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Title: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: bmxer4ever on September 07, 2008, 05:21 PM
New school gearing...

Is there an equivalence chart on the site?

What does 44/16 equate to when you downsize your chainring?
Currently runnin a 36/14  - what does that work out as?? Want to go smaller.

Lookin at doing an almost completely new bike, and thinkin of cassete hub, etc.

Help much appreciated..
G
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: harris on September 07, 2008, 05:24 PM
try this if you can work it out
http://forum.pijin.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: Dark Diggler on September 07, 2008, 05:25 PM
30/11
28/10
25/9

check brake clearance (if applicable) before you go small though  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: TwoBobRob on September 07, 2008, 05:31 PM
36/13  (which is what I'm running)  rides like 44/16, or very slightly taller.   Aside from that, what DD said   :daumenhoch:    It would seem that 28/10 is reliable and strong with no chain freakouts. I've heard of people running into drivetrain problems with 25/9, although these problems can all be sorted with a little work  :)
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: bmxer4ever on September 07, 2008, 05:40 PM
Framewise I'm torn between a Colony MVP, Hoffman Strowler  (the longer one - in yellow!) or UK bikes Evolution (the shorter one!) , all of which have seatstay mounted brakes - which I will be running - so I reckon if I go to 30/11 I shouldn't have a problem.
Opinions?

Thinkin' of ordering the ONLY pair of Colony MVP forks with brake lugs (or so they say!), from Alans this week.
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: harris on September 07, 2008, 05:42 PM
all sounds sweet to me   :)
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: TwoBobRob on September 07, 2008, 05:46 PM
Get the Colony setup, I always fancied a MVP......   30/11 will be no problem at all, especially if you're running a half link chain  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: bmxer4ever on September 07, 2008, 06:03 PM
Damn - I'm so undecided - the Strowler is the heavier of the three, but it's distinctive and YELLOW!
But the main point of me gettin' a new set up is to go lighter.
There's no point in me havin' lost a load of weight this year (really!) if I don't put the bike on a diet too!

Anyone know a good light stem w/gyro tabs that'll be strong enough for every knida ridin' ...? (Well, I don't do trails, but everything else!)

Cheers
G
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: TwoBobRob on September 07, 2008, 06:15 PM
I'm not a fan of the Oddy elementary stem personally, but aside from that I've not heard of any particularly bad stems. I have a Shadow stem which came with a gyro plate and that's been bulletproof so far.  How about checking out Standards new stuff, they must be doing a stem?
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: Dark Diggler on September 07, 2008, 06:24 PM
These are good http://www.allterraincycles.co.uk/product/111886.html  and light too  :shocked:

or sack the giro and fit a Nokon cable, good enough for 3 rotations if set up right  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: welsh denny on September 07, 2008, 07:16 PM
ive been running the demolition front loading f1 (or is it f40) stem. no probs here and its machined out so its light. dont know if it comes with gyro tabs though, just use the gyro plate.
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: bmxer4ever on September 07, 2008, 11:37 PM
These are good http://www.allterraincycles.co.uk/product/111886.html  and light too  :shocked:

or sack the giro and fit a Nokon cable, good enough for 3 rotations if set up right  :daumenhoch:

MUST have a gyro.....  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: bmxer4ever on September 07, 2008, 11:38 PM
ive been running the demolition front loading f1 (or is it f40) stem. no probs here and its machined out so its light. dont know if it comes with gyro tabs though, just use the gyro plate.

Tryin' to find somethin' so I CAN ditch the gyro plate....

The search continues...
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: Guillotte on September 07, 2008, 11:45 PM
My new ride will have 25/9 gearing but I might go with a bigger sprocket so I can pedal once or twice and be at speed :D

Should get here by Wednesday. I'm so stoked!
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: TwoBobRob on September 08, 2008, 12:04 AM
Counting the hours eh?  When did you last ride?
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: Guillotte on September 08, 2008, 01:47 AM
Counting the hours eh?  When did you last ride?

Went and rode at some event in Dallas in '91 I think but didn't enter. was getting 10 feet but just didn't feel right. Went to a local skatepark in '93 (Eisenberg's) and a public park in Tyler,TX around '95 I think but got a flat right away. After that, nowhere. It's been awhile  :D
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: TwoBobRob on September 08, 2008, 10:46 AM
So around 15 years or so then?   You'll be fine.  I had a 10 year gap and found my feet fairly quickly again. Others on here have had much, much longer layoffs - 22-25 years   :shocked:

Plus you could ride in the first place!

Just be careful on your very first few sessions bud, you don't want a big slam right at the start of your second wind  ;)

Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: wirewheel on September 08, 2008, 08:45 PM
just built a new ride and  went for 30/10 to go faster, yeah its good but i needed a half link chain to get it short at the back but that would depend on the frames rear length, great chain on street tho was worth getting for sure
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: bmxer4ever on September 08, 2008, 08:57 PM
These are good http://www.allterraincycles.co.uk/product/111886.html  and light too  :shocked:

or sack the giro and fit a Nokon cable, good enough for 3 rotations if set up right  :daumenhoch:

I think we have a winner!!!

THAT looks just the thing I'm after!

Thanks
G
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: DanCressy on September 09, 2008, 08:10 PM
thats one ugly jank ass stem.

36-10 is where its at, with 185 crank arms too, well fast.

44-16
42-15
39-14
36-13
33-12
30-11
28-10
25-9

if anyone still cares
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: bmxer4ever on September 09, 2008, 09:53 PM
thats one ugly jank ass stem.

36-10 is where its at, with 185 crank arms too, well fast.

44-16
42-15
39-14
36-13
33-12
30-11
28-10
25-9

if anyone still cares

Cool! That's just what I was after!
Thinkin' 30/11 with 175 or 180mm Profiles.
Can't have them too long for da skatepark y'know!
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: DanCressy on September 09, 2008, 10:51 PM
185 isnt really that long, i ride skateparks mostley (rom) and theyve been fine.
180;s should be fine though if yout worried, not too much different from 175 but just enough to notice it in speed i think.

but theres so many other things it depends on, i cant give you anything solid to go on. tyrepressure and size is a b ig part too, i try and use a thin hard tyre on the rearr
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: teamsano on September 10, 2008, 05:38 PM
gearing is simple maths.

44/16=2.75, now divide the amount of teeth(sprocket) into the amount of teeth in the freewheel, and find which is closest to 2.75

i'd personally avoid buying a colony frame, everyone i know whos had one has snapped it.

friemuths just ben dumped by them anyhow, so if you really want that frame itl'l be cheaper in a few weeks.

i also dont see any attraction to the ukbike company frame or whatever its called.
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: bmxer4ever on September 10, 2008, 09:57 PM
gearing is simple maths.

44/16=2.75, now divide the amount of teeth(sprocket) into the amount of teeth in the freewheel, and find which is closest to 2.75

i'd personally avoid buying a colony frame, everyone i know whos had one has snapped it.

friemuths just ben dumped by them anyhow, so if you really want that frame itl'l be cheaper in a few weeks.

i also dont see any attraction to the ukbike company frame or whatever its called.

Trust an old racer to come up with the simple answer!

Thanks for the heads up...

Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: magna13 on September 10, 2008, 10:07 PM
i either ride 33/13 or 25/9
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: bmxer4ever on September 10, 2008, 10:35 PM
185 isnt really that long, i ride skateparks mostley (rom) and theyve been fine.
180;s should be fine though if yout worried, not too much different from 175 but just enough to notice it in speed i think.

but theres so many other things it depends on, i cant give you anything solid to go on. tyrepressure and size is a b ig part too, i try and use a thin hard tyre on the rearr

I used to run 180's with a 45/16 gearing on my Condor - that was quick, and I got big legs too!
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: Stella Dave on September 17, 2008, 11:23 AM
I'll have 33/12 for sale very shortly mate, got BSD/ODY comin from ma pal 20Twenty
Title: Re: New school gearing...HELP!
Post by: subversion on September 17, 2008, 03:11 PM
Here's my mates Strowler running 25/11 dude:

http://subversionbmxblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/yo-fook-kevin-jones-man.html (http://subversionbmxblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/yo-fook-kevin-jones-man.html)

(you'll have to change the fook part in the address in your browser as RAD changes it!)

They're nicely turned out, not too flat/new skool/scooter :daumenhoch:
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