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Title: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: modfather on September 19, 2008, 12:33 PM
i bought myself a black spoked wheel for my quadangle 2008 but i didnt realise that the axle on my new wheels are 14mm would anyone know the size of axle that would fit on the quadangle and is it possible to swap the 14mm axle from my hub to a smaller size

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b201/irishkilt/SP_A0116.jpg)


Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: se-bmxer on September 19, 2008, 12:39 PM


retro quadangles are 10mm and the street/park Se Quadangles are 14mm axles
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: modfather on September 19, 2008, 12:46 PM
i guess that my quadangle tanned looptail would be a 10mm then the 14mm is too big to fit in. is it possible to swap axles over for a 10mm or?
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: se-bmxer on September 19, 2008, 12:49 PM
i guess that my quadangle tanned looptail would be a 10mm then the 14mm is too big to fit in. is it possible to swap axles over for a 10mm or?

not sure on the conversion never had 14mm axled wheels

where did you get the wheels from ?
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: modfather on September 19, 2008, 12:52 PM
got the wheels of t'ebay. i know its 14mm axel se formula hubs so was wondering if anyone got the same and if its possible to swap axles if not what a waste of a wheel for me  :-[
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: se-bmxer on September 19, 2008, 01:01 PM
was it a pair you brought ?

i suppose the only option is to re-hub the wheels if it cant be done
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: modfather on September 19, 2008, 01:04 PM
yeah bought a pair oh god re hubbing an all i give up lol this totally sucks! i will try and see if changing an axle will work but most likely not  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on September 19, 2008, 01:08 PM
 Think all the internal dims of the hub are designed for a 14mm axle.You could file the axles down to 10mm but be real careful...
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: modfather on September 19, 2008, 01:12 PM
i wouldnt wanna risk filing down the axle id rather  shoot myself
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: pickle on September 19, 2008, 01:25 PM
don't go shooting yourself.......my advice would be to bang em back up on egay, sell em for what you paid for em then buy some other ones with 10mm axels? 

by the way what did you pay for em?
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: modfather on September 19, 2008, 01:31 PM
thing is i really like this wheel just totally gutted it wont fit on my quadangle it got all i wanted black rims, black spokes, SE hubs but its worthless now lol i got it for 35 bargain for me always find a bargain
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: kdw712 on September 19, 2008, 01:36 PM
gotta be worth taking the your local decent bike shop and having a chat
they may well have a axle that will swap over
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: pickle on September 19, 2008, 01:49 PM
gotta be worth taking the your local decent bike shop and having a chat
they may well have a axle that will swap over

this is a good call........they will probably charge for the wheel build but it won't be much......have to admit though that if it were me?  i'd just file a bit off of each side to make em fit........are you only cruising on the Quad or going to race?
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: Wayne Ryder on September 19, 2008, 02:09 PM
Would slightly larger bearings hold the 10mm axle in place? Or is there in existence a set of cones & nuts that are the same outer diameter as they'd be for a 14mm wheel, but with a 10mm hole in the middle? Adaptor cones?
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: spesh on September 19, 2008, 02:33 PM
try a 10mm axle and cones with bb ball bearings if you have these bits lying around maybe worth a try?
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: modfather on September 19, 2008, 02:45 PM
gotta be worth taking the your local decent bike shop and having a chat
they may well have a axle that will swap over

this is a good call........they will probably charge for the wheel build but it won't be much......have to admit though that if it were me?  i'd just file a bit off of each side to make em fit........are you only cruising on the Quad or going to race?


was gonna build a daily rider to bash about in generally lol i would love to race but i live in belfast and all those races are held across the sea so too much faff for me.

i just looked at the hub i think you  would need a 10mm axle the same diameter to fit in so it wont wobble about
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: modfather on September 19, 2008, 02:49 PM
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b201/irishkilt/SP_A0117.jpg)

Here is the picture, is that silver thing which suports the bearing what you guys call a cone!?

i was wondering if i could get a 10mm axle with the cone thingy to fit the 10mm onto the hub will it work?
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: MartyC on September 19, 2008, 03:18 PM
Have a look at this page for servicing hubs...

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/cone-adjustment.html

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: Bigfrawg on September 19, 2008, 03:44 PM

why not just machine them flat just like on the peregrine phat jack hubs 10mm/14mm axles.
i also bought some of these wheels for my mongoose but i took a grinder to the dropouts. >:D
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: spesh on September 19, 2008, 03:50 PM
as i said try bigger ball bearings before you start grinding things
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: modfather on September 19, 2008, 04:58 PM
I went down to my mates, tried changing axles i put in a complete 10mm set with cone, dust cap etc it fits brilliantly so i will need to find where i can find a fresh set of  10mm axle kit with bolt nuts etc
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on September 19, 2008, 05:22 PM
 Try here?

http://www.customriders.com/prodlist.asp?a=cat&cat=2&parent=1001&sid=3&sort=3

http://www.customriders.com/prodlist.asp?a=cat&cat=1&parent=1001&sid=3&sort=3
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: modfather on September 19, 2008, 05:37 PM
cheers for the link heywoods  :coolsmiley: unfortunately i cant really find anything there or maybe am missing out summat lol would have been handy for a complete set
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on September 19, 2008, 05:58 PM
 Give `em a bell,sure they`ll be able to set you up with all you need.Never had any problems with them & they know their stuff..

http://www.cyclesportuk.co.uk/index.php?cPath=69_71

These have quite a bit of axle/hub spares too & are usually good price-wise.
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: modfather on September 19, 2008, 11:31 PM
Nice one ill give them a shout about it. iv seen 10mm coverter to a 14mm just wish it was vice versa
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: MartyC on September 20, 2008, 03:58 AM
Try www.billys.co.uk heaps of axles on there  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: steve on September 20, 2008, 01:54 PM
go and buy a flat file, with a serreted edge, from the pound shop
and take 2mm of each side

how you do it is thus
-file one side down to the required amount
then bolt it in the rear forks, so the wheel is sitting outside the frame - wheel nut inside the frame
-then you can get the same positioning as the side you first filed, as you have the stay to go by

-you will just need to buy a file from the pound shop, that is the same or slightly greater in thickness than your forks

however in the front, you will need to open the landing gears to 14mm, if you aint got 14mm ones
 :LolLolLolLol:
that will entail both a 14mm bit, and filing still, as you want a slot, for safety
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: modfather on September 20, 2008, 04:32 PM
LOL are you telling me that the landing gear forks needs a 14mm axle if yes perfect one done and just need to sort out the rear axle
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: MartyC on September 20, 2008, 04:47 PM
LOL are you telling me that the landing gear forks needs a 14mm axle if yes perfect one done and just need to sort out the rear axle

Nope, if it is an old school 1" set of Landing Gear Forks then a 3/8 or 10mm axle is required, same for the frame.  What you can do is file the 14mm axle down to fit  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: modfather on September 20, 2008, 04:49 PM
CRAP MAN!!  :-\ id rather give the axle to someone who could be able to do the job for me i would fook it up big time
Title: Re: Goddamn axle size for me wheel
Post by: Wayne Ryder on September 20, 2008, 10:21 PM
It's not hard to do, I've managed it twice so far and I'm a total bodger.
You're not taking metal off where it's needed for grinds, there's almost no up/down strength lost. Plus the axle can't spin in the fork's dropout so things don't work loose. Ever been turning the left-side nut for ages before realising the right-side one's going round too? Won't happen anymore.
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