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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: generallee on August 16, 2008, 12:42 PM
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Id like the opinion of fellow radsetrs on something thats been on my mind a long time...
If a new bmx company brought out a retro inspired bmx frame, what would YOU want to see on it? colours? Bottom bracket type? Headset type? Brake mounts? Looptial or not? etc etc.
This is a serious question dudes as Im having a little think about going down this route - Ive always wanted to go into bike manafcture - and would like to perhaps have a brand that is good looking, slightly nostalgic and with its roots firmly in fun. Id not be interested in competing with the big boys and there modern tuff - just something thats good and rideable for us older fellas out there who like their bike to look a certain way.
Anyway, any thoughts would be greatly appreciated,
cheers!
steve
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no canti or v brakes thats my 2 pennys worth
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im possibly thinking thats the way to go too Dan. If it was a complete bike option, then Id need to source a very good caliper brake - not sure whats out there though...
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i know what your saying steve 990s for me on a retro build just dont like the look or instant feel
even thou levers have better adjustment on some.
what style are you thinking of frame that is race freestyle or along kappa lines
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im thinking more race/dirt in design really - though am keeping an open mind.
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well i know of one frame i would deffo use as a template in a super lite tubing setup and i posted it to you about 1 month ago ;)
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Like the idea, when i found BMX again last autumn, couldn't understand why big boys were not doing it themselves? Biggest question for me would it be deemed old school legal?
Always loved chrome bitd, never had anything but, in terms of brakes, just discovered Pit bulls (came out after i gave up as a kid), best stopping power i've every felt.
Good on yer Steve, nice idea, and looking at the quality of your builds i'm sure anything you do will be absolutely detail perfect!
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thanks magoo! Yep, im thinking maybe old school legal, at least have one frame/fork for that purpose, then possibly a 1.1/8" / ad990 /internal headset version for cruising and riding with all the benefits of new technology.
Anyway, any more thoughts, please let me know!
steve
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Loads of different personal preferences out there, I'm sure alot of us are riding what we can afford or what is available, rather than what we would actually like to ride, for me it'd be my old TA, but probably too short now-adays, and definately too expensive!
My personal preferences are loop tail, decent length front end, geometry that allows front up at the slightest touch, turns on a dime in berms but is stable in the air, (think to get that lot together is probably a mathematical impossibility), then, cos i'm still in '86 in BMX terms, dayglo orange cables, lever protectors bottom bracket boots, grips etc.....
pull all that out at an affordable price, and i think there is a whole market to be exploited out there with the impact of the olympics and more Dad's wanting to give it another go....especially with old school prices rocketing and availability being rare!
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Get some colours back into bmx Steve, my ten pence worth :LolLolLolLol:
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Always liked the look of slender tubes on the race bikes bitd, my Harry Leary Turbo is well skinny compared to todays bikes.
Always liked a nice gusset too!! :daumenhoch:
Look forward to seeing your ideas.... drawings, name etc etc
Good luck mate, sounds like a fantastic project.
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gotta have massive cowhorns like we had on are racers
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:)Sounds like an interesting idea,but would it not be too much of a niche market? Love to see a new school race frame with a looptail though...
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I Think That Maybe Steve, If You Was To Start A New Retro BMX You Would Need To Start A Retro BMX Firm Like 'Kappa'. I Think In Bike Terms You Should Make Something That Has Class, Carisma, Ledgendry Past, Excellent Qualitys Like Handling, Weight Etc. And Would Make Everybody Buy It And Love It! :daumenhoch:
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can't fault alot of the current rides out there now, but as i ride flat only nowadays some of the bikes look too kooky.
would love a replica 26" haro sport for general cruising. modern gizmo's- internal headset, mid bb, ad lugs f& rear. and 26" 5 spoke tuffs.
all in white. :smitten: :smitten:
well we can all dream.
20" for tricks though.
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These didnt turn out too bad ;)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/kappa002.jpg)
:) DINGO :)
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very nice D :daumenhoch:
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Spanish BB, no need for american as no one really runs one piece cranks nowadays.
Definately not v brakes, they just look wrong on a small frame.
Skinny frame tubes, no crimped chainstays (you know, to give tyre clearance) it looks so cheap.
A seat high enough to sit on :daumenhoch:
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Loving all the comments guys - all being taken on board.
As for this being a niche market, thats entirely what im aiming for - not to make a living and build a future , but to cater for and service the niche that we're all in!
steve
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it will need a saddle bag and a rack
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and spokey dokeys
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and please dont forget the radkaps
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The design would be dependant on the intended use I guess.
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Quite right Si.
Im gonna have a ball doing this - possibly a frame for old school racing. Maybe a frame for new school racing/dirt/ light park use.. But only with old school inspired colours/designs etc.
By the way Si, have you posted them Ukai rims to custom colour for me?
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Not euro BB, reckon Mid as it is just US without the cups and seems to be the cheapest, also still quite large to keep the old look. Dont think there is a good caliper to stop us 12 stone plus adults. Some chrome and colours.
How about solid billet wheels like tuffs, get Orange County to make them :LolLolLolLol:
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Steve,
If you make a frame that is OS racing legal it still wouldnt be legal as there is a "no ringers" rule
:) DINGO :)
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aha, thats an important rule that one mark!
No worries, Im still going to forge ahead withsome old school inspired goodies... watch this space!
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aha, thats an important rule that one mark!
No worries, Im still going to forge ahead withsome old school inspired goodies... watch this space!
wasnt trying to p1ss on your parade Stevie, just wanted to make you aware before you sank hard earned into it :daumenhoch:
:) DINGO :)
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it will need a saddle bag and a rack
(http://www.zednet.co.uk/onyerbike/listings/7.gif)
How about this Eddie Fiola Special? :LolLolLolLol:
A good 'New' Retro BMX!!
Definitely Chrome
Small Tubing
It has to have that bling factor.
Modern Geometry so that its rideable. It would be a waste of time making a niche bike just for show!!!
A long enough seat tube.
Mounts for any type of of brake. Let the user make his choice (removable brake lugs)!!
:daumenhoch:
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Chroming it will cost a fortune and that money would be better spent on quality tubing.
Rims posted tomorrow Steve. :daumenhoch:
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Controversial!!! but only my thoughts as an innocent bi-stander. In light of dwindling? numbers in old school, and trying to bring new blood back into the sport. Tied in with the rising cost and availability of real old school bikes, and being that old school is quoted as being for fun and a way to ease back into the sport. Would it not be feasible that if a new bike was built to retro spec and with-in old school rules, so as not to give any advantage, other than perhaps being a little stronger through not being sat idle in a shed for 15 years, that rules could be re-vamped........this could have multiple advantages for the sport?
After all, many old school bikes are built up of nos parts, so are practically new in most senses.
By providing an "off the shelf bike race ready bike" for the new old schoolers could possibly make it a lot easier to get back into the sport. I Know through recent threads a few guys on here have fallen foul and spent hard earnt on mid and new school bikes with-out realising they would not be legal. This could solve many headaches and financial issues for people wanting to come back?
This is only my opinion and really from personnal experience from trying to find a bike that is race legal. How many posts do we get on rad from newbies asking how to get hold of a bike, what is best and what budget....surely if steve could achieve this, with-in the rules numbers would grow?
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and a big rubber horn that you can honk to your hearts content
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I want a revver !! :daumenhoch: