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Title: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 08, 2008, 09:14 PM
I dont like it , its realy ugly, but im sure someon might like it  :crazy2:
http://www.gtbicycles.com/gbr/eng/bmx_race#2667

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m279/zed2000/2667_599_large.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: macky on April 08, 2008, 09:17 PM

I would no longer consider that to be Bmx!! 20 inch or not!!  :wtf:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 08, 2008, 09:23 PM
its a bit sci fi   :shocked: may be a bmx movie set  in the future  ;)
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: se bikes on April 08, 2008, 09:42 PM
piece of shit if you ask me :crazy2: :crazy2: looks all wrong :knuppel2: :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: RATTY on April 08, 2008, 09:43 PM
Id like to take one for a spin, but it looks sh1t :angel:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 08, 2008, 09:49 PM
so no one likes it yet    :LolLolLolLol:  this kind of thing had been tryed many times before, i still dont think you can beat the good old double d frame   :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: THIRSTYKIRSTY on April 08, 2008, 09:52 PM
NOT FOND OF THIS GT AT ALL

BUT ITS PROGRESSION

IM WITH ZED

YA CANT BEET THE DOUBLE DIAMOND FRAME

RUSS :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 08, 2008, 09:54 PM
this is like re-inventing the wheel  :uglystupid2:  all they have done is tryed to make something look very hi-tech  ???
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: perry on April 08, 2008, 09:56 PM
back of the hand  :knuppel2:

no , no , no zed  :yahoo_silent:

i have the same desire to hammer a nail through that kind of stuff as i do the folded orange frames ( even though they are bloody good )

top fuel dragsters dont follow technical advancements and they are still the fastest accelerating things on the land

double diamond bmx for me all the way  :yahoo_silent:

if i saw someone on that shit ill push em over and kick dirt in their faces

whats going to happen ! someone on an already iffy looking "traditional" bike will line up against that crap with its -1/2lb in weight or whatver itl be and then lose , put it down to the frame and not their crap ride on a particular day in a particular race , all of a sudden all the top racers have monococks and then the trickle effect starts

im already sick of ugly mtbs and road bikes , bmx is barely hanging onto the "tube"

i had to put the glass of wine down to type this one  :shocked: :yahoo_silent:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: stidds on April 08, 2008, 10:04 PM
Oh well it looks as though I am the only one who likes it.

Seriously, I think it is funky as fook.
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: perry on April 08, 2008, 10:07 PM
just one more step that brings bmx closer to trials to me  :buck2:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: bmxmatt1974 on April 08, 2008, 10:14 PM
yeah thats nice  :-[








not
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: groover247 on April 08, 2008, 10:25 PM
a dbl diamond cromo frame is all that is needed.

period

sutty
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: macky on April 09, 2008, 01:18 AM

I just dont like it...    :yahoo_silent:

I dont see why they'd want to change the frame anyway?

Other than possible weight loss ( which ya can get with titanium ) wot other benefits can this frame bring to racing??

It's like they're trying to move away from what Bmx is if you know wot i mean...

It's just not a Bmx...  but maybe thats what they want eh??  :-\





Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 09, 2008, 04:49 AM
back of the hand  :knuppel2:

no , no , no zed  :yahoo_silent:

i have the same desire to hammer a nail through that kind of stuff as i do the folded orange frames ( even though they are bloody good )

top fuel dragsters dont follow technical advancements and they are still the fastest accelerating things on the land

double diamond bmx for me all the way  :yahoo_silent:

if i saw someone on that shit ill push em over and kick dirt in their faces

whats going to happen ! someone on an already iffy looking "traditional" bike will line up against that crap with its -1/2lb in weight or whatver itl be and then lose , put it down to the frame and not their crap ride on a particular day in a particular race , all of a sudden all the top racers have monocock-a-doodle-dos and then the trickle effect starts

im already sick of ugly mtbs and road bikes , bmx is barely hanging onto the "tube"

i had to put the glass of wine down to type this one  :shocked: :yahoo_silent:

i agree mate ,as i said i hate it, for me its cromo dd all the way    :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: Flaz on April 09, 2008, 06:13 AM
 :LolLolLolLol:  :LolLolLolLol:  :LolLolLolLol:

the victor meldrew thread   
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: se bikes on April 09, 2008, 06:44 AM
I think Joey Bradford has been trialling this and is racing it in the Olympics :(
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: Dark Diggler on April 09, 2008, 07:23 AM
FFS, next thing you know people will be eating bread with garlic on it and turning up to meets in.....................motorised vehicles :idiot2:

