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Old School BMX 1980 - 1988 => Old School Freestyle (frame stands and kickturns galore!) => Topic started by: Flatcap on May 29, 2007, 10:16 PM
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I've been to that skatepark at Penistone tonight for a wobble and I'm getting there, still feel reasonably comfortable on the pipes etc. and pushing myself a little more now. Starting to just get out the top but it's difficult as there's no vert so you have to remember to pull out big style or you hook up, not good.
However, I can't do roll backs for toffee, it's just gone. This was one of the very first things I learnt as a kid and I could roll back for miles. I could still grasp it when I had my small 90's comeback too but now it's a mare. I tried for ages to do it tonight and I was fekkin useless.
How rhubarb is that! :tickedoff:
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Try sitting down as the lower the centre of gravity the better, then once you get the hang of that progress to standing up :daumenhoch:
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progress to standing up?
Na, just stick with sitting down!
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Get a freecoaster/coaster and go backwards at 100 miles an hour without being able to slow down at all unless you pull the back brake and flip onto your back!
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Or use a front brake as well :daumenhoch:
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Hi
I picked it up pretty easy again but only by doing endo's on a ramp. I think I got balance this way from the movement of my body forwards then backwards, and found I could roll back and then 180 out nearly straight away. I tried a few times first by just going up a ramp and rolling back, but I'd just weeve and put my foot down after a few metres.
Once the balance was back that was it, easy.
J.
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Get Andy Ruffell to teach you. He managed to teach Gaz Top how to do it....
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Get a freecoaster/coaster and go backwards at 100 miles an hour without being able to slow down at all unless you pull the back brake and flip onto your back!
LMFAO Nice one!
Get Andy Ruffell to teach you. He managed to teach Gaz Top how to do it....
Is that before or after Dave Slade nearly killed him on the balcony at Sobell - LOL!
I just felt a right pleb, not being able to roll back, how naff!
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I just about managed to do a couple after trying for about half an hour off a quarter pipe, but I have a coaster on my bike which is probably a bit easier. To start with I wasn't allowing enough free play on the pedals and ended up having to pedal backwards. When I had that sorted it wasn't as bad as you can coast up the ramp and stay in the same position to go back again.
I fell off the first time I tried to do a spin from a roll back, funny how you seem to manage to save the bike and not worry about yourself or is that just me. :)
My real problem is balance (or lack of it) as I've only ridden mountain bikes for years. The only way I will improve is to just get back on the bike and get riding. At least you can get some air off the quarter pipe. I had a go on a half pipe and just got tired and dizzy.
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Yeah, I noticed the dizzy bit which was something else i don't remember!
I was going up one pipe and doing a little set up air on the spine and then back to the pipe and it's a bit tight, not much space and I was getting dizzy very quickly. That's never been a problem before, must be an age thing - lol!
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The dizzy thing will pass after a while. Your air runs will go back to being parallel lines with airs either end instead of round and round stylee like they probably are now ;)
As for rollbacks, just remind yourself of the basics; if you fall to the left, turn to the left - same as riding forwards. It works honest! My own personal little nugget is to be sure to release your grip on the bars a bit, even try rolling back with just your palms resting ont' bars. The old death grip seems to upset rollbacks for some reason... :daumenhoch:
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it is only an observation but asda have lots of roll backs they might be able to help :LolLolLolLol:
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here's how to rollback
1) sit down - go high up the quarter, then start to go back . . .
2) concentrate on going in a straight line. keep your arms straight - if you start turning left or right, the tail will wag the dog and you will lose it
3) dont "pedal" backwards - let the pedals push your feet backwards
thats about it
to get the balance feeling right, try it no footed.
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it is only an observation but asda have lots of roll backs they might be able to help :LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol:
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stood up rollbacks.
ride up the quarter and just as your front wheel hits the coping
pull up[hop] so the f and r wheels leave the ramp a little, you want to
be going backwards when you land, for some reason this sorts
out your balance for rolling back.
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Get Andy Ruffell to teach you. He managed to teach Gaz Top how to do it....
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: Gaz Top....what a fooking twonk he was!!! :2funny:
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Get Andy Ruffell to teach you. He managed to teach Gaz Top how to do it....
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: Gaz Top....what a fooking twonk he was!!! :2funny:
Maybe so, but I do believe he had a general interest in the sport after being given the BMX Beat gig. He was more interested in it than Alistair Pirrie was. He even learnt the names of the tricks quicker than Andy Ruffell....
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Get Andy Ruffell to teach you. He managed to teach Gaz Top how to do it....
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: Gaz Top....what a fooking twonk he was!!! :2funny:
Yeah but he is attached to Violet Berlin and she's cute. Git!
HRD
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i'll hold a rollback teaching session at the next park meet i am at
when you get the hang of it, it's almost as easy as going forwards. keep yer arms straight!!!
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i'll hold a rollback teaching session at the next park meet i am at
when you get the hang of it, it's almost as easy as going forwards. keep yer arms straight!!!
