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New School BMX 2004 - Now => New School Park, Street & Dirt => Topic started by: Philbert on February 24, 2008, 07:53 PM
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as it all went tits up i thought it only appropriate to say where i stend firmly on newschool kids,
i fookin hate nancy shagging hairstyles
i fookin hate kids wearing their sisters jeans
i fookin hate kids riding in t shirts that you can see the belly button
i don't get on with mile wide bars
i can't respect tailwhips as much as i did in 1997 (even though i still haven't learnt them)
and wheres all the style and flow gone?!
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....and whats with two pairs of underpants?
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Hmmm!
Must say its all a bit gay for my liking. :-\
Sean. :daumenhoch:
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well i impressed all the new skool kids today at rom
was the only old git there .untill 2bob arrived
every trick i tried i nailed was super smooth and fast lol
and had a great sesh
was a lot of the nancy hair low pants riders even brakeless ones who couldnt ride for toffee lol
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Fcuking A!
A whole fcuking herd of newschool grems at Rom today. All trying allsorts of whippy bollocks when non of em could manage even the simplest of basic stuff.....
Fcuking learn to walk first!!!! Jeez...... ::)
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i fookin hate nancy shagging hairstyles ( 80S MULLETS ::) , 90S CURTAINS ::) ITS ALL RELATIVE AND A SIGN OF THE TIMES )
i fookin hate kids wearing their sisters jeans ( NOTHING WRONG WITH A SIZE 10 , BETTER THAN THE 40S PEOPLE WERE WEARING 10 YEARS AGO " AHHH MY JEANS ARE CAUGHT IN THE CHAIN ")
i fookin hate kids riding in t shirts that you can see the belly button
i don't get on with mile wide bars ( 80S ??? )
i can't respect tailwhips as much as i did in 1997 (even though i still haven't learnt them) I HAVNT LEARNT THEM EITHER GRRRR :tickedoff:
and wheres all the style and flow gone?! THERES LOADS OF FLOW AND STYLE COMING FROM A MORE SKATE GENERATION , HOWEVER WITH A DWINDERLING TRAIL SCENE IT LOOKS A LOT MORE "FORCED" BUT THESE KIDS CAN LINK MORE STUFF THAN WE COULD BACK WHEN
my main gripe as ever is with them expecting to be handed everything , no more digging in the woods for days on end , no more spending more money on parts than on food and clothes but most of all a disasociation to the riding from bmx past , an ignorance to alexs catch phrase " nothings new " but we have ourselves to blame for letting the media constantly try and sell the latest "colourway" of an already ok part to the kid that just wants to look cool for the weekend
it is us that needs to show this lot that "light" isnt new , that fashion comes and goes and that all these tricks were done 20 years ago by a generation all but forgotten by bmx main media
long live "newschool" but lets not let them forget oldschool 8)
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Every rider was a New Schooler at some point, even if the terminology was different. No doubt in 10 years time, the new schoolers of today will be bitching about some of the riding and styles of the kids then. BMX changes and evolves and although some might not relate to certain aspects of NS, no one can really say it's wrong.
I think people need to show more love sometimes.... It's all bikes.
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I'm indifferent to the bikes and the riding it's the Emo Fag look i can't get past.
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"Emo Fag look "
looks no different to the new romantics of the 80s to me ;D
i cant think of the 90s equivalent though :-\
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thats because we were cool as fook in the 90's
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:LolLolLolLol:
I'm loving this thread. :daumenhoch:
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thats because we were cool as fook in the 90's
cecil
who was the kid trying the rollback whip, radmother :daumenhoch:
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fashionrider!
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I'm just glad to hear of any kids riding today. Most kids here are fat assed video game playing fools. They don't go outside for anything, except maybe mcdonalds.
But I dont get the tight pants/no seat post thing either.
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dont understand the hair, clothes........
MAN we sound old :LolLolLolLol:
lets just ride, the tailwhips look good........ but phil tearing up the ramp and riding up the back wall.
saw nothing radder than that on saturday :daumenhoch:
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there's a lot to be said about what TwoBobRob said about being able to walk before you can run.
I remember in the early 90's, kids were getting BMX's and the first thing they were learing was hitchhikers (basically the first difficult rolling trick for which the majority of modern flatland is based around) and yet they couldn't do the basic hopping or balancing tricks.