Whats next, spd pedals and tight jeans  :LolLolLolLol:



Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 09, 2008, 07:29 AM
FFS, next thing you know people will be eating bread with garlic on it and turning up to meets in.....................motorised vehicles :idiot2:

Whats next, spd pedals and tight jeans  :LolLolLolLol:





 :LolLolLolLol:   dont start on the whole spuds thing   :10_2_12:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: Jt on April 09, 2008, 08:00 AM
if its as strong, but a lot lighter and more manouverable then its good in my book...its an olympic sport now boys and girls....this is definately the way forward..look at indoor cycling..space age carbon fibre all the way....

wont be getting one, but i see its point and purpose...nice to look at? i think it is..does it have form and more importantly, function, most defrinately...

would look lush in black carbon with some nice black carbon bombshells.
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 09, 2008, 08:04 AM
if its as strong, but a lot lighter and more manouverable then its good in my book...its an olympic sport now boys and girls....this is definately the way forward..look at indoor cycling..space age carbon fibre all the way....

wont be getting one, but i see its point and purpose...nice to look at? i think it is..does it have form and more importantly, funtion, most defrinately...

would look lush in black carbon with some nice black carbon bombshells.

i kinda of agree with you about the olympics, i suppose if you look at track racing ,pursuit etc, over the years, theres been lots of development , remember chris bordmans lotus  :4_17_5: this kind of thing is the norm now, so yes i suppose now this is a olympic sport, this could be the future, i still dont like it though   ;)
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: dialledbikes on April 09, 2008, 08:32 AM
Innovation for the sake of innovation.  I guess GT consider it good marketing to stand out from the crowd.

But there are lots of better ways to achieve a very light but very strong frame without resorting to something that looks like that.

I've no idea how much that GT thing weighs, but the titanium frames that my team ride (the Technique model) weigh about 3.9lbs.  I think my Ti cruiser frame weighs 4.1lbs.
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 09, 2008, 08:37 AM
Innovation for the sake of innovation.  I guess GT consider it good marketing to stand out from the crowd.

But there are lots of better ways to achieve a very light but very strong frame without resorting to something that looks like that.

I've no idea how much that GT thing weighs, but the titanium frames that my team ride (the Technique model) weigh about 3.9lbs.  I think my Ti cruiser frame weighs 4.1lbs.

and surely more areodynamic  mike  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: Jt on April 09, 2008, 08:41 AM
and the worlds still flat ???

there just playing with form and function, thats all...tis good for the sport that people do.

the slingshot was a wierd design..one that didnt catch on..still looks cool as fook though.

dont see why people are dissing this product ( said in a not too serious tone :))

tis just a very different version of a very old theme....tis a bmx frame when said and done.
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 09, 2008, 08:44 AM
its abit like that specialized thing that a friend in the states sent me pics of, he loves it, i think its ugly, its all a personal thing,this gt is  a young hotshots bike, not a old farts one  :daumenhoch:  but its  another hitech bmx  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: dialledbikes on April 09, 2008, 09:17 AM
From a marketing perspective, I'm not dissing it.  GT has come up with something different to show what it can do and it's got us talking about it, so I guess the marketing bollox has worked.

But from a riding/performance perspective, I doubt it offers any benefit over a "normal" frame of similar weight and strength.

I also suspect it will be a bit of a handful keeping that GT stable over a big set of doubles in a crosswind (and those supercross jumps are big!).
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: sonic-1 on April 09, 2008, 11:43 AM
think it would look the muts it pre peg carbonfiber  with just some subtle graphics  :10_2_12:
its the way forward for those at the sharp end of the sport lookin for that 00.1 of a second gain
its not something i would buy but can see why they would go that way
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: dazza on April 09, 2008, 12:31 PM
wont happen and if it does , they will just change the rules . watch the film flying scottsman.
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: wildwood1971 on April 09, 2008, 12:41 PM
looks the business to me - its just progression, its like F1 cars some say the older ones look better than the current ones - but you can't argue with the performance gains

Heres some more pics of the GT
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/z164/wildwood1971/IMG_6375.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/z164/wildwood1971/IMG_6376.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/z164/wildwood1971/IMG_6374.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/z164/wildwood1971/forgb1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: Jt on April 09, 2008, 12:49 PM
 :shocked:

thats mint in my book.
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: dialledbikes on April 09, 2008, 01:43 PM
Viva VMX (Velodrome Moto-X)
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: wussy67 on April 09, 2008, 01:53 PM
heres stumpy gating on one
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: Longun on April 09, 2008, 01:54 PM
I've ummm and ahhhed but I think I'm coming down on the side of liking it.
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: pickle on April 09, 2008, 02:18 PM
i'm kinda liking that too!  i bet it's as light as a feather! 
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on April 09, 2008, 02:41 PM
 :) I like it it......Are they going to be available in the UK?






 If so,I`ll bet not in 20.5 for us shorties.
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: se bikes on April 09, 2008, 03:09 PM
I'm all for evolution of the sport but it's just plain ugly, we were trying to figure out how you fit the rear wheel this morning (as you do, bit like reading the papers with your coffee n brekkie) and they look to be sealed drop outs ???

Like peeps said b4, cross wind, big jumps aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh, Mike's are better, proper BMX's :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: pickle on April 09, 2008, 03:14 PM
i would've thought it's either a bolt through axle or there are caps that fit over the ends of the drop outs after you've stotted the wheel home??

Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 09, 2008, 03:27 PM
i would've thought it's either a bolt through axle or there are caps that fit over the ends of the drop outs after you've stotted the wheel home??



this frame is like one of those puzzles you get   :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: dialledbikes on April 09, 2008, 03:40 PM
:) I like it it......Are they going to be available in the UK?






 If so,I`ll bet not in 20.5 for us shorties.

Rumour has it Hot Wheels have brought some in.  I think they retail for £850 (don't hold me to that though as I'm not 100% on the price).
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: macky on April 09, 2008, 03:49 PM
it looks chunky and horrible...

reminds me of a childs plastic pedal motorbike! 

I refuse to move with the times... i wanna live in the past!  :yahoo_silent:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 09, 2008, 03:53 PM
it looks chunky and horrible...

reminds me of a childs plastic pedal motorbike! 

I refuse to move with the times... i wanna live in the past!  :yahoo_silent:

 :LolLolLolLol:

:) I like it it......Are they going to be available in the UK?






 If so,I`ll bet not in 20.5 for us shorties.

Rumour has it Hot Wheels have brought some in.  I think they retail for £850 (don't hold me to that though as I'm not 100% on the price).

hotwheels warehouse is near me, ill have to pop in, and see  ;)
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: perry on April 09, 2008, 03:54 PM
"reminds me of a childs plastic pedal motorbike! "

like one of those that doesnt have cranks but a big handle on the back for dad to push it

"its alright , when your older ill buy you a real bike "  ;D
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: magna13 on April 09, 2008, 03:58 PM
im with stidds on this one too! it does look funky

and it also looks the muts nuts built up  :) :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 09, 2008, 04:04 PM
anyone got a good fully built pic ?
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 09, 2008, 04:07 PM
 :LolLolLolLol: here ya go
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m279/zed2000/ub2a.jpg)

http://www.fatbmx.com/modules/news/article.php'storyid=2900
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: magna13 on April 09, 2008, 04:19 PM
how much is this new?  :D :D
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 09, 2008, 04:26 PM
how much is this new?  :D :D

about the same price as a ferrari 355  zak  ;)   :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: magna13 on April 09, 2008, 04:40 PM
how much is this new?  :D :D

about the same price as a ferrari 355  zak  ;)   :LolLolLolLol:
:knuppel2: :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 09, 2008, 04:50 PM
how much is this new?  :D :D

about the same price as a ferrari 355  zak  ;)   :LolLolLolLol:
:knuppel2: :knuppel2:

ok may be abit more expensive   :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: magna13 on April 09, 2008, 04:52 PM
 :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 09, 2008, 04:54 PM
ive no clue of the price, but if as said its around £800 odd, just add the rest of the parts, and you wouldnt fit it with crap ,  ???
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: Longun on April 09, 2008, 04:59 PM
Needs some nice Graphite Tuffs on it.
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 09, 2008, 05:05 PM
Needs some nice Graphite Tuffs on it.

