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Mid School BMX (>87) 1989 to 2003 (<05) => Mid School ( Keep the faith ) => Topic started by: chromeOrange on November 05, 2008, 12:10 PM
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Hi. I have a Standard STA 500 rotting away in my parents shed and I'm thinking of resurrecting it as a daily rider or to sell on. I bought this second hand back in 2002 I think and it has sat under a piece of tarpaulin and other junk since that day.
Just wondering if someone could give me a bit of a heads-up on this bike or point me in the right direction as my knowledge starts and ends with 80's OS stuff I'm afraid. Is there any way i can identify its exact year? The guy i bought it from said it was a few years old if I remember right (so I was thinking about 1999), but looking around it seems that this frame has been in production since 1994 - so it could be as old as that?
It has no decals on it at all and I'm guessing the baby blue was a repaint. It has a 21" TT and looking over it yesterday with a torch I remembered how rock solid the frame is. Dropouts are in excellent condition it seems but many parts of the frame and forks now have a fair bit of surface corrosion.
Two flat tyres, disintegrating grips, dry as a bone chain and snapped rear brake cable complete this sorry state of affairs...
I'd just like to know a bit more about the bike before I get going on it. Many thanks.
Mark.
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great bike, and arguably the best frame available in its time. Made in America with a lifetime warranty.
I believe the 500 was a second generation of the frame as the first one was just a STA (Stronger Than All)
Was the Rick Moliterno Pro Model (owner of standard)
I can safely say that if you fixed this up it would do you proud as a daily ride, skatepark bike.
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Two flat tyres, disintegrating grips, dry as a bone chain and snapped rear brake cable complete this sorry state of affairs...
sounds like my kind of bike :smitten:
not really as collectible as the s&m's (yet) but still a very worthwhile restoration,
i do one, i've a sticker set here for when the right one comes along,
is it an ox-platinum version?
bmx bb?
what parts are on it?
for me, the standard STA is THE best bmx frame ever made,
no shit.
what else even comes close?
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Thanks for the response guys. Sounds like I made a good decision back then!
Six years is a long time and I was scrabbling around in pitch darkness last night. But I'm going to have it out in broad daylight over the weekend and get it back to my house. I'll post up a few pics if i can, that might help.
I'm certain it isn't an ox-platinum version though. Don't remember that it had anything extra special parts wise? But I'll be able to clarify that this weekend hopefully...
Mark.
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get it restored ,it will still outlast anything you would buy today ,just a bit heavier.
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stas are nice,ive always liked them
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get some bloody pics up man!
easy way to test whether its OX platinum. sit the frame (only the frame) on the bb and the dropouts on a flat surface. if it stays like that when let go its OX, if the front end drops its 4130.
if you want to know why i can go into more detail
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if you want to know why i can go into more detail
please do..........
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from what i can remember from speaking with rick the original idea to use ox tubing was not an overall weight saving thing but to give a better balance to a bmx frame. for all time bmx frames are front end heavy, hence why they drop to the headtube when sat on the bb. so in using the air hardened tubing a thinner gauge could be used but still maintaining the same strength, and as its the front end that has the air hardened tubing gave a better balance to the frame.
also making a frame completely of air hardened tubing the price would have been astronomical.
then other companies jumped on the band wagon, T1 were the next to use some form of hardened tube, then the likes of S&M, fit, fbm all jumped onboard. this started the weight saving mentallity then the lower end companies started producing weightless frames, not with hardened tubing but with thinner 4130 to keep weight down, but the strength of mid school was lost and the birth of new school had begun
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still got this stashed away and one i ride,both utter fantastic frames and near perfect feel when ridden.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/cakes023.jpg)
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dan would it be possible to have a pic of the decal on the sta forks . cheers
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nice info phil. :4_17_5: :4_17_5: :4_17_5: :4_17_5:
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/STA10.jpg)
i will take a better pic if needed
chromeorange i would love to see the sta if you get a pic or 2.
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thanx dan :daumenhoch:
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wish i had never sold mine .someone on rad bought it cant rmember who was a great rider apart from tad heavy.got pissed with it and got rid when i broke me ribs at stockport riding it .tok some abuse though and only had tiny downtube ding to show ,
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that was my one greg it now belongs to :) someone with a SBC tattoo
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yeah thats right dan got it off you who did i sell it to ?
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Dear laz
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i was thinking that but my brain hurts if i use it lol
dan i absolutely love the chrome stas they are the dogs danglies .always preferred the standards to s%m especially the later 90s ones but dont see many about now .i think you got em all dan
lol
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i think alex has one still ,well not to diss his s&m collection its his mates i think,
but your right not many 1" sta 's around forsure.
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Again, thanks for all the comments and info; excellent postings Darth.
Don't worry Dan, I will definitely post up some pics after this weekend - it'll be in a very sorry state though...
The guy I bought it off was very heavy in build, so guess he wanted a very strong frame. In contrast I won't be stressing the frame an iota I should imagine!
Mark.
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i want a nice nos sta to put next to my nos taj and nos holmes.
they to me are the three big bikes of the mid 90s when i was riding.
anybody know where i might find a nice sta 1" f&f nos.
hhhhhmmmmmm ::)
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Nice NOS STA there Dan :daumenhoch:
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wish i had never sold mine .someone on rad bought it cant rmember who was a great rider apart from tad heavy.got pissed with it and got rid when i broke me ribs at stockport riding it .tok some abuse though and only had tiny downtube ding to show ,
That'd be me Greg! Got a pukka spray job from Philbert and awesome decals from Del and she lives in my living room!
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v432/Lazarou63/ABCD0020-3.jpg)
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Just realised there were 2 pages to this thread! D'oh!
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from what i can remember from speaking with rick the original idea to use ox tubing was not an overall weight saving thing but to give a better balance to a bmx frame. for all time bmx frames are front end heavy, hence why they drop to the headtube when sat on the bb. so in using the air hardened tubing a thinner gauge could be used but still maintaining the same strength, and as its the front end that has the air hardened tubing gave a better balance to the frame.
also making a frame completely of air hardened tubing the price would have been astronomical.
then other companies jumped on the band wagon, T1 were the next to use some form of hardened tube, then the likes of S&M, fit, fbm all jumped onboard. this started the weight saving mentallity then the lower end companies started producing weightless frames, not with hardened tubing but with thinner 4130 to keep weight down, but the strength of mid school was lost and the birth of new school had begun
Top, top info.. thanks for posting :daumenhoch:
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was going to say last night that phil should do some more stuff on standard.
about frame info,i have had a few frames that didnt have decals and needed a little
investigation to find out what model it was.
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laz thats cracking colour but it need building and riding to death matey .did u get the little ding sorted too ?
id love to read bit of history on standard and some pics of the frames they have released with years and details etc would be good read
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the ding was sorted before a did the spray job :daumenhoch:. though that pic really doesn't do the colour justice
standard history is stillin the process of being written. all i need for pics is nice one of an old lengthy frame (dan) then i'm set
this is the tester strip in the light for laz's frame
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/aa304/covphil/11-12-07_1723.jpg)
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At last, managed to grab some time Saturday afternoon to bring the bike out into the open and examine what 6 years in a damp shed can do to a piece of metal! Bike is now stripped and back at mine. Here's what I found; excuse any mid-skool ignorance...
STANDARD STA 500 frame: 21" TT. Serial # 'M99017'. Powder coated in Baby Blue with no decals. Heavy as a tank with no dents/dings, but plenty of scratches, blistered paint and surface corrosion.
S&M PITCHFORK's: Black and completely unmarked.
Unknown make of bars: Chrome with small Mongoose decal?
SNAFU grips and alloy end plugs: Grey, torn and disintegrated. Now binned.
PRIMO Casket stem: Decent condition.
ALEX Supra-E rims: Front lightly corroded, rear heavily corroded with buckle.
SNAFU Rimjobs: 2.125/1.95. As new, but inner tubes completely degraded.
Hubs: Good condition, marked - 'MISSION'.
T1 Pegs: Heavily corroded and crumbling. Now binned.
XPOSURE sprocket 44T with 1/2 grind disc: Lightly corroded.
HARO Fusion 1pc crank: Crome. Heavily corroded.
KMC Heavy Duty chain: Dry.
DMR V8 pedals: Badly scored and corroded.
Dia-Compe AD990: Rear, Silver and fine.
Dia-Tech DIRT HARRY lever: Black and unmarked.
PRIMO Pentagon seat: Grey and Black. 1 small tear and lightly stained.
Unknown make of seatpost and clamp: Silver/Black. Lightly corroded.
Still not sure whether to resurrect this back into a regular ride or sell on to help fund a Cruiser and OS rebuild...
*This post was supposed to include a fair few photo's I took of the strip down, but I'm having trouble uploading my albums to Photobucket. Thought I'd just be able to bang them straight in this post easily. I'm really sh*t at this sort of stuff. Will try again tomorrow when I've got a clear head...*
Mark.
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come on lad!
lets have a gander of it eh? :LolLolLolLol:
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well said im keen to have a butchers
decals are swet by the way darker. thanks alot :daumenhoch:
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Okay, okay, okay...
The pics will be going up this evening...
Mark.
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no. NOW.
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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Here are the pics at last from Saturday (despite the digi camera date):
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/qq211/chromeOrange/eBay013.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/qq211/chromeOrange/eBay015.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/qq211/chromeOrange/eBay017.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/qq211/chromeOrange/eBay020.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/qq211/chromeOrange/eBay021.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/qq211/chromeOrange/eBay022.jpg)
Mark.
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nice project youve got to get your teeth into :daumenhoch:
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that frame looks in great shape fella
i will get my hands on a nice one one day
you should get it to super bike dan for some fresh powder it would look brand new
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Cheers guys. I remembered why I bought it in the first place whilst I was stripping it down. :)
It will definitely be going to someone for a fresh powder coat that's for sure...
Mark.