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Title: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: gossa on May 06, 2008, 04:14 PM
Right, here's Tim and the first ever MRD prototype made by Birmingham Wheels in 1982.

Tim is thinking about auctioning this off for the Stephen Murray fund, do you think it will fetch more covered in rust or refinished in white with new stickers?
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/dd42/clivegossa/DSC02626.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/dd42/clivegossa/DSC02625.jpg)
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: Bananaman on May 06, 2008, 04:18 PM
I would say refinished, decals and signed.........even more with the forks ???

Without that pic of him holding it, the missing link :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: JT Smooth on May 06, 2008, 04:20 PM
I agree with the nanaman  :)
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: jimmyp on May 06, 2008, 04:22 PM
I agree  ;)
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: zed4130 on May 06, 2008, 04:24 PM
its a survivor, leave it   :daumenhoch: 
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: gossa on May 06, 2008, 04:31 PM
How could a bloke that big ride a frame that small eh? I've asked him to sort some forks out...
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: pickle on May 06, 2008, 04:33 PM
that has to be a mini surely??
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on May 06, 2008, 04:34 PM
 :) Which one was found in a skip,the frame or Tim?
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: zed4130 on May 06, 2008, 04:46 PM
no more tim jokes, i think he looks cool, my missis wont let me have a beard anymore,  :-\  i miss my beard, good on ya tim  :4_17_5: thats a very small frame,
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: Bob_Acid on May 06, 2008, 04:55 PM
I'd say keep it as it is. let the buyer decide
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: RATTY on May 06, 2008, 05:03 PM
Leave it as is, supply a new decal set so the buyer decides.

And out of interest why the bitching at Tim?

When I got back into BMX a few people slated him because of his views on OS bmx.
I met him again at the DC bash last year, he recognised me straight away after 20+ years!!!

When I spoke to him about his views, they was a lot different to the rumours floating about, basically he has the same view as me, that bikes should be ridden.

Behind AR, Tim was a huge influence on the early days of BMX, so show him a bit of respect
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: Flaz on May 06, 2008, 05:07 PM
Leave it as is, supply a new decal set so the buyer decides.

And out of interest why the bitching at Tim?

When I got back into BMX a few people slated him because of his views on OS bmx.
I met him again at the DC bash last year, he recognised me straight away after 20+ years!!!

When I spoke to him about his views, they was a lot different to the rumours floating about, basically he has the same view as me, that bikes should be ridden.

Behind AR, Tim was a huge influence on the early days of BMX, so show him a bit of respect

you tell em tone  GRRRRRR


oh deffo keep it as it is
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: bodamus on May 06, 2008, 05:10 PM
Leave it as it is let the buyer decide wether to paint it or not.

It's a piece of History you paint it, it's just another restored Frame.

bodamus :)
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: gossa on May 06, 2008, 05:11 PM
Ratty, Tim has a very weird sense of humour and loves a wind up, he's a good guy, a lot of his quotes/misquotes are probably said just to get a reaction. He loves seeing all the old sh1t i have and has a lazer sharp memory on OS stuff and th history of it all.
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: Mattdub on May 06, 2008, 05:16 PM
 :LolLolLolLol:

Love the pic ! .................................

I'm leaning towards the "leave as is" but deffo supply new decal set .

BUT .................

Would it raise more money refinished/decalled ? , perhaps the auction winner would'nt be one of the usual suspects/collectors ? .
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on May 06, 2008, 05:16 PM
 :)OK let`s stop knocking Tim.Does he still ever ride a BMX or keep up with the current scene?
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: RATTY on May 06, 2008, 05:17 PM
Ratty, Tim has a very weird sense of humour and loves a wind up, he's a good guy, a lot of his quotes/misquotes are probably said just to get a reaction. He loves seeing all the old sh1t i have and has a lazer sharp memory on OS stuff and th history of it all.
The memory I can vouch for Clive, He recognised me straight away. I just feel that the slating he gets sometimes is out of order.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: RATTY on May 06, 2008, 05:18 PM
:)OK let`s stop knocking Tim.Does he still ever ride a BMX or keep up with the current scene?
I think the riding may be off the cards now as his knees are truly fooked, but im sure he worked for Ride mag until recently
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: Mattdub on May 06, 2008, 05:22 PM
:)OK let`s stop knocking Tim.Does he still ever ride a BMX or keep up with the current scene?
but im sure he worked for Ride mag until recently

He used to do articles/advertising for Dirt ( 4130 publishing ) , same place as Ride perhaps ?? .
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: zed4130 on May 06, 2008, 05:28 PM
I was sure that tim still worked for 4130 publishing ?
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: Mattdub on May 06, 2008, 05:30 PM
I was sure that tim still worked for 4130 publishing ?

Disappeared from Dirt , not sure where to though  ???
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: Flaz on May 06, 2008, 05:34 PM
Ratty, Tim has a very weird sense of humour and loves a wind up, he's a good guy, a lot of his quotes/misquotes are probably said just to get a reaction. He loves seeing all the old sh1t i have and has a lazer sharp memory on OS stuff and th history of it all.
The memory I can vouch for Clive, He recognised me straight away. I just feel that the slating he gets sometimes is out of order.  :daumenhoch:

but he did keep calling you "dave" tho tony didnt he
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: RATTY on May 06, 2008, 05:39 PM
Ratty, Tim has a very weird sense of humour and loves a wind up, he's a good guy, a lot of his quotes/misquotes are probably said just to get a reaction. He loves seeing all the old sh1t i have and has a lazer sharp memory on OS stuff and th history of it all.
The memory I can vouch for Clive, He recognised me straight away. I just feel that the slating he gets sometimes is out of order.  :daumenhoch:

but he did keep calling you "dave" tho tony didnt he
Im sure it was Jon :2funny:
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: stidds on May 06, 2008, 05:43 PM
Leave it as it is deffo.

Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: MartyC on May 06, 2008, 06:31 PM
As a few others have said, leave as is, supply a set of decals and let the winner/buyer decide  :daumenhoch:.
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: Bob_Acid on May 06, 2008, 06:49 PM
(http://www.joylandbooks.com/newsimages/lloydpack.jpg)

Just the facts, Dave, Just the facts.
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: CD17 on May 06, 2008, 06:56 PM
I would restore it, it looks like its been left in the garden for twenty years.

Some should be left as survivors, but this is not one of them.
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: darkersomeday on May 06, 2008, 07:30 PM
separated at birth....

tim march
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/DSC02626.jpg)

V's

mike leigh
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/images.jpg)

quite a gesture offering his first frame up like,

we love you tim :smitten:
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: adam01 on May 06, 2008, 08:41 PM
hi Tim

Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: Flaz on May 06, 2008, 09:24 PM
Ratty, Tim has a very weird sense of humour and loves a wind up, he's a good guy, a lot of his quotes/misquotes are probably said just to get a reaction. He loves seeing all the old sh1t i have and has a lazer sharp memory on OS stuff and th history of it all.
The memory I can vouch for Clive, He recognised me straight away. I just feel that the slating he gets sometimes is out of order.  :daumenhoch:

but he did keep calling you "dave" tho tony didnt he
Im sure it was Jon :2funny:

theres a funny story about tim and his memory and how good it is from that night in london  but only me and billy stupple know about it   :LolLolLolLol: 
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: se bikes on May 06, 2008, 09:54 PM
IMO leave it be, every ding and dent is a little bit of history that'll be wiped away with a full on resto, if you want a minty one buy NOS, if you want history get out some hard earned cashola and bid for the above  :daumenhoch:

Good on Tim for helping out a BMX bro with this kind gesture too  :4_17_5: :4_17_5:
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: Flatcap on May 06, 2008, 10:16 PM
Quote
Behind AR, Tim was a huge influence on the early days of BMX, so show him a bit of respect

Here here, even as a Freestyler who never ever raced I knew who Tim was and what he stood for - top bloke!!!

Daz.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: RATTY on May 06, 2008, 10:53 PM
Daz, dont forget Tims jumping was awesome as well, I think there was a skatepark in Poole? he was getting 10 foot plus airs to flat out of the bowl
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: Bananaman on May 06, 2008, 11:15 PM
:LolLolLolLol:

Love the pic ! .................................

I'm leaning towards the "leave as is" but deffo supply new decal set .

BUT .................

Would it raise more money refinished/decalled ? , perhaps the auction winner would'nt be one of the usual suspects/collectors ? .

Thats my point Matt, the question was asked would it fetch more painted and decalled and I recon it would....I die hard collector would want it as is but I think it would fetch more with forks, painted, decalled and some sort of signiture or note on the top tube to anyone, widen the sales net ;)

Its to raise money and it would say more that way!??

could be wrong though, as usual the evil place would decide!!!
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: Mattdub on May 06, 2008, 11:36 PM
:LolLolLolLol:

Love the pic ! .................................

I'm leaning towards the "leave as is" but deffo supply new decal set .

BUT .................

Would it raise more money refinished/decalled ? , perhaps the auction winner would'nt be one of the usual suspects/collectors ? .

Thats my point Matt, the question was asked would it fetch more painted and decalled and I recon it would....I die hard collector would want it as is but I think it would fetch more with forks, painted, decalled and some sort of signiture or note on the top tube to anyone, widen the sales net ;)

Its to raise money and it would say more that way!??

could be wrong though, as usual the evil place would decide!!!

 ;)

I have the ideal solution ?? .

The winner of the auction has the following choices:

1. To receive frame as is with seperate new decals .

OR

2. It can be finished to winners spec. ie re-powdered white for instance & decalled ( and signed by Tim ) .

Best of both worlds & guaranteed the best cashola bid , fingers crossed from someone with mucho deep pockets  ;) .
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: zed4130 on May 07, 2008, 08:22 AM
Daz, dont forget Tims jumping was awesome as well, I think there was a skatepark in Poole? he was getting 10 foot plus airs to flat out of the bowl

think it was at slades farm tone, its the only one in poole, with a concrete bowl  :daumenhoch:  and what a guy, for doing this for stephen, i watched stephen on the exteme sport channel, the other day, talk about a guy determind to walk again, as he said he is doing it for his kids   :4_17_5: good on you tim,   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: gossa on May 07, 2008, 09:46 AM
OK, I like Mattdubs option, any views on it's value?  Any diehard MRD fans on here that should be offered first refusal?
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: dialledbikes on May 07, 2008, 12:31 PM
My first ever BMX memory is a picture of Tim on the cover of OBMX (I think it was issue No.2) doing a huge one handed table at Slade's Farm.  From that moment, I was hooked.

Very nice of Tim to auction that frame for Stephen Murray.  I'm with the leave as is crowd.  If the winner wants to get it restored and signed by Tim, they can always do that after winning it.
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: Stodgy on May 07, 2008, 01:14 PM
I'd go with Matdubs suggestion - seems like the way to go. Buyer gets the option. Sweet.

Oh, and here is me with Tim in 1984...man he's big! The frame looks very similar:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/bournemouthmay84tim72.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b292/stodgy1/bmouth84_3.jpg)



BTW Tim was working at Ride as Ad sales manager, but recently left.

Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: adam01 on May 07, 2008, 02:21 PM
great to see Tim on the bmx side still to this day excellent
 :daumenhoch:
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Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: sawzall on May 07, 2008, 05:45 PM
when does the auction start,i would love this to go with my other mrds ;)
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: zed4130 on May 07, 2008, 05:57 PM
stodgy is that at iford track,   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: TIM MARCH AND THE MRD PROTOTYPE
Post by: Flatcap on May 07, 2008, 07:33 PM
Daz, dont forget Tims jumping was awesome as well, I think there was a skatepark in Poole? he was getting 10 foot plus airs to flat out of the bowl

Yep......good point mate.

Always had a lot of respect for him and his name is up there with the big boys for their impact on the UK BMX scene. 10 foot jumps to flat is misters stuff too, that's why my wrists fooking hurt so much now after I've been riding  ;D
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