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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: magna13 on March 23, 2008, 10:45 AM
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Hi Everyone.
Raleigh Have Done Another Burner, But This One Is My Favorite. Firstly They Brought Us The Team Then They Showed Us The Super Tuff At MK07, Well Now There Giving Us The Mag Burner (The White MK2 Model).
It Is A Nice Looking Bike, But Its A Defo Shame About That Chainwheel ::) ::)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u193/zakw13/d8dd_1.jpg)
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i thought the team aero pro was a fantastic idea to celebrate
the 25th anniversary but to keep knocking out cheap copies
of the whole range based on the tange frame has cheapened
the original concept :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2:
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that was my exsact thought aswell dwain. and as much as i do adore my burners, i think £250 a pop is a bit expensive. i think they should price them the way they did back in the eighties. keep selling the team, super tuff and mag but at different prices.
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They must have sold a few to keep knocking them out though.
Plus the Burner name is etched into a minds of parents.
They should be cheaper. It could turn alot of youngsters into BMXers.
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i personally dont think the price is to bad
but they should have just made the TAP as they promised
and left it at that ::) ::)
if that had happened it would have been as special as the
originals, but it looks like the suits have got involved and who
knows where it will end :tickedoff:
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They must have sold a few to keep knocking them out though.
Plus the Burner name is etched into a minds of parents.
They should be cheaper. It could turn alot of youngsters into BMXers.
Like It did In The 80's?
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Most kids started with a Burner.
I think the suits at Raliegh have been waiting all these years for BMX to come into fashion again.
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:) I understand the TAP,but think the rest the range are a blatant cash-in.Raleigh`s only interest is purely financial.They have no real interest or care about BMX whatsoever.My local bike shop has had a hard time trying to shift the so called"Burners"that he has.People do come in and look and get all nostalgic,then go "Nah,it`s just a POS".
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I Dont Think You Can Call Them A POS But I Think If They Made Abit More Cheaper, Made The Range Wider (Mag 20, Extra, Chromo etc.) And Sold Them In Alot More Stores Then Kids Would Have Them!
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They're too expensive.
If they did a few around £100-150 then they'd probably kick start the craze again.
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They're too expensive.
If they did a few around £100-150 then they'd probably kick start the craze again.
Yep Thats What I Would Suggest. I Think If They Were That Price, Loads! Of People Would Buy Them!!
Come On Raleigh, Lets Make The AP Burners Cheaper And Sell Them In More Stores Country Wide! :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
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i think they should do a bit of rebranding, its just that name that spoils what is now a decent looking bike, when i here skoda i still think of sh.t cars when realy they are all excellant being part of the V.A.G group, they should do what toyota did with lexus, they could then charge a premium price for their product and they then wouldnt be 10,000,000 of them on the same street ;)
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:daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: Raleigh!, Raleigh!, Raleigh!
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gotta disagree guys.
yes bmx is back in fashion at the moment
but its a totally different style to what we knew.
newschool bikes are completely different. burners i can
only see appealing to 30 somethings for purely nostalgic reasons.
and as such should have been left to a limited run.
i cant see many parents buying one for their kids and the kid being happy.
can you imagine turning up at a skatepark with one :shocked: :shocked:
you thought we got ribbed as a kid for having a burner, can you imagine what
it would be like now :D :D
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I Agree To Dwain, But I Dont Think Theres Anything Wrong With Kids Having Them. And Usually Kids Never Go To Skateparks, And They Would Defo Buy These Over A Magna, Vibe Or Apollo Espiecially With The Quality Decals And Eye Opening Skyways, You Will Look The Kiddie
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I think they should do a new school cheap Burner.
Unless they do already. I just don't know?
They should be like the NS quad and ripper. NS geometry and components but retro.
That could pee off the Burner Lads though!!
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Thats A Good Idea Moley :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
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like this one :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
(http://i5.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/bf/d6/cfc5_12.JPG)
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POS :10_2_12:
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the parts on the tap07 were so crap, could raleigh not work with dia comp and kashimax and do a proper replica!! and are dia comp and kashimax still in buisness!! :)
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Dia-Compe Are Still In Buisness Big Time. And I Think Kashimax Are Having A Comeback With One Of The Old Seats.
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Burners were always a bit crappy apart from the top end ones.
You need a good quality bike for as cheap as you can get it.
It must be rideable and not some cheap ASDA bike.
It also has to be marketed right.
BITD the Burner adverts were pretty good.