oh steev your so 1980's    :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: magna13 on April 09, 2008, 05:08 PM
Needs some nice Graphite Tuffs on it.
:daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: sonic-1 on April 09, 2008, 06:45 PM
oooooo now yer talkin one made out of prepeg carbon with graphite tuffs  :smitten: oooooo
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: stidds on April 10, 2008, 03:15 PM
Well I am glad there are some people with style on this site.  That bike is all kinds of wicked, I would love one.

It would look absolutely incredible with a set of Answer Scythe Carbon forks on it.

Give the frame to me and I will make it look out of this world.
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 10, 2008, 03:20 PM
Well I am glad there are some people with style on this site.  That bike is all kinds of wicked, I would love one.

It would look absolutely incredible with a set of Answer Scythe Carbon forks on it.

Give the frame to me and I will make it look out of this world.

yep planet gonk   :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: stidds on April 10, 2008, 05:49 PM
Well I am glad there are some people with style on this site.  That bike is all kinds of wicked, I would love one.

It would look absolutely incredible with a set of Answer Scythe Carbon forks on it.

Give the frame to me and I will make it look out of this world.

yep planet gonk   :LolLolLolLol:

 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:

You know me Zed!!!
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: magna13 on April 10, 2008, 06:07 PM
Well I am glad there are some people with style on this site.  That bike is all kinds of wicked, I would love one.

It would look absolutely incredible with a set of Answer Scythe Carbon forks on it.

Give the frame to me and I will make it look out of this world.

buy a f+f set STIDDS! i would  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 10, 2008, 08:17 PM
its starting to grow on me, like one of those big warts on you nans forehead   :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: ron burgundy on April 10, 2008, 09:32 PM
I hope it's better than the prototype...



































(http://www.wildlifebcnp.org/wtphotos/smalls/Ian%20Towle%20-%20slug.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: superbikedan on April 10, 2008, 09:45 PM
if i start powdercoating these in a few years, can't the the passion lasting ;D
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: Dingobmxer on April 10, 2008, 09:51 PM
When Vans first did the downhill bmx series a few years ago all the top boys were suddenly running cro-mo frames and flat pedals, I wonder how long that thing will last on the UCI SX tracks and any race in a side wind (like Bulwell  :LolLolLolLol:)

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: dialledbikes on April 11, 2008, 09:34 AM
Most of the GT team still ride the aluminium Ultrabox frame, which seems odd if this new carbon one is supposedly so good.

You'd think they'd have their factory team on their flagship frame.
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: zed4130 on April 11, 2008, 09:54 AM
same as the vans triple crown down hill bmx course,   :shocked: i noticed back then most the riders opted for cromo frames and forks, ali frames and carbon forks wouldnt of lasted long  :buck2:
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: Zippy on April 11, 2008, 01:16 PM
I think it's as cool as fook.

Progression all the way.
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on April 11, 2008, 01:19 PM



  like the headtube sticker
Title: Re: Is this the future racing bmx ?
Post by: dialledbikes on April 11, 2008, 01:58 PM
Lots of references to progression in this thread, but what has this frame actually progressed other than design/aesthetics?

Specialized, Haro and Mountain Cycle all made monocoques in the 90s.  Supercross and Avent have already dabbled in carbon (who remembers the BMX Plus Supercross carbon test when Neal Wood disappeared over a double at Sheep Hills and reappeared carrying 2 halves of a bike?).  And there are bikes out there already with similar or better strength to weight ratios.

When GT sells a frame that will guarantee me a 40+ win against Jon Moore, that's when I'll acknowledge progression (if that happens, I'll acknowledge bloomin miracles)  ;)
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