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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: potstu on May 23, 2008, 11:09 PM
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...but what the F@@k is this pile of poo?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200226379127&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010
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:wtf:
I hope somebody doesn't get stung with that POS :-\ :'(
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:wtf: as been done to it . absolutely destroyed
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I sent him a mail earlier saying it was snide and this was his response :
The Bike is definately the geniune article, bought it myself in the mid 80s from the USA.
The C in the serial number stands for custom, because I ordered a special one with seat strengthening plate.
If you want to check ask Haro and get back to me.
I don't sell fakes!
Then again screw it, don't check and miss out on probably one of the rarest haros on ebay.
This was custom built by haro in the mid 80s.
Seat strengthener is a common mod for pro bmx, unless you've forgotton what really happened in the 80s?!?!
Check it yourself!
From Mark
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Weird. It's like a Haro crossed with a Firebird.
Anyone ID the "Serial Number"? And where's the coater bracket? Very curious.
Strangely enough, I plated up my '87 Master at the seatpost as that's EXACTLY where the damn things used to break first....
This one could run and run....
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??? jurys out on this one. i'm no haro expert. i would say good repair bitd ?
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whats that smell................... i know..... it's Bullshit!! ::)
I dont believe it for a second!! :yahoo_silent:
I hope someone on here can do something with that serial No.
Looks more like a Dp!! :-\
Must be loads of Haro experts on Rad!! :daumenhoch:
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He went to all that trouble to buy that custom frame and stuck a load of crap parts on it ::)
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Unless its some kind of prototype, which is unlikely i would have thought. Its got the wrong shaped rear dropouts, serial on the outside, why would tehy decide to put it on the outside of the left dropout instead of the inside of the right rear?? No way in my book, has a few similarities but there were a few haro snides that looked better than that, orion made one so did a US department store.....although, who can be sure :LolLolLolLol:
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Liar.
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This is a weird one.... :-\
It has many Gen 1 similarities, machined head tube, the down tube gusset looks right, the serial number could be a Torker serial number. The rear drop outs are similar but they're not totally flat on the bottom. I suppose if it's custom he would be given a choice whether he wanted a coaster bracket on or not and bitd I never used one so if it had been me I would have said no too. The forks aren't in view but looking at the thickness at the top they're definitely not typical Haro forks that they used for the majority of Gen 1's, Masters and Sports.
If I'm honest I'm not 100% sure but I would be tempted to check his story out purely because of the serial number.
It all come out int wash....as they say in Yorkshire!
Daz. :daumenhoch:
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i have one of these exact frames.
as people have mentioned it appears to look like a gen 1 if you take a quick glance but has features from the dp firebird. the quality of the welds are very good as well i think some one mentioned before when i needed a frame id was that it was a manufacture from europe that had produced these back in the day.
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the only thing that will come out in the wash is the bullshit that just fell out of this blokes mouth and spilt on his shirt.
as bob says, why would anybody order a custom built frame and fork set, then, (no disrespect to the burner boys) kit it out with raleigh burner parts.
Dave
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i have one of these exact frames.
Take some pics of your one and send them to the guy.
Better still, put yours up on ebay as a "FAKE HARO" and include a link to that guys sale >:D
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I have also emailed this geezer and will expect a similar reply. Told him that its a fake and a poor one at that! We'll see.... fooking hate twats like this :tickedoff: :knuppel2:
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as bob says, why would anybody order a custom built frame and fork set, then, (no disrespect to the burner boys) kit it out with raleigh burner parts.
Dave.....not everybody had rich Mummies and Daddies to buy us all Flight Cranks etc. Not a dig at you mate but my parents weren't exactly loaded when I was a kid so my bike didn't always have the best parts on it. Then when I started doing milk/paper rounds and all that sh1t I could afford to buy better stuff.
Daz. :daumenhoch:
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as bob says, why would anybody order a custom built frame and fork set, then, (no disrespect to the burner boys) kit it out with raleigh burner parts.
