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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: munners on June 07, 2007, 09:30 AM
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Hi all,
Did Kashimax ever do a baby blue seat??? Also do you think a ripper needs flights on to make it a great build?
Cheers Nick :daumenhoch:
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In answer to the flights question I'd say this.
Would a MK1 Burner look good with Flights on and would a Ripper look good with a 1 piece crank on it?
No idea about the seat though.
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I like that Zip ;D
SO TRUE! Silly me :idiot2:
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i bought flites to go on my black ripper after i got stick for it running a one peice crank.
but after fitting them it looked a fooking sight lol.
i'd have had to get them gold plated to match lol.
back on went the one peice lol.
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I know it would look tasty but its a money thing too. Where do ya draw the line?
I think it will look sweet with a one piece.
Saying that though Dave, people badgered you about the tyres you put on it didnt they mate. It still won bike of the year! :4_17_5:
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I don't like 1pc Cranks & would only use them if I was doing a rep.
As for the seat :-\
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personally i'd only use 1 pce if it was a rider,
if you have a tight budget, get some of the twin pinch Flights, £65 from the US. Have a look on the RAD Museum and also the VBMX Museum for some inspiration !!
alternaitvely get some AEROSPEEDS ya tight git !! :LolLolLolLol: :daumenhoch:
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1 pc cranks suit the old school bikes
that's what most people used. yes. even the pros.
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1 pc cranks suit the old school bikes
that's what most people used. yes. even the pros.
not again
gra name me 5 pro,s who used 1pc,s bitd
and i,ll name you 20 who used flights ;D
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1 pc cranks suit the old school bikes
that's what most people used. yes. even the pros.
not again
gra name me 5 pro,s who used 1pc,s bitd
and i,ll name you 20 who used flights ;D
Yeah
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1 pc cranks suit the old school bikes
that's what most people used. yes. even the pros.
not again
gra name me 5 pro,s who used 1pc,s bitd
and i,ll name you 20 who used flights ;D
Christ no-one in my age group used 1 piece cranks, everybody used flights, profiles or Cooks Bros. So I wouldn't imagine the pro's would have used them.
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1 pc cranks suit the old school bikes
that's what most people used. yes. even the pros.
not again
gra name me 5 pro,s who used 1pc,s bitd
and i,ll name you 20 who used flights ;D
Christ no-one in my age group used 1 piece cranks, everybody used flights, profiles or Cooks Bros. So I wouldn't imagine the pro's would have used them.
Cook Bros ! 8)
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I would use OPC if you don't have the budget for single pinch flights , twin pinch don't work IMO :)
Dordy's ripper looked fine with OPC , and as you say won BOTY .
Kashi , I think there might have been baby blue ?
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1 pc cranks suit the old school bikes
that's what most people used. yes. even the pros.
not again
gra name me 5 pro,s who used 1pc,s bitd
and i,ll name you 20 who used flights ;D
lol
ok i will go back any old mags i have
and find yer 5 riders on 1pc cranks!!!
i am talking freestylers though. not racers
don't know anything about racing, really!
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ok all sorted now ;)
now we are reading from the same script
freestyle n not racing
be interesting to see the outcome
gra what years are you gonna source from
shall we say 83 to 86
be a bit of fun to see 5 freestylers with 1pc
and 20 freestylers with 3 pc
i,ll name my 20 and these are off the top of me noggin
haro,
dominguez,
campbell,
ruffell n,
stupple,
chris young,
andy irwin,
terry jenkins
pardon n preston,
RL and buff,
jeff watson,
fiola,
vanderspek
jason lunn,
eric steel,
jason hassell,
andy shohara,
dave curry
all rode with 3pc flights/profiles or hutch aerospeeds
at the end of the day in the cold light
i think it came down to preference,sponsership and good ol cash ola
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sure i have seen pics of fiola running a 1pc
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is this a 1pc
(http://www.23mag.com/mags/fbuk/fbu8504.jpg)
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josh white
(http://www.23mag.com/events/afa/a86r2wj.jpg)
brian blyther
(http://www.23mag.com/mags/bxm/bxm8606.jpg)
dmc
(http://www.23mag.com/events/afa/a87r5dmc.jpg)
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mike d rode 1 pce cranks on a trickstar !
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ok i had a look in a couple of magazines
there were loads of 1pc cranks, but here are some riders with names you should recognise
mike pardon (the year he won bmx beat)
neil stevens
mike canning
dave young
eddie fiola (on a burgundy/white bike - frosties 85?)
dizz hicks
stuart winder
steven mackintosh
larry bull
jason hassel
andrew reardon
i think 1pc cranks were favoured by freestylers for their durability and strength
obviously not everyone rode them, but tons did.
as for the racers, there were some 1pc cranks too but i didnt recognise anynames. seems like the 3pc was the king there.
but for your resto bike, either will do!
