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New School BMX 2004 - Now => New School Park, Street & Dirt => Topic started by: bmxer4ever on July 02, 2008, 10:08 PM
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I'm lookin' at the low profile dia compes and the Flys.
Why are the Fly brakes so expensive and are they worth the extra money?
Thanks,
G
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Fly do work so so well, but Ive managed to get most U brakes to work well.
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the new oddy evovlvers are spose to be good
i run a fly but wiegh alot so doesnt work that well
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Cheers guys - I currently run the DC Hombres that came stock with my micromachine, but want to get something better for the next bike, so any suggestions (and reasons for!) are appreciated!
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i run a fly on my blackbike and a ad990 on my holmes, tbh as alex says most u brakes will work well if dialled in properly and i dont notice much difference between the two, according to fly the reason fly brakes cost so much is down to the 6 hours it takes to cnc machine one from a block of alloy, this makes them less prone to flexing than a cast alloy brake
i also had a s&m revenge sealed bearing brake and although it was smoother due to using bearings rather than brass inserts i found it looked cheap due to using diacompe ad parts
personally i think what type of brake blocks you use are more important than the actual brake itself, hence why i use kool stops on both my bikes
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i run a fly on my blackbike and a ad990 on my holmes, tbh as alex says most u brakes will work well if dialled in properly and i dont notice much difference between the two, according to fly the reason fly brakes cost so much is down to the 6 hours it takes to cnc machine one from a block of alloy, this makes them less prone to flexing than a cast alloy brake
i also had a s&m revenge sealed bearing brake and although it was smoother due to using bearings rather than brass inserts i found it looked cheap due to using diacompe ad parts
personally i think what type of brake blocks you use are more important than the actual brake itself, hence why i use kool stops on both my bikes
Thanks for that! I figured as much!
CNC'd Dia compes it is then! Almost half the price of the Flys....
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What about the new demolition brakes. CNC'ed and the have bearings like the revenge ones.
Ive not seen a pair, just read about them.
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I've just recently put on an Odyssey Evo II brake and it works a treat.
I am cr@p at configuring brakes and I put it on expecting to have to adjust it a bit, but first time it worked a treat. Pot luck i think....
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Saying that though, most people who ride a Fly brake do say they are the best brakes they've ever used.
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i use an evo 2 , it was cheap :)
but its down to setup and keeping it all lubed . an old mate could get a hombre to clamp just as well as a hope disc
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Dia compe all the way , ad999 box u brake , there the best and lighter than fly , and a bit cheaper , not much tho . ;)
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when i was looking for a new rear brake i found out that virtually everyone and their dog was running the fly brake!
i am now too and aint had no problems, there was a guy on ebay (softdeal direct?? or softdeal??) doing them for 45 quid
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I recently did a build for a mate who's running EVOii's & they are nice & easy to set-up & work pretty good too. Personally I use Fly rear/Suelo Front
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Dia-Tech AD-990 All The Way... It Wont Let You Down :daumenhoch:
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i got evo 2 front and back :daumenhoch:
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I'm def. leaning to dia compe- I run two brakes so Fly's gonna pump me for over £100!!!
Will have a look at the Evo's as well.
Thanks everyone!
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now i just need to learn some front brake lip tricks :laugh:
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now i just need to learn some front brake lip tricks :laugh:
Yeah - canadian nosepicks are my fav.
Need a damn good front brake for them!
G
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whats them?
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whats them?
You do a full 180 and land with your front wheel right on the lip or the coping with the back wheel as high as you dare, stall it, then hop straight in - awesome trick!
You're staring right down the transition once you stall it, or for extra style points, look up and wink at the crowd...! Heehee!
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feck i'm going to get mullered trying that :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
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feck i'm going to get mullered trying that :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
Just do the usual, try it on something small and work up. Helps if you've got quick feet to save yourself though!
Feel great when you get them.
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Aaaah...... the Canadian Nosepick..... My nemesis....
I've done loads of em, but I couldn't say I actually 'have' them y'know? It's still a lottery after 3 years. Bastard things >:(
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As above, pleasurable but scary trick. I ride into 'em as if doing a normal nosepick but at take off i lock both arms pretty straight and hop a little higher, always get on the coping nicely but it feels like more luck than judgement :-\
shimano cantis up front btw
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As above, pleasurable but scary trick. I ride into 'em as if doing a normal nosepick but at take off i lock both arms pretty straight and hop a little higher, always get on the coping nicely but it feels like more luck than judgement :-\
shimano cantis up front btw
Really? Tell me more - got a pic?
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Ok, starts off here with short odyssey monolever, and a barrell adjuster sat in the top of the stemcap
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/mm455/nosepickben/frontbrake001.jpg)
Cable (inner only) runs down steerer and emerges through a teensy little angled hole you have to drill yourself, keeping a smooth cable line now...!! Then wop on a straddle cable as close to the tyre as possible ( for optimum clearance between cable hanger + forks - you may have to grind a bit off the back of the hanger or add a drop of grease ) and setup as normal. You have to put a small kink in the last inch of inner cable as you push it down the steerer so it finds its way out through the hole easier
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/mm455/nosepickben/frontbrake002.jpg)
Looks neat, uses minimal cable, only hassle is getting hold of some canti lugs each time you change forks.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/mm455/nosepickben/frontbrake003.jpg)
Thanks to g.french for the idea, lugs + welding over the years!!
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WOW - that's an impressive mod. Never seen that before! Great set up and thanks for posting it.
Trust George to come up with that!
If you're in touch with him, tell 'im Gary Forsyth says Hi!
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are you gary forsyth?
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just to throw something else in the mix the Avid Magnesiums are a sweet running brake as well...
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are you gary forsyth?
That would be a "yes" !
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/mrd082.jpg)
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just to throw something else in the mix the Avid Magnesiums are a sweet running brake as well...
Dammit man - too many choices!!!!
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That would be a "yes" !
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/mrd082.jpg)
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We've met.....
It was a sunny august morning in 1994 when our intrepid hero and his mk1 astra full of weary sheffielders arrived in southsea after a 9 hour drive (yeah, the car was overloaded + fooked + i took a wrong turn or 3)
After exchanging names with the first quartet of bmx'ers we met (strange coz it was about 6.30 in the morning when i spotted amos crossing the street alone in front of our car, he beckoned us across to yourselves..) Seconds later, i was bundled into the back of a transit van to sit on a pile of bikes with the rest of my group + amos, gogo and david frame. The new super-gang set out in search of a hot brekky and the rest of the sheffield boys who arrived the evening before us. We were told by the driver (yourself) that we were to give southsea a "glaswegian welcome" which amounted to hurling good natured abuse at passers-by and thumping the van ceiling as hard as we could. This was an exciting start to one of the best weekends of my life. Great weather, great riding, great substances (drugs are bad kids), shitting on bowling greens, comedy ejaculation etc etc...
Also, whenever i hear simon + garfunkels "scarborough fair" i think of you. Not sure why....... :daumenhoch:
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:LolLolLolLol: I always think of Gary whenever I hear Scarborough Fair.
In fact it was down to Gary that I ever took an interest in Simon & Garfunkel. :knuppel2: ;D
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Ok, starts off here with short odyssey monolever, and a barrell adjuster sat in the top of the stemcap
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/mm455/nosepickben/frontbrake001.jpg)
Cable (inner only) runs down steerer and emerges through a teensy little angled hole you have to drill yourself, keeping a smooth cable line now...!! Then wop on a straddle cable as close to the tyre as possible ( for optimum clearance between cable hanger + forks - you may have to grind a bit off the back of the hanger or add a drop of grease ) and setup as normal. You have to put a small kink in the last inch of inner cable as you push it down the steerer so it finds its way out through the hole easier
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/mm455/nosepickben/frontbrake002.jpg)
Looks neat, uses minimal cable, only hassle is getting hold of some canti lugs each time you change forks.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/mm455/nosepickben/frontbrake003.jpg)
Thanks to g.french for the idea, lugs + welding over the years!!
one of the best front brake mods i've ever come accross tbh,
george did me a pair the same years ago, i've often pondered asking him if he'd do me another pair but apparently alot of drill bits get snapped drilling the cable-exit hole,
such a neat brake though :smitten:
whats the frame ben? is it a custom from stu?
you still got that "1 DK?
i've NEVER seen another O/S bike being ridden like that in my life :LolLolLolLol:
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I ran a canti on my front for ages. I used to put the cable outer to one side (like you do for a U brake on the front) and have the inner wire going all the way over to the pinchbolt on the on arm. Id bolt a canti anchor to the fork hole to guide the inner wire over the tire (I cant find a photo at the moment). It gave you more leverage than nosepickbens way, kinda like a V brake is better than a canti. I saw a few people doing the nosepickben way, I think Steve Geals Zimma forks came that way for a while. Its nice and neat but I didnt like the way you had to take the brake apart to remove the forks or stem (maybe Im wrong about that tho?).
The only reason I stopped using a canti on the front was cos I got fedup having to put the mounts on. I tried to build my curent bike totally "modification free" so I went with U brake mounts.
whats them?
You do a full 180 and land with your front wheel right on the lip or the coping with the back wheel as high as you dare, stall it, then hop straight in - awesome trick!
You're staring right down the transition once you stall it, or for extra style points, look up and wink at the crowd...! Heehee!
Canadian example 1: Me at creation last week, the Canadian is 30 seconds in
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Canadian example 2: Nosepick Ben, I presume!
(thats me on the platform to the left)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/gsportadd.jpg)
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whats the frame ben? is it a custom from stu?
you still got that "1 DK?
i've NEVER seen another O/S bike being ridden like that in my life :LolLolLolLol:
Nope it's a sunday i was given, thanks g.
Yeah still got that bike i had set up white + gold, IN 2004/5 I MIGHT fookING ADD, funny how all n/s bikes were black or raw then, now look at the number of people on coloured/white stuff.... Not trying to say i started a trend, just pre-empted it.
It's since been restored to it's former racing-spec glory, i love that frame too much to risk another skatepark sesh on it.
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That would be a "yes" !
We've met.....
It was a sunny august morning in 1994 when our intrepid hero and his mk1 astra full of weary sheffielders arrived in southsea after a 9 hour drive (yeah, the car was overloaded + fooked + i took a wrong turn or 3)
After exchanging names with the first quartet of bmx'ers we met (strange coz it was about 6.30 in the morning when i spotted amos crossing the street alone in front of our car, he beckoned us across to yourselves..) Seconds later, i was bundled into the back of a transit van to sit on a pile of bikes with the rest of my group + amos, gogo and david frame. The new super-gang set out in search of a hot brekky and the rest of the sheffield boys who arrived the evening before us. We were told by the driver (yourself) that we were to give southsea a "glaswegian welcome" which amounted to hurling good natured abuse at passers-by and thumping the van ceiling as hard as we could. This was an exciting start to one of the best weekends of my life. Great weather, great riding, great substances (drugs are bad kids), shitting on bowling greens, comedy ejaculation etc etc...
Also, whenever i hear simon + garfunkels "scarborough fair" i think of you. Not sure why....... :daumenhoch:
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That WAS a great weekend, first major comp I competed in for years - I nearly won K.o.C.! - (damn you David Frame!) - came third in Pro street, (footplanted the Pagoda off the spine!), bent 2 back wheels, 10th in Pro Flat (rode to Queen, Bicycle Race! Anyone got THAT on video?) and generally had a bit of a mad time! Not sure about the bowling greens or the comedy ejaculation though....(!)
360 to bent wheel.....
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/Southsea.jpg)
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whats them?
You do a full 180 and land with your front wheel right on the lip or the coping with the back wheel as high as you dare, stall it, then hop straight in - awesome trick!
You're staring right down the transition once you stall it, or for extra style points, look up and wink at the crowd...! Heehee!
Canadian example 1: Me at creation last week, the Canadian is 30 seconds in
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Your 2nd nosepick is a perfect example Alex!
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:LolLolLolLol: I always think of Gary whenever I hear Scarborough Fair.
In fact it was down to Gary that I ever took an interest in Simon & Garfunkel. :knuppel2: ;D
Not sure if that's a claim to fame I want to be proud of(!).
Border TV messed up a bit on my music for that comp - there was supposed to be a 50/50 split from Sigue Sigue Sputnik into S&G, (can't remember why I thought that was a good idea), but they did it more like 20/80!
That wasn't a great run if I remember correctly.
Come to think of it - YOU must have that on video.....any chance of YouTubing it? Havn't seen it for years....
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i tried today for a bit but thought alex might show me tuesday :4_17_5: :4_17_5:
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i tried today for a bit but thought alex might show me tuesday :4_17_5: :4_17_5:
Go for it - they're a great trick. I need to practice them again myself. Best to try them on something that has a good kick to the transition - throws you up better. Let us know how you get on.
G
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i tried today for a bit but thought alex might show me tuesday :4_17_5: :4_17_5:
Go for it - they're a great trick. I need to practice them again myself. Best to try them on something that has a good kick to the transition - throws you up better. Let us know how you get on.
G
If we're still talking about canadians, I think of them more like a disaster than a nosepick, just that you land a bit higher and a bit further back. Try them way down, on the transitions and work up. As long as your brake works, and the ramp aint too slippy (or too steep) you will be able to work up to doing them right below the coping, then its just that last step
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feck that. thats do em at the coping! :daumenhoch:
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the 360 version is the sweetest trick ever :daumenhoch:
imho
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nosepick ben are you ben from sheffield who went around with the carve lot?? black hair? rode a chrome GT early 90s?
haha
dating direct or something
twenty wolves chris shouting out the sheffield massive (or something.. )
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yeah that's me. I've followed your bmx journalism with interest over the years, last saw you at southsea, probably 98/99 ish, how's will evans by the way? u still in touch with him?
I did my first handrail in a session at telford '92 with you guys, did it opposite as well then whacked my head on a street sign ducking under it. Remember you and george getting thrown out of mcdonalds ball pool......
One hell of a weekend to a 17 year old numpty like me. Keep it real.
See you at mk08 for some headers and volleys bwoyeee...!! :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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yo ben! we're all here now.
will is doing fine, got a standard in his cellar that never sees the light of day.. but we do get out mtbing when his gatefitting / being a dad schedule allows.
make it mk09 for headers and volleys, ive got a wedding and southsea flat jam.. and i won't be walking let alone running/kicking/riding til september (achilles tendon snapped, doing pretty much headers and volleys, HA!)
word up!
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Shucks..
You were a bugger for being injured as i remember mate, probably those defective genes of yours.
I work every other weekend but i'm off for mk08, dates fell lovely. Just sortin out the race bike, found the matching shimano dx to an orphan i'd been saving ;D well happy.
speak later Mr Job.
:) :) :)