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Title: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2-Finished
Post by: sweetbeats on October 17, 2008, 02:16 PM
This has been a few weeks in the making (8 ish)and a labour of retro bmx love..I will do a proper photo shoot when I fit the chainring and get the shotgun saddle...Big thanks to ROMBLOKE for initial guidance when I was a newbie and for delivering such a cool site,Phippsio (frameset and lovely tuffs)top man and always on hand to help out,Del for being a total gent of the highest order,Harorider(chief polisher and powerdisc provider),Davevilla(super deal on the panaracers),Paul Clarkson(shimano's),phantom Photon(plate),munners(levers),The Styler-DC Clamp,Kuwahero DC cables,Inna Tubes,Izumi chain and Cranks,Flex Fighter and shotgun2- Biagio, if I have forgot anyone sorry...whoops se bmxer minty oakley provider and sparky for the chainring.
For the pics I used my haro vectors they will be taken off and replaced with my vector vc10 as they are my favourite bars and feel better to ride.

Ill do a proper parts thing when it is complete and post some better pics Enjoy Jason :daumenhoch:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ll418/jasonscottpics/DSC00512.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ll418/jasonscottpics/DSC00820.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ll418/jasonscottpics/DSC00939.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ll418/jasonscottpics/DSC00934.jpg)
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Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: munners on October 17, 2008, 02:22 PM
Like it mate. ;)

My friend is building a white Master with blue tuffs.

How can you tell what Gen it is?

 :4_17_5:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: Mattdub on October 17, 2008, 02:24 PM
Very nice so far & good to see a plate on a freestyle bike  :daumenhoch: .

If you can remove the reflectors on the pedals even better  ;) .
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 17, 2008, 02:25 PM
Coaster mount is different and rear triangle too munners,
Thanks for the levers!
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: harris on October 17, 2008, 02:25 PM
like that
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 17, 2008, 02:26 PM
Very nice so far & good to see a plate on a freestyle bike  :daumenhoch: .


Cheers Matt..I have some transparent ties which i will use in the proper pics the black ones suck ;)

P.S I love reflectors :4_17_5: they rock...i will take em off for the proper shots.
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 17, 2008, 02:28 PM
like that


Cheers harris :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: Stodgy on October 17, 2008, 02:30 PM
Looking sweet dude!

As Matt says, I like a freestyle bike with a plate on...in 84 & 85 everyone ran one in comps...they just look right.

Oh and yep drop the reflectors off those pedals.

Nice first build Mr. Sweets. Good work.

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 17, 2008, 02:41 PM
Looking sweet dude!

As Matt says, I like a freestyle bike with a plate on...in 84 & 85 everyone ran one in comps...they just look right.

Oh and yep drop the reflectors off those pedals.

Nice first build Mr. Sweets. Good work.

 :daumenhoch:

Cheers Stodgy..plates are the way forward..the tech plate is nos as well...well it was until now :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: Mattdub on October 17, 2008, 02:44 PM
Looking sweet dude!

As Matt says, I like a freestyle bike with a plate on...in 84 & 85 everyone ran one in comps...they just look right.

Oh and yep drop the reflectors off those pedals.

Nice first build Mr. Sweets. Good work.

 :daumenhoch:

the tech plate is nos as well...well it was until now :LolLolLolLol:

 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: CD17 on October 17, 2008, 02:50 PM
Like it mate. ;)

My friend is building a white Master with blue tuffs.

How can you tell what Gen it is?

 :4_17_5:

Gen 1 & Gen 2 are Torker made, Gen 1 has the rear like a Gen 1 Freestyler, coaster mount under the chainstay.

Gen 2 has tapered chain & seat stays & coaster mount on top of the chainstay.

Gen 2 & Gen 3 are very similar, but Gen 3 has Chevrons stamped in Gusset & the coaster anchor is a little bigger + the serial numbers  :daumenhoch:

Nice build by the way  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on October 17, 2008, 02:51 PM
 :daumenhoch: Very,very nice.
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 17, 2008, 02:58 PM
Cheers Fellas


In 1984 Haro added the name Master to its top of the line freestyle bike. The bike remained basically unchanged from the ’82-‘83 Freestyler except for 3 key changes. The bottom bracket shell was now machined for added strength. The headtube gusset was welded solid and there is a chainstay gusset added behind the bottom bracket shell. The other difference was Haro added bold new graphics to their lineup. This bike was also made by Torker in the US. The serial number format for this bike was as follows: T which stood for Torker followed by two letters which was a date code followed by the four digit production sequence followed by an F which stood for freestyle. This serial number is located on the inside of the right rear drop out. This bike is considered a 1st generation 84 Master.

The 2nd generation 84 Master was also made by Torker in the US and had several distinguishing features from the 1st generation ‘84 Master. From the seatmast forward the bike is identical to a 1st generation Master. From the seatmast back it is completely different. The differences are the seatstays and chainstays taper toward the rear dropouts. The coasterbrake tab has been relocated to the top of the chainstay and the rear dropouts are flared at the bottom to reduce flexing. The serial number format for this bike is as follows: T which stood for Torker, the month of production, the year ‘84, followed by the four digit production sequence, and letter M which stood for Master. The serial number is located on the inside of the right rear dropout.

The 3rd generation ‘84 Master is often referred to as an overseas ‘84 Master. This bike is similar to the 2nd generation ‘84 Master except the seatmast is about ½ inch taller and there are “chevrons” stamped in the headtube gusset. The serial number format for this bike is as follows: the year ‘84, month of production, followed by the four digit production sequence. The serial number is located underneath the bottom bracket. The coasterbrake tab was also beefed up on this model as well. These bikes were offered in a Chrome or white finish. In ’84 the Master bike retailed for $325!
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: magna13 on October 17, 2008, 03:14 PM
wow, one of my favorite haros there :4_17_5: :smitten: :4_17_5: :smitten:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: Del on October 17, 2008, 03:21 PM
You already know what I think of your Master Jason, it a stunning build, well worth waiting for.

Now someone please sell him a shotgun2! :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 17, 2008, 03:26 PM
You already know what I think of your Master Jason, it a stunning build, well worth waiting for.

Now someone please sell him a shotgun2! :LolLolLolLol:

Haha cheers Del...i am pleased with it now seeing it together (almost)...as you know I was a bit worried it would look shite after deciding against a factory copy :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 17, 2008, 03:28 PM
Looks alright I suppose :D

just needs a blue shotgun2 seat  :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:

Bru  :daumenhoch:

I think I might get a really toss burner saddle just to mess the whole trailer tramp up ;D
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 17, 2008, 03:34 PM
wow, one of my favorite haros there :4_17_5: :smitten: :4_17_5: :smitten:

Cheers Magna - jason
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 17, 2008, 03:48 PM
Cheers Bru..appreciated...I had planned to do a factory replica but one was done recently so had to go back to the drawing board...was going to sack it off to be honest as it was getting on my tits but Del inspired me to complete it.
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: Del on October 17, 2008, 04:06 PM
well actually, I said it was a sack of cack and offered him £50 plus a couple of mighty fine decals for the lot... needless to say his reply was something like "fook off, I'd rather build it then sell it to you!"

Some people! ::)
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 17, 2008, 04:13 PM
well actually, I said it was a sack of cack and offered him £50 plus a couple of mighty fine decals for the lot... needless to say his reply was something like "fook off, I'd rather build it then sell it to you!"

Some people! ::)


Haha...class :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: dix on October 17, 2008, 05:05 PM
 :)looks good well done  8) :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 17, 2008, 05:07 PM
:)looks good well done  8) :daumenhoch:

Cheers Dix :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: DIRTBIKER250F on October 17, 2008, 06:07 PM
Yep keep coming back to have a look, very nice Jason  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 17, 2008, 06:11 PM
Yep keep coming back to have a look, very nice Jason  :4_17_5:


Cheers Dirtbiker :)
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: bmxmatt1974 on October 17, 2008, 06:23 PM
tis very nice mate   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: southern andy on October 17, 2008, 06:26 PM
Scrummy that is, i'm not the biggest Freestyle bike fan in the world but i have to admit that looks the dogs danglies that does.

