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Title: Race Helmets
Post by: Moschops on June 27, 2007, 09:33 PM
I see in a previous thred that some one was conned into buying a full face helmet to compete in a race, that is absolute bollox >:(

BC rules clearley state that a helmet must cover the ears, nothing about chins >:(  :rant:

Troy Lee have just launched a new open face helmet for christs sake, which looks the nuts :daumenhoch:

An open face helmet is permitted by the rules, anyone who wishes to were one at MK will be allowed to do so.

Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: RATTY on June 27, 2007, 10:01 PM
Although BCF rules do state that, the OSSS attended a regional race where the full face rule was insisted on.
I personally think full face should be worn, I have seen some nasty stacks including quadpaul last week, he had concussion and some serious scratches on his lid, he was saved by the full face, I would never go back to open face after seeing that :-[
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: SaMAlex on June 27, 2007, 10:14 PM
When I entered my first race for years at MK in April, I asked people on here what helmet I needed. I was told that I only NEEDED an open face (that covered the ears), but it was strongly RECOMENDED that I use a full face. It was also said that at SOME tracks you have to use a full face.

In the end I got a full face, and was pleased I did. It felt much better than the ones I had tried years ago. You almost didnt see the chin guard at all.

Better to have it, and not need it, ay?
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: oldskoolsux on June 27, 2007, 10:26 PM
From British cycling 2007 rulebook:

4.13.2
Helmets of either full face or open face constuction are permitted. It is recommended that open face helmets should be equipped with mouth protectors. Helmets must cover the rider's ears and provide protection at the back of the skull. Ventilation holes are permitted and they must not be large enough for any part of the cycle to penetrate the shell. the securing straps must be securely tightened.

So open face are allowed to be used without mouth guards. You cannot use a piss pot/dirt lid.
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: LucyLastic on June 27, 2007, 10:30 PM
I think a full face every time, one can never have enough protection  :)



p.s. I think they look really cool too  :D
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: Moschops on June 27, 2007, 10:38 PM
I have ridden in both styles, I like the feeling of freedom that an open face helmet gives you BUT I like the skin on my chin more ;)

I would recomend full face, but just wanted people to know that they do have the choice.
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: spillers#1 on June 27, 2007, 10:58 PM
I used to wear an open face when i first raced in 83 then went on to wear a bell moto 3 full face after my brother crashed and literally ripped half his face off wearing no face protection :daumenhoch:so bollox to that.
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: Webdawg on June 27, 2007, 11:10 PM
I was arm bent into buying a full face, someone didn't want me to ruin me good looks :LolLolLolLol: :-*

TBH i never liked em bitd but my ns 661 is cool, looking back we only wore open as it was cool at the time ( cost me 4 front teeth n a boken nose all in the name of "fashion") :wtf:

Plus Quad Pauls crash, nuff said.

Full face all the way baby :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: MCSMagnum on June 27, 2007, 11:19 PM
Full face for me, after a nearly £200 dentists bill, just seems like it makes financial sense (coulda got a troy lee for that), unless you're cool with the shane mcgowan look...... what I've learned is that whereas as a kid I nearly always seemed to bail gracefully, 20 years on, either time and hard living have taken a toll on reaction times, or gravity has gotten stronger......

Mike
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: QuadPaul on June 27, 2007, 11:43 PM
BCF rules should be changed in my opinion. After landing face 1st and knocking myself sparko last Thurs night, it was only the fact I had a full face lid which meant I was able to race Sun & am here typing this message, without that lid I'm sure I'd have still been in hosptal having my face put back together!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: Webdawg on June 28, 2007, 12:35 AM
too right babe, u scared the shit outta me last week when you said how did Vinoah get here, i was like "with u paul"  :wtf:

That lid saved yr face for sure, big up to 661 for saving Pretty Paul
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: RATTY on June 28, 2007, 12:53 AM
You was still grinning and asking what day it was, ya fookin loon.
Anyone who still wants to wear an open face lid, come down to Dagenham on a Sunday during the day and watch the suicide kids without face protection, theres always a couple of good ones, last weeks one was lip split in half, more claret than west ham :idiot2:
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: Webdawg on June 28, 2007, 01:04 AM
too fckin right babe,how many kids have we patched up n packed up?

















lost count >:D fookin put a lid on
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: Zippy on June 28, 2007, 01:05 AM
I faceplanted badly twice last year and had mild concussion both times. I dread to think what would have happened had I not had a full face lid.
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: priv on June 28, 2007, 10:58 AM
Fullface for me all the way.


but not for bitchyroo(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o50/priv_2006/racing013.jpg)
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: Webdawg on June 28, 2007, 11:04 AM
ouch
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: aerostylie on June 28, 2007, 01:47 PM
I maybe wearing this baby at the MK meet, an open face but with the addition of a facemask.......do you reckon this will be ok for protection??
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/s6/aerostylie/Picture034-2.jpg)
Paul :)
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: RATTY on June 28, 2007, 01:50 PM
If your gonna be giving your all perhaps a full face, but if your gonna be taking it easy then it will be ok :daumenhoch: Looks cool btw
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: aerostylie on June 28, 2007, 01:56 PM
If your gonna be giving your all perhaps a full face, but if your gonna be taking it easy then it will be ok :daumenhoch: Looks cool btw

Takin it easy I reckon, posing in last place.....but lookin good  :coolsmiley::LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: Flying_fox on June 28, 2007, 08:13 PM
I would go as far as to say if you think your going to start going proper fast and jumping real doubles get a MX lid. I love the open face look, but I love the skin on my chin and my front toofs more.

