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Old School BMX 1980 - 1988 => Old School Race (riders ready, pedals ready... GO!!) => Topic started by: mike pardon on March 12, 2008, 08:54 PM
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40 year old men that should know better, going through mid life crisis's, trying to be like the young uns. With all the enthusiasm and non of the skills.
Its going to be a rimmingly good 2008 season
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I hope that in another 40 years time they have an 80+ class, & we are all still racing then!!! At last years World Masters Athletic Champs they had two 95 year olds racing in the 100 metres! ;D ;D
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Bit like men who do trackdays with all the enthusiasm and none of the skills :LolLolLolLol:
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an 80+ class
I'm almost in that class already Dave!! Old men on new bikes, getting an adrenalin fix doing something they really want to do. Can't see the problem really, though there's quite a few 'significant others' who don't share the dream. For some reason they can only see the carnage of broken bones and time off work. In the immortal words of Nike advertising - "just do it" !! Humps
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Look on the bright side, by the time your 80 half the significant others will be dead. :LolLolLolLol:
Mind you so will half of us. :'(
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I had an interesting conversation recently. A lad about half my age was telling me that whenever he went to Rom there was some 50 year old skater there who just carved around the same bowls, not doing any tricks, just carving/skating. The young lad didn't see the point. I told him the old geezer obviously still skated because of the "feeling" it gave him (not because of what he could do on a skateboard).
The old school and 40+ classes will always be seen by the masses as the old farts/stiffs classes, but the people who race those classes don't give a toss because of the feeling it gives them (us).
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well put mike totally agree, i"ve been training all winter and feeling really good getting my jumping skills on, then i fell off at wrexham and broke my wrist, then last week i fell off at hartlepool (wind caught me) and broke my finger, never seem to learn, we don"t bounce like we used to hope i don"t fall off at burnham :LolLolLolLol:
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well put mike totally agree, i"ve been training all winter and feeling really good getting my jumping skills on, then i fell off at wrexham and broke my wrist, then last week i fell off at hartlepool (wind caught me) and broke my finger, never seem to learn, we don"t bounce like we used to hope i don"t fall off at burnham :LolLolLolLol:
Thats my favourite quote at the moment when people ask me why ive bought so much body armour!! - go quicker more cofidence and when i dont bounce i have a reasonable chance of getting up and getting back on the bike. that and i dont have to explain to my boss why i cant come to work because ive fallen of a 'kids' bike! Dainese Evo Jackets - gotta love em!
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Old Farts!!! Mid Life Crisis!!! No Skills!!! Broken bones!!! Stiffs!!!
Yep, that sounds about right,
but who really gives a shit,
we enjoy doing it, we love the sport so why not???
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:) Go for it.I just hope that I can join you all when I`m 40.
PS Mike`s comments about the kid knocking the 40 yr old skater made me laugh.I`m friends with a guy who was a pro vert skater in the 80s/90s.He used to have his trucks welded `cos he couldn`t carve.Aired like hell though!
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Someone asked me yesterday when I thought I'd give up. I laughed and said I hope I never give up. When it stops becoming fun then I'll give up, when it's a effort to go racing then I'll give up. But at the moment it's a great laugh, I've met some great people and I get to be competitive with a lot of other competitive people. It's the people I race with and chat to on here that make it so much fun so fingers crossed we'll be here in 10 years time wondering if in our 50's we should know better. :LolLolLolLol:
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hope i don"t fall off at burnham :LolLolLolLol:
Russ, feel free to fall off in any motos we're in together this season (don't hurt yourself though). It's the only way I'm gonna finish a race in front of you! ;D
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Sounds like it wont be a freak class but a class full of oldish boys having the crack.
Good luck to you all!
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Bit like men who do trackdays with all the enthusiasm and none of the skills :LolLolLolLol:
Your damn right there buddy!! Got myself a gsxr1000k3 and a cbr600rr and I am living the dream
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ThIs statement I beg to differ?
40 year old men that should know better, going through mid life crisis's, trying to be like the young uns. With all the enthusiasm and non of the skills
Why with the respect you have obviously got Mike would you rock a boat that you are part of now with 'remarks' like this?
Utter respect to you for your training and fitness and of course your skills on a bike (they go without saying) but the 'Mid Life Crisis'?? Hey I have been through this ten times over BUT who gives a S**T because at the end of the day of the Kelvin, Laurence, Tuffs, Of course Liam P (Sorry Pete) et AL they are the future of BMX racing in the UK, what ever any body thinks? and whether the 40 + dreamers are there or not, they are enjoying it it 150%.
40+ all you guys get stuck in Kev R, Tony Slater etc etc keep on trucking boys because as UB says 'Keep It Real' you know what i mean ( Flats do rule).
No detriment at all to you Mike because I have seen you race and win. (Utter Respect for a 40 year old)'
This problem I have is that you get to 39 and HEY your gone,dead, forgotten B*****ks you do what you gotta do whatever it takes to enjoy your life, even if it means riding a kids bike with bigger wheels at what ever age!!! Billy Fieldhouse a prime example at 50+ I rest my case, the guys enthusiasm for this sport is beyond any figure, even by a millionaires standards.
I am expecting a lot of flack from this, but I am a big boy now living in the real world with a grand daughter.
Cheers for your time guys,
Paul.
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I'd never get bored of watching Mike racing no matter what age he is, he's a legend :smitten:
I think if you can do a competent race then go for it. I won't race because I'll fall off on the first jump and would be a laughing stock.
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You are missing the point, we know he's a very good bike rider and more than capable of giving of giving a 19+ rider a ver y good run for there money on any type of BMX track however technical!!
40 + is NOT a FREAK show, you go to E
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You are missing the point, we know he's a very good bike rider and more than capable of giving of giving a 19+ rider a ver y good run for there money on any type of BMX track however technical!!
40 + is NOT a FREAK show, you go to E
My point is if you can do a competent race then age shouldn't matter. My 'not getting bored of Mike' is a side comment because I've known him since he was 14, he used to come racing with us.
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Sorry Gents the fingers went a bit berserk!
40 + is not a freak show and this is NOT a 'slagging off' of Mike Pardon' at all, far from it.
Go into Europe and tell them once you are over 40 you are past it or in the 'Olde English' word 'F****d and see what responce you get?
No madam I look forward to 40 + next year even if I don't compete (dream as I my) its going to be very interesting?
Once again Cheers,
Paul.
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ThIs statement I beg to differ?
40 year old men that should know better, going through mid life crisis's, trying to be like the young uns. With all the enthusiasm and non of the skills
Why with the respect you have obviously got Mike would you rock a boat that you are part of now with 'remarks' like this?
Utter respect to you for your training and fitness and of course your skills on a bike (they go without saying) but the 'Mid Life Crisis'?? Hey I have been through this ten times over BUT who gives a S**T because at the end of the day of the Kelvin, Laurence, Tuffs, Of course Liam P (Sorry Pete) et AL they are the future of BMX racing in the UK, what ever any body thinks? and whether the 40 + dreamers are there or not, they are enjoying it it 150%.
40+ all you guys get stuck in Kev R, Tony Slater etc etc keep on trucking boys because as UB says 'Keep It Real' you know what i mean ( Flats do rule).
No detriment at all to you Mike because I have seen you race and win. (Utter Respect for a 40 year old)'
This problem I have is that you get to 39 and HEY your gone,dead, forgotten B*****ks you do what you gotta do whatever it takes to enjoy your life, even if it means riding a kids bike with bigger wheels at what ever age!!! Billy Fieldhouse a prime example at 50+ I rest my case, the guys enthusiasm for this sport is beyond any figure, even by a millionaires standards.
I am expecting a lot of flack from this, but I am a big boy now living in the real world with a grand daughter.
Cheers for your time guys,
Paul.
Well said caddy :daumenhoch: see you on the gate
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BOFFSTER
WAT YA RACIN REGIONLY LIKE
RUSS
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russ that is a very good question, I think it will have to be the faster cruiser class whatever that is, i presume 20 and cruiser are seperate. What are you riding. :)
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Bof are you going to burnham you old freak :LolLolLolLol: so we can race the other freaks ;) Fck me what is all that about
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I sure as freak am :LolLolLolLol: Luxury caravan booked im hoping to be at gate practice friday night. I cant wait but feeling a bit ashamed being a freak and all. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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WELL MR BOFF
LAST YR I RACED OPEN CRUISER(BORING),,ONLY 4 OF US AT HARTLEPOOL
SO THIS YR IM RACIN UP IN CRUISER BRUISER ,,,LOADS IN THERE AND GONNA BE SO BEIFICIAL ,,IF YA NEED COACHIN JUST ASK
RUSS :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
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cruiser bruiser it is then :LolLolLolLol:
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Crack on boys and enjoy the racing/battling/elbowing from your yowth days.
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Bof. love the picture on your profile. Damned used to be my fave band. Was not old enough to go to gigs, until I saw them At Hammersmith in 1984, when I got a bus up town strait after my History O level.
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CANT WAIT ME
BEEN P,,,SSIN ABOUT ALL WINTER ON HYPER
D,DAY HAS COME AND HAVE STARTED TRAININ LIKE A NUTT JOBB
HOPE YA GONNA BE ON FIRE MATE IT IS IN MY OPINION THE HARDEST CLASS UPP NORTH
R
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Russ I am glad I live in the East of this country, 1 race session with you lot from the North and this'Olde Frame' will be well hammered,that is of course IF I was any where near you?
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DONT WORRY PAUL
WILL SEE YA AT A FEW NATIONALS MATEY
R
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At 54
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i"ll be there fri nite bof hopefully stay on long enough to make racing saturday :LolLolLolLol:
just finished building my crowzer gonna see how she rides tomoz ready for BURNHAMMM!!!!
can"t believe how fast its come around see you on the gate mike :4_17_5:
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Bournemouth for a definite, my lad wants to come out of retirement (Ha Ha at 19) and race only if Nathan Routledge is back from the States?
Any way we can always get well pissed (Pete Kirk get the Stella organised, I'll sort the Bill) hey Dad Routledge??????????????????????
Paul.
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YA 54 MATE ,,,GOOD ON YA
DO YA STILL RIDE IN ANGER PAUL OR JUST FOR RTHE EXCITMENT THESE DAYS
RUSS :4_17_5:
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LOL - I'm pretty sure Mike was talking tongue in cheek!
Also a bit of pre-season banter no doubt...
I'll do him for ya all at the brits - not doing nationals so you'll have to wait til then Mike. Unless you're brave enough to come darn sarff. ;)
(See that was tongue in cheek too - I'll be on the 2nd straight when he crosses the finish line - If I'm lucky! )
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54 TOMORROW!!
Neither I do the London/Brighton BHF Charity ride with my good old team from Volkswagen UK and try to raise loads of money for the the 'Olde Heart Club'.
The Matlock Hill 54 TOMORROW!!
Killer for the same charity.
A big Geth Shooter fan and also DH.
Just enjoy this sport so much I cannot get shake it off even after 15 years in it, more with Simon (Son) than me.
If I am here I will get a license and look forward to seeing those in the C OR D final, because from what I am reading here and on the other sites it MAY (Prove me wrong??) a very FULL and interesting class?
Cheers,
Paul.
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Hey Guys I have just read Roongas reply and Hey we are far and way from the mark here.
'Freak' is what I am replying to not Mikes riding or racing ability.
Race fair and square bit of rivalry NO problem but we are all gents at this age 40+.
I still think this class 'MAY' be the talking point of 2008 from a purely BMX genuine racing outlook???
Take that as you like guys!
Once again,
Cheers,
Paul.
