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Title: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: hunterdubber on July 11, 2008, 11:35 PM
So many builds are put up on here and totally ruined by fitting an ELINA UL  :crazy2:

THE CRAPPEST LOOKING SEAT EVER MADE  :tickedoff:

Sits way too far forward , crap angle too

Just totally ruins the look of any bike :(


All those in favour say aye  ;)

Anybody else slightly disagree with this

close the door behind you , you've not got a clue about taste darling  ::)  :P

 :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Gashead on July 11, 2008, 11:38 PM
http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g243/gashead69/?action=view&current=Picture001.jpg
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g243/gashead69/Picture001.jpg)



Sorry dear - looks spot on to me  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: ron burgundy on July 11, 2008, 11:42 PM
No, Dubbers right... they look shite ;D
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Gashead on July 11, 2008, 11:48 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Waxintaxin on July 11, 2008, 11:49 PM
The elina flyte tech come pretty close  
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: hunterdubber on July 11, 2008, 11:50 PM
You're telling me I'm right  ;)

that ' s 2-1 against em


cheap and nasty  ;D

Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: hunterdubber on July 11, 2008, 11:51 PM
3-1  ;)
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Gashead on July 11, 2008, 11:54 PM
You win  :daumenhoch:

Collect £200 when you pass go  ;)
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: mark 2 on July 12, 2008, 12:47 AM
Don't give up Nick! I love Elina's , had a right fetish for buying them but most bikes I've tried UL's on look shite but it works on this poorly pic'd bicycle, where a fluted and lightning bolt failed.  Smell my balls Dubber!

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v213/mikamagic1/KZ2.jpg)
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Tefore on July 12, 2008, 12:55 AM
gotta agree they dont look right. gota be a lightning bolt in my opinion. but what the feck do i know.lol
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: 2020mad on July 12, 2008, 02:04 AM
i think they look ok but i'ma novice builder, not finished one yet  :-[
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: MartyC on July 12, 2008, 03:37 AM
I disagree, on certain bikes they look spot on; it's all to do with the seat tube angle.  Redlines, CW's look great with them, Rippers, Skyways, Hutch, etc look pants with them.  It's more about people researching what goes right with a build before doing it - a bit like how some people put their bars way too far forward.  Well that's my opinion anyway  :LolLolLolLol:.
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: munners on July 12, 2008, 07:19 AM
I disagree, on certain bikes they look spot on; it's all to do with the seat tube angle.  Redlines, CW's look great with them, Rippers, Skyways, Hutch, etc look pants with them.  It's more about people researching what goes right with a build before doing it - a bit like how some people put their bars way too far forward.  Well that's my opinion anyway  :LolLolLolLol:.

I dont agree with the bars Marty mate. Im tall and when i do a build i tighten the stem once the bars feel comfy to me when im sitting on the seat. This makes the bars look too forward.

If you look at old skool pics alot of us had our bars forward to the degree that if the bike had  been pictured like that it would look crap.

I agree though that bars for pics do look better when in line with the angle of the forks but it dosent make a build any worse for hving them forward. ;)

Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: moley on July 12, 2008, 08:00 AM
Elina UL are crap but they are quite light.

Perfect for OS racing!!

And they are not too phallic like the Uni Turbos

For Bars, I think to get the true OS BITD, when I was a lad look, your bars have to be either too far forward or too far back.

I'm glad to know that this tradition is carrying on these days.   