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but for your resto bike, either will do!
Hear Hear! It's your choice, obviously Flights would be nice in as much as they were nice bitd but realistically how many people actually owned a bike with them? I had Profiles and a set of Flights but by god they cost a small fortune and up until then I rode with good ole Sugino or Takagi one piece cranks and only bent one set after a quite large jump over Hayden Hall :daumenhoch:
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flights rule.
one piece do their job.
thats what i reckon.....you bunch of bummers
Dave
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flights rule.
one piece do their job.
thats what i reckon.....you bunch of bummers
Dave
Girl
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Its my opinion that you use one piece, as when the BMX boom hit our country so did one piece cranks. Id never seen these cranks before bmx. Before that it was 3 piece with cotter pins lol. One piece came with BMX :4_17_5:
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not dissing anybody that runs them.
but i'd sooner put a one peice crank in a bike than the newer twin type redlines.
just dont seem right to me on an old bike.
like putting a new school stem on an old bike if you could :D.
dont attack me though.
im just sad thats all lol.
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not dissing anybody that runs them.
but i'd sooner put a one peice crank in a bike than the newer twin type redlines.
just dont seem right to me on an old bike.
like putting a new school stem on an old bike if you could :D.
dont attack me though.
im just sad thats all lol.
Not sad my mate, read my post above I think ive nailed the head on the hit
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I think you two are spot on too. Nearly every bike that i could remember which were sold in bike shops only came with opc's. To buy Redline flights you had to be a rich little daddys boy or do loads of paper Rounds or Caddying down the local golf course! :D
My Dad brought me a brand new TA in 85 with all the best parts on. It cost him £350 back then. He wouldnt buy me flights though. For some reason it is the only thing that pushes building bikes a little way over the edge. They are just too expensive, even now. Im gonna put a one piece on it for definate. I just couldnt put a 3 piece on it that didnt fit the era that it was made. Two pinch flights aint for me.
I pushed the bidding right up on them SE bars tonight Dave. Went for a little more than i could afford. Nice for you though mate. :daumenhoch:
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I would build my bike with no crank before I put a 1pc on it ;)
:LolLolLolLol:
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always had opc bitd but lusted over flights if you wanna fulfil your fantasies buy some flights if you want reality fit opc .i for one will not judge you either way and id be surprised if anyone will
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1 pc cranks are fine!
crank snobbery is a new thing.
wasn't around around "bitd" as that list of riders i put up proves.
when fiola rode the frosties people weren't saying "phuh that peasant only has a one piece crank"
if you want reality fit opc
but that's if
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What a great debate.
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some very valid comments,
i too always rode 1pc, purely cos i was at school when i was 'in to' bmx'ing, and had no money for flights, and cos my dad was a cheapskate,
i guess it's still about how much you can afford or are willing to spend ? - original flight cranks are going for silly prices at the moment, I will get some, but will always have to justify any purchase, as I am the only earner in my household, and have a wife, 2 kids, & hefty mortgage to pay for first........
Personally I think the Sugino CT Crankset is still a good compromise, still old school, looks similar to the orignal redlines, and priced fairly.....
At the end of the day IT'S YOUR BIKE, AND YOUR DECISION, & we should respect each others views and choices... ;)
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not dissing anybody that runs them.
but i'd sooner put a one peice crank in a bike than the newer twin type redlines.
just dont seem right to me on an old bike.
like putting a new school stem on an old bike if you could :D.
dont attack me though.
im just sad thats all lol.
Ditto ;)
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Hassel had some Hutch 3 piece Crank. They were really nice. He managed to completely bugger them up. They just were't durable enough for freestyle.
There wasn't crank snobbery as it looks to be precieved in this thread when I was riding, but we all wanted Redline Flights (and most of us managed to get them in the end), and we all wanted to be 'boys' and have the best components.
I always managed to bend my 1 piece cranks (in hindsight, as I rode like a bonehead, I really should have expected it).
I went onto the GT 3 Piece one in the end (Sugino where they?) and they seemed quite good. Sold my last bike to Wayne Ryder, who then had it stolen out of his shed or something.
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I thought this thread was about a baby blue Kashimax :LolLolLolLol:
BTW, they're still making them....
(http://blog.ingsendai.com/images/BMX-AERO-Blog-02.jpg)
:P
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:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: where can you buy them from marty ?
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:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: where can you buy them from marty ?
Japan I believe ;)
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They don't do black though do they.
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Cranks are definately a personal preference, but if you were rich enough to own flights or similar BITD then good luck to you, but all the bikes I had were fitted with OPC. I've built two recently with OPC and going to do the same with my TA when that's ready because that's what I remember even the richer kids having when I was a freestyling sprog ;D
Only nowadays do I lust after 3 piece cranks but I can't bring myself to pay a small fortune for flights, so I tend to go with profiles or peregrines (which look like redlines anyway).