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Happy Bday Paul.
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Yes Caddy hope you're having a good birthday. Wish I was 54 again!! ;) Humps
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40 year old men that should know better, going through mid life crisis's, trying to be like the young uns. With all the enthusiasm and non of the skills.
Its going to be a rimmingly good 2008 season
Michael Sir, cough... 8)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj282/flemdogz/7-1.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj282/flemdogz/14.jpg)
...keep your stinky rimmers to your self and furthermore get that greyin' ass of yours down to Preston more, your missing out on all the fun! :)
Regards Flemdog: 40 and a quarter... >:D
AKA "Superfreak!" hee hee...
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Flem you should check your tyre pressure before you set off, its far easier. :LolLolLolLol:
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Its no midlife crisis ,just doing what we have always done,ride bmx's :4_17_5: :daumenhoch: im like a cripple due to injuries but im still giving it a go :daumenhoch:
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some of the wife's friends asked her if I was having a midlfie crisis at 36, getting into snowboarding and bmx.
the wife replied: it could be worse he could spend all his time in the pub (like some of their husbands)
it's great to have a (semi) understanding wife, even if she can't grasp that i need 3 bikes and I'm building two more. :LolLolLolLol:
she has however said in no uncertain terms that I am NOT trying street luge. :LolLolLolLol:
first time I rode my new school ride, in a concrete skate park, in the wet, on my own really early on sunday morning i had a complete blast. no skills, no tricks, just grins. for me that's what it's about, i know I'll never to taps and whips or drop in a vert ramp, but i don;t care, I enjoy what i can do.
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well said.........you only live once :daumenhoch:
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Your a very long time dead, so you'd better live your life while your alive and die with no regrets.
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ThIs statement I beg to differ?
40 year old men that should know better, going through mid life crisis's, trying to be like the young uns. With all the enthusiasm and non of the skills
Why with the respect you have obviously got Mike would you rock a boat that you are part of now with 'remarks' like this?
Utter respect to you for your training and fitness and of course your skills on a bike (they go without saying) but the 'Mid Life Crisis'?? Hey I have been through this ten times over BUT who gives a S**T because at the end of the day of the Kelvin, Laurence, Tuffs, Of course Liam P (Sorry Pete) et AL they are the future of BMX racing in the UK, what ever any body thinks? and whether the 40 + dreamers are there or not, they are enjoying it it 150%.
40+ all you guys get stuck in Kev R, Tony Slater etc etc keep on trucking boys because as UB says 'Keep It Real' you know what i mean ( Flats do rule).
No detriment at all to you Mike because I have seen you race and win. (Utter Respect for a 40 year old)'
This problem I have is that you get to 39 and HEY your gone,dead, forgotten B*****ks you do what you gotta do whatever it takes to enjoy your life, even if it means riding a kids bike with bigger wheels at what ever age!!! Billy Fieldhouse a prime example at 50+ I rest my case, the guys enthusiasm for this sport is beyond any figure, even by a millionaires standards.
I am expecting a lot of flack from this, but I am a big boy now living in the real world with a grand daughter.
Cheers for your time guys,
Paul.
Hey Paul, whoever you are, the thread was meant tongue in cheek pal. Always had enough respect for people whatever there age ability to ride a bmx bike. Best thing for me is beating kids 20+ years younger than me and still having more balls than them over the jumps.
Mid life crisis,,, yeah been having them since i was 20.
Even Flem was aroused by this thread cant be a bad thing. Why is he trying to clean his tyres whilst in the air though? Oh yeah i think your more grey than me now Flemasaurus!!!!
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JUST REMEMBER HOW FAR BMX HAS COME AND JUST THINK BACK TO THE DADS RACE THESE GUYS WERE UNSKILLED SLOW AND COULD HARDLY RIDE A BIT OF A LAUGH BACK THEN....