Whenever I go to a track these days, you'll find plenty of youngsters with the bars too forward or back!!!  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: pickle on July 12, 2008, 08:02 AM
must say i'm not a huge fan of the UL, yes they're nice and light but i really like the Uni Pro's  :daumenhoch:  they're well nice!
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: OrgasmDonor on July 12, 2008, 08:39 AM
im not a fan, and would never use one but then i have so many other ways to kill a build :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: dannywhiteley on July 12, 2008, 08:54 AM
I quite like um, but then again I know very little.
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: lodge on July 12, 2008, 08:59 AM
I came off doing a kickturn bitd and a fkng Elina UL seat cut half my finger off. So yeah there shite.
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: magna13 on July 12, 2008, 09:05 AM
Got To Admit That They Do Kill Some Builds, Except For Mark J's And Nicks Kuwis, I Think They Look Great On Those Bikes... And The Bikes Look Fab, Well Done Guys :daumenhoch:. I Would Buy One For My Racer So If You Come Off And Scuff It Its Not Like Your Scuffing An Expensive Kashimax, Shot Gun II, Uni Etc. But I Would Never Put One On A Show Bike IMO

Zak  :)
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: crazycraig on July 12, 2008, 09:13 AM
Ive built my next bike around the UL !!!!! so they must be cool .........whos dubber ?
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Zippy on July 12, 2008, 09:18 AM
They're just wrong, you should be able to change the angle of a seat and on these you can't.  ;)
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: magna13 on July 12, 2008, 09:20 AM
Sounds Like A Not Very Good Seat, Except For The Superb Lightness
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Daddybass on July 12, 2008, 09:28 AM
HELP!!!! I was just about to buy one for my first build (a rider) any suggestions for a cheap alternative?   :'(
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: magna13 on July 12, 2008, 09:31 AM
Aero Seat  :daumenhoch:, Looks Like A Kashimax Aero But For Alot Less Price. I Have One On My Racer And It Looks Good. They're Pretty Cheap Too  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: magna13 on July 12, 2008, 09:32 AM
Here It Is.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-OLD-SCHOOL-AERO-HARD-SEAT-BMX-BLUE-VINTAGE_W0QQitemZ180263775323QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180263775323&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: motomagII on July 12, 2008, 09:33 AM
well ilove em i use one on me race bike and my new build too if they fit new wschool id have one on there too lol

not comfy to sit on but ya dont sit much when racing round the tracks

Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: magna13 on July 12, 2008, 09:35 AM
 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Daddybass on July 12, 2008, 09:54 AM
 :daumenhoch: ill keep my eyes peeled for a red one.
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: mark 2 on July 12, 2008, 10:05 AM
UL's  will work on a bike with a relaxed angle on the seat tube and where you can run them low balanced with a smaller handlebar. Otherwise a big lofty bar and low seat (you can only run UL's kinda low)  and  a steep angle seat tube and you've got Sandy Toksvig syndrome with you being small on the bike with your shoulders bunched up, no  balance to the build and looks shite. And on Japanese builds Elina yes , Uni no. US builds whack on a Uni. There's my 10p's worth of will they or won't they :yahoo_silent:

 :LolLolLolLol:


Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Lazarou on July 12, 2008, 10:29 AM
I feel that way about Uni seats and whitewall tyres, they completely ruin a bike for me.
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: scary_leary on July 12, 2008, 10:52 AM
yep.. shite
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: hunterdubber on July 12, 2008, 10:54 AM
12-6 so far against


Mark my balls are already out , come and get 'em  ;)

Craig you should know better
mind  you some of the colours you build  ::) ( you like having  bit of an asian theme to some of them bikes  ;D )


It's more the how they sit really forward like you've slided the seat guts right back on a seat , soooooooooooooooper shite

They must ride like having a 14 " top tube  :crazy2:

Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Jt on July 12, 2008, 11:00 AM
ELINA UL.....shite.

always were.

got one on my kuwie nova as a kid and it was even shit then.

straight off and a kashi on.

anyone who has one on a bike is officially a bmx pikey and is sinbinned until proper seats are comandeered and installed...

i did put one on a robinson expert, and it looked ok, but it would cos i did it....i'm great though.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/q204/jonathonsturner/DSC01069.jpg)

and thats that, so no moaning, just sort it.

p.s i have seen the UL on craigs torker..that looks shite as well, and i've even offered him a free decent yellow seat, cos i felt sorry for him..

there is just no helping some people though....
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: crazycraig on July 12, 2008, 11:03 AM
I have a NOS yellow kashi  :4_17_5: BUT im gonna run with the UL even more so now . >:D

PS dont feel sorry for me not with them generic padsets anyway
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Jt on July 12, 2008, 11:04 AM
told you :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: MartyC on July 12, 2008, 11:05 AM
I dont agree with the bars Marty mate. Im tall and when i do a build i tighten the stem once the bars feel comfy to me when im sitting on the seat. This makes the bars look too forward.

If you look at old skool pics alot of us had our bars forward to the degree that if the bike had  been pictured like that it would look crap.

I agree though that bars for pics do look better when in line with the angle of the forks but it dosent make a build any worse for hving them forward. ;)

Nick, I spent most of my youth through to early twenties working in bike shops (Heff's in West Drayton and Pedal Power in Isleworth), trust me when I say most kids had their bars too far forward because they had slipped forward trying jump their clinkers and not out of choice.  The amount of times we would put them right for kids on a Saturday morning only to do it again for them a week later  :daumenhoch:.  If the bars are too far forward the sterring is too "quick" and prone to washing out the front wheel in corners, on the other hand it does make sit down wheelies easier  :).

A good guide to how your bars should be was printed in BMX Action...

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g114/martycoughlin/BarWars2.jpg)

Marty  ;)
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Gashead on July 12, 2008, 11:07 AM
 :LolLolLolLol:

Pikey here  >:(

I must say they are not the most attractive thing on the eye - however I guess if we build a bike to spec i.e The Nova, then it came with a UL - I could go in the loft and change it to a Kashi maybe but that then ain't spec correct.

Where's Bodamus when you need him  ::)

Anyway I still love you all whether you are homosexual to the Elina UL or not  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Gashead on July 12, 2008, 11:10 AM
Bars forward - not me  :LolLolLolLol:



http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g243/gashead69/?action=view&current=ET82.jpg
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g243/gashead69/ET82.jpg)



Don't even think about any trainer comments  :2gunsfiring_v1:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: MartyC on July 12, 2008, 11:13 AM
Don't even think about any trainer comments  :2gunsfiring_v1:

I was thinking about making a comment on the socks  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: mark 2 on July 12, 2008, 11:19 AM
And when your bars are too far forward Nick it looks like your trying to put your bell in your mouth when riding your bike.
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: bof on July 12, 2008, 11:44 AM
Elina UL's should be burnt at the stake. Add me to your list Dubber. :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Gashead on July 12, 2008, 11:47 AM
A girl in my class pulled my bell off once  :2funny:


Anyway bars forward made me RAD  :daumenhoch:


http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g243/gashead69/?action=view&current=Barsforward.jpg
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g243/gashead69/Barsforward.jpg)


Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: bodamus on July 12, 2008, 12:10 PM
I agree Elina UL's are shite looking and haven't got one on any of my bikes. But will be be puting one on my White Kuwahara Nova as it's the Seat that it came with and I'm building it to spec.

I also hate Uni pro and Uni Hammerhead Seats think they look w@nk on most bikes with only a very few exceptions.

bodamus :)
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: magna13 on July 12, 2008, 12:29 PM
A girl in my class pulled my bell off once  :2funny:


Anyway bars forward made me RAD  :daumenhoch:


http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g243/gashead69/?action=view&current=Barsforward.jpg
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g243/gashead69/Barsforward.jpg)



Ace Pics Nick, Got Anymore? P.S.Lovin' The Kuwi ET  :daumenhoch: :smitten:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Jt on July 12, 2008, 01:53 PM
I dont agree with the bars Marty mate. Im tall and when i do a build i tighten the stem once the bars feel comfy to me when im sitting on the seat. This makes the bars look too forward.

If you look at old skool pics alot of us had our bars forward to the degree that if the bike had  been pictured like that it would look crap.

I agree though that bars for pics do look better when in line with the angle of the forks but it dosent make a build any worse for hving them forward. ;)

Nick, I spent most of my youth through to early twenties working in bike shops (Heff's in West Drayton and Pedal Power in Isleworth), trust me when I say most kids had their bars too far forward because they had slipped forward trying jump their clinkers and not out of choice.  The amount of times we would put them right for kids on a Saturday morning only to do it again for them a week later  :daumenhoch:.  If the bars are too far forward the sterring is too "quick" and prone to washing out the front wheel in corners, on the other hand it does make sit down wheelies easier  :).

A good guide to how your bars should be was printed in BMX Action...

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g114/martycoughlin/BarWars2.jpg)

Marty  ;)

brilliant!

not only has craig used a ul but his cars are really forward as well....

gwarn :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Gashead on July 12, 2008, 02:00 PM
No more pics  :D

http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g243/gashead69/?action=view&current=Barsforward1.jpg
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g243/gashead69/Barsforward1.jpg)

http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g243/gashead69/?action=view&current=Barsforward2.jpg
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g243/gashead69/Barsforward2.jpg)
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: magna13 on July 12, 2008, 02:29 PM
Nice Pics Nick, That Kuwi Looks Nice! What Bars Did You Have On It :smitten:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Gashead on July 12, 2008, 02:33 PM
GT pro's I think  ???

No UL in sight mind  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: magna13 on July 12, 2008, 02:38 PM
Nice!

The Seats An Aeroyal Isnt It?  ??? Or A Kashi Aero?
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: crazycraig on July 12, 2008, 02:39 PM
I dont agree with the bars Marty mate. Im tall and when i do a build i tighten the stem once the bars feel comfy to me when im sitting on the seat. This makes the bars look too forward.

If you look at old skool pics alot of us had our bars forward to the degree that if the bike had  been pictured like that it would look crap.

I agree though that bars for pics do look better when in line with the angle of the forks but it dosent make a build any worse for hving them forward. ;)

Nick, I spent most of my youth through to early twenties working in bike shops (Heff's in West Drayton and Pedal Power in Isleworth), trust me when I say most kids had their bars too far forward because they had slipped forward trying jump their clinkers and not out of choice.  The amount of times we would put them right for kids on a Saturday morning only to do it again for them a week later  :daumenhoch:.  If the bars are too far forward the sterring is too "quick" and prone to washing out the front wheel in corners, on the other hand it does make sit down wheelies easier  :).

A good guide to how your bars should be was printed in BMX Action...

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g114/martycoughlin/BarWars2.jpg)

Marty  ;)

brilliant!

not only has craig used a ul but his cars are really forward as well....

gwarn :daumenhoch:
Oi!!!! whats my car got to do with it ?  :-\
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: BOBLAMBO on July 12, 2008, 04:14 PM
ELINA IS SPOT ON ON A KUWAHARA BUILD, ANYTHING ELSE LOOKS OUT OF PLACE,ALSO THE ELINA HAS A AERO MODEL AS FITTED TO THE LAZERLITE AS STANDARD,NOVA ONLY LOOKS RIGHT WITH A ELINA UL IN BLACK AND WHITE TWO TONE..................... SO YOU ARE WRONG..............GOODBYE
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: magna13 on July 12, 2008, 05:09 PM
 :)
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: hunterdubber on July 12, 2008, 10:10 PM
Elinas yes on a Kuwahara build  :4_17_5:  :4_17_5:  :4_17_5: ( lightening bolt , flyte tech )


Elina UL's no no no  ;D




95,00000 to 6 against   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: magna13 on July 12, 2008, 10:24 PM
 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: MartyC on July 13, 2008, 02:57 AM

95,00000 to 6 against   :daumenhoch:

I've told you a million times to stop exaggerating  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: ONE EASY WAY HOW TO KILL YOUR BUILD
Post by: Bob_Acid on July 13, 2008, 03:09 AM
I agree, they suck and Uni's do too unless it's blue or red and has got a MAX cover it in which case i'm going to steal it and run off with it.   :angel:
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