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Title: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: generallee on August 17, 2008, 09:34 PM
Its pretty comon knowledge thats its fun to collect mid school stuff as its still fairly easy to find certain parts - but ther seem to be some parts that have simply disappeared. Parts that were 10 to the dozen in the 90's that you cant find for love nor money.
I'll start -

Amberwall GT MAGABITE tyres. amazing tread, fat front, skinny rear, Ritchey then did the Ritchey Megabite mtb tyre which became the Ritchey Z Max.
Anyone have any gt megabites? Ive been on the lookout for years!

anyone else care to mention any impossible to find mid school parts?
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Post by: Philbert on August 17, 2008, 09:58 PM
acs rl edge tyres
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Post by: Philbert on August 17, 2008, 09:59 PM
volume hellion frame. took the world by storm as it had such a good price, never see them anymore!
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Post by: rarman1 on August 17, 2008, 10:10 PM
acs rl edge tyres


 :'(  and to think i almost got some...... bollox :crazy2:
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: bmxer4ever on August 17, 2008, 10:19 PM
My bottle - seem to have lost it and can't find it anywhere....  :LolLolLolLol:
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Post by: darkersomeday on August 17, 2008, 11:01 PM
"1-1/8th holmes frame!!!!

i remember seeing loads,

can i find one to restore now?

can i fook :shocked:
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: revcore on August 18, 2008, 03:58 AM
Its pretty comon knowledge thats its fun to collect mid school stuff as its still fairly easy to find certain parts - but ther seem to be some parts that have simply disappeared. Parts that were 10 to the dozen in the 90's that you cant find for love nor money.
I'll start -

Amberwall GT MAGABITE tyres. amazing tread, fat front, skinny rear, Ritchey then did the Ritchey Megabite mtb tyre which became the Ritchey Z Max.
Anyone have any gt megabites? Ive been on the lookout for years!

anyone else care to mention any impossible to find mid school parts?

I've got a NOS Ritchey Z Max skinwall tyre......Now if I can be so lucky as to finding another then I'd be a happy chappy.
I've also got a set of Skinwall GT Megabite tyres too! Fat and skinny and still loads of tread on them (I bought them new when they first came out - Only downside is the dryrot that has set into the sidewalls).
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: OrgasmDonor on August 18, 2008, 07:26 AM
ive just got a set of chrome sun chinooks with gt sealed hubs for £40 when they guy brought them round he said "oh ive left the tyres on for ya" a really good fatty thin set of gt megabites :daumenhoch: not fussed on runnin a fatty tho ::)
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: kev-s on August 18, 2008, 01:42 PM
"1-1/8th holmes frame!!!!

i remember seeing loads,

can i find one to restore now?

can i fook :shocked:



there still out there and quite cheap too, was one on ebay.com last week and he was willing to post to the uk

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/S-M-HOLMES-1996-Black-BMX-Frame-w-3-8-axle-slots-NICE_W0QQitemZ180277617013QQihZ008QQcategoryZ64644QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


and im gutted i missed this!!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/S-M-Holmes-Old-School-BMX-Frame_W0QQitemZ290250790356QQihZ019QQcategoryZ64644QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on August 18, 2008, 02:06 PM
 :) I`ve got a stack of FreakFactory seats :LolLolLolLol:Possibly the ugliest BMX part ever made!
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: Miko on August 18, 2008, 06:20 PM
Havok Sprocket Pocket.  I've seen 1 in the last couple years.

Older UGP number plates.  Nothing out there anymore.

Haro Holeshot tires.  Harder to find than Megabites. 

First series ATI grips.  Like the ones they gave away in BMX Plus in the early 90's.