NOW IN 2008 THE DADS RACE IS NOW 40+ AND PEEPS ARE TAKING NOTE. SUPER FAST GUYS SOME MORE SKILLED THAN OTHERS BUT ALL DOIN THE BEST THEY CAN AND SHOWING THE YOUNG ONES THAT WE AINT BEAT YET. :knuppel2:
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Hayes Winter Series Cruiser class was 13+ (age) the
top 4 riders were from 40+ nuff said.
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Mike, enough said.
Utter respect to you guys and have some good racing this year.
Paul.
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oops missed this thread :-[
39 soon and cannot wait to do 40+ next year
Paul hope you had a great birthday? you are one of the gentlemen of this great sport
:) DINGO :)
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Hayes Winter Series Cruiser class was 13+ (age) the
top 4 riders were from 40+ nuff said.
And you won the series overall :daumenhoch: well done kev you old freak :LolLolLolLol:
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are we all not just doing what we love, be it racing or freestyle, we were all brought up on this , i know this was tongue in cheek mike, but it used to get on my wick when people said to me isnt that a kids bike :knuppel2: then recently my sister in law said isnt that a girls bike :uglystupid2: whats the difference in having a kick around the park with your kids , or going down the sk8park ??? i know the bikes are small, but im never going to get a crowser, ive got a mtb thats got big enough wheels for me, i hope im still riding a bmx when im 50 :) might not beable to move very far but what the hey :daumenhoch: its all fun, and i love these ikle bikes :4_17_5:
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Thanks Mark we did have a good time.
This was never intended to have a pop at anyone I have the utmost respect for each and every one of you 40+ riders, even though my skills on a bike are about 1% of Mikes, Flems, Kev's, Tony Slater et al.
I enjoy riding even though it is last most of the time on a BMX track.
I have a 20 inch and a 24 inch DK built up to a nice spec in the hope that Simon (son) will get back out there and keep his old man happy??
Paul.
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Great Thread. :daumenhoch:
Anybody who's a regular here,will see Mike fires in these cheeky topics now and again and they always get a good ol' discussion goin' on.
Flem ^ Fantastic Pics.Thats the way to do it. Good Luck this year.
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Heres my 40+ freakshow bike :LolLolLolLol: decals by Del :4_17_5:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u74/wussy67/DSC00189.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u74/wussy67/DSC00188.jpg)
come on BURNHAMMMM!!!! :Great_Britain:
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Well having just returned from Burnham national & seeing how hard it was for me just to make the A final in 40+ i would say it def ISNT a freak show at all!!!
Back in 05 (when i first raced again since quiting in 83) there were four or five 'racers' in 40+ who had speed + skills, the rest were riders dads, having a bit of fun riding round the track (nothing wrong with that).(i guess thats what Mike calls the 'freakshow')
Fast forward to 08 & all 19 riders @Burnham were capable of doing well, all turned up to RACE & race they did!
All of them were very experienced racers that had the 'snap', power & skills to match & most of them did well in younger groups in the last few years.
Watching the 'B' final i reckon that was as quick if not quicker than some of the 'A' finals from a few years ago.
The main difference now is that a 'pack' of riders goes round the track where a couple years ago one or two riders would leave everyone & the riders would be spread out with the winners finishing ten seconds before everyone else.
Come & race again Mike & youll see how much its changed in just a couple of years!!
Besides, we haven't raced each other since 1981 & i just checked the result it was a national at Ipswich & i got 1st & you were 2nd so you need to come & pay me back!........... ;)
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Well having just returned from Burnham national & seeing how hard it was for me just to make the A final in 40+ i would say it def ISNT a freak show at all!!!
Back in 05 (when i first raced again since quiting in 83) there were four or five 'racers' in 40+ who had speed + skills, the rest were riders dads, having a bit of fun riding round the track (nothing wrong with that).(i guess thats what Mike calls the 'freakshow')
Fast forward to 08 & all 19 riders @Burnham were capable of doing well, all turned up to RACE & race they did!
All of them were very experienced racers that had the 'snap', power & skills to match & most of them did well in younger groups in the last few years.
Watching the 'B' final i reckon that was as quick if not quicker than some of the 'A' finals from a few years ago.
The main difference now is that a 'pack' of riders goes round the track where a couple years ago one or two riders would leave everyone & the riders would be spread out with the winners finishing ten seconds before everyone else.
Come & race again Mike & youll see how much its changed in just a couple of years!!
Besides, we haven't raced each other since 1981 & i just checked the result it was a national at Ipswich & i got 1st & you were 2nd so you need to come & pay me back!........... ;)
Nice one KEITH, sorry mate my cruiser racing is over. Glad it is more competitive now, it needed to be after the last two years. But in all honesty it should be the younger classes that are getting swelled with new blood. Thats the future
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Shame youre not racing cruiser Mike, i reckon a 40+ 20inch class would easily get enough riders now though.
40+ is gonna get more & more cometitive every year i reckon, theres a lot of fast riders that'll be 40 in the next few years & i cant see them giving up or getting slower!
I understand where your'e coming from though buddy, one of the reasons i stopped after 05 was that there just wasnt enough 40+ers around back then that rode well to make it a challenge to race, as i've said before though its very different now!!
Agree with the new blood thing totally, puts a big smile on my face watching my 4yr old rip down our garden track pumping, jumping & ripping through the turns, then seeing him win at hayes against older kids was cool, he's the future for sure!!!
Progression is good, seeing how much some riders have improved in the three years since i last went racing is cool, guys like Bradley Watts, Reece Harper & Matty Kirk have come on loads + loads more whose names i dont know!! :Great_Britain:
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Just back from Burnham, the first national of the year, all the racing was mint and TBH the 40+ was bloody exciting, not quite as good as Flemdog, Alan Hill and TJ Baldwin in the 30-39 cruiser, that was blinding, TJ is as sketchy as fook but also as rad as they come.
Back to Keiths comments, I also think the time is right for a 40+ 20", I would get blitzed in the masters, but I love 20". It seems a shame to have to go cruiser, either that or have an Old School gate as well :angel:
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I would certainly go 20" if it was 40+, i already practice on
a Dialled mx20, i did a thread last year about who would
be up for it but there was not enough positive response
even though Roger at bc said it would not be a problem
as long as there was enogh numbers.Time for a new
debate?
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I would certainly go 20" if it was 40+, i already practice on
a Dialled mx20, i did a thread last year about who would
be up for it but there was not enough positive response
even though Roger at bc said it would not be a problem
as long as there was enogh numbers.Time for a new
debate?
Prob twice as many 40+'ers now so yes i reckon so!!
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i would do a 40+ 20'' series :daumenhoch:
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Well if there is to be a 40+ 20" class then it will be next year before it can start now, so plenty of time to set it up if it`s a go`er :daumenhoch:
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BE BRILL
I CAN THEN TRANSFER ALL MY OLD SCKOOL RACIN SKILLS ON TO A NEW SCKOOL RIDE
OH YEH ,,DADDY,S GOT A SWEET TOOTH TONIGHT
RUSS
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Im up for 40+ 20 inch racing. ;)
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i"m def up for it :daumenhoch:
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Count me in for 20' 40+ also. Planning to get a 20 when/if I get my bonus this year anyway, so was just going to get mashed in the Masters otherwise..... SMART....
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It would be good if the 40+ had the option of 20" or cruiser like the other age groups, but after only 12 people raced cruiser at Burnham on Sunday, I think BC will retain the view that there aren't enough 40+ riders to merit having 2 classes.
Personally, I think running 40+ as an open class is a more viable option until we get more riders, that way people can race whichever bike they prefer.
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having raced the winter national series last year with mixed classes i dont see why it shouldnt work ok, in my 33-36 group there were only 2 of us on 20" but didnt stop us getting 2nd and 3rd overall. its great too see so many older riders getting back into it and getting thier kids involved too its all bmx and more riders which cant be bad. :daumenhoch: