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Title: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: adeshere on January 21, 2006, 11:48 PM
Is someone going to explain why some TA's have 'Skyway TA' on the downpipe and others have just 'Skyway'.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: jimwise68 on January 21, 2006, 11:54 PM
That is a good question.

I was thinking that the other day.

Who can shed some light?
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: 2020mad on January 21, 2006, 11:58 PM
I think it's a year thing, a bit like the curved and straight rear brake bracket tube, they just changed a bit with time.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Steve P on January 22, 2006, 12:10 AM
Chrome frames have "SKYWAY"

White frames have "SKYWAY TA"

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a217/steve167690/Skyway%20TA/SkywayTA_Ukais.jpg)

Hope this helps  ;)

Steve

Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: 2020mad on January 22, 2006, 12:21 AM
Not sure you're right there, but if you are there's a lot of bikes in the museum section with the wrong sticker sets on ???
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: billstup on January 22, 2006, 12:26 AM
Al ot of the bikes in the museum, including mine, have been re-powder coated and new stickers applied, so they may be the wrong stickers  :o
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on January 22, 2006, 12:29 AM
 he is right about the chrome just having the skway and not the T/A bit on the end.
i've still got the bmx action bike when the T/A was first tested.
and that just has skyway on the frame sticker.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: 2020mad on January 22, 2006, 12:33 AM
Now thats cofussed me even more. ???
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: billstup on January 22, 2006, 12:34 AM
Al ot of the bikes in the museum, including mine, have been re-powder coated and new stickers applied, so they may be the wrong stickers  :o

Having said that this is Jazzchimps nos T/A

I must admit they do rule! Here's my NOS boxed one for you delectation :daumenhoch:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v636/Jazzchimp/e26fa139.jpg)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: jimwise68 on January 22, 2006, 12:36 AM
I think they look much better with the simple Skyway sticker. Rather than having the additional TA part.

Everyone knows what they are so why bother advertisting. Keep it simple.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: billstup on January 22, 2006, 12:37 AM
I do remember Biagio listing different stickers for chrome and white before though, just can`t remember which was which  :idiot2:
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on January 22, 2006, 12:39 AM
lol what about the true temper sticker. where did that go.
i have'nt seen many with that on.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Steve P on January 22, 2006, 12:41 AM
I bought my TA decals from Biagio and his description mentioned that "SKYWAY TA" was for white and "SKYWAY" was for chrome

Just checked the Skyway site !!! CLICKETY CLICK !!! (http://people.freenet.de/SKYWAY/SKYWAYindex.html) and found these

(http://people.freenet.de/SKYWAY/TA2.jpg)

(http://people.freenet.de/SKYWAY/TA8.jpg)

"TRUE TEMPER" sticker goes at the bottom of the seat tube
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: 2020mad on January 22, 2006, 12:42 AM
I'm thinking alot of sticker changing going on in near future ;D
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on January 22, 2006, 12:44 AM
lol got to be era correct and all that  :D.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: jimwise68 on January 22, 2006, 12:45 AM
Just checked my unmolested chrome TA and there is no True temper sticker, just the one that says "All chome moly tube"
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on January 22, 2006, 12:47 AM
lol i think the true temper ones were on the early models.
could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on January 22, 2006, 12:49 AM
there on the 83 model in action bike.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: jimwise68 on January 22, 2006, 12:50 AM
how early.

Mine is an 83 number 426 that is quite early.

It has never been restored.

Not yet but it needs a rechrome. Next month it is gonna get a new suit and the stickers will be just as it was before it went in.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Steve P on January 22, 2006, 12:51 AM
I have owned my 1983 TA from new and it was originally chrome with the "SKYWAY" downtube decal and the "TRUE TEMPER" seat tube decal

Hopefully I have the correct downtube decal now or I'll have to go shopping again  :-\

Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: jimwise68 on January 22, 2006, 12:53 AM
Do you have a pic?
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Steve P on January 22, 2006, 12:55 AM
Not before I restored it I'm afraid . . . sorry !!!

It's been restored now and I chose white powder instead. A photo is in my 1st reply  ;)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: jimwise68 on January 22, 2006, 12:58 AM
Nice bike.

But I meant a pic of the true temper sticker.

Mine will be at rom tomorrow if anybody wants to compare.  ooooeer missus
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on January 22, 2006, 01:03 AM
you can just see it on that white frame set on the other page.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Steve P on January 22, 2006, 01:04 AM
This might help

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4646.0;attach=1452;image)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on January 22, 2006, 01:05 AM
that be the one.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Steve P on January 22, 2006, 01:08 AM
Here's a much better picture Dave . . . found it in another thread  ;)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y4/ASH13Y/ta.jpg)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on January 22, 2006, 01:11 AM
you got one with the T/A bit on.
i've got a scan but its the extra long ones everybodys got.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on January 22, 2006, 01:19 AM
alway handy to have steve mate.
that T/A looks well cool mate.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Steve P on January 22, 2006, 01:19 AM
Biagio has them for £7.50 + shipping

(http://vert-ego.com/SKYWAY%20TA%20DOWNTUBE%20DECAL.JPG)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on January 22, 2006, 01:20 AM
cheers mate.
i got to get me a T/A this year no matter what.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Steve P on January 22, 2006, 01:24 AM
Should look good next to your nice collection of Beats  :D
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on January 22, 2006, 01:26 AM
thats the missing link i need mate.
will have to wait till i get back in gear proper now chrimbo's gone and put a few quid away.
or should that nbe hide a few quid from the missus  ;).
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: 2020mad on January 22, 2006, 01:26 AM
cheers mate.
i got to get me a T/A this year no matter what.
 chrome,white or other?
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Steve P on January 22, 2006, 01:28 AM
thats the missing link i need mate.
will have to wait till i get back in gear proper now chrimbo's gone and put a few quid away.
or should that nbe hide a few quid from the missus  ;).

Go for the second alternative . . . works well for me  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on January 22, 2006, 01:29 AM
white with a bit of luck.
i like the all white freestyle versions neil and craig rode with the platform.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Steve P on January 22, 2006, 01:31 AM
Yeah . . . that'll look sweet  :D

I've just put white Tuffs on mine

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a217/steve167690/Skyway%20TA/SkywayTA.jpg)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: 2020mad on January 22, 2006, 01:31 AM
Sounds good :)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on January 22, 2006, 01:33 AM
it looks better with the tuffs on steve. finishes it off  :daumenhoch:.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Steve P on January 22, 2006, 01:42 AM
Well thank you kind sir . . .   ;)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: bodamus on January 22, 2006, 10:25 AM
I SECOND THAT I ALWAYS LIKE A TA WITH TUFFS ON.

NOW I WANNA GET ONE TOO :shocked:

FROM bodamus.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: toooldforthis on January 22, 2006, 04:11 PM
My one's a neglected  84, please note the true temper sticker  :4_17_5:

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Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: gmac on January 22, 2006, 04:14 PM
I reckon I'll leave my decals as they are. I like 'em like that  :)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d158/gmac-01/IMG_0258.jpg)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: retrogeezer on January 22, 2006, 04:40 PM
Well, don't want to upset the apple cart here but my original chrome TA clearly has Skyway TA on the decal...and the true temper decal. It's a July 84.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v614/retrogeezer1/IMG_2536.jpg)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: gmac on January 22, 2006, 06:06 PM
And this is mine before I had it stripped an powdered. They were the original decals, and are SKYWAY T/A, as you can see. Seems there's no golden rule for these after all ? ?

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d158/gmac-01/DSCF0663.jpg)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: wirewheel on January 22, 2006, 07:44 PM
i'm sure i have read or seen somewhere? that the TA has "skyway" on the sticker and the TA XL has "skyway ta" on the sticker.
 there are two sizes of the ta. although the XL version was introduced later than the original.
 i can't prove my explanation further.
further debating and investigation may ensue???????
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: billstup on January 22, 2006, 09:11 PM
Looks like they just put what decals they had to hand at the time then, the XL ones are quite common I`ve got a dozen or so about but I don`t think there anything to go by  ???
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: wirewheel on January 23, 2006, 01:26 PM
is there any contacts with skyway usa to obtain the truth of this affair?
someone must know, my theory just seemed a logical explanation
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: phantom photon on January 23, 2006, 01:31 PM
BITD one of the guys I used to run around with had a white Skyway TA from new. I'm 90% certain that it came with just the plain 'SKYWAY' sticker on the downtube. Believe me I spent alot of time looking at it as I was very jealous at the time  :)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dan-dare on January 23, 2006, 01:39 PM
retrogeezer and gmac are correct, as I know of another NOS chrome 84 with ta downtude decs ;D
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: wirewheel on January 23, 2006, 01:56 PM
i still think my length theory holds some weight is anyone going to measure some frames???
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Jazzchimp on January 23, 2006, 02:05 PM
My NOS TA is untouched (see Billstup's post on page 1) and they are the original stickers. I have a contact at Skyway but by the sounds of things they would probably have started off with 'Skyway' decals then moved on to the 'TA' ones they literally would have slapped on whichever ones thay had lying around - hence the inconsistancies...

but I will ask
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: wirewheel on January 23, 2006, 02:15 PM
that's cool, my theory is the skyway tA sticker is for the XL and skyway for the regular. it just seems logical to me
thats why all  the early ones got just skyway sticker cuz they are the original length frames
GET MEASURING or i'll need tamazepams by the bucketload :LolLolLolLol:
can't sleep at night thinking about bloody skyway stickers!
has anyone else lost sleep over this ?
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Waxintaxin on January 23, 2006, 02:49 PM
But XL frames had EXTRA LONG written on the sticker I do  belive

