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Title: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: Trev on March 24, 2008, 07:19 PM

It would appear that no one seems to have one of these or even knows anyone with one of these.
So should one suddenly appear, how much do you reckon it would go for?
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on March 24, 2008, 07:28 PM
 :) I guess you could ask whatever you wanted.Some wealthy UK collector would probably snap it up,then tease us all mercillessly! Then there would be a load of bitching,ie is it genuine etc.Sooner or later one is going to pop up.How many were made, and were they sold through shops or just Holeshot themselves?
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: Trev on March 24, 2008, 07:32 PM
i think i remember reading somewhere once that only about 150 were made. i imagine Neil broke a few. Robert too.  Don't know how close to the truth that is.
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: Flatcap on March 24, 2008, 07:35 PM

It would appear that no one seems to have one of these or even knows anyone with one of these.
So should one suddenly appear, how much do you reckon it would go for?

Is that a loaded question Trev?  :P

Daz.
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: RATTY on March 24, 2008, 07:36 PM
I still drive through Walthamstow at 10mph, just looking for an Ace or RF1. I will find one or the other one day, after all thats where both frames were born.
Me an Nik found a young kid on a Hutch the other day, but he refused to sell it..pmsl, if it is a Holeshot or Ace I may have to try more persuasive tactics :knuppel2:  :knuppel2:   :knuppel2:  :angel:
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: Trev on March 24, 2008, 07:40 PM

It would appear that no one seems to have one of these or even knows anyone with one of these.
So should one suddenly appear, how much do you reckon it would go for?

Is that a loaded question Trev?  :P

Daz.

I think I'd probably be able to pay a large chunk of my mortgage off if it were.   ::)
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: lodge on March 24, 2008, 07:42 PM
Have mentioned before on here that  I am 99% sure it was Bernie Vincent of vincent frames that manufactured (In the uk) the holeshot frames, they did have a reputation bitd of breaking as did the Airzone frame that vincent made. in the 80's every bfa national neil rode he was riding a different colour holeshot frame was this because he was braking them? I heard they sold 250 of them.
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: SaMAlex on March 24, 2008, 07:43 PM
As we all know, a something is only "worth" what someone is going to pay.

And as its only Trev who keeps going on about RF1s then I cant see one fetching that much  >:D :2funny:


One was stolen from a shed, just outside Banbury. It was bought direct from Andy Ruffel by one of the Mons Ramp locals, after he had a ride on Neils when they shot the Holeshot add there
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: harris on March 24, 2008, 07:49 PM
i think a frame set in any condition would hit over £1000/1500
well i would think so.

i can ask bernie or his daughter as hes in spain relaxing /retired.
might still have the drawings  .
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: Stodgy on March 24, 2008, 07:55 PM

I have one in the shed, are they rare then?
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: SaMAlex on March 24, 2008, 07:56 PM

I have one in the shed, are they rare then?

No dave,  Ive seen the photo .... thats Quad Pete you have in your shed!
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: Flaz on March 24, 2008, 08:07 PM

I have one in the shed, are they rare then?

no dave thats a pro burner
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: Flatcap on March 24, 2008, 08:10 PM
Don't think I've ever seen one close up.....I wasn't doing many comps by the time they came out so only really saw them in the magazines I think. I don't remember seeing one up close but then again there's lots of stuff I can't remember these days!  ::)

Surely there's other bikes that they didn't make loads of as well as the RF-1......how many WAL Riots were made for instance, later I know but you don't see many.

I'm rambling again!

Daz.
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: SaMAlex on March 24, 2008, 08:16 PM
how many WAL Riots were made for instance, later I know but you don't see many.



Yeah, there's a reason you dont see many WAL Riots ..... They were awful!  :-X
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: Flatcap on March 24, 2008, 08:20 PM
how many WAL Riots were made for instance, later I know but you don't see many.



Yeah, there's a reason you dont see many WAL Riots ..... They were awful!  :-X

Saucer of milk for Alex please..... ;)
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: lodge on March 24, 2008, 08:30 PM
I think the RF-1 would be easily recognised the top tube platform was wide at the seat tube like a streetbeat i think it had a rotor tab on the headtube which was pretty rare for the time. The decals were poor the same as the decals they used to hand out at the holeshot comps, most of the frames i seen robert and neil ride had no decals.
If you saw an RF-1 from a distance it resembled a streetbeat suppose this is not surprising considering neil had just come off skyway.
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: WARDY on March 24, 2008, 08:31 PM
I think dordymush is after one  :LolLolLolLol:

http://www.bmxtalk.co.uk/viewtopic.php't=10597&sid=15516c1bc467f5043ef03f60c2e0cd15
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: SaMAlex on March 24, 2008, 08:31 PM
how many WAL Riots were made for instance, later I know but you don't see many.