A year or so ago, I rode with this absolutely awesome rider. He could pull flairs, whips etc. He even done a front flip whip (I believe this was even before Scotty Cranmer did them), yet this guy would struggle doing a basic rollback.
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It's bear good.
'bear good' what the fook are you talking about? ???
We're getting old...
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We're getting old...
hit the nail on the head right there.
privf
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im onli 12 and i dont wear shit t shirts and skinny t shirts i just ride in what i want i dont see the point in shite clothes . u mite not believe me but i no rarman1 as ma dad is his m8
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good for you. don't follow todays fashion it makes you look gay!
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Every rider was a New Schooler at some point, even if the terminology was different. No doubt in 10 years time, the new schoolers of today will be bitching about some of the riding and styles of the kids then. BMX changes and evolves and although some might not relate to certain aspects of NS, no one can really say it's wrong.
I think people need to show more love sometimes.... It's all bikes.
Nail on the head.
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must admit phil, i can see your point on this, the skinny jeans and emo look just
cracks me up, so glad my lad doesn't look like that, he's new skool but his own identity,
wears a full face, what mould does that fit into :)
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what mould does that fit into :)
our mould! tooked right beneath every rad members wing for shepharding and protection.
billy rules!
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must admit phil, i can see your point on this, the skinny jeans and emo look just
cracks me up, so glad my lad doesn't look like that, he's new skool but his own identity,
wears a full face, what mould does that fit into :)
but we still have to tell him to pull his trousers up
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must admit phil, i can see your point on this, the skinny jeans and emo look just
cracks me up, so glad my lad doesn't look like that, he's new skool but his own identity,
wears a full face, what mould does that fit into :)
what you talking about Dan? Billy's always got his arse hanging out of his jeans....
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must admit phil, i can see your point on this, the skinny jeans and emo look just
cracks me up, so glad my lad doesn't look like that, he's new skool but his own identity,
wears a full face, what mould does that fit into :)
what you talking about Dan? Billy's always got his arse hanging out of his jeans....
that wasn't done on purpose ;D his belt broke but he's got a new one now :daumenhoch:
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must admit phil, i can see your point on this, the skinny jeans and emo look just
cracks me up, so glad my lad doesn't look like that, he's new skool but his own identity,
wears a full face, what mould does that fit into :)
what you talking about Dan? Billy's always got his arse hanging out of his jeans....
that wasn't done on purpose ;D his belt broke but he's got a new one now :daumenhoch:
:LolLolLolLol: he must go through a lot of belts then.... ;D
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must admit phil, i can see your point on this, the skinny jeans and emo look just
cracks me up, so glad my lad doesn't look like that, he's new skool but his own identity,
wears a full face, what mould does that fit into :)
what you talking about Dan? Billy's always got his arse hanging out of his jeans....
Gets it of his Dad i reckon! ;D
Oh god what have i done, i'm gonna find a horses head in me bed in the mornin. :-\ Only messin with ya Don......i didnt mean to disrespect the family.
The "R" ;)
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;D i never spotted that >:( sean your forgiven ;) TREV :knuppel2: :knuppel2:
we need a talk
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/aa37/billybmxpurcell/MPP50075The-Godfather-Posters.jpg)
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must admit phil, i can see your point on this, the skinny jeans and emo look just
cracks me up, so glad my lad doesn't look like that, he's new skool but his own identity,
wears a full face, what mould does that fit into :)
Wearing a full face is just sensible. A facial impact is the worst.
Me and a few other dudes turned up at Livi in the 90's sporting our new Bell moto 6 full face lids one of the n/s geezers at the park shouts over to his mate "ow hoffman and mirra are here" even tho the joke was directed at us we couldn't help but wee ourselfs laughing.
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Ha, Ha, Ha, a bunch of old gits, (myself included, 39 in a week) moaning about the new school riders.
Can anyone rember Life's a Beach Trousers and Caps, Town and Country sweats, the big Oakley shades, and we are calling
them Gay?????
Shiny uniforms and balance tricks is that what they should be doing and wearing.
New school is cool, the tricks are unbelivable, honestly what would you rather pull whips or front hops, at only 15 years old, the guys at school gave me grief for riding a kiddies bike, it doesnt have that image anymore, surely that's a good thing.
I cant understand the pants thing either, but my dad couldn't understand the pink converse, same thing isnt it.
