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Title: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: woody allen bars on February 19, 2008, 06:45 PM
... Mark Noble says so in the new Ride, so it must be true  :coolsmiley:

Nice to see Ian Morris' old bike in there, complete with 1" clamp on stem
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: SaMAlex on February 19, 2008, 07:04 PM
Come on then, where is the scan .... or are you on the RIDE payroll now? :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: perry on February 19, 2008, 07:06 PM
i must seeeeee it , but i cant justify what is it now £4 just for 2 pages ? if that ?

does ride acknowledge racing yet ?
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: woody allen bars on February 19, 2008, 07:07 PM
Nah, I looked at it in the newsagent's - not buying a mag for one single page of coolness!
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: perry on February 19, 2008, 07:12 PM
should have liberated the page  >:D

someone mustave bought it so we can see  :-\
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: baldbmxer on February 19, 2008, 07:18 PM
Thankfully Chris Moeller didnt sell out or forget his roots like Mark Noble  >:D
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: perry on February 19, 2008, 07:22 PM
maybe we should hound him for an ol skool specific issue

ive got issue 19 sat next to me now ( nov/oct 95 ) and i still read it more than much newer issues
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: Dingobmxer on February 19, 2008, 07:23 PM
I bought the new issue to raed the Brian Foster interview  :daumenhoch:

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: bof on February 19, 2008, 07:25 PM
I bought the new issue to raed the Brian Foster interview  :daumenhoch:

 :) DINGO :)

Mark I read the issue with a letter in it from you the other day. was that issue 19 ???
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: Dingobmxer on February 19, 2008, 07:32 PM
Letter from me?

I cant remember that?

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: perry on February 19, 2008, 07:37 PM
mark fowler

the other letters from that issue are a paul from norwich

james edwards , west sussex

michael wong , london

id get a pic but the camea lacks batteries
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: bof on February 19, 2008, 07:43 PM
It must be a different issue, it was something to do with the reopening of a track in the midlands (Mansfield?) but I cant remember which one . your name is M Wallace or am I wrong, I havent got  the magazine to hand its  in my desk at work.  :)
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: Dingobmxer on February 19, 2008, 07:44 PM
mark fowler

the other letters from that issue are a paul from norwich

james edwards , west sussex

michael wong , london

id get a pic but the camea lacks batteries

Mike Wong is mike from dialled

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: bof on February 19, 2008, 07:44 PM
Isnt micheal wong, mike from dialled. :)
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: Dingobmxer on February 19, 2008, 07:45 PM
It must be a different issue, it was something to do with the reopening of a track in the midlands (Mansfield?) but I cant remember which one . your name is M Wallace or am I wrong, I havent got  the magazine to hand its  in my desk at work.  :)

YEP thats me, i am just old and forgetful  :LolLolLolLol:

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: perry on February 19, 2008, 07:46 PM
oooh , whats on the cover

19 is maroon with pics from king of concrete and slades jam
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: bof on February 19, 2008, 07:47 PM
It must be a different issue, it was something to do with the reopening of a track in the midlands (Mansfield?) but I cant remember which one . your name is M Wallace or am I wrong, I havent got  the magazine to hand its  in my desk at work.  :)

YEP thats me, i am just old and forgetful  :LolLolLolLol:

 :) DINGO :)

I will scan it for you tomorrow.  :)
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: beard1973 on February 19, 2008, 08:05 PM
Being a Burner Numpty... I knew nothing of the history of S&M... so this was quite an interesting read...  :coolsmiley:

Here ya go... saved ya' all £3.20....

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/gg88/burnerworld2/SM-ArticleFullPage.gif)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/gg88/burnerworld2/SM-ArticleFullText.gif)
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: SaMAlex on February 19, 2008, 08:15 PM
Nice. Says it all really.

Thanks for the scan Beard  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: beard1973 on February 19, 2008, 08:20 PM
Nice. Says it all really.

Thanks for the scan Beard  :daumenhoch:

I'm gonna have the editor/publisher of rideBMXmag after me... thats 2 months in a row I have scanned the most interesting articles and posted up here...  :D :D

I have only just started buying ride and its a half decent mag... I like the format and some of the photography is outstanding.

Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: Miko on February 19, 2008, 08:26 PM
Nice little article.  I'm a fan of those Chocolate Dirt Bikes, as some of you know.
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: perry on February 19, 2008, 08:30 PM
wooooo thanks beard  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: woody allen bars on February 19, 2008, 08:44 PM
You rule Dave, thanks for the scan  :daumenhoch:

(shouldn't encourage you really as I work in the magazine biz too!  ::) )
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: beard1973 on February 19, 2008, 08:45 PM
11th Commandment : Thou shalt not scan rideBMXmagazine without permission.  ;)
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: ron burgundy on February 19, 2008, 08:47 PM
Nice one :daumenhoch:

Lovely bike that :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: SaMAlex on February 19, 2008, 08:50 PM
11th Commandment : Thou shalt not scan rideBMXmagazine without permission.  ;)

Im sat on my own, and that reply actually made me laugh out loud. Mainly cos of the Email I just sent to W.A.B. Very fitting
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: beard1973 on February 19, 2008, 08:51 PM
11th Commandment : Thou shalt not scan rideBMXmagazine without permission.  ;)

Im sat on my own, and that reply actually made me laugh out loud. Mainly cos of the Email I just sent to W.A.B. Very fitting

 ;)
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: Lazarou on February 19, 2008, 08:53 PM
11th Commandment : Thou shalt not scan rideBMXmagazine without permission.  ;)



You have to Dave! It's the only time i'll ever read that mag!
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: dialledbikes on February 19, 2008, 09:08 PM
mark fowler

the other letters from that issue are a paul from norwich

james edwards , west sussex

michael wong , london

id get a pic but the camea lacks batteries

Yeah, that's me.  Wow!  That must've been early 90s as that's the only time I ever had a letter published in Ride.  Crikey, how time flies.

The latest issue of Ride is one of the best of recent times.  Good Foster interview/article and S&M Dirt Bike as the icon (personally, I liked the Holmes more, but I guess it was just a longer Dirt Bike).
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: dirtyvans on February 19, 2008, 10:06 PM
yeah it seems to have got better, a goodun this month with Brian Foster  :daumenhoch: / s&m etc, also  jon dye seems to have got more interesting stuff into it, maybe they read our comments slating it!
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: Matt S. on February 20, 2008, 06:26 AM
Thanks for the scan! Nice little article.

My favortie frame for sure!

-Matt
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: RyanPartridge on February 20, 2008, 03:37 PM
I'm sort of bummed because I had a chance to submit my Dirtbike for that article. Moeller hit me up about getting some quality photos but I've been out of town and didn't want to send in my crappy pictures of the frame hanging on the wall.

Oh well, it looks like I have to go track down that issue.
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: SaMAlex on February 20, 2008, 03:39 PM
I'm sort of bummed because I had a chance to submit my Dirtbike for that article. Moeller hit me up about getting some quality photos but I've been out of town and didn't want to send in my crappy pictures of the frame hanging on the wall.


I bet your one looks much more "classic" that that one.
Its all great that its being used and all, but its got a right strange mix of parts on it.
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: perry on February 20, 2008, 03:56 PM
"but its got a right strange mix of parts on it"

i was thinking that , i dont get the impression that most of them used parts like that back in the day

but i guess that was the ethos of the dirtbike , ie use whaever parts were available
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: SaMAlex on February 20, 2008, 06:33 PM
"but its got a right strange mix of parts on it"
i was thinking that , i dont get the impression that most of them used parts like that back in the day
but i guess that was the ethos of the dirtbike , ie use whaever parts were available

I dont know how many mid 90s dirtbikes ever had a lightning bolt seat and new Graf tuffs? I dont usually care a hoot about the "right" parts on a build but if you are doing an article on a classic bike .... ?
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: RyanPartridge on February 20, 2008, 06:49 PM
I dont usually care a hoot about the "right" parts on a build but if you are doing an article on a classic bike .... ?

I agree...
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: monkeybrains on February 25, 2008, 01:49 PM
(http://skateboardstickers.co.uk/db/db1.jpg)
(http://skateboardstickers.co.uk/db/db2.jpg)
(http://skateboardstickers.co.uk/db/db3.jpg)
(http://skateboardstickers.co.uk/db/db4.jpg)
(http://skateboardstickers.co.uk/db/db5.jpg)
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: TwoBobRob on February 25, 2008, 02:35 PM
"but its got a right strange mix of parts on it"
i was thinking that , i dont get the impression that most of them used parts like that back in the day
but i guess that was the ethos of the dirtbike , ie use whaever parts were available

I dont know how many mid 90s dirtbikes ever had a lightning bolt seat and new Graf tuffs? I dont usually care a hoot about the "right" parts on a build but if you are doing an article on a classic bike .... ?



I think that's just because it's Marks bike?  He likes a Tuff I believe.....