Yeah, there's a reason you dont see many WAL Riots ..... They were awful!  :-X

Saucer of milk for Alex please..... ;)


 :LolLolLolLol:

Im just having a pop at my mate Geoff, cos he worked/rode for WAL in the early years, and had about 3 Riots

But they were pretty horrid frames.  ;D


(He might still have 2 of the frames. He gave one to a mate of ours a few years ago and it got stolen from outside his house).
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: brass monkey! on March 24, 2008, 08:36 PM
http://bmx-recollection.com/Downloads/Archive%20-%20Knowledge%20Base/Adverts/Holeshot%20RF%201%20Advert.jpg

 ;)
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: WARDY on March 24, 2008, 08:38 PM
Just found these old adverts for different bmx f/f and parts , quite a good page as it goes , have a browse , the holeshot is on there :daumenhoch:

http://bmx-recollection.com/Downloads/Archive%20-%20Knowledge%20Base/Adverts/'m=D
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: WARDY on March 24, 2008, 08:39 PM
http://bmx-recollection.com/Downloads/Archive%20-%20Knowledge%20Base/Adverts/Holeshot%20RF%201%20Advert.jpg

 ;)

Fook me Matt :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: lodge on March 24, 2008, 08:40 PM
Thanks for the link, i was gonna go looking for a pic of one, I didn't like to say the quality was rubbish but check the welds. (Sorry Bernie if it was you)
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: brass monkey! on March 24, 2008, 08:42 PM
http://bmx-recollection.com/Downloads/Archive%20-%20Knowledge%20Base/Adverts/Holeshot%20RF%201%20Advert.jpg

 ;)

Fook me Matt :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:

only 2 mins too late ! LOL !!
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: Longun on March 24, 2008, 10:23 PM
Mission Grove? That's can't be more than 500yds from my house!
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: lodge on March 24, 2008, 10:30 PM
Mission Grove? That's can't be more than 500yds from my house!






Was that the Ruff household then?
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: RATTY on March 24, 2008, 10:44 PM
Just round the corner from me mums ::)
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: Trev on March 24, 2008, 11:07 PM
Mission Grove? That's can't be more than 500yds from my house!






Was that the Ruff household then?

yep
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: Dark Diggler on March 24, 2008, 11:12 PM

It would appear that no one seems to have one of these or even knows anyone with one of these.
So should one suddenly appear, how much do you reckon it would go for?

Were they looptail
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: Flatcap on March 25, 2008, 03:43 PM
First time I've seen this....

Daz.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p11/Teammaster2007/Neil20Hits20The20Bars.jpg)
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: Trev on March 25, 2008, 03:53 PM
tut tut mr ruffell. black blocks on white tuffs.
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: Swivel on March 25, 2008, 04:06 PM
Good find that ad, but Daz can you get that scanned any larger?

Does look mighty like a streetbeat!
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: b45t4rd on March 25, 2008, 04:12 PM
 ;)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u206/b45t4rdtorker/9.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u206/b45t4rdtorker/10.jpg)
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: mark 2 on March 25, 2008, 04:49 PM
I don't want one if it feels very long at the back and tends to alley-opp in the air, you can keep 'em :yahoo_silent:
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: thecrooch on March 25, 2008, 05:26 PM
I had another Vincent Frame - was a very long Race frame- only 4 were made but i stupidly sold it about  5 years ago for about £60. The things you do...

It was made for a small race team which i think was run by sam Woods? though not sure if thats the correct name....
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: welsh denny on March 25, 2008, 06:51 PM
Mission Grove? That's can't be more than 500yds from my house!






Was that the Ruff household then?

yep


i remember as a kid going to london on the train with the family and i talked em into taking me to walthemstow to see where andy ruffell hung out./or lived. we found the address and a blonde woman was leaving his house as he said goodbye to her. quarterpipes in the yard too. allthat time on the underground and getting lost trying to find mission grove  for that brief glimpse. how sad i was then. :idiot2:
Title: Re: Holeshot RF-1
Post by: Dark Diggler on March 25, 2008, 08:21 PM
How can something so mystical look so fooking average, Streetbeat lookalack.
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