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Title: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on January 15, 2008, 08:26 PM
I need to build a rear wheel with 2 sprockets.... Will this work if i use a flip flop hub?
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: snav69 on January 15, 2008, 08:35 PM
Not sure Andy  :-\
maybe this would be easier  :daumenhoch:
http://cgi.ebay.com/TOP-suntour-back-crank-bmx-racing-parts-NOS-old-school_W0QQitemZ120210509450QQihZ002QQcategoryZ64644QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: kdw712 on January 15, 2008, 08:42 PM
i thought flip flop allowed smaller drives on one to the other

so you have 16t and 15t - not good

sure DK did a hub for this - like the old clem twin drive
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: kdw712 on January 15, 2008, 08:43 PM
think this is it

http://www.danscomp.com/426019.php?cat=PARTS (http://www.danscomp.com/426019.php?cat=PARTS)
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: poolysheriff on January 15, 2008, 08:48 PM
Not sure Andy  :-\
maybe this would be easier  :daumenhoch:
http://cgi.ebay.com/TOP-suntour-back-crank-bmx-racing-parts-NOS-old-school_W0QQitemZ120210509450QQihZ002QQcategoryZ64644QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 :coolsmiley:

I,ve got 1 of these if you want it andy  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on January 15, 2008, 09:03 PM
Thanks guys.... but that sprocket wont work  :(

My mad mate Warren saw my pics of the Clemtwin system and insists he wants to build a Clemtwin esc setup. Possibly to go on his Crazy Goose. Crank arms are not a problem.
  I just figured the problem with a flip flop hub.... As you pedal it would undo one of the sprockets so some rethreading would be in order??
 
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on January 15, 2008, 09:05 PM
think this is it

http://www.danscomp.com/426019.php?cat=PARTS (http://www.danscomp.com/426019.php?cat=PARTS)

Cheers m8....That would work.... 14mm axle though  :(
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on January 15, 2008, 09:09 PM
 :) Haro used to do  a LSD/RHD flip flop 14mm hub.I had one,got it from Shitestanleys.....
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: MartyC on January 15, 2008, 09:24 PM
think this is it

http://www.danscomp.com/426019.php?cat=PARTS (http://www.danscomp.com/426019.php?cat=PARTS)

Cheers m8....That would work.... 14mm axle though  :(

Just a thought but it has sealed bearings so you could see if you could get bearings with a smaller inside diameter to replace the stock ones or get shims made up to reduce the axle down to 3/8" or 10mm and put a different axle in  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on January 15, 2008, 09:30 PM
think this is it

http://www.danscomp.com/426019.php?cat=PARTS (http://www.danscomp.com/426019.php?cat=PARTS)

Cheers m8....That would work.... 14mm axle though  :(

Just a thought but it has sealed bearings so you could see if you could get bearings with a smaller inside diameter to replace the stock ones or get shims made up to reduce the axle down to 3/8" or 10mm and put a different axle in  :daumenhoch:

I wondered that too..... thanks m8.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: TwoBobRob on January 15, 2008, 09:43 PM
I feel really stupid now.

I always thought that a flip flop hub was built so you just screw on two different sized ordinary freewheels.  Then, at the racetrack if you need to change your gearing quickly, all you do is whip your back wheel out and turn it around.   ???

Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on January 15, 2008, 10:03 PM
I feel really stupid now.

I always thought that a flip flop hub was built so you just screw on two different sized ordinary freewheels.  Then, at the racetrack if you need to change your gearing quickly, all you do is whip your back wheel out and turn it around.   ???



Me too  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: MartyC on January 15, 2008, 10:07 PM
I feel really stupid now.

I always thought that a flip flop hub was built so you just screw on two different sized ordinary freewheels.  Then, at the racetrack if you need to change your gearing quickly, all you do is whip your back wheel out and turn it around.   ???



Me too  :LolLolLolLol:

You mean its not?  The l/h side is a regular freewheel but smaller not a l/h drive so you do just that, whip it out and switch it over  :-\
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on January 15, 2008, 10:11 PM
I feel really stupid now.

I always thought that a flip flop hub was built so you just screw on two different sized ordinary freewheels.  Then, at the racetrack if you need to change your gearing quickly, all you do is whip your back wheel out and turn it around.   ???



Me too  :LolLolLolLol:

You mean its not?  The l/h side is a regular freewheel but smaller not a l/h drive so you do just that, whip it out and switch it over  :-\

Thanks for clearing that up m8 :)

See Rob...we are not stupid after all  :D  :crazy2:

Just victims of substance abuse  ;D
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: TwoBobRob on January 15, 2008, 10:15 PM
Woohoo!!!!  I knew it!!!

I knew the teachers were wrong..........   :-[ :-[ :-[

Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: kdw712 on January 15, 2008, 11:31 PM
if you cant easily change the axle in the DK you could always machine / file some flats on its only a couple of mm each side

then all  you need is two drive sides for the crank and your there

not that i've thought about this much  :coolsmiley:


crap pic but you can just make it out

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v603/kdw712/clemtwindrive.jpg)
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: MartyC on January 15, 2008, 11:52 PM
if you cant easily change the axle in the DK you could always machine / file some flats on its only a couple of mm each side

then all  you need is two drive sides for the crank and your there

Great idea, didn't think about doing that at all - it would totally work  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: Frosty on January 15, 2008, 11:55 PM
here's some more pics I had snaffled from bmxm a while ago

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y91/frosty_paul/Profile/1986ChampProDualDrive.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y91/frosty_paul/Profile/img_0116_edited_copy1_lg.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y91/frosty_paul/Profile/clemimg_1098_lg.jpg)
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on January 16, 2008, 12:05 AM
if you cant easily change the axle in the DK you could always machine / file some flats on its only a couple of mm each side

then all  you need is two drive sides for the crank and your there

not that i've thought about this much  :coolsmiley:


crap pic but you can just make it out



N1 m8....that would work a treat... I have the arms sorted already  ;)

I missed a set of Profile twin drive cranks on US eBay last summer...they went for less than $300 and i was skint ::)
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: kdw712 on January 16, 2008, 12:13 AM
i don't know if they gave any real benefit at all

but it sure looks a sweet set up with dual drive  :daumenhoch:  :)
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: Frosty on January 16, 2008, 12:19 AM
Yeh Kev, looks sweet but I bet it was an arse to set up. I can't imagine that the wear would have been even on each side either
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: kdw712 on January 16, 2008, 12:22 AM
 :LolLolLolLol:

you'll slowly start going in circles  :shocked: 
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: kdw712 on January 16, 2008, 01:33 PM
just noticed that winstanleys sells the DK hub as well

http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/?pageTitle=DK%20Dual%20Drive%20Rear%20Hub&action=detail&maincatID=0&catID=&prodID=3992&brandID= (http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/?pageTitle=DK%20Dual%20Drive%20Rear%20Hub&action=detail&maincatID=0&catID=&prodID=3992&brandID=)
Title: Re: Twin rear wheel sprockets...
Post by: billstup on January 16, 2008, 05:25 PM
Thanks guys.... but that sprocket wont work  :(

My mad mate Warren saw my pics of the Clemtwin system and insists he wants to build a Clemtwin esc setup. Possibly to go on his Crazy Goose. Crank arms are not a problem.
  I just figured the problem with a flip flop hub.... As you pedal it would undo one of the sprockets so some rethreading would be in order??
 

The left hand one wouldn`t undo, it would just freewheel like if you were pedaling backwards on a normal freewheel, it would need a left hand drive freewheel and the thread would need changing on the wheel/hub to LHD too (obviously only on the left hand side of the wheel/hub)  :daumenhoch:
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