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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: Beckyboo on May 19, 2007, 06:57 PM
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Izaak has snapped his ripper frame today (by literally breathing softly on it according to him) but it is only 5 months old so is it likely to be under warrenty? Or is that it and we are buying a new one :(
Phil says that because it is aluminium it might not be? :-\
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thays very unlucky :'( i know lots of people say ali breaks alot ,but ive owned loads of ali frames ,and im no light weight ,and ive never broke one yet , is it a new ripper ,it must have a warrentyof some sort ? funny though ,i was reading this little sticker on my daughters fnf jnr it says the warrenty if void if used for trick riding ,jumping or off road riding :wtf: is that all about :idiot2:
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It is new, we bought him it for christmas from Alan's.
If it is under warrenty I hope he doen't want the whole bike back as he has sold most of it and replaced it with bits he wanted :(
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It is new, we bought him it for christmas from Alan's.
If it is under warrenty I hope he doen't want the whole bike back as he has sold most of it and replaced it with bits he wanted :(
ive allways wondered what happens if you change all the bits (as we all do) and then the bike brakes ?
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Where did it break? The frame should certainly be under warranty, I don't think there is anything in the warranty that says it is void if you change the parts, it's usually only void if you admit to racing or jumping it which is what BMX bikes are all about isn't it? or am I being an :idiot2:
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They'll take the bike back and swap your frame for a new one and put your old parts back on again.
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it sounds like you have a good case for claiming the warranty, alans are usually pretty good about it,
more than likely they'll ask you to strip the bike and send in the frame,
if they send you a replacement i'd be tempted to sell it as brand new on e-bay and look out for a steel frame for him,
if he's learning and casing stuff regularly a steel frame will give more warning of catastrophic failiure,
he's lucky he wasnt landing at the time the frame gave out!
one of my biggest riding nightmares is the headtube shearing off and the following face plant,
good luck ,
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just have a word, alans is usualy on the ball,if he needs something to borrow
i got something im sure he can thrash to death.get a pic up so we can see where it went.
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I bet it was the back end snapping off :buck2:
:) DINGO :)
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v260/oberonspacefruit/picssssdddd003.jpg)
He was landing at the time!
So he has a very swollen arm and wrist which we are waiting to see if it goes down otherwise we are off to casualty :(
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holy crapola thats bad ass , matee he was lucky .
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Looks like that frame was not annealed properly to me, stress fracture, due to flex of tubes, always snap where stress is in tubes.
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For the record - I'm told that the new SE stuff is absolute crap..... It's SE in name only unfortunately. I was warned off a floval flyer by several people.
I fancy that's good advice you've been given. Get rid and sort him a cromo frame :)
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oh man thats harsh! hope he's ok like!
sounds like he got his hands off the bars in time to brace himself a little though which is a bonus at least,
i'll be straight up, i've seen loads of alloy frames go at this point, i've torn the rear ends of three but luckily never had a heatube let go,
alloy frames are great for racing as theyre stiff and light,which is great if youre smooth and dont case much, the downside is alloy tends to be more brittle and fatigue quicker, which if youre learning you tend to case and crash more,isnt good.
the alloy 90's gt and robinson race bikes suffered many problems with the headtube arrangement , 3 re-calls if i remember correctly!
its worrying as i've recently bought my son an alloy framed bike, he is only tiny though but as soon as his wheels start leaving the ground he's straight on a steel frame!
tell the shop/distributor about youre sons injuries aswell, they should offer him some kind of bonus be it parts or whatever,
and tell him he's earned hie "red wings"!!
glad he's not injured too bad, best of luck :daumenhoch:
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shit not good mate hope he ok
and looks like the welds aint taken to me aswell
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Tubing has failed , welds very rarely fail as they are stronger than the tubes i.e. Very good claim for a replacement if you say he just used it for the purpose it was sold for. Glad to hear he is ok, play on it and get plenty free stuff. I concur that steel frames are the way to go.
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Hope he is ok, But the bonus is he has joined the Frame snappers club :daumenhoch:
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Hope your ok little man!!!!!!!!!!! :daumenhoch:
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Blimey thats bad!!!
contact Alan AND Shiners and see what they have to say?
:) DINGO :)
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That could have been a lot more serious, looks like major failure of the tubing and as Issak is only a young un I'd say they would find it hard to say it's from miss-use. Back to Alan's me thinks and a replacement frame for sure as it should not have failed after 5 months.
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Phil says I should send them a link to this thread when I am doing my complaining ;D
I must admit he did look like he was enjoying the kudos of snapping his frame at the park in front of the other young uns.
He was staying at our friends house and like a real trooper after hurting himself started trying to drag his two halves of his bike back until his friend phoned his dad who collected them then phoned us when he saw his arm.