I think you will have done Dom proud in that build mate. :4_17_5:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 17, 2008, 06:27 PM
 :daumenhoch:
tis very nice mate
 

 :daumenhoch: Cheers Matt !!
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 17, 2008, 06:30 PM
Scrummy that is, i'm not the biggest Freestyle bike fan in the world but i have to admit that looks the dogs danglies that does.

I think you will have done Dom proud in that build mate. :4_17_5:


Cheers Andy,Dom was a great help and I promised him I would do the frameset justice ( in the end )...been sending him pics as I went along and pestering him with PM's along the way :)
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: HARODAVE on October 18, 2008, 01:22 AM
Its looking very nice so far Jason ..... the blue tuffs look superb , you don`t see enough bikes with them on i.m.h.o ...can`t wait to see it when its all done ..top job fella! :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 18, 2008, 01:58 AM
Its looking very nice so far Jason ..... the blue tuffs look superb , you don`t see enough bikes with them on i.m.h.o ...can`t wait to see it when its all done ..top job fella! :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:

Cheers Dave really appreciate that mate :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: MartyC on October 18, 2008, 02:07 AM
Hey Jason, that looks very sweet and deffo a tidy build  :daumenhoch:

Good job that man  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 18, 2008, 07:30 AM
Hey Jason, that looks very sweet and deffo a tidy build  :daumenhoch:

Good job that man  :4_17_5:


Ah cheers MartyC I was expecting it to look poop to be honest..too many ideas/changing the plans/missing out on parts all at 1 time or something like that,just want it finished then get my teeth into building a hutch :)
Did you get sorted for some vc's?You know they make sense :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master Gen2
Post by: 1984haro on October 19, 2008, 06:34 PM
Like it mate. ;)

My friend is building a white Master with blue tuffs.

How can you tell what Gen it is?

 :4_17_5:The 2nd generation 84 Master was also made by Torker in the US and had several distinguishing features from the 1st generation ‘84 Master. From the seatmast forward the bike is identical to a 1st generation Master. From the seatmast back it is completely different. The differences are the seatstays and chainstays taper toward the rear dropouts. The coasterbrake tab has been relocated to the top of the chainstay and the rear dropouts are flared at the bottom to reduce flexing. The serial number format for this bike is as follows: T which stood for Torker, the month of production, the year ‘84, followed by the four digit production sequence, and letter M which stood for Master. The serial number is located on the inside of the right rear dropout.

The 3rd generation ‘84 Master is often referred to as an overseas ‘84 Master. This bike is similar to the 2nd generation ‘84 Master except the seatmast is about ½ inch taller and there are “chevrons” stamped in the headtube gusset. The serial number format for this bike is as follows: the year ‘84, month of production, followed by the four digit production sequence. The serial number is located underneath the bottom bracket. The coasterbrake tab was also beefed up on this model as well. These bikes were offered in a Chrome or white finish. In ’84 the Master bike retailed for $325!
Title: Re: My First Build-Haro Master (Torker) Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 20, 2008, 03:15 PM
Now with chain ring cheers Sparky...shotgun saddle in the post should complete by wednesday :4_17_5:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ll418/jasonscottpics/DSC00870.jpg)
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: FAZE3 on October 20, 2008, 07:33 PM
Superb build fella, arguably the best frame ever made >:D

Then I would say that, mine looks very similar, the best colour scheme ;D
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 20, 2008, 07:50 PM
Cheers Fella... :daumenhoch:
Tried to be a bit more orig than a factory copy :)
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: Steve P on October 20, 2008, 09:19 PM
Very, very nice ... I've always like the Master  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 20, 2008, 09:21 PM
Cheers Steve almost done... :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: Bettyswallocks on October 20, 2008, 09:52 PM
Quality....  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 20, 2008, 10:00 PM
Cheers Fella...appreciated ;)
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: steve Beech TA on October 21, 2008, 06:13 AM
Superb build, mate :4_17_5:, in more than one way  ;) it captures the moment :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 21, 2008, 06:53 AM
Cheers Fella...much appreciated ;)
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: antiquebmx on October 21, 2008, 07:11 AM
nice build there!   do like blue tuffs, with the white frame.   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 21, 2008, 07:17 AM
Cheers AntiqueBMX...I thought they would look rubbish but they have grown on me to be honest and in natural light really are a great colour the indoor pics don't do them justice...my girlfriend says they are the best wheels she has ever seen so hey she knows best ;D
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: antiquebmx on October 21, 2008, 07:24 AM
yeah post some pics out in the sun  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 21, 2008, 07:32 AM
Fingers crossed we get some sun towards the end of the week :)

Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: FAZE3 on October 21, 2008, 04:55 PM
Yeah like I said fella love the master ;) I had a gen 2 back in the day, for about a week then it broke :'( So by the time my replacement arrived I got a GEN 3 :shocked: Anyways thats what I rode for the next three years, absolutely for me the definitive 80's BMX. You can see mine on the Credit crunch post in the freestyle section ::) Can't believe I actually thought about selling it for a few days last week :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 21, 2008, 05:47 PM
Cool comments cheers Faze three...it does look very retro and almost era specific tried to make it look like some spoilt kids haro bike that my parents could not afford to buy BITD..had some cool bikes but would have loved this in 84.
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: FAZE3 on October 21, 2008, 07:37 PM
When I think back to what the Master cost in 84 :shocked: Me ma was paying it off on her credit card for years :-[

I've paid her back now mind..............................................................................she loves her Hutch Trickstar ;D
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 21, 2008, 08:25 PM
 :4_17_5:
mum's rock !
If she has a us trick ill drop her a pm :D
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: skyway_dude on October 21, 2008, 11:16 PM
Thats a mighty fine job Jay :daumenhoch:
One of the best Master's on the site Bro.
Now get your missus to put them on heels on and her arse on the shotgun and you have perfection :smitten: :smitten:
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 21, 2008, 11:27 PM
Cheers James fella hopefully it inspires you to put your master together as well..you know it makes sense...i might get her to model the red boots for the gallery..very long...very shiny and 5.5 heels :smitten:  :D

Drop you a mail over the next few days dude been bmxhectic getting the last few bits together :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: stu27 on October 22, 2008, 06:33 AM
only just seen it jase,cracking build :smitten:,if my next build :4_17_5: is half as good as that i will be happy
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2
Post by: sweetbeats on October 22, 2008, 07:23 AM
Cheers Sam :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2-Finished (apart from chain
Post by: sweetbeats on October 22, 2008, 04:48 PM
Seat sorted,get her chain on tomorrow and off she goes :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2-Finished (apart from chain)
Post by: greentoad on October 23, 2008, 06:18 PM
Hi,

That's come out very well, you must be chuffed.

Sorry (hope I'm not being -ve) :-[ ......Spin the logo's on the tyres centrally over the valve, and some (blue) dustcaps? (me being anal)

Sweet ride though.

J.
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2-Finished (apart from chain
Post by: sweetbeats on October 23, 2008, 06:21 PM
Haha nothing anal about that :D
Yeah it needs a few tweeks here and there :daumenhoch:
Having headset problems right now..just hoping the ?%$$ing forks arent threaded :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2-Finished (apart from chain)
Post by: jT Racing on October 25, 2008, 03:42 PM
that's got some nice bit's on it ;)
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2-Finished (apart from chain
Post by: telelogic on October 25, 2008, 05:50 PM
what a beauty :smitten:

doesn't matter how many bike you have,
you'll always secretly want the one that you pined after at the start of it all :daumenhoch:

I'll definitely do a Haro next.
Title: Re: My First Build-84 Haro Master (Torker Built) Gen2-Finished (apart from chain
Post by: sweetbeats on October 25, 2008, 05:55 PM
what a beauty :smitten:

doesn't matter how many bike you have,
you'll always secretly want the one that you pined after at the start of it all :daumenhoch:

I'll definitely do a Haro next.


That is true...fella this and a gen1 where the dreamboats for me BITD :daumenhoch:

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