Anything Revcore or Hutchins. 
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: Philbert on August 18, 2008, 06:49 PM
anything by king
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Post by: harris on August 18, 2008, 06:51 PM
 :)
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: macky on August 18, 2008, 06:58 PM

Not too Mid skool... ??

but havn't seen a GT Aggressor Bashguard frame since about 92 ??
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: harris on August 18, 2008, 07:05 PM
london bikes stuff
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Post by: Philbert on August 18, 2008, 07:24 PM
jimjam giro's
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: darkersomeday on August 18, 2008, 07:31 PM
"1-1/8th holmes frame!!!!

i remember seeing loads,

can i find one to restore now?

can i fook :shocked:



there still out there and quite cheap too, was one on ebay.com last week and he was willing to post to the uk

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/S-M-HOLMES-1996-Black-BMX-Frame-w-3-8-axle-slots-NICE_W0QQitemZ180277617013QQihZ008QQcategoryZ64644QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


and im gutted i missed this!!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/S-M-Holmes-Old-School-BMX-Frame_W0QQitemZ290250790356QQihZ019QQcategoryZ64644QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem





i clocked the first one but it'd gone before he got back to me with a shipping price,


aaah well, the search continues!

Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: JT71 on August 18, 2008, 07:59 PM
Havok Sprocket Pocket.  I've seen 1 in the last couple years.. 

I've had two of the later Havok/Odyssey Sprocket Pockets in black in my possession in the last 6 months.

one's fitted and one got given to a mid school Guru.

I'd love a white one though.
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: Lazarou on August 18, 2008, 10:41 PM
jimjam giro's


The ultimate rarity!!!
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Post by: subversion on August 18, 2008, 10:46 PM
acs rl edge tyres

 :-X
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: darkersomeday on August 18, 2008, 11:00 PM
g-sport dirt hubs

bellends

barnsley working mens clubs

donger forks

sam fox's fanny
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: condor96 on August 19, 2008, 05:46 AM
 acs rl edge and true tires
odyssey z77 and cobra seats,my faves, ive had a million of em- they were ten dollars all day long
the first style of primo pervert upper gyro cable, the one with the engraved p. the only one ive seen is on my condor
the original primo meat tenderizers, not the bigger super tenderizers-again did i have the only pair in the world?
peregrine pedals-dont see 2 many
early gack hubs-i saw a good number of ppl with them bitd laced to super7x or peregine rims
peregrine super pros 48- i think everybody ran a set of them(everybody i knew did including me),so why are they so expensive?
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: fugazi on August 19, 2008, 03:19 PM
I have a pervert with the P on it, so there's 2 of us! I also have a 10mm gack/girthy front hub, still spins as good as the day it was made, laced into a hoffman hi roller rim 8)

Those primo tenderizers, were they the "flat" ones, no concave?

How about peregrine phat jacks? Super pro rim, big ass hubs & 12g spokes, buff...
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: kev-s on August 19, 2008, 03:26 PM
i run peregrine super pros with phat jaxx hubs on my holmes, i do love super pros :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: condor96 on August 19, 2008, 07:41 PM
I have a pervert with the P on it, so there's 2 of us! I also have a 10mm gack/girthy front hub, still spins as good as the day it was made, laced into a hoffman hi roller rim 8)

Those primo tenderizers, were they the "flat" ones, no concave?

How about peregrine phat jacks? Super pro rim, big ass hubs & 12g spokes, buff...
those perverts are cool (wow that sounds really weird lol)
yeh the tenderizers were small and flat, i didnt like them to much plus i bent one within a week at a play contest
phat jacks-cha ching$$$$$$$$$$$$$ i saw one set bitd they wernt cheap. alot of superpros tho(my set is a little rough but not to to bad)
now i think the peregrine name should be respelled $$$$bigmoneychaching$$$$ lol
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: Philbert on August 19, 2008, 08:04 PM
dan harris has 90% of the uk populations superpros!

honest theres a pic of them all in his shed somewhere on here
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: harris on August 19, 2008, 08:12 PM
you fibber you phil
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: harris on August 19, 2008, 08:19 PM
they was outside   ;)
added a few more sets since then but yes still rare.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/100_0794.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/100_0792.jpg)
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: Philbert on August 19, 2008, 08:22 PM
chateau nerf da pap!