Have just had a panic feeding his new hamster as I thought it was dead for 10 minutes and was just thinking this woud be the icing on the cake if I had to tell him that but thankfully that is made of stronger stuff than his frame and was just in REM sleep bless it ;D
thanks for all your messages and suggestions :)
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snapping a frame when you are yong is cool, I had a top tube shaped scar in my chin as a kid after my Murrey snapped and stuck in my face :daumenhoch: luckily its gone now
:) DINGO :)
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I bet you enjoyed your battle scar for a while though ;D
Got the pm thanks and your very kind offer - have just replied :)
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I bet you enjoyed your battle scar for a while though ;D
Got the pm thanks and your very kind offer - have just replied :)
It was great as a conversation starter but I am glad its gone now :LolLolLolLol:
Still have plenty more biking scars/stories though, this is just his first :coolsmiley:
:) DINGO :)
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phil that is so bad it's not funny >:( can you imagine if my billy was riding that frame with the speed and tricks he does,
a very seriously hurt boy, trouble with pk and all these alloy frames is that there not made to with stand any impact,
judging by your pic the frame gave way and not the weld, that says that the alloy is cheap and mass produced, that should not
happen >:( send it back mate and get your lad on a chromo frame, todays frames are strong, light and safe :daumenhoch:
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glad your lads ok but lets be honest here thats real bad quality that. reasons for buying se and other good brands is so you dont have to worry about problems.
you will get a replacement no problem. the sale of goods act protects you what ever the reason as its not fit for purpose
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Whoa :shocked: please pass on my :daumenhoch: to Izaak on an ace frame snap, glad he's ok, Alans will stand on for this, they wont have a problem in claiming from SE, lay it on thick though, a family trip with bandaged arm (with an appointment with Alan himself) would be the best bet. Hope it works out. :daumenhoch:
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shite hope hes alright, must of a been a hell of a crash for it to do summut like that, i've never seen that on a p.k., they usually snap at the seat post tube and by the rear wheel
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the life of a ali frame isnt as long as a cr-mo frame ,pros change there ali frames many times in a year , i dont use my bike that often so ive never broke a ali frame yet, but generaly i prefere good old 4130 :daumenhoch: it last forever ;) thats a bad snap ,it must of been a big crash ,the old rippers broke just as easy though ,infact im sure older rippers arnt as over engineered as modern ali frames :laugh: send it back :daumenhoch:
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christ thats a bad failure
hope izaak's ok now
Alans will do the right thing unlike a a lot of other shops
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hope your okay dude .i was thinking of getting a ripper frame to race on fook that idea now as im a bit heavier than the little dude too lol
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fast,tough, pretty and a bargain!
looks like a 100r but could be a 125r its a nice short "19 toptube though,
http://cgi.ebay.com/Waterford-Gunnar-BMX-Frame-4130-Black-NEW-7_W0QQitemZ170103979671QQihZ007QQcategoryZ98082QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
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hope your okay dude .i was thinking of getting a ripper frame to race on fook that idea now as im a bit heavier than the little dude too lol
i rode my ripper for years with no problems at all
and i aint exactly light weight.
send that new ripper back, for a replacement.
statuatory rights say you get 12 months? i think.
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Izaak has snapped his ripper frame today (by literally breathing softly on it according to him) but it is only 5 months old so is it likely to be under warrenty? Or is that it and we are buying a new one :(
Phil says that because it is aluminium it might not be? :-\
So they are still snapping, even to this day :-\ :-\ :'(
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this is my aidens staats ALLOY frame, it snapped on landing of a 8foot dub. we replaced it with a steel brew frame. its taken him a while to get jumping again.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/q232/picturethescene_photo/words.jpg)
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fast,tough, pretty and a bargain!
looks like a 100r but could be a 125r its a nice short "19 toptube though,
http://cgi.ebay.com/Waterford-Gunnar-BMX-Frame-4130-Black-NEW-7_W0QQitemZ170103979671QQihZ007QQcategoryZ98082QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
Bought it and its on its way a thankin you :)
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top top frame that.
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Glad to hear your boy is ok,that break could have done serious damage. :(
Any shop should have no problem accepting a claim within warranty period,the manufacturer has to pick up the cost not the shop.
If you just take it back & raise some hell,you'll get a new one or a different brand & probably some other stuff.
I was gonna offer you this til I saw you got a new one,I just got it built a few weeks ago.
You couldn't break it by throwing it off a 10 story building,let alone a little kid jumping with it. ;D
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b13/joecustom/th_myK2.jpg) (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/joecustom/myK2.jpg)
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Just to update you that Izy is fine, no break just a bad sprain.
His new frame just left customs in the uk today which is good as he is going stir crazy without a bike and Phil will not let him near any of his! ;D
We went for walk round a park today and he was most put out and said it was a waste of a day of his life as he could have been riding! The cheek! Anyway Epic is fast approaching so hopefully all will be ready for then.
Alans have sent the snapped frame back to the manufacturers and we will see what they say :-\
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Well...good luck with SE,they should give him a new one no prob,if he'd still want one that is. :LolLolLolLol:
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Ahhh...no, it would be being sold on to cover cost of new frame which was a v. good deal despite customs adding their cut :knuppel2: