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Title: MRD bars query ID bars Please New pic added Help !!
Post by: animal on October 08, 2007, 09:50 PM
Looking for a bit of info. Got 2 sets of Mrd bars pro size, one set braized , one set tig, both identical other than the tig set are slightly angled down at the ends. But this may have been done due to heavy riding. Has anybody got any idea when they swapped over on the welding front from tig which I assume are the early bars ( from what I have been told) to being braized like the frames. Also does anybody know who made the early bars? Was rumoured they were Star Bars rebadged but we have disproved that one.
Title: Re: MRD bars query
Post by: gossa on October 08, 2007, 11:04 PM
Wasn't aware Tim had any welded bars, are you sure they're not Stars?  Tim just took the Stars to Rickman and got them to copy the for his brazed MRD's.  I'm seeing him tomorrow so i'll see what I can find out for you mate.

That's if he can remember of course!
Title: Re: MRD bars query
Post by: gossa on October 09, 2007, 05:00 PM
animal, tim's here now, he defo never made anything welded, everything was brazed by the rickman guys, sounds like you have stars mate.  Piccy?

Title: Re: MRD bars query
Post by: animal on October 09, 2007, 08:25 PM
A piccy of said bars. Any ideas?

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/q103/animalmrd/IMG_0514.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/q103/animalmrd/barskuwi.jpg)
Title: Re: MRD bars query
Post by: gossa on October 09, 2007, 08:41 PM
mmm, i'd say NOT stars as stars had a wider bottom section (going further away from the stem before they went into the rise) and I  reckon stars had a slightly lower rise than these.  i'll get the big fella to take a look, i can't get him out of me shop at the mo, he must be bored.....

BTW Tim works just around the corner from my shop so he comes in for his tea's..........
Title: Re: MRD bars query
Post by: gossa on October 09, 2007, 08:43 PM
Looking again, they might be GT pro's?  Stars and GHP bars had quite a lot of sweep on them too, those bars look quite sweepy.

Like I said Tim said defo not MRD, he only ever made brazed stuff.
Title: Re: MRD bars query
Post by: animal on October 09, 2007, 08:47 PM
Didn't think the crossbar was fat enough for Gt pro's. :-\
Title: Re: MRD bars query
Post by: harris on October 09, 2007, 08:47 PM
se  ???
Title: Re: MRD bars query
Post by: DIRTBIKER250F on October 09, 2007, 08:49 PM
Hutch  :-X
Title: Re: MRD bars query
Post by: animal on October 09, 2007, 08:50 PM
What about Torker? ::)
Title: Re: MRD bars query
Post by: dj_benice on October 09, 2007, 08:55 PM
What about Torker? ::)

Can't see pic for some reason but I have a set of torkers if you want me to get ya the measurements, proper skinny crossbar on em :)
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: animal on October 09, 2007, 09:05 PM
Cross Bar is 16mm in diameter or 5/8 of an inch. Could they be any of the above?
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: dj_benice on October 09, 2007, 09:11 PM
Cross Bar is 16mm in diameter or 5/8 of an inch. Could they be any of the above?

Sound like torkers, just measured me crossbar looks bang on 16mm.
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: animal on October 10, 2007, 06:04 PM
Right a bit more info to c if we can nail these bars down.  ::)

Cross bar width is   295mm
Underside of crossbar to top of clamp tube is   145mm
Width is 28 inches uncut

could somebody measure up some SE's and Hutch to do a comparison? :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: gossa on October 10, 2007, 08:23 PM
I'd say too square at the bottom to be Hutch bars mate.....i still reckon GT's but lets see if someone can identify for sure
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: bodamus on October 10, 2007, 08:27 PM
Early unstamped Kuwahara Laserbars made by Nitto?

bodamus :-\
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: dj_benice on October 10, 2007, 11:17 PM
crossbar on me torkers is wider n GT pros are about 300 mil with 160 mil underside to clamp the search continues
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: Frosty on October 10, 2007, 11:38 PM
here's some unstamped kuwi bars, ignore the apparent knurling as this is only marks from a stem

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y91/frosty_paul/barsandstem1.jpg)
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: animal on October 11, 2007, 07:36 PM
Looks like we have a match, fantastic, it appears I now own a set of Kuwi bars ::) Are they rare? :-\ Never seen a set in the flesh till I got these. I take it everybody agrees they look the same? Did u check the measures Frosy? If not could somebody so I deffo know for sure? :daumenhoch:

Just for the record they are virtually identical to MRD bars :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: bodamus on October 11, 2007, 08:06 PM
Well done me then :coolsmiley:

Yes there worth a fair bit got a few sets myself still.

bodamus ;)
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: harris on October 11, 2007, 08:07 PM
i had a set on my kuwi but kinda forgot what they looked like
and havent seen many sets since as ian has most of them   ;)
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: animal on October 11, 2007, 09:37 PM
What they worth?  ::) Take it they are quite rare? 

These probably need a rechrome cos they got a couple of scratches in the normal place where somebody has crashed head first say no more. :LolLolLolLol:

Many thanks to all especially the dudes who got it right :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: dordymush on October 12, 2007, 12:30 AM
mr turner was after a set of them i think.
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: OrgasmDonor on October 12, 2007, 11:35 AM
they don't look the same to me, the kuwis sweep up n yours don't by them pics
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: Frosty on October 12, 2007, 12:39 PM
tis tricky without seeing them all in the flesh. The angle of the photo will have course make a difference to how the sweep appears too.
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: Waxintaxin on October 12, 2007, 01:22 PM
I thought that as well

are they wings ?

you got a photo of the bend at the bottom of the bars , se wings bend is pretty distinct

Rich
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: Frosty on October 12, 2007, 01:27 PM
not wings

here are a couple of pics,

first STR, SE Pwings, Profile and GT pro

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y91/frosty_paul/DSCF1503.jpg)

next Profile, Kuwi laser (stamped ones), star bars

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y91/frosty_paul/DSCF1505.jpg)

Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: munners on October 12, 2007, 01:34 PM
Great pics above.  Really helpful!

I got a set of bars on a mongoose Cali that i bought recently. The guy was told that they are GT Pro bars when he got them. They have no knurling or stamp on them. What is noticable is the top tube is considerably thinner that the other tubes. Any ideas without a piccy? Please help!
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: Frosty on October 12, 2007, 02:00 PM
bottom bars in the first pic above are unstamped pro's
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: munners on October 12, 2007, 02:07 PM
Is the top tube thinner than the rest though?
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: Frosty on October 12, 2007, 02:30 PM
most the of the tubes are thinner, but if you look at the profile bars they do appear to have a larger section crossbar.

Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: animal on October 12, 2007, 05:38 PM
Frosty didn't you buy a set of MRD bars last year?  ;)
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: Frosty on October 13, 2007, 03:38 PM
Yes but they are brazed ones
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: pkradman on November 02, 2007, 11:37 PM
i wouldnt say there kuwie bars .. gt bars /star bars more looking to me .. have u got some measurements ????
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: animal on November 03, 2007, 10:22 PM
measures above in thread
Title: Re: MRD bars query ID bars Please
Post by: animal on November 04, 2007, 09:38 PM
Welding is very sweet on these bars, DazBmx says they maybe Wheels bars? Anybody else got any ideas?
Personally I think they may be Hutch. Anybody got any pics?
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