Raleigh must have done something right BITD
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the parts on the tap07 were so crap, could raleigh not work with dia comp and kashimax and do a proper replica!! and are dia comp and kashimax still in buisness!! :)
its been mentioned several times but if they fitted top quality or one off repo parts
the price of the the bike would be double :shocked:
and would you pay £500 for one?? ??
i love the concept of these bikes and dont mind they are cheap, come on the originals
were never known for the quality ;D
what gets me is the way they keep knocking out more models, i mean how lazy are Raleigh.
that "mag burner" is just the super tuff painted white ::) ::)
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:) I`m still not swayed on Raleigh bikes.They do have a newer alloy framed race bike-Burner Race? Alans were doing them for £160.That seems to be the only proper decent BMX they have.Maybe they could have based the re-issues or whatever you call them around that?
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Burners were always a bit crappy apart from the top end ones.
You need a good quality bike for as cheap as you can get it.
It must be rideable and not some cheap ASDA bike.
It also has to be marketed right.
BITD the Burner adverts were pretty good.
Raleigh must have done something right BITD
Why Cant They Advertise Their AP Burners In rideBMXmag, Like And Old School Looking Advert And Then It May Pursuade Kids To Get Them. Raleigh The Oppurtunity Is There! Get Some Dosh And A Couple Of Bikes And Put An Advert In RideBMX!!!!
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i heard a rumour that at bb08 raleigh will be there with something special!! the something special involved words aero pro & alley!! 8) 8)
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:shocked: :shocked:, I Like What I Hear, Tell Me More!
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name change to raliegh renrub :LolLolLolLol:
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Or Overpriced Crap,Cheaper Overpriced Crap and Overpriced Crap with Mags......
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E before the I, never I before the E !!
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I love the retro burners, and to be honest I've never had a dig at burners, but I'm not so sure about this :-\, Argos £99.99. Stick with the retro stuff Raleigh
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/s6/aerostylie/0370424A66UC289289X.jpg)
Paul :)
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:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:, Now Thats What I Call A POS Lol
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Just Went Over To The BMX Racing Forum To Look At The OS Race Pictures That Have Recently Just Been Posted, And Looks Whats 1st Place In This Pic...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u193/zakw13/RACEPICS143.jpg)
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Just Went Over To The BMX Racing Forum To Look At The OS Race Pictures That Have Recently Just Been Posted, And Looks Whats 1st Place In This Pic...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u193/zakw13/RACEPICS143.jpg)
no no no, its the others about to lap him :LolLolLolLol:
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:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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i heard a rumour that at bb08 raleigh will be there with something special!! the something special involved words aero pro & alley!! 8) 8)
???
I'd love to know who dreamt this up???
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if any one knows you know!! so it;s not true :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain:
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Its news to me.... ???
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Its news to me.... ???
:LolLolLolLol:
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Raleigh will be attending... but there will be nothing Aero Pro... and nothing Alley???? :idiot2:
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what would be the chances that raleigh would do a replica working with dc & kashimax . i know it would cost , but would be nice to kick start them in making mx1000 and aero;s. this new stuff is crap , nos prices getting out of control :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain:
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i think the last thing we need is more replica stuff ::) ::)
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Impossible... the cost of all the tooling to be remade would not be recoverable from the sale of the bikes... It was looked into at the time of the TAP07 and the costs were just not practical.
The tooling alone for a Kashimax Aero came in at £4k..... little did Raleigh know that Kashimax would be re-releasing the Aero this year.... ;D ;D as for Dia-Compe re-tooling for the MX1000/900's... would the demand justify the cost??? its not just a case of knocking out a few hundred sets.... for this kind of manufacturing to be justifiable you are talking about 1000's of pieces being retooled and remanufactured.
I know the TAP07 has taken a battering in some quarters... but the F&F's are 'quality'!!! and throw into that a set of BRAND NEW Tuffs... and all of a sudden the £250 is not that bad... Yes it has Tektro brakes.... as do dozens of other NEW bikes... MirraCo's, Haro's... etc etc...
I agree the seat, bars & Crankset were below par... but anyone wanting to use the bike seriously would instantly swap those anyway...
People have moaned about the price tag.... Do you have any idea how much the bike would have had to retail at, had Raleigh pushed for 'every' component to be remanufactured... they would have sold half a dozen bikes!!!!!
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Beard, I Love The Burners As You Must Know But I Think £250 For The Team Is Resonable But £250 For The Super Tuff And Mag, Well It Just Seems A Bit Pricey For Those 2. What Do You Think??
Zak
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Beard, I Love The Burners As You Must Know But I Think £250 For The Team Is Resonable But £250 For The Super Tuff And Mag, Well It Just Seems A Bit Pricey For Those 2. What Do You Think??
Zak
Whats the difference???? PAINT!!!!
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thanx beard for that; do you know the link for the kashimax. :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain:
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I Guess Your Right, But I Think Raleigh Should Price The Different Burner Models Like They Did In The 80's And Not Sell Them All At The Same Price.
