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Title: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: adeshere on January 21, 2006, 02:37 AM
Just painting my shimano DX pedals after restoring them. This is my expensive paint room ... i.e. a box



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Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: adeshere on January 21, 2006, 02:38 AM
And then blue, just needs lacur now

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Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: danny silverstreak on January 21, 2006, 07:04 AM
quality  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: mivvi on January 21, 2006, 08:53 AM
  :LolLolLolLol: Its like an 'Old school BMX' pantomime! He's behind you.............Oh no he's not, hee, hee.  ;D


Good work fella!
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: dordymush on January 21, 2006, 02:26 PM
good idea.
get the piccys a bit bigger.
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: gmac on January 21, 2006, 02:37 PM
Click on 'em Dave  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: dordymush on January 22, 2006, 12:45 AM
oh  :crazy2:.
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: jT Racing on January 22, 2006, 03:00 PM
turner prize goes to adeshere for box booth box
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: Flaz on January 23, 2006, 04:50 PM
  :LolLolLolLol: Its like an 'Old school BMX' pantomime! He's behind you.............Oh no he's not, hee, hee.  ;D


Good work fella!

 :LolLolLolLol: neallly shited me self laughing then  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: Peanut on January 25, 2006, 05:34 PM
you could always do what I do, paint em in the kitchen then spend 3 hours panicking while you try and get rid of the smell before the wife gets back from work, then exclaim that even though you did it in the garden in the dark and freezing cold the smell always seems to waft everywhere.

Above all else look innocent at all times.

Just hoping she hasn't noticed her good kitchen knife that I used to strip the paint off me forks.
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: kusam on January 25, 2006, 11:03 PM
 :LolLolLolLol:

 ::)
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: adeshere on February 02, 2006, 09:42 PM
Well the pantomime is now over.

originally red with the paint removed, they transformed into nice smooth blue ones. Now i can finally finish building my first bike

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Post by: dordymush on February 02, 2006, 11:19 PM
they came out mint.
mine are a bit chewed up at the ends. was thinking of powdercoating them.
what was these like.
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: Peanut on February 03, 2006, 09:36 AM
wow, they look great, nice job there.
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: adeshere on February 03, 2006, 10:16 AM
Had to take a file and the wet&dry to them, especially the ends

Gave them 2 coats of white, and about 4 of the blue and then finally 1 coat of lacquer

they arn't quite the correct colour blue but will do
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: mivvi on February 03, 2006, 12:29 PM
adeshere, did you use rattle cans or a proper spray gun? Also, did you have to cut back any layers or t-cut etc. Whenever I spray items, they come out quite good but the slightest knock and the paint is off. Never seems to have a hard surface to the paint when I do it? They have come out mint mate, good work fella.
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: adeshere on February 06, 2006, 03:37 PM
I first took a file and wet'n'dry to the pedals to smooth the edges out and re-shape them a bit. I then cleaned them up. I then left them in the house before i sprayed them to let them warm up a bit as in the shed they get so cold.

I then hung them up and sprayed tehm first white. Got to make sure you dont put too much on at once uotherwise you get theose annoying drips !.

I gave them two coats of white and then about 4 coats of blue before a final coat of clear lacure


Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: adeshere on February 07, 2006, 12:30 AM
I used good old spray cans

This is what they allowed me to create

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/f194/adeshere/Woodies_BMX1.jpg)
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: mivvi on February 07, 2006, 11:24 AM
Top job on the pedals and the bike mate. Thanks for the info on the painting. Its nice to know you can get a finish like that with just cans! Im off to find my DXs then!  :D 
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: adeshere on February 08, 2006, 12:22 PM
Using my spray room !!!  meant there was no wind blowing the paint everywhere so i had more control on where it was going.

I closed the box (technical stuff this) when i finished to stop general dust and grime getting onto the paint before it dried
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: theRuler on February 08, 2006, 04:09 PM
adeshere, did you use rattle cans or a proper spray gun? Also, did you have to cut back any layers or t-cut etc. Whenever I spray items, they come out quite good but the slightest knock and the paint is off. Never seems to have a hard surface to the paint when I do it? They have come out mint mate, good work fella.

heat is the key

get the paint warm
leave the rattle cans on a radiator for an hour before using

also make sure the thing you are painting is warm too - airing cupboard job

if you can get the painted item back in the airing cupboard after, all the better. leave it a few days to harden (a week is best if possible)

or make a cardboard box that backs onto a radiator, sealing the heat onto the item (after painting)
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: Holmetech on February 08, 2006, 09:52 PM
Put your spray cans in a pan of boiling water and leave for 10mins.Warm the item that your spraying with a hairdryer while your waiting for the cans to warm up.Give the item 3 or 4 coats using hairdryer inbetween coats and for a few mins after you've finished spraying.If you get any bits in the paint,you can de-nib it with 2000's wet or dry then polish by hand with a cutting compound.Job done.
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: theRuler on February 08, 2006, 11:14 PM
a kettle of boiled water is good way to heat your rattlers too

heat is good . . .
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: mivvi on February 09, 2006, 08:12 AM
So its better to spray items in the summer really, unless I do them in the lounge! :D I think I will have a go at the radiator box idea, I didn't know that leaving the item for a few days/a week hardens it even more, cool. Like I said, im not bad at spraying and usually get a great finish but find I can easily dig my nail into the paint once it has been drying for a few days. Thanks for the info lads!
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: adeshere on February 09, 2006, 10:22 AM
You right, you not supposed to spray when its cold as it wont harden properly. I had my fan heater on whilst spraying to keep it warm.

Not tried warming the spray cans thou, but i did leave tehm indoors to make sure they were as toasty as my house
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: JJR on February 09, 2006, 09:06 PM
I also use a box, but i made a hole in the back and use my mothers vacumcleaner to keep the "spray fog" (don't know how to say) in the box  ;D
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: adeshere on February 10, 2006, 11:49 AM
This is gettig technical !!  ,, dust extraction as well    :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: adeshere on July 06, 2006, 10:20 PM
Well the spray booth is back in action, or is it pantomine time again !!

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/f194/adeshere/dx_spraywhite2.jpg)

going to be red this time
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: JT Smooth on July 06, 2006, 10:59 PM
This is all good stuff, will have to build myself a top spec cardboard
spray room.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: Preston Pirate on July 07, 2006, 11:19 AM
The key to a good hard finish is to spray lots of fine layers and let the paint cure between layers. If you do a couple of thick layers it takes ages for the solvent to evaporate from the paint and thus harden, hence you being able to dig your nail in after a couple of days. Heat is good too, it makes the paint thinner and apply better, and also if the item you're spraying is warm it helps the paint to go off quicker.

remember lots of fine layers...



So its better to spray items in the summer really, unless I do them in the lounge! :D I think I will have a go at the radiator box idea, I didn't know that leaving the item for a few days/a week hardens it even more, cool. Like I said, im not bad at spraying and usually get a great finish but find I can easily dig my nail into the paint once it has been drying for a few days. Thanks for the info lads!
Title: Re: Who needs an expensive spray room
Post by: Bananaman on July 07, 2006, 01:33 PM
What an excellent thread, thanks guys :daumenhoch:

I have been boloct stupid the last few weeks for gettin spray on the grass and the fence, nice one :daumenhoch:
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