I say that they changed in around 84 ish to the TA decal on both chrome and white so most chrome would have SKYWAY , most WHITE would have TA and some would have either

Rich :)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: 2020mad on January 23, 2006, 04:40 PM
See 3rd post on page 1 of this thread :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: oberonspacefruit on January 23, 2006, 04:45 PM
extra long do have xl on them....


email skyway...they replied to me last time.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Bob_Acid on January 23, 2006, 04:55 PM
i'm going with what Bill said, i expect they just used the ones they had to hand i don't think it's an exact art.

The earliest TA's didn't have the true temper they had a black all chromoly tubing sticker, they were K serial numbered and made in Japan.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Frosty on January 23, 2006, 05:33 PM
Some answers can be seen on the advert topic here

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=6964.0
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: billstup on January 23, 2006, 06:33 PM
I`ve had a look at all of the pics of white T/As from bitd and it looks like they all have the sticker with the T/A on it, but I haven`t got any of chrome T/As as mine was stickerless  :o
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Bob_Acid on January 23, 2006, 06:35 PM
mine had the original stickers but someone had cut around the skyway on the downtube leaving a nice knife line
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: scary_leary on January 23, 2006, 09:35 PM
Whats the story with the different size for fork stickers?

i was lucky too get the smaller ones for my old blue ta

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v605/scary_leary/CopyofPicture2140.jpg)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: adeshere on January 24, 2006, 01:09 AM
Well i sent hte question to Skyway and go the following reply


Adrian:

Thanks for the email.

Good question.  I will check into it and let you know.

I used to race for Skyway and I know there was a difference between the original TA’s and the new versions.  The originals of course had the cool tear-drop tubing and the later versions did not.

Stay tuned.
Regards,

Rick
Skyway Wheels


Will let you know what he finds out  :)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Bob_Acid on January 24, 2006, 02:20 PM
Bart at Skyway had absolutely no idea that the first run were made in Japan and said the K numbered ones were probably fakes till i showed him the pictures of mine and one of the guys from vintage found the original test of the bike which has the details so i doubt you'll have much luck from them.

the smaller fork stickers you had are handle bar stickers Scary
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: scary_leary on January 24, 2006, 03:20 PM

the smaller fork stickers you had are handle bar stickers Scary

lol...is that what they are..

theres a few bikes in vintage's musuem with them..Chris Barons is one of them
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Bob_Acid on January 24, 2006, 03:49 PM
probably the same thing mate, if they ran out of fork stickers that day they stuck bar ones on
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: adeshere on January 24, 2006, 08:30 PM
The answer i got was :

Adrian:

The frames with the Skyway Only are the older version from the early 80’s.

Cheers,
Rick
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: retrogeezer on January 24, 2006, 08:55 PM
mine had the original stickers but someone had cut around the skyway on the downtube leaving a nice knife line

Ha, I remember pointing that out to you at Slough Bob, must have been 4 years ago.....do you remember??

Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: 2020mad on January 25, 2006, 12:29 AM
page1 :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Bob_Acid on January 25, 2006, 03:56 PM
i do indeed mate ;)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: jimwise68 on January 25, 2006, 05:16 PM
Well i sent hte question to Skyway and go the following reply


The originals of course had the cool tear-drop tubing and the later versions did not.


If they later TAs didn't have tear drop tubing would they be TAs? What shape are they?

This thread is getting more questions than answers!!   :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Bob_Acid on January 25, 2006, 06:10 PM
in a test we dropped both types of frame off the top of a tall building and they both hit the ground at the same time. That's the royal we by the way  :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dial8d on January 26, 2006, 07:06 PM
my white TA f&f that i bought new bitd definately had the TA stickers, and i always thought it was only the white ones which di, but seems as though its a bit of a lottery.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Bob_Acid on January 26, 2006, 10:00 PM
Well all the evidence does seem to point to the facts. So, even if it wasn't an exact art, they did seem to use different stickers on the white ones to the chrome ones when they could. Interesting stuff, you learn something new every day here on RADBMX.  :daumenhoch:

does anyone have that add; race, freestyle or street? i think it has a couple of white ones and a chrome one, does that show the stickers?

Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: phantom photon on January 27, 2006, 02:38 PM
Just to add to the thread here are a couple of pics both from 1984 showing chrome TA's with "Skyway TA" stickers   :)  (the 2nd pic is an XL - not sure about the 1st)

(http://www.maj.com/gallery/bodderick/General/file0123.jpg)

(http://www.maj.com/gallery/bodderick/General/file0124.jpg)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on April 11, 2006, 07:26 PM
lol sorry to bring this back.
but we never did get to the bottom of it  ;D.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Bob_Acid on April 11, 2006, 08:03 PM
I thought we did, they used whatever they had to hand?
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: oberonspacefruit on April 11, 2006, 08:10 PM
i love skyway. i want to marry it.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on April 11, 2006, 10:09 PM
Quote
I thought we did, they used whatever they had to hand?

and me but them stickers on scarys blue T/A's forks was'nt the handle bar stickers as i've just had a set of maurice meyer and there not like them at all.
there printed on both sides so they wrap round the bars both sides
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Tefore on April 11, 2006, 10:12 PM
Quote
I thought we did, they used whatever they had to hand?

and me but them stickers on scarys blue T/A's forks was'nt the handle bar stickers as i've just had a set of maurice meyer and there not like them at all.
there printed on both sides so they wrap round the bars both sides

plop me dave did not realise you had them ones they is rare
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on April 11, 2006, 10:19 PM
he sent me some for my orange beats bars paulio.
as i had fork ones on my bars and he noticed em lol.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: oberonspacefruit on April 11, 2006, 10:24 PM
oooh hark at you an maurice up a tree........k.i.s.s.i.n.g
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on April 11, 2006, 10:56 PM
eh mate posh i am  ;D.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Bob_Acid on April 12, 2006, 10:43 AM
Dave go back a page and look at the ad posted by phantom, there you have your scary fork stickers on a pair of bars.   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dordymush on April 12, 2006, 11:33 AM
heres the bar stickers and the fork ones.did you cut the ones you put on the forks then lee ?.

(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v229/dordymush/PIC_0223.jpg)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: David on April 14, 2006, 09:13 PM

I say that they changed in around 84 ish to the TA decal on both chrome and white so most chrome would have SKYWAY , most WHITE would have TA and some would have either

Rich :)

I subscribe to this theory too.

My chrome 84 had the "skyway TA" decal and the smaller fork decals which scary picked up on.

I brough this whole issue up on vintagebmx years ago.

I discovered them guys don't know fvcking sh!t and nor does bart or skyway.






Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: oberonspacefruit on April 14, 2006, 10:13 PM
perhaps they didnt think people would be picking over it with a microscope twenty years later.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: David on April 15, 2006, 12:12 AM
I don't mind 'em not knowing, it's the crap they come out with...

Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: munners on June 23, 2009, 08:25 PM
Mine back in 84 was white and had a Skyway TA decal. ;)
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Redline on June 23, 2009, 08:42 PM
I bought my white TA NEW in 83 and still have it. It's a K series serial, curved brake bridge and has TA on the downtube but....

it wasn't an all in one sticker and seems to be made up using a standard downtube decal and a seat tube "TA" decal.

It has no TrueTemper decal, just an "All Chrome Moly Tube" decal in BLACK. The typeface is a lighter weight than the blue versions that come with the Skyway sticker sets kickin around today!

.... and another spanner to throw in too....

It's a white TA but is chrome plated underneath  :-\

.... so were all the white TA's chrome underneath or what????

J
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: munners on June 23, 2009, 08:47 PM
Maybe yours was painted white by the shop? The two part decals could confirm this. Mine deffo wasnt chrome underneath.
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on June 23, 2009, 08:49 PM
Maybe yours was painted white by the shop? The two part decals could confirm this. Mine deffo wasnt chrome underneath.


cos yours was a burner nick
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Redline on June 23, 2009, 08:58 PM
Maybe yours was painted white by the shop? The two part decals could confirm this. Mine deffo wasnt chrome underneath.

Possible I guess... but the guy at the shop I bought it from was pretty lame and I can't see him having the patience or skills to go to all that trouble  :-\

J
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dannywhiteley on June 23, 2009, 09:58 PM
I thought the K series curved bridge TA's were the Jap made early ones and they were all chrome?
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Redline on June 23, 2009, 10:01 PM
I thought the K series curved bridge TA's were the Jap made early ones and they were all chrome?

Dunno.... ya got me fella - Im non the wiser to all of this  :idiot2:

J
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: Bob_Acid on June 24, 2009, 03:45 AM
it is chrome under the white  ???

Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: dannywhiteley on June 24, 2009, 11:08 AM
Overstock of the early framesets then as the white TA was released?

Or a bike shop had a few left and painted them up white, afterall white was (and still is) cooler (and I have a chrome one).
Title: Re: Skyway TA stickers
Post by: munners on June 24, 2009, 11:15 AM
Ive had loads of original white ones and they definitely didnt have chrome underneath.

I stripped one using Gasket remover and there was no chrome present.

Interesting. I had a NOS chrome one that had the fork decals upside down on one side!

I honestly dont think that there was a perfect logic as to how things were done bitd.
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