Love those kashi's! :smitten:
Matt :daumenhoch:
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nah, a loopy ripper being mainly a race bike is all about lightness and speed rather than having a strong crank like a 1 pc,
Sugino GT in a decent ano colour like MonkeyBiscuits suggested would like right imho,
also depends on what colour choice your doing ?
if your using ano colours, then deff a ano GT as chrome flights or opc might make it look "too chrome/silver".
Dont ne a tight git anyway, you've spent enough, so why not do the loopy ripper right.
My nos quad as below would look wrong with any chrome flights or opc.
but deff each to his own
:10_2_12:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/t47/ORANGEZIPPY/DSC01694.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/t47/ORANGEZIPPY/DSC01682.jpg)
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3 piece all the way for me i'm afraid,never liked 1 piece. :yahoo_silent:
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I'm actually really pleased to see more and more builds using a OPC again ... that's exactly how I remember BMX BITD :)
I used to fit posh cranks to all my bikes but they do nothing for me so they're all using a standard Sugino or Takagi OPC instead ???
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I'm actually really pleased to see more and more builds using a OPC again ... that's exactly how I remember BMX BITD :)
Same here... but I enjoy a nice 3 piece sometimes.. when required.
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nah, a loopy ripper being mainly a race bike is all about lightness and speed rather than having a strong crank like a 1 pc,
Sugino GT in a decent ano colour like MonkeyBiscuits suggested would like right imho,
also depends on what colour choice your doing ?
if your using ano colours, then deff a ano GT as chrome flights or opc might make it look "too chrome/silver".
Dont ne a tight git anyway, you've spent enough, so why not do the loopy ripper right.
My nos quad as below would look wrong with any chrome flights or opc.
but deff each to his own
:10_2_12:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/t47/ORANGEZIPPY/DSC01694.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/t47/ORANGEZIPPY/DSC01682.jpg)
blimey Jase, that Quad is lookin Fresh !!! at last your sticking some pics of your bikes up !
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i think anybodies collection needs at least one build with a one piece, and what ever happened to the shimano 3 piece cranks? no one seems to have them!... :-\
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loads of bikes kids got off their parents in the early eighties came with one piece on.
there was a group of guys near me who were into it early and all had rippers with opc.
so i built mine with that in mind.
if you dont like them, bollocks to you.
if you do, bollocks to you.
in fact, bollocks to you anyway.
i like em.
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i think anybodies collection needs at least one build with a one piece, and what ever happened to the shimano 3 piece cranks? no one seems to have them!... :-\
i do ! 8)
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Quads and Rippers look best with a OPC, Kashimax Aeros are horrible seats and alloy cranks are for small children.
...Don't get me started on tyres ;D
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My nos quad as below would look wrong with any chrome flights or opc.
but deff each to his own
:10_2_12:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/t47/ORANGEZIPPY/DSC01694.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/t47/ORANGEZIPPY/DSC01682.jpg)
gotta disagree with ya there , did nt rippers and quads have opc as standard ?
i like mine with a opc
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee16/lockjaw1/mun2.jpg)
JT will shoot me down in flames but i like me changa with one on too
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee16/lockjaw1/changpad.jpg)
heres a standard vdc freestyler , note the opc
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee16/lockjaw1/vdc85changa.jpg)
at the end of the day it s preference , no two bikes are alike , take mine and orangezippys quad, same colour but slight differences
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go on then, if your are determined to have a opc then feel free to have a bid on mine,
i'll then put the proceeds towards a pair of flights :LolLolLolLol:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170265512597
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Flights or Profiles are always nicer to look at than a 1pc.
Everybody I knew/rode with wanted Flights as a kid, but none of us got em cos they were too expensive. Didn't buy my first set until 1996.
It's a shame that the new school Flights just don't have the same kudos/prestige as the old school ones.
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There aint an issue to me, one or the other :buck2:
Both turn a chain that turns a wheel :daumenhoch: I have never thought a bike looks better or worse with either
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There aint an issue to me, one or the other :buck2:
Both turn a chain that turns a wheel :daumenhoch: I have never thought a bike looks better or worse with either
Exactly, I would never mark a bike down cos it didnt have flights on. When I was a kid my parents were quite wealthy but they refused to buy me any BMX bits as to them it was just a fad or craze. I had to save up to buy stuff, I had decent bikes n bits but could never justify buying a set of flights, I ended up with decent 1pc cranks like the triangular ones, cant remember the make! Out of all the people I rode with only one had a set of flights, but his 'rents had split so they spoiled him !