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haha funny thread
the fashion doesnt bother me, chavs will be wearing tight jeans soon ;D, fat bmx kids in tight jeans though aint a good look :P
anyway we were all wearing pink stuff in the 80's!
style wise some things bug me, some of the kids now cant even pedal! they pedal all straight and upright, it reminds me how my gran used to ride her shopper bike while wearing a dress :LolLolLolLol: , they need to ride something else apart from flatbanks etc, like some dirt or a bmx track, get a bit of flow
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TBH as long as it kills the chav thing i'm with it :daumenhoch:
You can't have all that nice hair and wear a baseball cap so it's got to be a good thing.
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here's a bit of new school flow....
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fooking bmx...I dont get it...now when I had my Raleigh chopper and me short back and sides....jeans from tesco and no money :2funny:
Ray.
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here's a bit of new school flow....
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Sorry but I can't even watch that. it's just how they all look the same, they all ride the same, just like almost every NS kid out there! I do appreciate the tricks that could be considered difficult but I think it's missing the point of riding completely. Im sure we've all want(ed) to be able to do the tricks our favourite riders did/do but it's all too 'dolly the sheep' for my liking... :(
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Near the beginning of that vid there's a gap to wallride. I'm pretty sure its the same one as is in that horrific leg break vid I posted up the other week.
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nothing wrong with that vid, top quality flowy riding 8) nu skool done well wins for me
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go to rOm jam or corby and watch some of these skinny jeaned, boxer showing, funny gay belted kids riding and i can assure you when they are doing back flips , 360 tail whips, flairs , forward flips you really wont be to worried about how they look coz you will be to busy picking your jaw up off the floor and as for flow ??? the day mark webb and ben wallace was at corby ripping the park up flat out how anyone could ever say they aint got no flow or style I'll never know :shocked: FFS to see these fookers ripping it up in the flesh is awsome
mark webb did a transfer from the jump box to the back of the small spine he must of travelled 15/20 foot 12 foot up in the air :idiot2: if you aint got flow doing that you land on ya face, end of!!!!!
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here's a bit of new school flow....
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Sorry but I can't even watch that. it's just how they all look the same, they all ride the same, just like almost every NS kid out there! I do appreciate the tricks that could be considered difficult but I think it's missing the point of riding completely. Im sure we've all want(ed) to be able to do the tricks our favourite riders did/do but it's all too 'dolly the sheep' for my liking... :(
I think if Chase D looked the same as everyone else he wouldn't be traveling the globe, have such a huge following or a signature frame on Fit etc.... Maybe you're missing something slightly?
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here's a bit of new school flow....
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Sorry but I can't even watch that. it's just how they all look the same, they all ride the same, just like almost every NS kid out there! I do appreciate the tricks that could be considered difficult but I think it's missing the point of riding completely. Im sure we've all want(ed) to be able to do the tricks our favourite riders did/do but it's all too 'dolly the sheep' for my liking... :(
Did you go to any 80's comps, almost every run was the same.
Dave Mirra, Chase Hawk, Karl Poynter three riders with completely different tricks and styles.
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:) New schoolers are a hive of useful information! Only this week I found out that a guy called Tony Hoffman invented BMX and that he is the best in the world `cos he can do backflips...........
They`re ok in small doses,but some really need to learn their roots!
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but its people like us that have to teach them those roots :)
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did someone say they wanted new school flow
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I think if Chase D looked the same as everyone else he wouldn't be traveling the globe, have such a huge following or a signature frame on Fit etc.... Maybe you're missing something slightly?
Stevie, it's the other way around dude, it's all the kids who look like Chase D etc! as I said in my earlier post, I do respect the difficulty involved in modern riding, just think some originality in tricks & having your own style instead of everyone elses...
all imo :daumenhoch:
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Did you go to any 80's comps, almost every run was the same.
Dave Mirra, Chase Hawk, Karl Poynter three riders with completely different tricks and styles.
I didn't go to many 80's comps bar race meets etc but I went to pretty much EVERY 90's jam & that was when people had there own ideas, no one wanted to ride just like their hero's, maybe try to learn their tricks but not to look exactly like them when they do them!
I can appreciate the differences in your list of examples but Dave Mirra isn't what I would call new skool ??? & I bet he would look a complete cock in girls jeans too!
cheers
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Personally I think NS right now is the most creative I've ever seen BMX.... I for one think it's an amazing time to be a part of it.
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Having read this it seems like a classic case of the oldies not understanding the yoof!!!!