we need to do a deal someday mate! with amberwall primos on them!
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: rarman1 on August 19, 2008, 08:50 PM

Not too Mid skool... ??

but havn't seen a GT Aggressor Bashguard frame since about 92 ??

i very nearly bought one of these a month ago
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: kev-s on August 19, 2008, 09:00 PM


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/100_0794.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/100_0792.jpg)



ive died and gone to heaven :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: condor96 on August 20, 2008, 08:09 AM
 :'(not fair lol love all those super pros! especially with vmonsters and multisurfaces! id be set with every build i could imagine with all those! :smitten: :smitten:
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: harris on August 22, 2008, 02:21 PM
what about clothing companies also
JUNK clothing    was it that bad   ???
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Post by: JT71 on August 22, 2008, 03:14 PM
I seem to remember having some nice long denim shorts by "Lord" they were well tidy.

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Post by: kev-s on August 22, 2008, 04:26 PM
i remember those shorts, lord clothing is still going

http://www.lordclothing.com/frameset.html

not got the mass appeal like bench has now, i remember buying bench shorts for £10 from the guy who owned them at a stall at the 94 backyard jam
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: firebird4130 on August 22, 2008, 10:22 PM
Jinx clothing
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Post by: woody allen bars on August 22, 2008, 10:24 PM
2B  8)
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: revcore on August 23, 2008, 01:21 PM
Answer ProForx with the alloy fork crown :smitten:
I've still got mine in almost mint condition :)
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: stuntmaster on August 23, 2008, 03:18 PM
2B  8)

i`ve hunted high and low for my 2b tee shirt that i got bitd from a southsea doo. wish i could find it and great tee shirt even if it did go down to my knees
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: OrgasmDonor on August 23, 2008, 03:47 PM
Answer ProForx with the alloy fork crown :smitten:
I've still got mine in almost mint condition :)

scored 2 nos sets from the US last month, 1 silver set n tuther set purple, both are goin on riders, i gave one set a ride out a couple of times last week, really got into the feel of them 2nd time out, top forks :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: subversion on August 23, 2008, 08:53 PM
Jinx clothing

Friend of mine still has a couple of Jinx shirts & some fat-arse shorts too :daumenhoch:

Anyone remember Funk Pelts?
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: firebird4130 on August 23, 2008, 11:01 PM
cool I liked the jinx top I had, I even fixed it back together with string when it got ripped  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: welsh denny on August 24, 2008, 03:17 PM
still got 2 x 2b t shirts- for men with 20 inchers and 2b fish.
and my black 2 hip t.
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: Philbert on August 25, 2008, 06:10 PM
+- clothing
allied clothing
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Post by: generallee on August 26, 2008, 04:55 PM
Village Idiot clothing.
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Post by: se-bmxer on August 26, 2008, 05:04 PM
2 hip shin guards that looked like grannies old curtains  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: magna13 on August 26, 2008, 06:15 PM
its not a part but a f+f. SE Assasins. i cant find one in this country to save me life. at one point they was all over but now they're all gone  :(
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: darkersomeday on August 26, 2008, 07:09 PM
its not a part but a f+f. SE Assasins. i cant find one in this country to save me life. at one point they was all over but now they're all gone  :(
[/quote

like hens teeth eh? :LolLolLolLol:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Se-Racing-Assassin-Frame-Pro-Xl-Nos-Bmx_W0QQitemZ350086962258QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350086962258&_trkparms=72%3A1089%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: generallee on August 27, 2008, 09:34 AM
Shiner sill have the oversized 1.1/8" assassin frames and forks in stock in red, yellow and chrome!
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: fugazi on August 30, 2008, 04:28 PM
Another disappeared frame, the Standard Shaman, I'd love to get hold of that frame, seems they're like rocking horse poo......
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: Philbert on September 01, 2008, 07:20 PM
i know where there is one of them but he won't sell it. worst of all he's a chav!
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: fugazi on September 01, 2008, 08:48 PM
i know where there is one of them but he won't sell it. worst of all he's a chav!

Can't you tempt him with some trackie bottoms and some gangsta rap cd's? Kicking myself I didn't get an ox tubing One when they were still about  :(
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: se-bmxer on September 01, 2008, 08:53 PM
Shiner sill have the oversized 1.1/8" assassin frames and forks in stock in red, yellow and chrome!

Steve they haven't now only 1 chrome F&F left
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: oldschoolfreak on September 04, 2008, 05:20 AM
I wish this was my bike but it's not. I have wanted one of those bombshell f4 forks for a long time. Where have they all gone?(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m7/N20JUNKIE69/badassredman.jpg)
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Post by: Philbert on September 04, 2008, 03:30 PM
what about CCH, i think they did a race frame called the supercup

also cheetah race frames
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Post by: wirewheel on September 06, 2008, 08:18 PM
what about an s&m menstrual cycle? or jad.

 i have some peregrine super pro hubs with king axle washers the rear axle is  standard tho as the king seized to the nut cuz i didn't grease it :10_2_12: they are straight flanges but survivor condition. no stickers any offers i can sort pics,

 i icepicked everything on that rear hub with the standard axle for 6/7 years and nothing touched it, wore a few pegs out mind.

king stuff was bomb proof,

 joe rich rode a king liberty frame on road fools one, can anyone copy it for me? mine wore out or some git lifted it cheers. gotta see jimmy do that gap again
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Post by: SaMAlex on September 06, 2008, 09:56 PM
what about an s&m menstrual cycle?


 ::)


But it did take me a while to find one.
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: bmxer4ever on September 07, 2008, 11:00 AM
I wish this was my bike but it's not. I have wanted one of those bombshell f4 forks for a long time. Where have they all gone

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm struggling to see the point of those forks ...

Doesn't even look like a bmx!!  :LolLolLolLol:

I take it they are a LOT lighter than they look??


Post # 800...!
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: harris on September 07, 2008, 11:10 AM
they are as heavy as they look believe you me   :shocked: king axles and spacers are also fitted
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/pk016.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/pk018.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/new035-1.jpg)
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: oldschoolfreak on September 08, 2008, 05:29 AM
I wish this was my bike but it's not. I have wanted one of those bombshell f4 forks for a long time. Where have they all gone

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm struggling to see the point of those forks ...

Doesn't even look like a bmx!!  :LolLolLolLol:

I take it they are a LOT lighter than they look??


Post # 800...!
You should know. Those forks are pushing ten years old. And yes! They are a bmx fork. Compaired to todays carbon fibre forks you could call them dinosaurs. I would never use them on one of my race bikes. But id love to have one as an old collectable.
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Post by: wirewheel on September 08, 2008, 02:53 PM
best thing ever made in the 90s king axle washers combo.
 these are definitely survivors ice picked every wall in stoke on that rear axle and look how straight it is
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/c160/risetothunder/tc60011.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/c160/risetothunder/tc60012.jpg)
nice king forks lets see a frame
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: bmxer4ever on September 08, 2008, 10:50 PM
I wish this was my bike but it's not. I have wanted one of those bombshell f4 forks for a long time. Where have they all gone

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm struggling to see the point of those forks ...

Doesn't even look like a bmx!!  :LolLolLolLol:

I take it they are a LOT lighter than they look??


Post # 800...!
You should know. Those forks are pushing ten years old. And yes! They are a bmx fork. Compaired to todays carbon fibre forks you could call them dinosaurs. I would never use them on one of my race bikes. But id love to have one as an old collectable.

Why...?! :LolLolLolLol:
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Post by: oldschoolfreak on September 09, 2008, 06:21 PM
Why not....  Different strokes for different folks.
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Post by: dodger on September 11, 2008, 05:08 PM
primo power bite team edition race cranks came on late 90's hoffman flash team xl iv seen 2 and i own one of them anyone els?
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y201/dodger522/PICT3529.jpg)
ring now changed to a silver 43t sugino
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: OrgasmDonor on September 11, 2008, 06:14 PM
got to say, those triple forks fookin rock! id love some for my hawk :daumenhoch:

VG seat guts, how cool are these :daumenhoch: and why didnt any companies rip them off when VG ceased to exist?
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/n258/ODFLYER/100_0750.jpg)
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: the_cyclops on September 11, 2008, 10:17 PM
MK 1 Havoc Sprocket Pockets (the white ones)

Twenty Shin Pads

Backyard Pegs

Zima Frames

Beyond Bikes Frames

Defunct Clothing

Base Brooklyn pad sets

Clayborne frames

Funk Pelts Clothing

Hard Times Clothing

im sure theres more I just cant think of at the moment!
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: SaMAlex on September 11, 2008, 10:20 PM
MK 1 Havoc Sprocket Pockets (the white ones)
Hard Times Clothing


Thats a good list. I have 2 off it, although I should give Tim Ruck the Hard Times shirt (or maybe I have already?)
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: the_cyclops on September 14, 2008, 12:12 AM
Some more...

Ceramic Rabbit stuff

Homeless Soul Bro frames

Ozone frames

Chad Herrington parts

Emergency 900 stuff ( Emma Genc)

Haro Airmaster frames (did these all break?)

Go! Magazine

ACS RL edge 48s

Standard heat treated axles (mine still snapped!!!)


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Post by: woody allen bars on September 14, 2008, 07:27 PM

Homeless Soul Bro frames


 :-X
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Post by: Dingobmxer on September 14, 2008, 07:57 PM
what about CCH, i think they did a race frame called the supercup

also cheetah race frames

And Yess frames and forks
Santa Cruz Jackal 20" and 24"
Cannondale bmx's

araya Himniko and Super 7x rims


 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: christhejob on September 14, 2008, 08:22 PM


Standard heat treated axles (mine still snapped!!!)



Si you're telling porkies!! your barspin fastplant specialty can't have snapped an axle!!!
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: harris on September 14, 2008, 08:27 PM
rekka
standard handgrenades
tbh most stuffs getting a pain to find now   :-[
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: nomad on September 14, 2008, 08:31 PM
always wanted hand grenades, couldnt afford them thou, made my own pegs at school!
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: harris on September 14, 2008, 08:33 PM
it took me over 2 years to find 5 nos and 2 used and none came from the uk
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Post by: firebird4130 on September 14, 2008, 09:22 PM
How can you tell what is a genuine standard handgrenade?
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: bmxer4ever on September 14, 2008, 09:35 PM
rekka
standard handgrenades
tbh most stuffs getting a pain to find now   :-[

I had 2 pairs (brass?) on my Condor, then leant one to Davy C0ckerill (don't know if he still has it?!) then the back pair got nicked with my customised Badlander. No idea where the last one went!
They weren't cheap - £30 a pair?
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: nomad on September 14, 2008, 09:41 PM
more like 50 iirc?

also, gt dropnose padded seats, i want one of those for my Holmes
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: the_cyclops on September 15, 2008, 01:11 AM


Standard heat treated axles (mine still snapped!!!)



Si you're telling porkies!! your barspin fastplant specialty can't have snapped an axle!!!

Yeah Chris, but you try and do it with Emma Genc stood on the rear pegs   :crazy2:

Just to bring it back to topic....

Fuse Concepts

and those funky Anarchic Adjustment fleece hats like me and Grant Smith had  :-\
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: bmxer4ever on September 15, 2008, 07:30 PM
more like 50 iirc?

also, gt dropnose padded seats, i want one of those for my Holmes

Sorry - I think I got mine at trade price...!
Title: Re: mid school 'disappeared' parts...
Post by: nomad on September 15, 2008, 09:09 PM
what about UFO giros? couple mates had those and were the envy of the group lol. I had ditched the gyro by then, i could never get on with them!
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