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Title: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: gossa on November 19, 2007, 05:45 PM
Hi all, here's the pictures of the sample stem.  For those that didn't read the original thread, i'm getting some repro ESP stems made that will CLEARLY not be able to be sold as originals. I've got to get a small batch made, please PM me if you're interested in one.  Cost wise they will be £90 including recorded post. These stems are for a few builds between friends and family but i can't just get a few made so need to sell some to make it happen. They are polished but if you want one anodized or mirror polished, that can be done for £10.

Spec wise they are visually identical to an ESP but all bolts and threads are metric.  This one has flying w bmx on the front but the production batch will not as i want to make them LESS like the originals to not upset or devalue original ESP stems out there. They will be laser etched on the shaft with REPRODUCTION and a date of manufacture. The shaft is stainless and seems to be harder than the original material of an ESP but the head and shaft will be threaded and bonded together. 

This shaft is 6" like the originals but as you can see from the pictures, the original ESP was butchered down as the long shafts didn't fit in a lot of forks so production stems will have a shorter shaft, approx 5".

I'm also doing this to make a clamp on ESP for my floval, those i'll sell if anyone wants one, price wise they should be around £60, flippable for cruisers too with ESP on both sides and hopefully a bit deeper so when flipped you don't see the bottom of the bolts.

First and second pic: original donor stem from Pete Middletons old bike (cut dwn shaft) and the repro.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/dd42/clivegossa/esp2.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/dd42/clivegossa/esp1.jpg)
third pic: repro exploded
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/dd42/clivegossa/DSC02425.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/dd42/clivegossa/DSC02428.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/dd42/clivegossa/DSC02430.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/dd42/clivegossa/DSC02431.jpg)
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on November 19, 2007, 06:02 PM



i be liking that
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: teamsano on November 19, 2007, 07:25 PM
work of art.

hello, im gary ellis. can i buy 5?
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: Dingobmxer on November 19, 2007, 07:25 PM
look forward to seeing the clamp on version Clive

My Kappa refurb is shaping up nicely and one of these may have be on the list for sixety dabs  :daumenhoch:

Flying W on my clamp on tho please

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: CD17 on November 19, 2007, 07:28 PM
I think I will be needing one of those, there lovely  :smitten:
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: gossa on November 19, 2007, 08:05 PM
work of art.

hello, im gary ellis. can i buy 5?

funny Gogo, the last time i went to the ABA Grands was when Dale was on Nirve and Gary Ellis was the Team manager, we all went out for pancakes one morning and i'm just sitting opposite Ellis thinking all kinds of crazy Huffy/Kuwahara trivia but shy as a 5 year old so never said owt!

Anyway, you buying? I'll trade in my old BAD card for a fiver off one?
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: gossa on November 19, 2007, 08:15 PM
look forward to seeing the clamp on version Clive

My Kappa refurb is shaping up nicely and one of these may have be on the list for sixety dabs  :daumenhoch:

Flying W on my clamp on tho please

 :) DINGO :)

Ah, i've been thinking on this one dingodude, if the stem is flippable with ESP on both sides, what way up do you do the Flying W on the front?  I was gonna drop the flying W for this reason and also keep it like the quilled one.  I am planning to make the baseplate a bit thicker so that the bolts can do thier job without coming through the bottom so it looks sweeter flipped. Your thoughts?  Also with a 28.6 hole through the middle it's gonna be a bit shorter than the quilled version.  I've scrapped the idea of making it look like a quilled stem or having a built in flexfighter but still would like the clamping mechanism not a big slit and bolt in the back, it's gotta look clean, pay himage to the OG.
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: Dingobmxer on November 19, 2007, 08:44 PM
sounds good to me

I currently run an older version of these (more square in shape/ less intricate machining)

http://www.alansbmx.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_97&products_id=1029

and think they are almost perfect  except when run flipped you can see the bolt headsi
It would be much better if you use the same system but with the bolts coming in from the other (more traditional) way so bolt heads are hidden when flipped

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: gossa on November 19, 2007, 08:47 PM
sounds good to me

I currently run an older version of these (more square in shape/ less intricate machining)

http://www.alansbmx.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_97&products_id=1029

and think they are almost perfect when run flipped (hidden bolts)

 :) DINGO :)
Ah, i'm running one of the latest profile front loaders in gold, the first clamp on ESP will be Gold for the floval, schweet!
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: teamsano on November 23, 2007, 07:29 AM

Anyway, you buying? I'll trade in my old BAD card for a fiver off one?

im just about to move house so you can imagine what the chances of knowing where that is...

when i find it, i'll get it off to ya dude!
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: gossa on November 23, 2007, 08:17 AM
Gogo, surely youi have kept that in your wallet all these years as your most prized possesion?  :LolLolLolLol:

Good luck with the move, I've moved house a few times in the last few years, pain in the shiteole........
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: Dingobmxer on November 23, 2007, 04:52 PM
Any news on the clamp on one Clive?
My Kappa Quadl parts are all ordered so should be well on the way soon so I will need one soonish  :coolsmiley:

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: jimmyp on November 23, 2007, 07:14 PM
Ill take one of these when they are done,  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: gossa on November 23, 2007, 07:33 PM
Any news on the clamp on one Clive?
My Kappa Quadl parts are all ordered so should be well on the way soon so I will need one soonish  :coolsmiley:

 :) DINGO :)

Should have the sample next week mate, will keep you posted, mines gonna be a goldun!
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: gossa on November 23, 2007, 07:34 PM
Ill take one of these when they are done,  :daumenhoch:
Will keep you posted Jimmy
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: brass monkey! on November 23, 2007, 08:02 PM
did ESP produce 3 versions of the quill stem ??

there one on the bay, looking a bit tired, but big bucks all the same !!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200176444410&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010

the 3rd had the wing motif, which can first ??? I presume the version Gossa is working on ?

Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: Lazarou on November 23, 2007, 09:22 PM
Any news on the clamp on one Clive?
My Kappa Quadl parts are all ordered so should be well on the way soon so I will need one soonish  :coolsmiley:

 :) DINGO :)


Got the Jonny Choppers yet Mark?
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: Dingobmxer on November 24, 2007, 05:50 AM
Any news on the clamp on one Clive?
My Kappa Quadl parts are all ordered so should be well on the way soon so I will need one soonish  :coolsmiley:

 :) DINGO :)


Got the Jonny Choppers yet Mark?

He emailed last week saying he had been waiting for some parts for them but they should be shipped this week  :daumenhoch:

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: gossa on November 24, 2007, 09:48 PM
did ESP produce 3 versions of the quill stem ??

there one on the bay, looking a bit tired, but big bucks all the same !!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200176444410&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010

the 3rd had the wing motif, which can first ??? I presume the version Gossa is working on ?



I read somewhere that they did 4 versions, i think that ebay one is #2 and the one i'm 'ripping off' is the first one. I think the one with the 'flying w' on the top is the last one they did.
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: Dingobmxer on November 26, 2007, 06:55 PM
Have you done a clamp on one yet Clive?

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: gossa on November 26, 2007, 07:22 PM
Have you done a clamp on one yet Clive?

 :) DINGO :)

Nearly mate, nearly.......
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: Dingobmxer on November 27, 2007, 10:17 PM
 :angel:

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: magna13 on December 02, 2008, 03:28 PM
 :4_17_5:
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: HUTCHMAN on December 07, 2008, 11:31 AM
gossa,put me down for a quill version when done.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on December 07, 2008, 11:34 AM
dave, there done mate, radman had one on his jmc yesterday
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: HUTCHMAN on December 07, 2008, 11:42 AM
thanks pete,i'll p.m gossa.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: pkradman on December 07, 2008, 05:25 PM
dave, there done mate, radman had one on his jmc yesterday
.... such a fool peter
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on December 08, 2008, 08:30 AM
dave, there done mate, radman had one on his jmc yesterday
.... such a fool peter

your right lee, it did fool me , thought it was a real one for a while
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: Bananaman on December 08, 2008, 12:05 PM
Any of these available?  Look sweeet!

Mmm I could find a home for one ;)
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: gossa on December 08, 2008, 04:20 PM
Hi all, had three pm's about stems so thought i'd post here.

I only had about eight made, all sold except one for me (that was the whole point!).  Was working on a clamp on but the machine shop do a lot of stuff for the MOD and they are too busy to fit anything in currently.

I doubt at this point that i'll get the clamp on done, and I doubt i'll get any more quilled ones done either. If things change at the engineers I'll let you all know.

They were spot on, but I did make them deliberately identifiable with a date stamp under the head near the shaft. 

Cheers all.

Gossa
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: Sparky24 on December 09, 2008, 04:49 PM
i,m gutted :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: kennyhunter6061 on December 11, 2008, 09:57 AM
I got one from Clive and they are ace.  If anyone's desperate I will happily sell for £500  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: gossa on December 12, 2008, 10:35 PM
Keep hold of it Kenny, with so few made they might end up being worth more than the real mccoys!  ;D
Title: Re: ESP stem project - now with pictures
Post by: Mattdub on December 12, 2008, 11:11 PM
Keep hold of it Kenny, with so few made they might end up being worth more than the real mccoys!  ;D

Dream on Mr G !  :LolLolLolLol: ;)

(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v201/Mattdub/IMG_2136.jpg)
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v201/Mattdub/IMG_2140.jpg)

How's things Clive , did you get the 09 done ?? .
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