I'm 33 and I wanted a PK Ripper as much as the next man when I was 12 (all i got was a super tuff burner lol) but you seriously need to check out the modern scene. Yeah there's a fashion element with some people but there's some insane riding and stuff being pulled by kids that no-one could've dreamt of five years ago. There's also loads of riders with a lot of flow too, some of it is a joy to watch.
Get a new school ride and get down the park!
*tight jeans are not compulsory ;D
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Get a new school ride and get down the park!
Already got one & ride every week with lots of new skool kids :daumenhoch:
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i didnt used to like ' nu skool street' videos that much, rail after rail etc, but recents dvds have got so much better, good editing better music. Creative street riding, like Rubens bit in Grounded, chas D etc. I find them more exciting to watch
I like riding a bit of street, its nice to get away from the mini scooters and chavs, but its hard work and unforgiving compared to riding smooth ramps, if i go with trill we ride about 40 miles around london and find 1 bank :LolLolLolLol:
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here's a bit of new school flow....
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Wow....that just messed with my mind......
Bunnyhop whip UP 5 stairs?
Then 180 UP 8 stairs???
What?!
Brilliant.
Old school?New school?
Who cares? Just as long as it makes me go 'wow' every now and again......
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Old school?New school?
Who cares? Just as long as it makes me go 'wow' every now and again......
I like that. Pretty much sums it up :daumenhoch:
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I'm old.
Rode from 1980 until 2005 on a 20" Most days and have seen it all.
..ever since i'll tool about on my cruiser.
..don't know who Chase D is.
..Like watching any type of riding, appreciate all skill levels and riders.
..will say just one thing....
..these kids have skill but no soul, I can't really define it but it goes beyond how you look or ride and also beyond how you see BMX, these kids might eat and sleep BMX but there is something missing when I watch any of them ride. I've experienced it and it transcends trickery and style and is something that I find very hard to explain.
..I'm not even going to try. I only know that I class myself as a soul rider, this doesn't mean i'm any better than anyone else, i've just been there man!
..does anyone understand what i'm trying to say? I'm as erudite as the next man but what I'm trying to put across is so hard to put into words. I'll go and take my pills.
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I'm with ya buddy.
I don't know if I agree completely, but I see where you're coming from. I suspect its got something to do with the popularity of it all these days. Priorities have moved for some people now.....
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...it's WAY deeper than that Bobbo! When I get the right words in the right order i'll try to explain. :crazy2:
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Motives?
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i get ya buddy! fookin hard to describe it, to feel the bike as part of you whether your on it or not, not to look cool, or for people to see, just a feeling inside of belonging to each other to a point where its alive
i've been trying to get my head round what i mean by all this style and flow, i've searched youtube for the last half hour to try and find some mid school footage to show what i'm trying to say! maybe its not style and flow. i appreciate what the newschool can do. its bloody hard, i just don't like how it looks! for me the 'grace' has been lost. i think its too busy in a run, i don't like seeing jerky movement, last minute tables at the peak of arc, 300 mph tailwhips, rotations in everyway possible, just doesn't do it for me, i like to see graceful riding and thats what i mean by flow, just nice airs, smooth tables where it starts when you leave the jump and ends when you land.
i wanted footage of groundchuck or wing ding but couldn't find anything, but joe rich explains it quite nicely. recent footage just in the mid way
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I can totally understand where you're comming from here as i felt the same when i used to watch BMX on TV, on a comp' level it's turned into a circus show but to sit down here on the sea front and watch the local kids try to pull something like a 180 rollbacks off the 2 foot wall still has it for me. You have the cool kids that do all the tricks but when you see the one kid try the same thing 20 times till he pulls it is great. I'm sitting there with my kids playing on the beach keeping half an eye on the riding and wishing i was with them and when they pull it i give them a shout and they all look at me like i'm a weirdo.
The right stuff is still there. I'm lucky though as the town i live in is quite a close community and BMX is massive here, much bigger than it was in Dartford. It's just a shame there don't seem to be an old skool community here like there was there. Now we have a track though that might change, i'm looking foward to the summer.