Dave.....not everybody had rich Mummies and Daddies to buy us all Flight Cranks etc. Not a dig at you mate but my parents weren't exactly loaded when I was a kid so my bike didn't always have the best parts on it. Then when I started doing milk/paper rounds and all that sh1t I could afford to buy better stuff.
But like Dave was saying .... I bet you didnt get a CUSTOM made Haro with your paper round money
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the 1st half of it looks haro but the rear end looks dp. what could this be??? ??? ??? ???
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I'm far from a Haro expert & i have never actually owned one, but that bike just doesn't seem right to me...the welds don't look very good? the headset & crank look cheap & nasty like the sort of thing you would get on a copy of one of the big manufacturers bikes (i've had few of them) and the parts are all rubbish...Bitd if you were to save up all your pennies or hassle the hell out of your parents to import you a custom gen 1 freestyler, after all the saving or badgering of your folks would you really fit it with the cheapest crap parts you could find knowing that you have one of the best frame & fork sets in the country?
Its like buying a ferrari chassis & bodykit & fitting it with parts from a robin reliant :idiot2:
Theres my ten pence worth :LolLolLolLol:
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:LolLolLolLol:
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To be honest. we used to do exactly the opposite of this. we'd get a cheap bike when we started, slowly replace the crap parts with good ones, then, once we'd saved up the dosh, get a good frame to go with the good parts.....
The euro copy theory is a good one. And Gen ones were made in '82 and '83, so if it's a mid eighties custom order, I doubt it would be like this, it would look more like a MASTER..
Yep, this one IS gonna run and run!
With real ones going for a grand, is it any wonder there's gonna be a fake market cropping up too?!
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...but what the F@@k is this pile of poo?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200226379127&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010
i have just bid on it , it looks a bit strange damn what have i done
AD :uglystupid2:
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as bob says, why would anybody order a custom built frame and fork set, then, (no disrespect to the burner boys) kit it out with raleigh burner parts.
Dave.....not everybody had rich Mummies and Daddies to buy us all Flight Cranks etc. Not a dig at you mate but my parents weren't exactly loaded when I was a kid so my bike didn't always have the best parts on it. Then when I started doing milk/paper rounds and all that sh1t I could afford to buy better stuff.
Daz. :daumenhoch:
Couldn't agree more, although my parents were far from poor i had to (post Night Burner, which they bought) buy all my bmx stuff from money i earned from my pt time job i started at 14, and when i very first got my 85 Haro Sport f&f i had sod all money for good quality parts and most of them came from my Firebird which in turn had come from my Night Burner, it took quite a while before i built the Haro up to an acceptable standard, and even then the parts were only mid-range quality and a lot of the snot nosed mummies boys at the Inverness competitions used to snigger at the dodgy parts on the sweet Haro frame :Aresehole: s
Andrew :daumenhoch:
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Ad retract your bid fast dude!
...but what the F@@k is this pile of poo?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200226379127&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010
i have just bid on it , it looks a bit strange damn what have i done
AD :uglystupid2:
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:wtf: (Serial number in this picture) T601C061
can the HARO Gang help on this one as i have placed a bid
AD
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Ad, here are a load of Haro Gen 1 serial numbers from this site in the Torker built section. Looking at the below, me thinks its a snide and a bad one at that!
Quanity Serial Build Number Model Month Year
1 TXX 154 F 154 Freestyler Gen 1 November 1982
2 TXX 450 F 450 Freestyler Gen 1 November 1982
3 TXX 483 F 483 Freestyler Gen 1 November 1982
1 TUU 821 F 821 Freestyler Gen 2 February 1983
2 TTT 1029 F 1029 Freestyler Gen 2 March 1983
3 TTT 1041 F 1041 Freestyler Gen 2 March 1983
4 TSS 1105 F 1105 Freestyler Gen 2 April 1983
5 TSS 1118 F 1118 Freestyler Gen 2 April 1983
6 TSS 1138 F 1138 Freestyler Gen 2 April 1983
7 TSS 1141 F 1141 Freestyler Gen 2 April 1983
8 TSS 1163 F 1163 Freestyler Gen 2 April 1983
9 TSS 1171 F 1171 Freestyler Gen 2 April 1983
10 TSS 1235 F 1235 Freestyler Gen 2 April 1983
11 TRR 1352 F 1352 Freestyler Gen 2 May 1983
12 TRR 1354 F 1354 Freestyler Gen 2 May 1983
13 TRR 1399 F 1399 Freestyler Gen 2 May 1983
14 TQQ 1462 F 1462 Freestyler Gen 2 June 1983
15 TQQ 1515 F 1515 Freestyler Gen 2 June 1983
16 TQQ 1674 F 1674 Freestyler Gen 2 June 1983
17 TQQ 1713 F 1713 Freestyler Gen 2 June 1983
18 TPP 1727 F 1727 Freestyler Gen 2 July 1983
19 TPP 1748 F 1748 Freestyler Gen 2 July 1983
20 TPP 1749 F 1749 Freestyler Gen 2 July 1983
21 TPP 1808 F 1808 Freestyler Gen 2 July 1983
22 TPP 1828 F 1828 Freestyler Gen 2 July 1983
23 TPP 1829 F 1829 Freestyler Gen 2 July 1983
24 TPP 1872 F 1872 Freestyler Gen 2 July 1983
25 TPP 1887 F 1887 Freestyler Gen 2 July 1983
26 TOO 1973 F 1973 Freestyler Gen 2 August 1983
27 TOO 1990 F 1990 Freestyler Gen 2 August 1983
28 TOO 2009 F 2009 Freestyler Gen 2 August 1983
29 TOO 2033 F 2033 Freestyler Gen 2 August 1983
30 TOO 2090 F 2090 Freestyler Gen 2 August 1983
31 TOO 2130 F 2130 Freestyler Gen 2 August 1983
32 TNN 2184 F 2184 Freestyler Gen 2 September 1983
33 TNN 2258 F 2258 Freestyler Gen 2 September 1983
34 TNN 2283 F 2283 Freestyler Gen 2 September 1983
35 TNN 2329 F 2329 Freestyler Gen 2 September 1983
36 TNN 2347 F 2347 Freestyler Gen 2 September 1983
37 TNN 2353 F 2353 Freestyler Gen 2 September 1983
38 TSS 2357 F 2357 Freestyler Gen 2 1983
39 TNN 2366 F 2366 Freestyler Gen 2 September 1983
40 TMM 2484 F 2484 Freestyler Gen 2 October 1983
41 TMM 2527 F 2527 Freestyler Gen 2 October 1983
42 TMM 2684 F 2684 Freestyler Gen 2 October 1983
43 TLL 2653 F 2653 Freestyler Gen 2 November 1983
44 TLL 2738 F 2738 Freestyler Gen 2 November 1983
45 TKK 3007 F 3007 Freestyler Gen 2 December 1983
46 TKK 3050 F 3050 Freestyler Gen 2 December 1983
47 TKK 3124 F 3124 Freestyler Gen 2 December 1983
48 TKK 3148 F 3148 Freestyler Gen 2 December 1983
49 TKK 3216 F 3216 Freestyler Gen 2 December 1983
50 TKK 3339 F 3339 Freestyler Gen 2 December 1983
51 TKK 3363 F 3363 Freestyler Gen 2 December 1983
52 TJJ 3483 F 3483 Freestyler Gen 2 January 1984
53 TJJ 3551 F 3551 Freestyler Gen 2 January 1984
54 TII 3729 F 3729 Freestyler Gen 2 February 1984
55 TII 3882 F 3882 Freestyler Gen 2 February 1984
1 THH 3924 F 3924 Master Gen 1 March 1984
2 THH 3937 F 3937 Master Gen 1 March 1984
3 THH 3978 F 3978 Master Gen 1 March 1984
4 THH 3982 F 3982 Master Gen 1 March 1984
5 TGG 1440 F 1440 Master Gen 1 April 1984
6 TFF 4309 F 4309 Master Gen 1 May 1984
7 TEE 4497 F 4497 Master Gen 1 June 1984
8 TDD 4599 F 4599 Master Gen 1 July 1984
9 TDD 4649 F 4649 Master Gen 1 July 1984
1 T 07844754 M 4754 Master Gen 2 July 1984
2 T 08844880 M 4880 Master Gen 2 August 1984
3 T 08844940 M 4940 Master Gen 2 August 1984
4 T 08844949 M 4949 Master Gen 2 August 1984
5 T 0884498? M 498? Master Gen 2 August 1984
6 T 08845069 M 5069 Master Gen 2 August 1984
7 T 08845160 M 5160 Master Gen 2 August 1984
8 T 08845168 M 5168 Master Gen 2 August 1984
9 T 09845565 M 5565 Master Gen 2 September 1984
10 T 09845607 M 5607 Master Gen 2 September 1984
11 T 10845840 M 5840 Master Gen 2 October 1984
12 T 10845931 M 5931 Master Gen 2 October 1984
13 T 10846004 M 6004 Master Gen 2 October 1984
1 TEE 0083 HS 83 Sport Gen 1 June 1984
2 TDD 0196 HS 196 Sport Gen 1 July 1984
1 T 08840441 S 441 Sport Gen 2 August 1984
2 T 08840459 S 459 Sport Gen 2 August 1984
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excellent info Swivel
appreciated
here we go Bid Retractions: :( immediately. :)
i have now removed my bid . hope no one else bids on it
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Adam
When you retract your bid make sure you give 'fake item' as the reason for retraction
Why not report it to ebay while your at it
I've also emailed this joker this morning telling him the bike is not a haro and he should at least amend the ad to state its a replica (piss poor one at that) ive not had a reply yet... it'll piss me right off if i get all that 'one off custom built' bollocks.... >:(
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It's not been mentioned yet that from the later part of 84 Master's Haro manufacturing would have been taking place in Taiwan. So how could he have had a custom one made in US mid 80's on a frame they no longer made and at what facilities? And if there was any truth about it being custom made and particularly rare you would have made a song and dance about it in the original listing to squeeze every penny out of it.
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The fake one in going for more than the original : )
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Adam
When you retract your bid make sure you give 'fake item' as the reason for retraction
Why not report it to ebay while your at it
I've also emailed this joker this morning telling him the bike is not a haro and he should at least amend the ad to state its a replica (piss poor one at that) ive not had a reply yet... it'll piss me right off if i get all that 'one off custom built' bollocks.... >:(
Bettyswallocks
how do you do that as there is only 3 options
Entered wrong amount
Seller changed item description
Cannot contact the seller
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:) The current owner is probably well aware that it is a copy.Probably heard the words"old school" and "maybe valuable"and saw a multitude of £signs.Prick.
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looks like normal haro quality to me ::)
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I'm so glad there are guys like you around, i'm not really that familier with early old school bikes and to be honest i can't say i ever paid that much attention to every detail of the bikes i owned, i'm not really big into the tech stuff at all, so i personally could have been easily fooled by this listing, and when i first saw this thread i was going to post asking what it was about the bike that screamed fake...but before i got around to it all you fine fellas answered it for me :daumenhoch:
Andrew :daumenhoch:
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Adam
When you retract your bid make sure you give 'fake item' as the reason for retraction
Why not report it to ebay while your at it
I've also emailed this joker this morning telling him the bike is not a haro and he should at least amend the ad to state its a replica (piss poor one at that) ive not had a reply yet... it'll piss me right off if i get all that 'one off custom built' bollocks.... >:(
Bettyswallocks
how do you do that as there is only 3 options
Entered wrong amount
Seller changed item description
Cannot contact the seller
Sorry Adam i didnt realise the retraction thing had changed, it used to be like leaving feedback, you could put whatever reason you liked.
I still havent heard owt from the seller.... ::)
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I've emailed the guy twice now and heard nothing, no surprises there... guy is an :Aresehole:
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So has anyone found anything with the serial No. to this frame.......??
the seller seemed very upset that he may have been ripped off and insists it came from a genuine Haro dealer...
he'd like proof its a fake....... ???
awww...... bless!! ::)
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looks like a torker to me ? if with dave if your gonna ave it custom made to your spec then you must have to dosh to trick it out
the geeeza is a bell end ,, ive emailed him no reply twat !!!!!
get that bid retracted or just email him and say retract it fella coz i aint gonna give you £4 let alone £400 you fooKing mug!!!!!!
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Its a faro bidrstyler,cut and shut, front end haro rear end firebird :2funny:
Definately not a haro. Too many qusetions regarding where the serial is, what the serial is, shape of rear dropouts, that fooking great seat stay gusset, when and where it was made, perhaps Bob made it in his garag
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Problem #1 Seat Post Gusset - looks like a Firebird
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/eBay/ebay100_1294.jpg)
Problem #2 Front end DOES look like a Gen 1...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/eBay/ebay100_1296.jpg)
Problem #3 Twin Tube gusset TOO high - on top! - to be a HARO...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/eBay/ebay100_1297.jpg)
Problem #4 Rear Drop outs wrong shape, serial# in wrong place - no coaster bracket...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/eBay/ebay100_1300.jpg)
Problem #5 Since when did Haro put their fork stickers half way up the forks...?
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/eBay/ebay100_1302.jpg)
Problem #6 Can't be cut and shut with a Firebird - DP chain stays swept up from BB. Also didn't Gen 1's have machined BB's?
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/eBay/ebay100_1308.jpg)
Hope this helps! I hate liars....
G
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A real one for comparison....
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m48/markw33/SSA51496.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m48/markw33/SSA51495.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m48/markw33/SSA51667.jpg)
Not hard to spot the differance.... :crazy2:
I've still not heard owt from the seller.... ::)
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Very nice mate :smitten: :smitten:, gotta get my Gen 1 re-chromed soon, can't stand it being on its own in the loft :daumenhoch:
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I got a reply off him saying it is a real Haro & why would I lie ::)
twat :(
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Very nice mate :smitten: :smitten:, gotta get my Gen 1 re-chromed soon, can't stand it being on its own in the loft :daumenhoch:
Cheers, its my pride n joy.... :smitten:
Ive also had a reply from the seller all he said was
'Feel free to come and have a look'
What a dick.... ::)
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He did reply to me, told me he paid $900 for this in 1983... from a genuine Haro dealer in the U.S. !!
Quite upset when i told it wasnt a genuine Haro... wants proof its a copy/ fake.. ???
Even invited me to go check it out & try it for myself........
Anyone live close to Surrey.... ::)
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I'm tryin' to keep an open mind, but it just seems so unlikely.... :-\
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Here is his reply to me.... :wtf:
I bought this from the USA in the mid 80s and was told the seat post plate was a custom option hence the c in the serial number?
Why would they lie?
Also the finish is high standard and all the parts seem to be very high quality.
The welds are A1 quality and has handled many jumps, tricks with no damage to anything, even the wheels are still 99% true!
Has the original parts that are all execatly the same as you would exepct on any other standard haro.(e.g. mx900 brakes in adonised blue, etc...)
Am certain it is geniune.
Come here and ride it yourself!
I personally guarantee once you see it you'll know it's the real deal!
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looks a bit like this Orion on bmxmuseum..
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/orion/10157
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thats is the closest model to that frame...
other than the Dp style top tube plate... thats an exact copy!!
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looks a bit like this Orion on bmxmuseum..
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/orion/10157
I almost cried "We have a winnahhhh!", then I noticed that the headtube isn't right and it doesn't have the seatpost plate. Damn.
Dropouts and twintube plate look spot on though....
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/eBay/orion02.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/eBay/orion01.jpg)
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How many different frame models did Orion bring out??
could this be another model of Orion?? :-\
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Does anyone have an orion f+f... i wouldnt mind doing a Gen 1 rep!
if anyone was going to buy this fake/copy on eBay, how much would you pay for it? for me Max. £150
Zak
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/eBay/orion02.jpg)
That's my old bike from BITD i had it made at the Torker secret laboratories ::)
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::) ::)
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Fook me that does look like a gen 1 though... :shocked: that's deffo an orion with a dodgy plate welded on I reckon...
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Fook me that does look like a gen 1 though... :shocked: that's deffo an orion with a dodgy plate welded on I reckon...
:daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
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Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!! ;D ;D ;D What a joker!
I'm sorry to say this Adam;but how on earth could anyone confuse that with a real Haro?
As for your bid.....just get access to another P.C.[internet cafe etc] and stick a sodding high bid on it,
fook him right up with half a million quid bid.[its only E bay]
good luck mate, and I hope you get rid of the bid
...................Skids
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/eBay/orion02.jpg)
That's my old bike from BITD i had it made at the Torker secret laboratories ::)
:LolLolLolLol: I actually know the guy who has this now, in Aussie
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B.T.W I had a DP back in the early eighties, and the seat gusset did NOT look like that....its too extended at the front
..............Skids
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Im actually really curious now to what this bike really is..... ???
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who the hell was bidder 3? 5 million! :LolLolLolLol:
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I've sent him a couple message and pointed out to him why it ISN'T a Gen 1 and to be fair his reply was very polite. As there is bids on it he now states in his listing that a full refund will be given and the winning bidder isn't obliged to buy it etc. etc. Doesn't look like it's gonna get pulled but I get the feeling this guy has been ripped off himself when he bought it originally. Fooking ebay make me sick, if it was a dodgy Rolex they'd shut his account down and report him to customs but it's only a kids bike isn't it so they won't take it seriously.
Sh1t bags!
Daz. :daumenhoch:
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I think it may seem like this dude was ripped off himself in the first place....... :-\
he has added he is willing to give a full refund to the poor sod who wins this POS..... ::)
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Due to the comments and questions I have had so far, the best I can do, due to the fact that the item already has bids, is to offer full refund and right to refusal policy.
Also if you bid and win, then decide when you see it / try it / check it - that you do not want it , yet again you are not obliged to buy, if you you are not happy.
Many people believe this bike to be different to the original, but was bought in good faith and all the parts seem to match the original, please judge for yourself, as I am no expert on these particular type of bike
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Still listed as a Haro FreeStyler BMX Generation 1 ORIGINAL 80's + Brakes
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:wtf: what could this POS be!!!!
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Someone has won this POS!!
chevailnoirg3cx
in for a bit of disapointment when he recieve's this!! :-\
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:wtf: someone bought it your kidding poor fella :uglystupid2:
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:wtf: someone bought it your kidding poor fella :uglystupid2:
Gutted! :LolLolLolLol:
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A Big Sorry to all- The bike is mine-Always has been. It was bought for me in Hong Kong in about 86/87 when we lived there.
I did not know its a fake-Hence the ebay sale. I had a friend put it up for sale for me as I am not set up on ebay and really thought I was selling the real deal. Now I have been told differently I am GUTTED.
I purchased the bike new from a shop in Hong Kong-chose it from the display and it came as you see it now-with all the decals and was sold to me as a HARO. I have not tried to mislead or rip anyone off.
Can anyone tell me what my bike is???
Is there anywhere I can take it in the UK who can give me a professional opinion of what the bike may be-I would be happy to post more pictures if it would help someone ID it for me.
I have owned this bike for the last 22 years so it is from the 80's
It has someones serial number on it so someone was proud of what they made
Someone posted that Haro were being built in Taiwan - Could this bike be a Haro built in Taiwan for the Asian market???
Thanks
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Well done Chris....nice of you to come on here and explain the truth.
However, it would also have been nice if your mate who was selling it for you explained this too. But that aint your fault, it was his choice.
As for what it is??
No idea mate, we've all pretty much been baffled by this one. Good luck in finding out though.
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A Big Sorry to all- The bike is mine-Always has been. It was bought for me in Hong Kong in about 86/87 when we lived there.
I did not know its a fake-Hence the ebay sale. I had a friend put it up for sale for me as I am not set up on ebay and really thought I was selling the real deal. Now I have been told differently I am GUTTED.
I purchased the bike new from a shop in Hong Kong-chose it from the display and it came as you see it now-with all the decals and was sold to me as a HARO. I have not tried to mislead or rip anyone off.
Can anyone tell me what my bike is???
Is there anywhere I can take it in the UK who can give me a professional opinion of what the bike may be-I would be happy to post more pictures if it would help someone ID it for me.
I have owned this bike for the last 22 years so it is from the 80's
It has someones serial number on it so someone was proud of what they made
Someone posted that Haro were being built in Taiwan - Could this bike be a Haro built in Taiwan for the Asian market???
Thanks
Sorry Chris.....but you mean to tell me that your 'mate' didn't pass on all the emails that people bombarded him with telling him that it wasn't a Haro?? all the emails back stated that 'I'd' bought it in good faith......nothing about 'i'm selling it for a mate who bought it in good faith'
Just sounds like you're trying to back pedal to me ???
also it's appt that you've suddenly found this site and come on here after you sold it??
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So is this frame now from Hong Kong? your mate said it was a custom built frame from the U.S. ???
I think the Orion frame Potstu posted is pretty close to your frame......
other than the seat post plate... this looks identical....
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb31/mackymc/orion01-1.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb31/mackymc/orion02-1.jpg)
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Pickle-I have never posted on a forum before and did not know you guys were out here-Someone sent Mark a link to this forum-he told me about the problems he faced whilst advertizing the bike, hence why i wanted to investigate further- I have not tried to deceive anyone-You must admit yourself that if you owned a bike (yes I still own it) from new and were sold it as a Haro from a proper bike shop you would expect it to be a Haro!!! You live and learn!!!
I have posted on this forum giving a genuine apology even though my bike which I have kept for 20 odd years has been described as a POS and has a forum title of 'A bad Haro copy' - you are far from happy!!!!!
I am being straight with you-
I agree completely - I have seen the picture and the real bike looks beautiful - my bike is NOT a Haro Freestyler Generation 1 - Now you cannot ask anymore than that so hopefully we can relaunch this topic as what is this bike
If my friend Mark has been strong in his responses to you when you suggested it was a fake its only because he-like me thought it was the genuine article and if we were trying to rip someone off why offer a refund to bidders and post on this forum?
On the subject of what my bike is-You are right that it looks a bit DP, a bit Orion and a bit Haro- What does that make my bike though???
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You may have some weird, one of a kind early eighties frame.
Definetly styled to look like a Haro, but I think you've got everyone stumped here mate!
Hopefully someone will be able to suss it out....
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this also has gotta go to some other page i dont read !!!!!!
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Firstly, Chris i respect the fact you've come on here and apologised about your mate and this bike!! :daumenhoch:
Secondly, the way i see it... we all know this bikes's not a Haro, obviously, but to what this bike could actually be...
this could be a proper one off Freestyle frame... if no one on RAD know's wot it is ( and there are a lot of experts on ere!! )
then surely... does that not make your Frame a RARE frame?? ???
And thirdly... well, i dont actually have a thirdly... but all i can say is good luck on finding out wot this bike actually is...
it's got me baffled... and i do apologise for posting in this thread that you were ripping ppl off with a fake!!! :-[ Sorry dude!!
Good luck with this dude!!
and, i might actually know a guy who may know wot this might be... he's the Jesus of Bmx... Mike Organ!!!
he's the guy who ran our old bmx club in the 80's... knew everything that could be known about Bmx!!!! Seriously!!!
Wasn't called Mike the Bike for nothing.... we still see him now & again... i reckon he'd know wot this is!!! :daumenhoch:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/bb31/mackymc/m_562555dac8ff6468025379f2c766a8cb.jpg)
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this also has gotta go to some other page i dont read !!!!!!
Bmx Chat perhaps?
Along with the Haro headtube sticker thread.
Then you might not be so grumpy all the time, mmmm?
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I sent him a mail earlier saying it was snide and this was his response :
The Bike is definately the geniune article, bought it myself in the mid 80s from the USA.
The C in the serial number stands for custom, because I ordered a special one with seat strengthening plate.
If you want to check ask Haro and get back to me.
I don't sell fakes!
Then again screw it, don't check and miss out on probably one of the rarest haros on ebay.
This was custom built by haro in the mid 80s.
Seat strengthener is a common mod for pro bmx, unless you've forgotton what really happened in the 80s?!?!
Check it yourself!
From Mark
Well done for coming on and explaining but this reply from your mate dug a very big hole for you and made someone look not too bright with all the fairy tales and bull shit. Just plain and simple dishonesty praying on someone being naive enough to believe it. Greedy and unforgivable behaviour.
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Did it actually sell?
Or did the winner not want it as the listing stated there was no obligation to buy.
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I wish I could say that bidder number 3 was Bill Gates and instead of a cash deal, he just swapped me his big fat dirty Sunseeker yacht for my custom made unique god knows what bike-but I can't.
The bike is still down with my mate Mark and I still own it. We could not pull the auction because there was a bidder on it so the most we could do is put up a disclaimer. My interest in what my bike is, is not so I can throw it back on ebay but to know what I have kept for all this time.
In my opinion, fair play to Mark because he was doing me a favour by selling the bike for me and it was me who said - This is A Haro Freestyler - as a mate he believed me and stood by his decission even though he was told differently. In my and Mark's opinion,the bike is lovely - Its not as if we did not recieve bids is it.
If you don't mind I want to Thank those who did bid-I hope you get the bike you want
And yes- I am going to pick my bike up, take some more pictures of it and see if by posting them on here and anywere else you can recommend, find out where my bike came from. So Please if you know of someone who would be happy to go on Mastermind and have their topic of knowledge as BMX bikes of the eighties, then show him a picture of my bike-
If the bikes not a Haro, then it would be great to peel off the haro decals and stripe it up as it was meant to be!!!!
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We could not pull the auction because there was a bidder on it so the most we could do is put up a disclaimer.
I'm pretty sure you can pull any auction regardless of how many bids the item has received, aslong as its 12 hours before the auction ends? ::)
Sorry just had to mention it :LolLolLolLol:
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this also has gotta go to some other page i dont read !!!!!!
pat, i reckon youre in the wrong section mate....this is primarily an old school site....hence, why most of the stuff in here is old school, if its new school freestyle stuff youre after, check tthe new school section. :police:
and youve just really made me make myself sound like a penis......cheers... :LolLolLolLol:
Dave
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although...thinking about this one...it should be in bmx chat i think.....
Dave
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You may never find out what this is... in about '83 or '84 I bought a snide Redline 500a from Hong Kong when I was over there on Holiday, the frame/forks were almost identical to a mate's redline back here, I had loads of people fooled to what it was but the only difference was the welds and the serial number was wrong and in the wrong place. Needless to say I managed to snap the frame after a couple of months but it was cheap as chips and there were loads of other nice "copies" in the shop at that time, just mass produced POS made to look like something else.
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I'm pretty sure you can pull any auction regardless of how many bids the item has received, aslong as its 12 hours before the auction ends? ::)
Sorry just had to mention it :LolLolLolLol:
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Sorry mate-I know as much about selling on ebay as I do about BMX bikes!!!!
Not doing too well am I !!!
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I'm pretty sure you can pull any auction regardless of how many bids the item has received, aslong as its 12 hours before the auction ends? ::)
Sorry just had to mention it :LolLolLolLol:
Sorry mate-I know as much about selling on ebay as I do about BMX bikes!!!!
Not doing too well am I !!!
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Well, this a Great place to learn!! :daumenhoch: