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Old School BMX 1980 - 1988 => Old School Race (riders ready, pedals ready... GO!!) => Topic started by: kusam on January 22, 2006, 07:56 PM
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Least I think it's called a brake bridge....
after my thread on my old laser lite, I realised that although it has dia-compe brake lever, the actual brake is a Weinmann (what's that all about....I didn't like them!). Have looked at this pic on Jamies Kuwahara site - http://www.dreamgate.ne.jp/kuwahara/mybikes/laserlite_37.jpg
the brake bridge appears to be solid with holes in.....mine looks like it has snapped or been adapted as I don't have the holes....just the arcs of the holes...god knows how the brake manages to stay attached.
Here's a pic, just tested crap camera and it works again.
Is there any reason why this piece of the bike will have been removed? Can't see it having snapped off
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y119/KuSam/KuBB1001.jpg)
Am sure I had brakes like the one on that other pic....perhaps that was on my other bike. :(
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Obviously, I have no idea what I'm on about, but that looks correct to me; I'd say the shape of that is just a little distinguishing feature. :) The centre bolt does all the work, and that little thin bridge would have buckled under braking pressure if it were a problem..
Maybe they beefed it up on a later/different model?
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sam get a pic of the whole bike on ;)
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I will do....but needs to be outside in the daylight...
Damn....why does my camera decide to work again just as a nice re-chromed Ku pic has been posted....
Twobob, hmm....maybe it was beefed up later on....but the finish on it doesn't feel smooth
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Sam ,
If my memory serves me correctly we all used the Weinmann style brakes on 1.3/8 wheels because of the short throw of the brake , 1.3/8 wheels were overall a larger diameter.
Dunno about the bridge though :-\
Matt
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Sam ,
If my memory serves me correctly we all used the Weinmann style brakes on 1.3/8 wheels because of the short throw of the brake , 1.3/8 wheels were overall a larger diameter.
Matt
Ahh..thank you....that explains that
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have you had a look at jamie's kuwaraha site - its in the links section
it may help on the brake bridge mod or standard question
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kdw.....yes.....included a link to a pic of a brake bridge on his site in my post :)
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lol ::)
i must learn to read eh !!!
i'll get my coat .............
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it looks like it has been cut away to enable you to get the wheel further forward in the frame :o
maybe it was modified lkke this so you could shorten the rear end a little? :-\
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As Danny says, put a pic up of the whole bike, also the rear dropouts. The brake bridge does not look like a tange one, could have been mod'd after purchase!!
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Maybe it's a combination of Mattdubs answer and Showtimes....something to do with using skinnys. I will take some pics in the morning. The serial number is T3H1472...wassat mean then? Same policy as Mongooses?
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Yep - it has definitely been modded - it should be a flat bridge with the centre hole for the caliper bolt and then a big hole either side.
Skinnies have a larger overall diameter so that is almost certainly the reason.
Someone else post a pic of their laserlite brake bridge - there are enough around!
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Oh yeh, T3H1472 means Tange, 1983, August. no 1472.
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I thought so Retro. Thanks :)
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Does the plate look like it was added after the frame was chromed? Also worth looking at the position of the plate, some are welded on top of the seat stays and others are welded in the middle of the stays. As in the pic below
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y91/frosty_paul/laserliteandotherchainstays.jpg)
It may be worth getting one of the folk with a mini to post some pics up, just to see what was done for bikes designed for running the skinny's. It may be one of those bridges transferred to your ride.
Regards
Paul
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Looking at a pic of the brake bridge on Jamies Ku site, it does look how mine should have looked before it was violated with a hack saw. I can tell by running my finger round it now that it has been hacked at. :'( :'( :'( :'(
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There was a replica kuwahra laserlite that came out after the original, it was a really cheap version made by a company that even imitated the decals, and they got caught out and basically shut down. I am sorry to say that looking at your brake bridge you never had a laserlite. It was a copy; basically it was a £10.99 frame being sold for £179 bitd. Ouch I know it must really hurt to know that after all this time you never had an original. Oh well, one good think has come out of this, I am only messing with your head, so you can breath easy now and laugh at my really poor joke. I can actually he3ar the sigh of relief now. LOL
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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lol
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I got skinny's on my laserlite and theyt fit nicely. I do have to run a really short caliper (weinmann 810 or shimano) to have a brake on it. Seems a bit drastic, cutting the brake bridge instead of getting a shorter brake. Some dads have lots to answer for " new caliper, new chain, NO WAY son, pass me that hack saw i'll have it sorted in a minute and don't argue with your father" . Woh, was like being home again for a moment. Shame it's been bastardised. guess you got a laser extralite now.
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Frosty
are both the bikes in your pic Laserlites?
the one on the left seems to be quite different from all the Lasers i've seen ???
the brake bridges were all (as far as i was aware) all welded between the tubes like in the picture i'm posting below (from Jamies site, 84 with logo on left & 83 without on right) plus the chainstays looke like that have been bent too sharply & join the BB too far out! i've looked on all my Kuwies plus some pics from the net & none seem to be that far out on the BB :-\
(http://www.dreamgate.ne.jp/kuwahara/mybikes/84_05.jpg)
not calling it a fake but it looks quit different even just from that one pic ???
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There was a replica kuwahra laserlite that came out after the original, it was a really cheap version made by a company that even imitated the decals, and they got caught out and basically shut down. I am sorry to say that looking at your brake bridge you never had a laserlite. It was a copy; basically it was a £10.99 frame being sold for £179 bitd. Ouch I know it must really hurt to know that after all this time you never had an original. Oh well, one good think has come out of this, I am only messing with your head, so you can breath easy now and laugh at my really poor joke. I can actually he3ar the sigh of relief now. LOL
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
:tickedoff: :rant: :tickedoff:I got skinny's on my laserlite and theyt fit nicely. I do have to run a really short caliper (weinmann 810 or shimano) to have a brake on it. Seems a bit drastic, cutting the brake bridge instead of getting a shorter brake. Some dads have lots to answer for " new caliper, new chain, NO WAY son, pass me that hack saw i'll have it sorted in a minute and don't argue with your father" . Woh, was like being home again for a moment. Shame it's been bastardised. guess you got a laser extralite now.
Am not happy :'(
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Showtime...where's the pics?
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Showtime...where's the pics?
good point ::)
been back & added the pic, straight from Jamies site ;)
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Showtime,
You're right and I personally share your thoughts on the frame above. The chainstay point I have raised before, but you'll see below the complete frame that is decal'd up as a Kuwi I just think someone is taking the p*ss. They are convinced these are genuine Kuwi "Survivor" frames. The rear drop outs whilst having a look of Tange about them do not convince me either, hole size and positioning, the position where the seat stays meet the seat tube are also different and the seat stays at the drop out end are also closed and one side has a flattened tube again with blow holes!! I have done a lot of research into this frame as the owner has a few of them he wants to sell, claims they came from a closing down BMX shop and they are arrived in Kuwi boxes less the forks. These are another component I have tried unsuccessfully to positively id. They look initially like TRX's, but they have slash cut ends and blow holes in a different place to the TRX's.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y91/frosty_paul/Frame.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y91/frosty_paul/Ammaco.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y91/frosty_paul/Fork1.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y91/frosty_paul/Fork.jpg)
One thing that did come out from my research was that as the years passed and dependent on the particular maket the bikes were intended for they builds and specs were quite different.
Regards
Paul
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Sorry for the size of the pics I thought they would be smaller. Also the first pic of forks are not the ones I was talking about they are ammaco's.
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a false idol of me features in them pics
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False? Looks like he measures up to me.
Will def get some more pics done tomorrow....too late again today now, off to work :(
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thats one of the k serial# kuwi's made by kuwahara and not tange. There was a big talk about this in october/november on that other site, you know the one where you get banned if you have an opinion or are foreign. You should be able to find it.
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Couple more pics -
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y119/KuSam/BB2001.jpg)
(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y119/KuSam/BB1001.jpg)
You can see, espeically on the left where it has been cut :'(
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i cant really see what that brake is actually attatched to, but surely you could weld a plate back in....
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The brake is held in by the middle hole of the brake bridge....and must have always been like that so it works fine (well..if the brake actualy worked it would)...just didnt like that it had been modified (hacked at!).
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it could have been gnawed by rats
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nah, its trms that are made out of cheese strings
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hehe
sam that brake works good enough for you do some backhops i bet
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Hehe.....can ride around with the brake on.......the crank would probably fall off anyway...it does like to pop out on either side.
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get it to a meet with all them lot on it it would be like changing rooms, but faster and more tastefull.
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Hehe.....can ride around with the brake on.......the crank would probably fall off anyway...it does like to pop out on either side.
bring it and i will fix it
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So long as the equivalent to Lawrence Llewelyn Bowen doesn't touch it.
???
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so youve met ruler before?
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i am more handy andy
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Not planning on releasing "If I had a hammer" like he did are you?
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Townsend, that thread was mine Ithink there was certainly a lot of discussion over the frames, I am not convinced, but Earl has a shed load of good stuff to be getting rid of and I just won't bid on one of these frames.
Kusam, just tidy the hacked up bridge as best you can.
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no frosty, that thread was mine, i was also once amongst wieners.
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i remember the thread in question as i was the first person who suggested you had an early Team bike ;)
its definitely the earliest Lasrlite frame number i've ever seen :o