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I Guess Your Right, But I Think Raleigh Should Price The Different Burner Models Like They Did In The 80's And Not Sell Them All At The Same Price.
But they are ALL THE SAME BIKE now.... :idiot2: how could they justify selling one bike £100 cheaper cos' it got Gold Paint on????
ps - Have you got Capital Letter Torrets?
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beard i have no problems with these bikes at all.
i ordered the TAP as soon as heard about it and was so looking
forward to owning one.
i think £250 is a good price and appreciate them for what they are
but as soon as they started bringing out boxfresh,STB, and now the MAG
i think the original concept has been lost :(
is there plans for an ultra,extra,tuff ??
and whats hppening with the burnerworld edition?
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I Guess Your Right, But I Think Raleigh Should Price The Different Burner Models Like They Did In The 80's And Not Sell Them All At The Same Price.
But they are ALL THE SAME BIKE now.... :idiot2: how could they justify selling one bike £100 cheaper cos' it got Gold Paint on????
ps - Have you got Capital Letter Torrets?
Ok You Have A Point.
P.S. No I Dont Have Capital Letter Torrets... You'd Better Ask MADD DOGG That Q
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beard i have no problems with these bikes at all.
i ordered the TAP as soon as heard about it and was so looking
forward to owning one.
i think £250 is a good price and appreciate them for what they are
but as soon as they started bringing out boxfresh,STB, and now the MAG
i think the original concept has been lost :(
is there plans for an ultra,extra,tuff ??
and whats hppening with the burnerworld edition?
The Burnerworld Edition is still in the pipeline and is awaiting some 'details' from the guys upstairs at Raleigh...
As for other editions.. extra.. ultra.. etc etc... I doubt it.. I was suprised when they brought out this latest Mag Burner.
What I would like to see is them concentrating on a 'decent' new school bike....
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P.S. No I Dont Have Capital Letter Torrets... You'd Better Ask MADD DOGG That Q
He just shouts.... you on the other hand use a CAPITAL letter at the beginning of EVERY word...??? Is this what they are teaching at schools nowadays?
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P.S. No I Dont Have Capital Letter Torrets... You'd Better Ask MADD DOGG That Q
He just shouts.... you on the other hand use a CAPITAL letter at the beginning of EVERY word...??? Is this what they are teaching at schools nowadays?
Whats Wrong With Using Capitals At The Beginning Of Each Word?
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P.S. No I Dont Have Capital Letter Torrets... You'd Better Ask MADD DOGG That Q
He just shouts.... you on the other hand use a CAPITAL letter at the beginning of EVERY word...??? Is this what they are teaching at schools nowadays?
Whats Wrong With Using Capitals At The Beginning Of Each Word?
cos it looks stupid .and stop trying to cause a row zak
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P.S. No I Dont Have Capital Letter Torrets... You'd Better Ask MADD DOGG That Q
He just shouts.... you on the other hand use a CAPITAL letter at the beginning of EVERY word...??? Is this what they are teaching at schools nowadays?
Whats Wrong With Using Capitals At The Beginning Of Each Word?
cos it looks stupid .and stop trying to cause a row zak
ok im sorry. dont meen to upset anyone :( i wont write like that anymore then.
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I'd love to see a Tuff aero pro :daumenhoch:
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I'd love to see a Tuff aero pro :daumenhoch:
your wish is my command :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
do you want my paypal addy?? ? :2funny: :2funny:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a158/dwaindibbly/IMG_1862.jpg)
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That's a SuperTuff........I mean Tuff...the blue and yellow one!
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you mean the team aero pro??
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you mean the team aero pro??
No this one....
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/f171/Ph0eb3/jacksmates001-1.jpg)
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ahhh tuff burner :daumenhoch:
dont think it woulld look right
with an aero frame :)
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If they did a proper remake of that frame etc i would buy one, first bmx i ever saw and the one that got me going but my mum got me a Grifter, she is just like the parents who come into my shop they really do not have a clue what the kid wants which is why the burners are probably selling as to most parents they are a bmx which is what little johnny wants for his birthday etc but i must agree i think Raleigh have over milked this cow, i was quite excited when i got my TAP but its still in the box untouched and im not rally that bothered.
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I'm surprised no one has got a TAP07 painted blue and stuck on yellow tuffs yet...
I bought a TAP07 and kept it in the box and duely sold it, wish i kept it now.. want to sell yours Dave? :) I quite like the look of the Supertuff but the Mag burner is pushing it! I would have thought a chrome Aero Pro would have been a much better bike for them to market.
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I thought about chopping it out Del but couldnt be bothered in the end apparently their are still loads about wasn't pickel or someone trying to flog theirs last week with a pick of it built in a spare room.