Pretty much every one I ever saw had 48s on it though.   And looked a lot like CheekyMonkeys one there   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: SaMAlex on February 25, 2008, 02:39 PM
That dirtbike is nice and ..... dirty, for sure. The thing is, if RIDE had used pics of that one, we'd all be sat here complaining that its an Oversized (later) one.   :-\

Some people are never happy  ;D
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: TwoBobRob on February 25, 2008, 02:41 PM
Good point, well made  ;D
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: Waxintaxin on February 25, 2008, 08:26 PM
Funnily enough i was asked to look into getting rid of one of these, how would they tell if its the original one , he thinks it is,it has peregrine 48s but what tells the early one, and if it is what would he be looking at for an early clean dirt bike?
being a mid school numpty i figured this was the place to ask

Rich
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: perry on February 25, 2008, 08:28 PM
" grits teeth " no more than a £20  :angel:
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: SaMAlex on February 25, 2008, 08:37 PM
Funnily enough i was asked to look into getting rid of one of these, how would they tell if its the original one , he thinks it is,it has peregrine 48s but what tells the early one, and if it is what would he be looking at for an early clean dirt bike?
being a mid school numpty i figured this was the place to ask

Rich


Pictures please .... and PM them to me, just to be on the safe side  ::) :angel:
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: woody allen bars on February 25, 2008, 08:39 PM
An early one will have a 1" headtube of course, plus the most significant difference will be in the diameter of the rear stays. Early stuff had 5/8" stays, later was 3/4" and more likely wore 990 mounts (though a lack of mounts doesn't mean it's early as they were still a $10 option 'til '94

You can see the rear stay difference here:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v227/CraigS/bmx/twoholmes.jpg)

Earlier frames also had a plate brace behind the BB shell:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v227/CraigS/bmx/holmesBB.jpg)

As for frame numbers, best ask Alex, he's got a fair few noted down.

Craig
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: monkeybrains on March 18, 2008, 02:41 PM
Apologies for bumping this thread but after giving it a thought, I'm thinking it's time to sell my old Dirt Bike. I understand it's probably not worth much but sure someone else could make better use of it.

If possible can anyone give me a little background info on the frame? I was told it was one of the first 1 1/8 Dirt Bikes to have an a headset. After reading Alex' post though, I guess it's from a 2nd generation?

Anyway, I'm wondering what the whole bike is going to be worth? Open to  offers and may stick it in the for sale section or on ebay. (mods - please do move or delete if this doesn't comply with your rules - apologies if this is the case)

Condition wise, the forks are slightly bent back, frame has small chips and a little rust in places, Chainring is bent so could do with replacing, Seat has a small tear.

What's on it?


Pics below. I can take more pics if required, no problem.

Oh yeah, I know the front tyre is the wrong way round  ;)

(http://skateboardstickers.co.uk/db/1d1.jpg)
(http://skateboardstickers.co.uk/db/1d2.jpg)
(http://skateboardstickers.co.uk/db/1d3.jpg)
(http://skateboardstickers.co.uk/db/1d4.jpg)
(http://skateboardstickers.co.uk/db/1d5.jpg)
(http://skateboardstickers.co.uk/db/1d6.jpg)
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: darkersomeday on March 18, 2008, 02:49 PM
damn! i'd have that dirtbike restored in a flash!

lmk how much he wants for it,

very, very interested :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: perry on March 18, 2008, 03:16 PM
please dont restore it , looks great as it is

i love the look of it  :smitten:

i cant stop looking at it lol
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: darkersomeday on March 18, 2008, 03:27 PM
please dont restore it , looks great as it is

i love the look of it  :smitten:

i cant stop looking at it lol

i know what you mean, its a nice survivor :daumenhoch:
if it was as "far gone" as geoff crabbies i'd leave it well alone :LolLolLolLol: that thing is perfect :smitten:

i need an s&m to restore though,
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: perry on March 18, 2008, 03:32 PM
yeah i love geoffs too its a patina only achieved over time and use  8)

try not to change too many parts

im pretty sure harris still has his yellow one

im twitchy as im expecting a package to turn up  ;)
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: darkersomeday on March 18, 2008, 03:38 PM
yeah i love geoffs too its a patina only achieved over time and use  8)

try not to change too many parts

im pretty sure harris still has his yellow one

im twitchy as im expecting a package to turn up  ;)

it'd stay as it is tbh, maybe some s&m pedals and seat, i've got the right stickers for it here etc, the rest would be elbow grease,
it deserves it :LolLolLolLol:

i'm just finishing one so i need something to fettle!