I've broken too many lids and had concusion enough times, I only wear MX lids now.

BTW moschops I need another lid after Tuesday's little tumble, took a chunk out the back of mine and more big scratches. After the March desaster and then the other night I think it's about time, but I'm waiting for the 08 Troy Lee MX's to come out now. 8 months and another lid bites the dust. :idiot2: ::) :-[
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: Moschops on June 28, 2007, 10:28 PM
I would go as far as to say if you think your going to start going proper fast and jumping real doubles get a MX lid. I love the open face look, but I love the skin on my chin and my front toofs more.

I've broken too many lids and had concusion enough times, I only wear MX lids now.

BTW moschops I need another lid after Tuesday's little tumble, took a chunk out the back of mine and more big scratches. After the March desaster and then the other night I think it's about time, but I'm waiting for the 08 Troy Lee MX's to come out now. 8 months and another lid bites the dust. :idiot2: ::) :-[

You need a tin hat mate ;)
You should take more care you know, they ain't cheep.

Toys R us have some nice ones in at the mo ;D
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: jezza on July 02, 2007, 11:14 AM
are these any good for a 1st timer who cant pedal fast  :-[
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: KGB Matt on July 02, 2007, 04:35 PM
are these any good for a 1st timer who cant pedal fast  :-[

You dont need to pedal fast to do a fair bit of damage m8 .  :uglystupid2:

Prevention is allways better than cure. :daumenhoch:

Matt
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: golden duck on July 02, 2007, 04:50 PM
i agree i would rather not smash my face up


wear a full face   :buck2: :buck2: :buck2:

it saved mi head when i crashed and broke mi hand
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: DR VINOAH on July 02, 2007, 05:05 PM
for me as a youth
i went for the harry leary look(this was after i cracked my premier lid)
open face echo
with oakley goggles
and a haro "vader" chin guard
and thankfully
i never landed on me face
but me pal ian did and he still bears the scars 23 odd yrs later
and he was wearing my gear


these its gotta be fullface

after picking quadpaul up off the track the other day

and as said above he had a fully on
and still had a face full of track dirt

paul put a pick up of ya lid
and show the people

as for me
i just gotta new lid
after i cracked me bell "bellistic" in my stack
still stayed with bell but went the for the hoffman moto 7
this time
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: JT Smooth on July 02, 2007, 08:24 PM
Back in 87ish one of my mates fell off on track racing and had a open face lid on with mouth trap,
landed with his face on deck and the mouth trap ripped the side of his mouth towards his ear open
(bit like a chelsea smiler) scarred for life and hurt like hell, proper mess!

Full face all the way.

Anyone know where to get a good deal on a full face for one race a year at MK??????????

Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: Moschops on July 02, 2007, 09:54 PM
The bay :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: LucyLastic on July 02, 2007, 10:07 PM
I bought my Bellistic one off eBay for 30 quid for MK last year :)
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: jezza on July 02, 2007, 10:08 PM
are these any good for a 1st timer who cant pedal fast  :-[
forgot to put the bloody link on  :D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nitro-MX411-Motocross-Dirt-Bike-Moto-X-Helmet-mx-411-L_W0QQitemZ190125749852QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46161QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: RATTY on July 02, 2007, 10:36 PM
Any lid that meets road bike standard will be ok, the only thing might be weight :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: Moschops on July 02, 2007, 10:38 PM
are these any good for a 1st timer who cant pedal fast  :-[
forgot to put the bloody link on  :D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nitro-MX411-Motocross-Dirt-Bike-Moto-X-Helmet-mx-411-L_W0QQitemZ190125749852QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46161QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

For the money you can't go wrong, but it might be a little heavy.
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: jezza on July 02, 2007, 10:43 PM
cheers guys

 8)
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: jezza on July 02, 2007, 11:16 PM
wot weight helmet should i be looking at...no rude comments please  :P

and i know it depends on budget, i'd say max and very max £100
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: aerostylie on July 02, 2007, 11:51 PM
Hi Jezza :daumenhoch:

I got one of those Nitro MX411 lids.....it says on the back of the lid 1350+50g so can anyone advise if this is heavy in comparison to other lids. Personally I don't thinks it's heavy, most of it is my brain :LolLolLolLol:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/s6/aerostylie/Picture050.jpg)

Paul :)
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: LucyLastic on July 03, 2007, 07:33 AM
For reference, just weighed by Bell Bellistic one and it's 964g but it's an MTB one rather than MX, I think.
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: spillers#1 on July 03, 2007, 08:10 AM
bell bellistic :daumenhoch:15 vents,ultra light,and £59 from chainreaction mail order....brilliant light and stylish.
Title: Re: Race Helmets
Post by: JT Smooth on July 03, 2007, 11:40 AM
Just ordered Full face helmet and gloves off ukgood deals on ebay
but called them direct so gaybay didnt get a cut  >:D

£47 posted for the lot!!

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/ukgooddeals_BIKE-GEAR_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ1513527QQftidZ2QQtZkm
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