said, if I'm wrong about the Tailwhip Jump then please accept my apologies but as far as I know no one had done it before then, in fact, Mike D had only just done it on the floor on BMX Beat.
So come on guys - what's your claim to fame?
:daumenhoch:
Are you trying to say you learnt tailwhips to the pedals in one day in 1983 and then didn't bother to do it again?
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cool get it on here , I would love to see old footage of somebody else doing it. :daumenhoch:
I'll need to copy it to DVD...bear with me...
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Are you trying to say you learnt tailwhips to the pedals in one day in 1983 and then didn't bother to do it again?
Yes mate I did learn it in one day and I did again many times after. However, because I wasn't a high profile rider no big deal was made of it. Action Bike rarely ventured up north as many will testify so after doing it at Southsea no one else would see me when I got back home. I had a feeling someone would question this that's why I put it in my opening sentence. It wasn't a post laying full copyright to the trick. Like many of the replies have said all the tricks have probably been pulled somewhere in the world at some point and some before others.
It was meant as a light hearted post.
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Im pretty sure that I invented the 'Aggro-fast plant'
It was basically the same as the Dave Currey 'Aggroplant' as demo'ed by him in the Vincent Airzone test in BMX Action bike but taken onto the mini-ramp and as part of a fast plant!
Sort of a fastplant one handed barspin affair!
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I was pretty sure I had invented disasters like in 92. i was livin in newie OZ ridin skatepark quarter, I'd been doin' 'em for like a week getting em down, and i was thinking the whole time that i was gonna call em "frame stretchers", cause i was pretty sure i was stretchin' my frame every time i came down heavy. Just then some numpty rolls over and suggests i throw a barspin in the air before i land that "Disaster" and i would have a well sweet move, i was shattered not only did it already have a name that was obviously in common circulation(i mean c'mon aussie doesn't get much first) but people had moved on to combo's on my move already??? Bugger
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I was pretty sure I had invented disasters like in 92. i was livin in newie OZ ridin skatepark quarter, I'd been doin' 'em for like a week getting em down, and i was thinking the whole time that i was gonna call em "frame stretchers", cause i was pretty sure i was stretchin' my frame every time i came down heavy. Just then some numpty rolls over and suggests i throw a barspin in the air before i land that "Disaster" and i would have a well sweet move, i was shattered not only did it already have a name that was obviously in common circulation(i mean c'mon aussie doesn't get much first) but people had moved on to combo's on my move already??? Bugger
gutted! :LolLolLolLol: i remember doing them in 89 and i think they were old then. :daumenhoch:
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My friends still go on about my 'invention'. My buddy had a backyard mini set up in 91 and we rode it every day and rode it drunk every night! While pumping the ramp one night (while pretty drunk) i inadvertently let my wheels pop over the coping causing my pegs to grind the underside of the coping i remember grinding along and then pulling back in and i managed to ride it out although my attempts to pass it off as deliberate were met with laughter and hurled cans. So i 'invented' the 'Downside Grind' or the Lazarou as it should be known! Never had the guts to transfer it to vert though!
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Back in 1981 I did a really fast 180 and accidentally landed on a handrail (pegless no less). Imagine my surpise when I accidentally ground up the rail backwards to downside half cab whip off the top. Needless to say I never mentioned it to anyone at the time and everyone that witnessed this feat gave up riding and emigrated to Madagasca shortly afterwards.
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:LolLolLolLol:
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Back in 1981 I did a really fast 180 and accidentally landed on a handrail (pegless no less). Imagine my surpise when I accidentally ground up the rail backwards to downside half cab whip off the top. Needless to say I never mentioned it to anyone at the time and everyone that witnessed this feat gave up riding and emigrated to Madagasca shortly afterwards.
which was nice
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Back in 1981 I did a really fast 180 and accidentally landed on a handrail (pegless no less). Imagine my surpise when I accidentally ground up the rail backwards to downside half cab whip off the top. Needless to say I never mentioned it to anyone at the time and everyone that witnessed this feat gave up riding and emigrated to Madagasca shortly afterwards.
which was nice
PMSL!
:daumenhoch:
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Back in 1981 I did a really fast 180 and accidentally landed on a handrail (pegless no less). Imagine my surpise when I accidentally ground up the rail backwards to downside half cab whip off the top. Needless to say I never mentioned it to anyone at the time and everyone that witnessed this feat gave up riding and emigrated to Madagasca shortly afterwards.
which was nice
PMSL!
:daumenhoch:
and last Tuesday we flew to an airport in the South of France...
which was Nice.
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I remember riding with tim ruck, mad alan, andy keast, and a few others in about 92 when bmx was 'dead'.... i couldnt for the life of me do 'normal' no handers, and ended up doing suicide type ones on a flyout at mortonhampstead bmx track - im not claiming to have ever been the first, I just remember being annoyed that I couldnt get the bars tucked onto my lap and instead had to make do with just airing, gripping the seat with my knees then throwing my arms out to either side! Never got them behind my back though in true suicide fashion!
happy days. My backs so knackered now I cant jump to save me life.....
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I remember riding with tim ruck, mad alan, andy keast, and a few others in about 92 when bmx was 'dead'.... i couldnt for the life of me do 'normal' no handers, and ended up doing suicide type ones on a flyout at mortonhampstead bmx track - im not claiming to have ever been the first, I just remember being annoyed that I couldnt get the bars tucked onto my lap and instead had to make do with just airing, gripping the seat with my knees then throwing my arms out to either side! Never got them behind my back though in true suicide fashion!
happy days. My backs so knackered now I cant jump to save me life.....
Some bloke from Brighton was doing them in about 87....brakeless as well. Anyone remember his name?
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was david beveridge from down that way?
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Yeah (Burgess Hill) but it wasn't him.
It was some loose guy with long hair. Someone told me his name only a few years back but I cant remember.
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hey. thought i'd throw in this flat variation.
a x up miami hopper or 'miami cross'. was doing this in '87,88.
hold the grip and brake from underneath and turn the bars anti clockwise. if your right handed. then reverse to get back out.
you need a short grip and big hands.
and instead of puting the bar on the deck, i worked out to spin 720 and 1080. and if you still have blood in your fingers, go to tailwhip then out.(then push your tyre back on the rim).