i nearly bought a light blue holmes the other day but it turned out to be an oversized dirtbike when the dude measured the tt,lol ;)
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: perry on March 18, 2008, 03:49 PM
your finishing one and you havnt shown us pics  ???

get an offer in  :)

im sure its more white than blue , but im sure itl end up black  ;)

what stickers do you have , got a pic ?
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: darkersomeday on March 18, 2008, 03:53 PM
i've alwys been a fan of these thrasher font stickers,

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/IMG_6245.jpg)

i just want a brown dirtbike with a red redneck in my stable :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: perry on March 18, 2008, 04:05 PM
thrasher style is my least favoured lol

i was toying with chololate brown but i cant afford luxuries like paint lol my t1 was a rover brown for a while though

i stole these pics from that other site lol

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y165/imperry/db1.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y165/imperry/db2.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y165/imperry/db3.jpg)


i prefer the simple stickers

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y165/imperry/GriffinDec_Jan96.jpg)
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: darkersomeday on March 18, 2008, 04:17 PM
when i eventually find a decent oversized holmes frame it will be the same army green that griffins bike is in that pic, best colour for an s&m imo :daumenhoch:

sneek peek,
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/IMG_7908.jpg)

Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: perry on March 18, 2008, 04:27 PM
did the ng have a standard style gusset , i had one of those in 2000

theres a next generation in the shop here , cant remember if its dirtbike or holmes  :-[

all the colours are good  :)

Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: zed4130 on March 18, 2008, 04:50 PM
Might be just me, but i love brown bikes   :4_17_5: and perry your avatar cracks me up,,ouch  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: magna13 on March 22, 2008, 07:36 PM
Mmmm S&M Dirtbike  :smitten:
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: harris on March 22, 2008, 07:57 PM
thats feckin gorgeous joe
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: SaMAlex on March 22, 2008, 08:00 PM
did the ng have a standard style gusset , i had one of those in 2000



I dont think the NGs had a standard style headtube gusset. I think that was the "Classic Dirtbike". A face lifted dirtbike that was avalable at the same time as the NGs but wasnt as heavy.
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: harris on March 22, 2008, 08:02 PM
i still have a holmes hanging up ,i think its a ng but can you id it when i get a pic.
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: perry on March 22, 2008, 08:05 PM
cheers , the holmes i had had that gusset

ive only got one pic of it , i wish i still had the t1 pegs  :(
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: monkeybrains on April 03, 2008, 04:21 PM
I've put that Dirt Bike up  :D http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230238843235
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: SaMAlex on April 03, 2008, 04:26 PM
I've put that Dirt Bike up  :D http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230238843235


It was a great bike, for sure, but I cant see it getting £500. I hope Im wrong :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: monkeybrains on April 03, 2008, 04:31 PM
I just put £500 as a ball park figure - I'm open to all reasonable best offers. No idea what it's worth tbh so will see what happens.
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: darkersomeday on April 03, 2008, 05:00 PM
I just put £500 as a ball park figure - I'm open to all reasonable best offers. No idea what it's worth tbh so will see what happens.


£500 is massively hopeful :LolLolLolLol:

best thing to do is  re-list it as an auction for 99p and let the bidders decide :daumenhoch:

its without a doubt the way to get the best price for it :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: monkeybrains on April 03, 2008, 05:25 PM


best thing to do is  re-list it as an auction for 99p and let the bidders decide :daumenhoch:


haha.

I'm not expecting anywhere near £500

twas a 5p listing day today for buy it nows so just threw up that figure, anyone can make us an offer of what they think it's worth

Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: harris on April 03, 2008, 05:28 PM
big moooler  ,if it makes that money im selling my lot   :angel:
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: monkeybrains on April 03, 2008, 06:51 PM
I guess 500 is taking the piss  :LolLolLolLol:

Have changed it to 350 squideroonies
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: SaMAlex on April 03, 2008, 07:39 PM
I guess 500 is taking the piss  :LolLolLolLol:

Have changed it to 350 squideroonies


With the wheels (although maybe not so much with those hubs), the cranks, and the frame/forks/stem/bar combo that is a bit of a better price. You might get more interest if you split it up tho.
Title: Re: It's official, S&M's Dirt Bike is an icon...
Post by: monkeybrains on April 13, 2008, 06:28 PM
£199 start price.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230242425828&_trksid=p3907.m32&_trkparms=tab%3DSelling

If it doesn't sell, I'm giving it to the local gypos   :)
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