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Title: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: darkersomeday on September 30, 2007, 10:47 AM
at the risk of getting lynched!

did anyone make a frame in the 80's with a "21 or over top tube please?

"1 headtube and no brake lugs?

cheers,

Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: RATTY on September 30, 2007, 10:49 AM
Redline PL20 I think was the first popular 21" TT frame  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: ron burgundy on September 30, 2007, 11:12 AM
I read somewhere, that Mongoose made a 21" frame for one of it's factory riders late 70s, early 80s. Also, SE made an over long Quad for racing downhill...
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: darkersomeday on September 30, 2007, 12:10 PM
cheers, i'll have a butchers at those,

was there anything longer?

only one i can remember was the robinson am-track but cant find a tt length,

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: rory on September 30, 2007, 12:15 PM
amtrac  pro xl 21.5 tt
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: Bigplinky on September 30, 2007, 01:06 PM
Freeagent Limo 21" TT and a nice ride
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: darkersomeday on September 30, 2007, 01:08 PM
amtrac  pro xl 21.5 tt

she sounds like my baby right there :smitten:

are these sought after? i.e expensive?

where would i start looking?

cheers for the advice dudes! :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: b45t4rd on September 30, 2007, 01:11 PM
Craig Reynolds liked em long ;)
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/reynolds/4382
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: ron burgundy on September 30, 2007, 01:41 PM
Cyclecraft, ELF, TNT all made longish frames too
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: Zippy on September 30, 2007, 02:18 PM
amtrac  pro xl 21.5 tt

she sounds like my baby right there :smitten:

are these sought after? i.e expensive?

where would i start looking?

cheers for the advice dudes! :daumenhoch:

There's only one of these in the UK at the moment and that's just been sold by me.  :daumenhoch:

They're a very nice good quality frame.
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: mightymini on September 30, 2007, 03:22 PM
Freeagent Limo 21" TT and a nice ride
2nd that, great geometry to.
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: beard1973 on September 30, 2007, 03:44 PM
amtrac  pro xl 21.5 tt

she sounds like my baby right there :smitten:

are these sought after? i.e expensive?

where would i start looking?

cheers for the advice dudes! :daumenhoch:

There's only one of these in the UK at the moment and that's just been sold by me.  :daumenhoch:

They're a very nice good quality frame.

And its gonna look awesome when I have finished with it... then I am gonna race the bugger...  :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: beard1973 on September 30, 2007, 03:54 PM
Here she is before she arrived...

(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y80/hondadominator/Robbo3.jpg)

(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y80/hondadominator/Robbo2.jpg)

(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y80/hondadominator/Robbo1.jpg)

be ready in a couple of weeks....  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: kdw712 on September 30, 2007, 04:01 PM
Freeagent Limo 21" TT and a nice ride

as andy says free agent  :daumenhoch:
apparently they were among the first to push the TT out

i have a 1987 pro long (early limo, has no cross brace on the rear chain stays by the BB)
its 21" TT   ;)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v603/kdw712/free%20agent/FA-001cropped.jpg)

centre to centre when i first got it
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v603/kdw712/free%20agent/21baby.jpg)
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: darkersomeday on September 30, 2007, 04:43 PM
they all look about long enough for me to ride!

there was a way long haro on the bay recently too, i should have bagged that,

i want a frame i can properly ride without worrying about breaking something nice :LolLolLolLol:

could you have a custom O/S spec/geometry frame built and it still be O/S legal?

or would that be pushing it a little? :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: billstup on September 30, 2007, 04:57 PM
Are you thinking of having a few os races then Joe ?
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: Dingobmxer on September 30, 2007, 05:01 PM
they all look about long enough for me to ride!

there was a way long haro on the bay recently too, i should have bagged that,

i want a frame i can properly ride without worrying about breaking something nice :LolLolLolLol:

could you have a custom O/S spec/geometry frame built and it still be O/S legal?

or would that be pushing it a little? :LolLolLolLol:

no ringer's allowed Joe but also look out for the "PK Ripper XL" frames 21" TT and with a DK XXL stem, long enough to race

Have a spin on mine at Mansfield if you like?

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: beard1973 on September 30, 2007, 06:53 PM
Am I gonna be allowed to race my 25th Ann Team Aero Pro at Mansfield? or am I gonna have build soemthing else????
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: darkersomeday on September 30, 2007, 06:58 PM
Are you thinking of having a few os races then Joe ?

i'm starting to see the fun side of it dude :LolLolLolLol:
might have a go next year :daumenhoch:

fair enough dingo :LolLolLolLol:
i'll forget about the ringer, any excuse for another custom s&m eh?

love the idea of another ripper though,
would it have to be a non pitbull mount version?
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: Zippy on September 30, 2007, 07:00 PM
I'm sure as a one off your going to be fine. Mind you they may kick up a stink if you beat them again.  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: beard1973 on September 30, 2007, 07:12 PM
I'm sure as a one off your going to be fine. Mind you they may kick up a stink if you beat them again.  :LolLolLolLol:

Can't see me doing that again...  ;D ;D ;D ;D be trying my best though.... Robinson won't be ready by 14th but if they are gonna be 'really' strict then I could throw something together with some spare parts.... But I'd sooner race my 25th TAP..
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: Dingobmxer on September 30, 2007, 07:57 PM
Beard the TAP is ok for Mansfield, I meant ringers to give yo an "advantage"  ;)

DSD Pitbull mount Rippers are legal, Here is my baby  :smitten:

 (http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/aaa026.jpg)

and in action  :2gunsfiring_v1:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/DSC03563.jpg)

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: Dingobmxer on September 30, 2007, 07:58 PM
p.s any excuse to post pics eh  :LolLolLolLol:

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: billstup on September 30, 2007, 08:07 PM
p.s any excuse to post pics eh  :LolLolLolLol:

 :) DINGO :)

Especially ones where your in front Mark  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: beard1973 on September 30, 2007, 08:09 PM
Beard the TAP is ok for Mansfield, I meant ringers to give yo an "advantage"  ;)

 :) DINGO :)

I'll need all the help I can get....  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: RATTY on September 30, 2007, 08:26 PM
p.s any excuse to post pics eh  :LolLolLolLol:

 :) DINGO :)

Especially ones where your in front Mark  :LolLolLolLol:
Even sweeter when he is in front of me, again :knuppel2:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: Dingobmxer on September 30, 2007, 08:27 PM
there are not many of me out in front so I have to make the most of them  :LolLolLolLol:

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: billstup on September 30, 2007, 08:32 PM
there are not many of me out in front so I have to make the most of them  :LolLolLolLol:

 :) DINGO :)

I was going to say I bet it took you a long time to find that one Mark  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: dialledbikes on September 30, 2007, 10:47 PM
DSD Pitbull mount Rippers are legal, Here is my baby  :smitten:

 (http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/aaa026.jpg)


I just picked up one of those bad boys, Mark, but an earlier version (91 I think) with Landing Gear Lites.  Gonna swap everything over from the Assassin and maybe give it a whirl at Hersden or Dagenham in a few weeks.

Did you manage to find that spare barrel adjuster?  If not, no worries, I'll stick a road bike brake on it instead.
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: Dingobmxer on October 01, 2007, 06:09 AM
I did Mike, pm me your address please mate

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: Flemdog on October 07, 2007, 09:36 PM
Freeagent always ruled with the big bikes, always drooled over the old limo's...
Me and some Batey character have custom team models with a TT of 21 1/2", alloy (I have a cro mo one off from last year with a ding from Ryan Air), 21 and a half is the sweet spot...
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: Cashy on November 26, 2008, 10:06 PM
Mongoose Solution was long!   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: OrgasmDonor on November 26, 2008, 10:24 PM
they dont come up very often, any pics of one? or did they all get destroyed in the backyard jams? ;D ;D
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: gossa on November 26, 2008, 10:32 PM
Mongoose Solution was long!   :daumenhoch:

Mmm, was the blue chromo first gen solution caliper brake?  I can't remember and I rode for them! The alloy one was definately lugged.
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: Tony 1-4 on November 27, 2008, 04:23 AM
I have a Haro pro XXL which I believe (I'm sure I will be corrected if I'm wrong) is a 22" top tube. Little bruv told me it's the longest BMX frame ever made.
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: moley on November 27, 2008, 08:12 AM
I have a Haro pro XXL which I believe (I'm sure I will be corrected if I'm wrong) is a 22" top tube. Little bruv told me it's the longest BMX frame ever made.

MotomagII races a Haro Pro XXL and he says its 22".   :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: stidds on November 27, 2008, 08:30 AM
My Bully Piston Race is also a 22" top tube.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v518/stidds/Bully%20Piston/Bully11new.jpg)
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: OrgasmDonor on November 27, 2008, 10:43 AM
my new beast is 22" too, TNT longfellow
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/n258/ODFLYER/100_1352.jpg)
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: wolfybmx on November 27, 2008, 03:08 PM
IVE GOT TWO OF THE HARO GROUP 1'S ONE WITH 21.5 T/T  AND THE OTHER WITH A 22.5 T/T  :)
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: generallee on November 27, 2008, 06:15 PM
The mongoose solution in blue was caliper brake - I remember fuzzy riding one at backyard - with a bigdog or boa caliper. I would love one of those!
Se Racing also did a 21" toptubed assasin frame  as well I thnk - I had one that I sold to Jai.
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: gossa on November 27, 2008, 07:12 PM
The mongoose solution in blue was caliper brake - I remember fuzzy riding one at backyard - with a bigdog or boa caliper. I would love one of those!
Se Racing also did a 21" toptubed assasin frame  as well I thnk - I had one that I sold to Jai.

trust me mate you wouldn't! It was a bit of a dog, the alloy ones were better but those blue ones were nothing special, fuzzy was just exceptional. I've still got Fuzzys shirt and JT pants from that backyard, can't quite squeeze into anymore!
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: PK6061 on November 28, 2008, 06:32 PM
dingo is spot on as long bikes go you just cant get better than
          the ripper xl. (needs an invert stem) :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: OrgasmDonor on November 28, 2008, 07:12 PM
aye up gary :daumenhoch:

(http://www.solarnavigator.net/films_movies_actors/actors_films_images/george_clooney_swimming_mid_air_jump.jpg)

Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: bmxmatt1974 on November 28, 2008, 09:41 PM
yeah i got an xxl haro to, 22" tt  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: dirtyvans on November 28, 2008, 11:07 PM
sandbaggers  ;D ride a 19" frame for oldskool races  :daumenhoch: you got feel the twitch
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: oberonspacefruit on November 28, 2008, 11:11 PM
booh!
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: martsz on December 01, 2008, 11:09 PM
Freeagent Limo's were a fave bitd.
Another TNT Daz  :daumenhoch:
My Supercross has 21 inch TT. Should ride nice when I get round to finishing it.
  (http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk68/martsz/SupercrossFrame.jpg)
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: thecrooch on December 02, 2008, 12:15 AM
There is a sticky on one of the OS threads that has a list of all of the frames with their lengths. Personally I'm another one voting for the Limo. If you are about at dagenham this weekend you can try mine out.
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: southern andy on December 02, 2008, 02:54 PM
Again like Simon and a few of the others i'm also a Limo fan. My old school racer below.



(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p191/carpcrazyox/limo12.jpg)
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: thecrooch on December 02, 2008, 03:38 PM
Oh while we are having a game of 'show you yours, ill show you mine...'  :LolLolLolLol:

Here is the thread with a list of the frames - its in the other old school section
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=74028.0 (http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=74028.0)

My 1991 Limo - Picked this up NOS in April.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj107/thecrooch/IMG_2152.jpg)
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: THIRSTYKIRSTY on December 02, 2008, 03:45 PM
yeh yeh freagent

ten a penny

this is the daddy ,,now resides with pickle

fast and nimble

russ

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/h56/spikeybonce/HYPER017.jpg)
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: southern andy on December 02, 2008, 03:46 PM
Whats the brake lever Simon ?????????

Seeing these FreeAgents just confirms why they are sought after old school racers.  :smitten: :smitten:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: thecrooch on December 02, 2008, 03:49 PM
its a DC Dirty Harry - NS Lever, but its the only one i can use with my paw reach.

ive gone through every OS lever in the last year, tech 3, 4, 5, 77 everything is too near the bars also i find that this one really pulls a lot of cable and i can actually get the brake to work!
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: southern andy on December 02, 2008, 03:52 PM
its a DC Dirty Harry - NS Lever, but its the only one i can use with my paw reach.

ive gone through every OS lever in the last year, tech 3, 4, 5, 77 everything is too near the bars also i find that this one really pulls a lot of cable and i can actually get the brake to work!

I don't go fast enough to use a brake.  :LolLolLolLol:  When i did use mine at B'mouth the other week it hardly worked anyway, pesky DC MX 900's.  :buck2:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: thecrooch on December 02, 2008, 04:02 PM
Pitbull with Koolstop pads and that lever - first time ive been able to lock up the back wheel!
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: OrgasmDonor on December 02, 2008, 04:24 PM
Freeagent Limo's were a fave bitd.
Another TNT Daz  :daumenhoch:
My Supercross has 21 inch TT. Should ride nice when I get round to finishing it.
  (http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk68/martsz/SupercrossFrame.jpg)

got a feelin the tnt is gonna be tooooooo long, will have to see how she rides

i just got a supercross too, but mines got canti mounts, but will also accept a caliper, so there is a god :daumenhoch: i aint got the correct forks for it but im gonna be more than happy with it me thinks, should be built by february i hope. :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: "21+ toptube O/S frame?
Post by: ukdelinquent on December 25, 2010, 05:21 PM
The mongoose solution in blue was caliper brake - I remember fuzzy riding one at backyard - with a bigdog or boa caliper. I would love one of those!
Se Racing also did a 21" toptubed assasin frame  as well I thnk - I had one that I sold to Jai.

Generalee/gossa - The steel solution definately was caliper, it has a large diameter brake spindle hole, a pain really but as generalee points out mine has a BOA in it.

I had Duly's old one first circa 1990/1? backyard, got of hotwheels who ran the mongoose team? sent it back it was bent to buggery - what did I expect with Kieth's knarly 360's over everything. After that I bought a brand new one, still have it to this day, it suffered a bit of bastardisation with having brake lugs and cable hanger brazed on it 91/92 and then getting a chrome job! Still down in my garage - shes a beauty everytime I look at her, considering restoring the frame back to original, would love to know about the colour spec, from memory it was a weird (but nice) bluey purple metalic getup.

Anyone know where I could get a) stickers and b) forks as mine bent front ending runnymede triples in 91/2 now got gen 1 ditchforks.

Andy
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