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Title: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: darkersomeday on September 27, 2007, 11:24 PM
ironic in a way, me posting this :)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/normal_Interbike27.jpg)
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Moose on September 27, 2007, 11:33 PM
Boat - missed ??   ???
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: billstup on September 27, 2007, 11:38 PM
Doesn`t look great does it, mind you it might look better as just a f/f, the parts on it don`t do it any favours  :(
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Bob_Acid on September 27, 2007, 11:39 PM
I probably wouldn't say no to the F&F for nostalgic reasons but who the hell came up with that as the finished bike? what an idiot.

I mean if you're going to go retro, go retro ffs.

This is why SE/Fuji are finding a market.

(http://www.os-bmx.com/images/PKRIPPER_08LOOP-2.jpg)
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: MartyC on September 27, 2007, 11:49 PM
I was really hoping that wasn't going to be the Retro Freestyler  :'(

Like Bill says, maybe as a frame and fork set it won't be so bad and will give us some latitude to build it as it should be  >:D

Obvious parts that let it down from the pic are the tyres (WTF?), seat, chainring and pedals  :(.

Bob's right, SE have at least tapped into the retro feel and the more I look at that Ripper the more I like it  :-\
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: darkersomeday on September 27, 2007, 11:56 PM
i think youre right, at least if they'd have sold it as a f&f kit it would have retained a little credibility, the bike just looks a bit of a cynical half hearted attempt,

lets hope they go they same way as the retro-sport though eventually :LolLolLolLol:
cheap as chips on e-bay, i'd have one for £90!
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: chrome andy on September 28, 2007, 12:20 AM
looks like a piece of garbage from the pic...some things are best left untouched
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Bob_Acid on September 28, 2007, 12:32 AM
why though? SE hit the nail on the head with that black gold ripper.

How hard can it be?
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: region11 on September 28, 2007, 09:43 AM
The kids aint gonna want it.  So why dont they just sell it as a frame and forks set, like SE's quad!
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: munners on September 28, 2007, 09:58 AM
Should have left it alone.

SE have it sown up!
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: kingkeef on September 28, 2007, 09:59 AM
http://www.harofreestyler.com/

Check it out Tesco!
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: theRuler on September 28, 2007, 10:01 AM
hope it's got them built in rear standing platforms
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: YGT on September 28, 2007, 10:28 AM
not good at all ... I also expect it will only be available as a complete bike and the frame will be low quality chinese made.
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: retrorider.u.k on September 28, 2007, 11:20 AM
like all the others...............CRAP  ::)

bob must be  :rant:

 :wtf:
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: highrisedrifter on September 28, 2007, 12:00 PM
I had such high hopes for this bike too.

Oh well.

HRD
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Stodgy on September 28, 2007, 12:41 PM
Oh dear. That's a real shame.

Like others have said, how hard can it be? How much reference can be found on Freestylers? And at what point did they think "Hey, we've cracked it!" ????

FFS. I was a big supporter of this project and I feel let down. In fact, where's 'Egg Face' when you need him?
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Dingobmxer on September 28, 2007, 10:20 PM
more piccys up on the other site including a sign with specs and a question? "shall we make this available as a bike or F&F"
sonds like they are not done yet?

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: MartyC on September 28, 2007, 10:46 PM
more piccys up on the other site including a sign with specs and a question? "shall we make this available as a bike or F&F"
sonds like they are not done yet?

 :) DINGO :)

Do you have more pics you can post Mark?
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Dingobmxer on September 28, 2007, 10:47 PM
more piccys up on the other site including a sign with specs and a question? "shall we make this available as a bike or F&F"
sonds like they are not done yet?

 :) DINGO :)

Do you have more pics you can post Mark?

bloody hell Marty

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Dingobmxer on September 28, 2007, 10:54 PM
here ya go:-

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/IMG_0222.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/IMG_0224.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/IMG_0230.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/IMG_0231.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/IMG_0246.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/IMG_0248.jpg)

copyright someone on vbmx so if they kick off I will have to pull them down ok?