To be honest, i've been looking at the two stickied threads in Freestyle and trying to remember how I did tricks BITD nd i'm having awful problems. I've just got myself some pads and a lid so I hope to get along to one of these 'wobbler' sessions at some point where there aren't any kids.
I don't mind if my peers laugh at me for being crap on a BMX :LolLolLolLol:
I think getting an actual 'masterclass' at a park session would be a cracking idea.
HRD
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bones in stockport was a great place for embarassment free learning sessions
i know it's a "shitty park" and all, but there was always a great vibe
tbh some of the best sessions i have had have been in a carpark with curbs to jump and maybe a few concrete banks and ledges
get yourself to the next lock in, wherever it may be!!
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get yourself to the next lock in, wherever it may be!!
I'm hoping to be able to ride more now that the doctor has agreed i'm fit enough after my surgery earlier in the year. So maybe the next lockin session, depending on where in the country it is.
Providing work don't screw around with my shift patterns that is. They love doing that.
HRD
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I love doin roll backs :smitten:
If you have seen me ride, peeps will tell ya I can't really do owt. However I thought rollbacks was the simplest thing to learn so if I can do it fellas. Practice and balance, I find a layback post helps but that's just my preference.
Keep rollin rollin rollin :D
Paul :)
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I find a layback post helps but that's just my preference
I thought about the layback thing as well because I always had one and when I started riding again in the 90's I had one then too. This is the first time I've really been riding with a straight post and in nearly new school position. I can't have right down like some of you do but I have it fairly low. I'm sure I'll get the knack of it soon but I just can't believe I can still do a no hander, albeit only about 2 foot out, foot plants, can cans, 270 drop ins and I can't do a frigging roll back. I've no chance with a fakie air as I'd kill myself!
It's embarrassing really. ::)
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a no hander 2 foot out aint no embarassment mate!
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tbh some of the best sessions i have had have been in a carpark
:police:
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dogging?
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lol no riding
on bmx
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there was a car park in h/pool that was perfect for roolbacks, in the very early 80s i remember three guys rolling back one on a torker one on a race inc and one on a goose, man i thought they where so fookin cool, it was the one trick i just had to learn, unfortunately its the only trick i learned :LolLolLolLol:
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hehehe
tell me about it.
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I reckon Kick turns on the rear peg is also quite an easy one if you're gettin back into BMX.
And that's my full repetoire, rollbacks and kickturns...oh and diddy endos :crazy2:
Paul :)
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I reckon Kick turns on the rear peg is also quite an easy one if you're gettin back into BMX.
And that's my full repetoire, rollbacks and kickturns...oh and diddy endos :crazy2:
Paul :)
Dam that sums up mine too! :-\
can't wait to thrash those three moves to death next saturday :daumenhoch:
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I reckon Kick turns on the rear peg is also quite an easy one if you're gettin back into BMX.
And that's my full repetoire, rollbacks and kickturns...oh and diddy endos :crazy2:
Paul :)
Dam that sums up mine too! :-\
can't wait to thrash those three moves to death next saturday :daumenhoch:
Yep we'll deffo be hoggin that massive vert ramp :D
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Yeah i'm going to get some elbow pads next week ready for a few falls :daumenhoch:
Have to push harder!!!
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Yeah i'm going to get some elbow pads next week ready for a few falls :daumenhoch:
Have to push harder!!!
I'm thinkin about wearing a box to protect me nutsacks, like that guy from Cameo 'Word Up' used to wear :buck2:
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:LolLolLolLol: yes but you have to wear it over that Dyno race gear!! COOOOOOOLLLL!!! :daumenhoch: :LolLolLolLol:
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I reckon Kick turns on the rear peg is also quite an easy one if you're gettin back into BMX.
And that's my full repetoire, rollbacks and kickturns...oh and diddy endos :crazy2:
Paul :)
I can just about manage an endo, providing you don't want me to roll out afterwards. I'm having problems judging when to let go of the front brake. :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
HRD
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:LolLolLolLol:
like my ex wife told me years ago..........Rob you have to let go!!! ;)
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In about 1982 or early '83 most people at Golden Gate Park would just run backwards sitting on the seat then jump to the pedals. I remember thinking "I'm going to ride into that trick."
One thing I'd say is take it at the right speed - not too slow and not too fast. Maybe front wheel halfway up an 8' quarter or something. Then keep it a little loose. Can't tell you about doing anything with the moving cranks as I've always used a coaster. Seems like sitting down would be easier assuming you've got an old school setup where you can actually sit on the seat without your knees hitting you in the face!
Don't feel bad though. I've forgotten which direction I used to do a few tricks!
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Wey hey!
I CAN DO ROLL BACKS AGAIN!!!!!!!
Just been out and I've cracked them again!
I'm sure the neighbors think I'm fekking mad constantly riding up our street, doing an endo and then rolling back but who cares, I can do em again!
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Happy days :daumenhoch:
Watch out when you re-learn 180 bunnyhops, these newschool bikes behave very differently... I used to be able to do them at basically full speed but on a modern bike I'm struggling with em at jogging speed :-[ :'(