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gonna take this back to the begining a bit
C.B.C.L
you have it nailed mate
i ride at the charlton ramp
and was there last night
we have a young lad there 13 i think we all pass on a little knowledge to try to improve his riding and give him an allround skill level
he is improving loads small wall rides manuals on a five foot quarter nice airs so on
been trying to get him to tyre tap the 5 ft ramp
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the inocent little lad anounced
tyre taps are boring i want to learn whips
whips to what we asked?
just whips!!!!
to which everyone shouted what the F**k are you ganna do with the whip when you can't get back in the ramp
sums it up really
i'm with you
C.B.C.L
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..does anyone understand what i'm trying to say? I'm as erudite as the next man but what I'm trying to put across is so hard to put into words. I'll go and take my pills.
i get where you're coming from dude.
out of all the teenage kids nowadays that ride, 90% of them wont be still riding in 5 years. thats not a good or a bad thing, its just life.
it happened 25+ years ago when we first got bmx bikes, im sure theres less than 1% of kids who had a bmx in 1982 that still ride.
kids want to do all the latest tricks (or collect all the football stickers, or all the playstation games etc) but when theyve collected what they can, they lose interest and move on to whatever is popular. but in there somewhere theyll be kids who aren't that great a rider, but just love to ride no matter their skill level, and you'll find that these guys will be the radbmx members in 25 years time.
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here's a bit of new school flow....
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Sorry but I can't even watch that. it's just how they all look the same, they all ride the same, just like almost every NS kid out there! I do appreciate the tricks that could be considered difficult but I think it's missing the point of riding completely. Im sure we've all want(ed) to be able to do the tricks our favourite riders did/do but it's all too 'dolly the sheep' for my liking... :(
I think if Chase D looked the same as everyone else he wouldn't be traveling the globe, have such a huge following or a signature frame on Fit etc.... Maybe you're missing something slightly?
yo stevie, do you remember some of chase d's older footage? all the amazing tech lip trick stuff, that no one else did.. ?
although he is an amazing rider and the things he can do are sometimes unbelievable, I think that he is pretty much the same as most other 'fashion' riders in the tricks they do, this is the point subversion is making, there is very little in telling one rider from any other, which I think is shit because some of the best riders in the world are falling into this 'must do tricks' cult.. one recently is Rob Darden, now with no brakes and 2 pegs???
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can we not just get down with the kids instead of down on them
at least we are all riding bmx, and okay some of them won't stick with it but at least they tried and the fact that they did means that bmx continues to grow and prosper, as unfortunately the kids buying the latest colour parts is the way that bmx and many other things can survive commercially and ensure that companies don't go under.
I don't care what people wear either, however I'm pretty sure that the tight jeans black tee look was started mainly by Jimmy Levan and the other metal riders as a move against the baggy skater look, and how long has he been around?
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Attitude, its all about the attitude man!
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Oh dear! First thing I read and everyones banging on the same as Streetphire!! Read that and your more like the kids than you think!!
I still wanna do new tricks and ive been riding nigh on 20 years, I don't bounce as well as I used to but I'll give owt a whirl, i'm appreciating how hard it is to nose manual without brakes and whip up a set of steps and i'm giving no brakes a go!
All these kids push bmx like everyone else did in the 80's, 90's whenever, and I'm sure if the internet was around then people would be banging on about what kids were wearing/ riding. I think it's mint to be fair! These kids I see come in the shop everyday and all of em are already better than I will ever be, whether they will be around in 5 years who cares'there will be another Scotty Cramner soon enough to take his place!and thats what we need to make us buy shiney new light things and watch the new dvds and go 'fuuuckkk!'
hows that for a first post. stick that in your pipe and smoke it mark!
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they are as cool as we were in the 80s........
and there arent enough of us to fall out.........its all about the kids ;D
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All the kids (some are a bit big to be called that now though) that i've met at any of the RAD meets have been great! superb riders and RAD as fook!!
as for the dress sense? well looking back i guess we've all been slaves to the latest fashions at some point?? but let em be and long live BMX! :daumenhoch:
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i havnt read the rest of this thread but i just been down the trails by myself doing some digging. 4 kids turn up all with tight jeans and stupid hair cuts and not 1 of them could be bothered to even say hello or speak about the trails. bet they will want to ride when its all done :Aresehole: :2gunsfiring_v1: :tickedoff:
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no dig no ride :)
im trying to track down pics of my old trails before they became houses :'(
those kids probably didnt understand what you were doing :tickedoff:
got any pics :)
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no dig no ride :)
sounds like my local newsagents...
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no dig no ride :)
sounds like my local newsagents...
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no not got any pics yet, i can get some next time i go down.
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;D
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no dig no ride :)
sounds like my local newsagents...
thats brilliant trev, love it