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Title: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: noddybeard on November 27, 2008, 08:26 PM
Been reading through some forum posts an just dawned on me that maybe we should acknowledge some of the innovations that were pioneered by some of the british riders that have had a significant impact on what we now refer to as being standard bmx hardware.
The one's that automatically spring to mind are S&M Alex's development of the left hand drive set up along with a reliable front brake an removable gyro tabs!!
And Mike Jory's development of a reliable freecoster..
There are loads more I'm sure so lets here about them.
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on November 28, 2008, 08:44 PM
Some would say  Stuart Kings axle/spacer combo,  I'd say George Frenchs top gyro hanger/headset locking plate.

How about the Fluffy Toy AD plate?  I don't know if it was the first, but it was certainly right up there with the first.

Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on November 28, 2008, 08:49 PM
Ooh!   And the London brake cable mod.    :daumenhoch:

Was that James White?
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: JT71 on November 28, 2008, 08:58 PM
is the London Mod the little block that takes two gyro cables to one for the back brake, rather than having a specific lower gyro cable?

not really innovations but Landar made cheap copies of everything going....a Brit company but all the stuff made in the East I imagine.
got one of their "brake servos" somewhere.

Alex actually invented the left hand drive then? that's pretty damn cool.
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on November 28, 2008, 09:02 PM
Alex actually did, yeah.  Legend.

The London mod was to allow use of individual cables yeah   :)
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: bmxbert on November 28, 2008, 09:04 PM
mega breaks????
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on November 28, 2008, 09:07 PM
Yip!  Rob Ridge   :)


The Zima frame with custom fixed length seatpost.  Steve Geall.  Sorry if I've spelt his name wrong.

Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: lodge on November 28, 2008, 09:20 PM
mega breaks????

Was that the ACS boa with the cartridge bearings??
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on November 28, 2008, 09:24 PM
Aye.   There's a thread about them somewhere on here.  Brilliant brake, I loved mine.  :)
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: harris on November 28, 2008, 09:26 PM
thats the one
alex had some input into a few things ,about time he listed his little tinkerings

anyone seen alex   ???

phil evans of rekka for indestructible components
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on November 28, 2008, 09:28 PM
Good shout    :daumenhoch:

Rekka headset converter cups   :4_17_5:
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: bmxbert on November 28, 2008, 09:32 PM
is g sport a uk company? there hubs changed alot things
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: darkersomeday on November 28, 2008, 09:33 PM
is g sport a uk company? there hubs changed alot things


was,


all their hubs used to made made in the UK, right here in sunny sheffield :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: harris on November 28, 2008, 09:35 PM
a few bits on alexs ride are down to him and friends
cranks  wrong side and hubs p.e hubs  i was lucky enough to get some recently
home made bread board sprocket guard  and brake canoooodling know doubt  rgd spinner is that    ???
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/3-mk2dirtbike_1inch.jpg)
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: bmxbert on November 28, 2008, 09:41 PM
big up old school leigh on sea. thats on a 3 and half foot spine to.
i loved that place miss it every day. i worked there for a summer or two 97 98
best days of my life  :'(
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on November 28, 2008, 09:42 PM
We probably know each other then bud.  I was there most tue and thu nights through those summers   :)
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: harris on November 28, 2008, 09:45 PM
big up old school leigh on sea. thats on a 3 and half foot spine to.
i loved that place miss it every day. i worked there for a summer or two 97 98
best days of my life  :'(
then you would have been working when i rode leigh .
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: bmxbert on November 28, 2008, 09:47 PM
my names albert i would have been 15 to 17ish i used to help out round the park with repairs and making pot noodles.
tell you what i probably make the best pot noodles ever. lol
got that sh*t down to an art ;D
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: harris on November 28, 2008, 09:49 PM
i remember i could only get chicken pot noodles most of the time  but it was part of my journey
to have one relax on the benches n watch some cool riding
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on November 28, 2008, 09:52 PM
This is so bad, and I'm really sorry to have to ask, but what was the name of the brother who passed away?
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: bmxbert on November 28, 2008, 09:57 PM
alan. cool guy the other brother was trev also cool.
theres a new skate shop in leigh broadway called switch and im doing some art for there decks as im a tattooist. ive asked if i could do a tribute deck fto alan and the old park. i'll post some pics when i get it together
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on November 28, 2008, 10:03 PM
Alan.   Ah mate, I'm so embarrassed I forgot his name.


I had some good little riding sessions with Trev.  He rode like a skater, if you know what I mean.  I offered to help him out with the park after his bro died, but I think he though I might have been after something. I wasn't a close buddy of his or anything.




Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: bmxbert on November 28, 2008, 10:10 PM
i wasnt close to them either think he just liked to help out where he could with the younger gen down there. good guys mate and good times
if i had the the lotto ticket that park would be back in a week.

ive not rode for a while but im getting back on it as i only live at the top of the hill to the new park.
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on November 28, 2008, 10:13 PM
Shame about that new park though eh?


I consulted on that project at the very very first stages, and they ignored everything I suggested........ grrrr.......

Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: bmxbert on November 28, 2008, 10:16 PM
when do they ever listen ?
just looked at that pic again and spotted mat jenkins in the background with his orange sta. i used to watch him and roach smash that big spine up on a weekly basis
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on November 28, 2008, 10:29 PM
Matt Roach?   Good lad him  :)
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on November 28, 2008, 10:39 PM
Back on topic for a mo....

The Static freecoaster.

Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: nomad on November 29, 2008, 06:34 PM
I had no idea that Alan passed away :( what happened. I used to ride Leigh loads, 1994 to 96. I actually sold a Haro Shredder frame to Trev, with a gusseted headtube, was light blue when I sold it. Trev was a cool guy, spoke to him a fair bit, but never really spoke to Alan. L.O.S pot noodles were part of the day for sure, as were space raiders and sitting on the top on the vert as it shaked with the force of Jerry Galley! Whats Trev doing now, anyone know?
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: bmxbert on November 29, 2008, 08:53 PM
last i saw of trev he was working in an estate agents that was next to there shop jelly mumbos. that was a long time ago now though. the shredder ended up black all over and i think trev well and truly shredded it on the 8ft and vert i remember wondering how he managed to ride it as it used to make scary noises when he rode it.
he wasnt the smoothest of fellows though  ;D
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on November 29, 2008, 09:17 PM
I believe Alan died of heart failure.  Very sad.
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: nomad on November 29, 2008, 10:23 PM
very :(

cool as about the shredder living on, it prob should have been left for dead when the headtube parted company lol
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: teamsano on November 30, 2008, 01:09 PM
ever heard of pm's?
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: laughinggravy on December 01, 2008, 01:09 PM
 
Alex had constant ideas for improving bike parts, and his bike through the 90's was continually evolving with his latest home made improvements, including: 14 mm axles, left side drive, hub protectors, canti front brakes, forward facing chain adjusters, alloy/steel combo pegs; these are just the ones that made the market place, some of his more outlandish experiments include using tubing for his frame gyro cable inner cable routing (dented) and . . I can't think of any others that didn't make sense, his ideas filtered through the industry and made the bikes we ride today. Bikes have even evolved to the stage that he now rides one completely stock, no fettling required!

He's even so acknowledged for his pioneering ideas, the owner of 'a v.trendy, progressive, european based bike co' sent him a box of stuff to say thanks!

Or Gracias in this case . .
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: gary4130 on December 06, 2008, 08:28 AM
rgd -through customriders, about 87-88 ish they did recess bolts for the front brake, stems with your name and a few other bits but cant remember what they were at the mo  :P
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: lodge on December 06, 2008, 09:49 AM
rgd -through customriders, about 87-88 ish they did recess bolts for the front brake, stems with your name and a few other bits but cant remember what they were at the mo  :P

Pretty sure they did a Rotor too I think it was around 86.
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: gary4130 on December 06, 2008, 10:13 AM
rgd -through customriders, about 87-88 ish they did recess bolts for the front brake, stems with your name and a few other bits but cant remember what they were at the mo  :P

Pretty sure they did a Rotor too I think it was around 86.
yeah and those 2in1 gyro splitters and shims for redline cranks-anybody remember the rest ?
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: mi16kie on December 06, 2008, 09:40 PM
Hey mr gravy what about tour TRUCK RING wheel conversions that was a first too :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on December 07, 2008, 01:25 PM
yeah and those 2in1 gyro splitters and shims for redline cranks-anybody remember the rest ?
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Were they not Static parts?  From Custom Riders?  I have one of those cranks spacers on my cruiser right now   :daumenhoch:

They also did low bolt kits for ADs, and the 48 hole suntour freecoaster (with the washers).  Can't think of owt else.....


Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: laughinggravy on January 09, 2009, 11:36 AM
Can't take the credit for TRUCK wheels mikie, that one was Dave Drew's idea. However, you can take the credit for replacing the bridge/straddle on a u-brake for a cut down bit of seatpost (bridge), and two spokes from this to the arms (straddle). No flex! And so crazy even Al hadn't tried it! But no give either eh?! Like the dual lower gyro cables, if your wheel moves or buckles, braking over . . . .

Static did a load of parts for 'the change', ie a milled 14mm chain adjuster, that would take a  10 m.m. axle, and custom riders also distributed some of Phils Rekka parts that did the same, ie inch and eighth cups that took inch forks. And having to file out the cable stop bits for a gyro to fit my first o-size d/bike, cos odyssey hadn't caught up yet..

An 80's one here, Sharp grips, that you could cut to length. Genius. Maybe.
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: welsh denny on January 09, 2009, 02:40 PM
still running my rgd/static 2 into 1 gyro splitter. had it since 91 or 92 and been on every single bike since. modified it quite a few years ago so cables slot in. years more service left in it yet. think i still got my static bearing spacer thingy too for cranksin my bike bits box.
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: noddybeard on January 09, 2009, 06:42 PM
Dont those Sharp grips bear an uncanny resemblance to the Odyssey Gedda2 grips?!?!?
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: wirewheel on January 09, 2009, 07:43 PM
has any one said g sport nip clamps? pure genius. nice bloke too. and phil rekka made me some king esque spacers that had built in chain tensioner and slotted to go 10mm axle in 14mm dropouts.

weighed a ton  :LolLolLolLol: but they were mint.

they could endup making stuff in  :Great_Britain: soon the way the dollar is going i can see an s&m frame being £600 soon. crazy.

sharp lever grips if anyone has any spare ones lmk  :smitten: they rule. used em since 83. :daumenhoch:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/c160/risetothunder/jan09013.jpg)
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on January 11, 2009, 10:54 PM
 :) A company called Leeson Bikes did the pivotal post/wedge bolt thing a few years back? (Like the one from ABIKECO) in 2004... 
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on January 11, 2009, 11:13 PM
I don't think we can credit G Sport with the nipple clamp.  That little device has been around as long as the control cable has, they've been available in motorbike cable repair kits for decades, in all sorts of shapes and sizes  :)

Also, which came first;  Nipple clamp, or Knarp?

Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: og zima on January 23, 2009, 09:14 PM
Yip!  Rob Ridge   :)


The Zima frame with custom fixed length seatpost.  Steve Geall.  Sorry if I've spelt his name wrong.


no, you have spelt it correctly, probably one of the first times it has? didnt think at the time it was a innovation, just common sence. cheers rob
Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: TwoBobRob on January 23, 2009, 09:21 PM
How many of those did you make?  I think I've seen 3 in the flesh, 2 fixed and one slider.

Title: Re: British Innovations to the BMX industry
Post by: SaMAlex on January 23, 2009, 09:25 PM
Doug Cain still has his. San Fran Ian has one also. Infact Ian took his to Wilkersons Birthday party last week.
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