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: MartyC on September 28, 2007, 11:18 PM
Top man  :4_17_5:

Frame looks OK, welds not bad and the chrome is quite bright.  Components suck  :LolLolLolLol:

Shame they couldn't keep the original fork design  :-X
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Rombloke on September 29, 2007, 12:03 AM
i gotta say, and this is hard for me, but that bike looks shocking


they must not release this as a complete......


Dave
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Bob_Acid on September 29, 2007, 12:12 AM
Yeah Dave, wtf were they thinking?
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: MartyC on September 29, 2007, 12:16 AM
i gotta say, and this is hard for me, but that bike looks shocking


they must not release this as a complete......


Dave

Do you think they ever read any of the forums or even took a look at the real history of Haro?   :idiot2:
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: darkersomeday on September 29, 2007, 12:43 AM
i'm pleased to see the pics dingo :daumenhoch:
glad it's not finished actually,

frame, forks and bars for me everytime!
not that i'd buy one like :LolLolLolLol:

it gives the frame a little credibilty and status letting the buyer build it up as a custom build,

maybe there idea was to release the frame with all the parts bin shit so that folk could use it straight out of the box?
kind of upgrade it as they go along,
folk on here have been doing that with the sport retro's and they look way better each time i see them,

i wont comment on the parts spec as you all probably know what i'm thinking anyway :LolLolLolLol:

the frame,
looks good at first glance, sticking to the original design is all good,the chromes nice too,
gen-1 stickers are nice,

the holes on the dropout look like an after thought but they'd line up in production i'm sure,
leave the fooking gyro tabs off for heavens sake though a simple push fit type plate is enough and gives the builder an option to not run one,

internal headset? wtf? shouldnt that say "inegrated headset"?

seriously though,
SE have pulled up there socks in this "retro game" and so they should,
alot of time,effort and love went into starting these brands bitd, theres a responsibility to do it justice,

the main area they should be concentrating on is a massivley high build quality and doing the old gen-1 bikes justice, they werent cheap starter bikes bitd!
if haro fooks this one up,

O/S heads are watching :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Bob_Acid on September 29, 2007, 12:47 AM


the holes on the dropout look like an after thought but they'd line up in production i'm sure,
leave the fooking gyro tabs off for heavens sake though a simple push fit type plate is enough and gives the builder an option to not run one,

internal headset? wtf? shouldnt that say "inegrated headset"?


Yup yup
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: rarman1 on September 29, 2007, 01:00 AM
nice one dingo for the pics,

i'm liking it :)

with any luck it wont weigh too much and with even more luck £90 on ebay :LolLolLolLol:

not sure about the 21" top tubes though, the original masters were shorter flatland type frames ?
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Bob_Acid on September 29, 2007, 01:10 AM
It's a freestyler, not a master.

Am i being fickle again  :angel:
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: darkersomeday on September 29, 2007, 01:12 AM


not sure about the 21" top tubes though, the original masters were shorter flatland type frames ?

thats a good point,
maybe haro should think about making it a nice, high quality flatland oriented frame rather than a trailsy type geometry,
i liked the idea of the modern geometry on the SE quads and ripper's but they were race/trails frames bitd,

haro defo need to put more time into it though,

i'm surprised nike arent releasing a "nike special edition gen-1 retro"
with a dodgy shoe to match,
and claiming they've been supporting bmx since day 1 :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Bob_Acid on September 29, 2007, 01:24 AM
watch this space....
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Broggie on September 29, 2007, 07:33 AM
That's bogging horrid...  I guess they felt they had to put something on it...

I think they made a much better job of the 2006 sport as a complete
(I have 2 of them  ;D )


Ray.
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: YGT on September 29, 2007, 07:45 AM
My big fear was that to make such a frame could be such a tarnish on the original history if it was done right, and unfortunatly it seems my fear has come true.
As for the complete bike ..... someone needs a swift kick up the khyber for that.

Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: retrorider.u.k on September 29, 2007, 09:57 AM
it looks even more shite close up... :2gunsfiring_v1:
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: christhejob on September 29, 2007, 10:02 AM
"true to it's original design"

it's?????????????   it's?????????????         "true to it is original design"

WHY DO ILLITERATES RUN THE WORLD??   "ITS"  is the only possessive not to need an apostrophe
MAN i hate that.


AND   it should be shorter.. because you'd actually get some people buying it to flat it!
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Flatcap on September 29, 2007, 01:29 PM
Quote
WHY DO ILLITERATES RUN THE WORLD??   "ITS"  is the only possessive not to need an apostrophe
MAN i hate that.

Where is the full stop after "apostrophe" and a upper case "I" in the next sentence??  :LolLolLolLol:

Cough...

Daz.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Bob_Acid on September 29, 2007, 05:09 PM
We don't need no grammar police here, thanks.   :2gunsfiring_v1: :police:
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: WizardWeb on September 30, 2007, 01:05 AM
Have to admit, they made a hash of it. I thought Tony D told DJ they'd put the holes in the drop-outs the correct way round...?

I can understand though that they probably figure the collectors will put their own parts on it, hence the usual Haro cranks etc. But I'm not going to be happy unless I can pick one up for £99 like I did with my Sport !  :)
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Rombloke on September 30, 2007, 09:26 AM
them pics are the old pics anyway.....these were posted up long ago, i think.

i love a haro, but that looks crap.

Dave
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: dazza on September 30, 2007, 10:11 AM
right, there,s a 99% chance the frame and fork set wont be available over in uk, them bikes wont be here untill 2008 if they even do the bike. i ask week in week out about this and for some reason all i get is (its haro,its not finished or built) so i dont know .also where was the photo taken , infact that wont be here untill the 2009 range are released, as the 2008 are here next week .g
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: WizardWeb on September 30, 2007, 10:44 AM
My local shop has had the 2008's in for a couple of weeks now but the catalogue Haro posted online says it's "Fall 2007 through winter 2008", so presumably there will be a spring summer catalog too...  ???

http://www.harobikes.com/bmx/07_bmx.pdf

(I know the link says 07, but it is the new one)
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: darkersomeday on September 30, 2007, 10:54 AM
wheres the haro dude from this forum?
i thought this was his baby?

the geezer that told me off?
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Robbo on September 30, 2007, 02:52 PM
the geezer that told me off?

That doesnt narrow it down much!?! pmsl
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Moose on September 30, 2007, 03:12 PM
wheres the haro dude from this forum?
i thought this was his baby?

the geezer that told me off?

That'd be DJ - as I understand it, he's not working for Haro now :-\
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: darkersomeday on September 30, 2007, 04:39 PM
could be why it looks a bit "thrown together"

he seemed to have a lot of passion for the project,
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: othomas2 on September 30, 2007, 05:33 PM
Been waiting a while for this bike to appear... little dissapointed by the displayed model. Hopefully they will make some changes.

Frame set only would be a good option I think...
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: DJ on September 30, 2007, 08:53 PM
Well fook me, I step out the office for just a while & this what happens?!!!!

You have no idea how much time & effort I put into that fooking bike, trying to make sure they did it correctly, honoured the original etc... I used this & the other forum for ideas, opinions etc etc & fought tooth n nail to make sure they did it correctly....

As has already been discussed I no longer work for Haro  so my input is now pretty much zero BUT I will be contacting the powers that be to tell them what a joke that bike looks & to also thank them for making me look like a lying bastard!!!!

I have a long history with Haro & working for them was pretty special for me but Im not sure of the direction & that has left me disillusioned with the whole thing.
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: billstup on September 30, 2007, 09:07 PM
Don`t worry Dave nobodies going to blame you for how its turned out, we know you put loads of work into this, its just a shame how its turned out  :(
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: MartyC on September 30, 2007, 09:19 PM
Well fook me, I step out the office for just a while & this what happens?!!!!

You have no idea how much time & effort I put into that fooking bike, trying to make sure they did it correctly, honoured the original etc... I used this & the other forum for ideas, opinions etc etc & fought tooth n nail to make sure they did it correctly....

As has already been discussed I no longer work for Haro  so my input is now pretty much zero BUT I will be contacting the powers that be to tell them what a joke that bike looks & to also thank them for making me look like a lying bastard!!!!

I have a long history with Haro & working for them was pretty special for me but Im not sure of the direction & that has left me disillusioned with the whole thing.

Maybe you could point out what a success Todd Lyons is making of the SE range by actually listening to what the public and potential buyers want, god that black and gold ripper looks lightyears away from that Freestyler  :(.  Such a shame you aren't still there as I would have loved to own a retro Freestyler with modern geometry and build  >:(.
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: TwoBobRob on September 30, 2007, 09:33 PM
Gutted for you Deej, fcuking corporate gobshites....  :knuppel2:


Don't let it piss you off too much, Haros loss...
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: WizardWeb on October 01, 2007, 12:41 AM
What's annoying is that they've blatently just built up the frame from last years show - even after they assured DJ they'd change it.

If they really knew the audience, they'd do a better job. Maybe they got stung with so many Sports left over. But that was their fault again for doing a colour the sport wasn't really famous for.

I think corporate is the wrong word here. The word is incompetance.

All we can do is pray the production models are not like the prototype.
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: dazza on October 19, 2007, 09:55 PM
this bike aint gonna be here anytime quick, i ask,d  the md at work and he didnt know about it .
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Bob_Acid on October 19, 2007, 11:56 PM
oh well, it's not like we're missing anything.
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: madall on October 21, 2007, 12:23 AM
I want that blue seat for my blue Bomber
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: retrorider.u.k on October 21, 2007, 12:57 AM
Well fook me, I step out the office for just a while & this what happens?!!!!

You have no idea how much time & effort I put into that fooking bike, trying to make sure they did it correctly, honoured the original etc... I used this & the other forum for ideas, opinions etc etc & fought tooth n nail to make sure they did it correctly....

As has already been discussed I no longer work for Haro  so my input is now pretty much zero BUT I will be contacting the powers that be to tell them what a joke that bike looks & to also thank them for making me look like a lying bastard!!!!

I have a long history with Haro & working for them was pretty special for me but Im not sure of the direction & that has left me disillusioned with the whole thing.


tell the powers that be they dont have a clue from me when you see them dave.bob haro must be pretty hacked off too, i know i would be.the decal set is the only good thing about it.chance missed in my mind  :idiot2:  :2gunsfiring_v1:
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: tricknuts on October 21, 2007, 02:32 AM
looks like an iron Horse. I guess Halfords will be stocking this then.. :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on October 21, 2007, 07:14 AM


lmao, first time i seen this thread today, all i can think is circus
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Swivel on October 24, 2007, 02:54 PM

Yep first time i've read this also and I tend to agree, but we will have to see how it turns out. Anyone really know when it will be released???? I think it should be frame/forks only and forget the rest of that sh*te  >:(

I will probably get one for nostalgic reasons and then build the fooker up with proper parts....



lmao, first time i seen this thread today, all i can think is circus
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: DJ on October 24, 2007, 02:59 PM
only 250 to be released......... spoke with haro brand manager ystday & that was his reply.
did speak to him about the the look/components etc on the bike but in all honesty, I cant be bothered to relay the whole conversation just to re-open the debate on how crap/great/etc it has turned out 
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: harris on October 24, 2007, 03:07 PM
it doesnt deserve the badge .
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: Swivel on October 24, 2007, 03:27 PM
250! Ok I guessed it would be a limited run.


only 250 to be released......... spoke with haro brand manager ystday & that was his reply.
did speak to him about the the look/components etc on the bike but in all honesty, I cant be bothered to relay the whole conversation just to re-open the debate on how crap/great/etc it has turned out 
Title: Re: new haro retro freestyler
Post by: retrorider.u.k on October 24, 2007, 03:59 PM
250 too many     ::)
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